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Categories[]

Hi, please stop adding categories to pages. You are new here, and you aren't familiar with our very strict policy at Tardis:Valid sources and our rules on categorization. If you see something missing from a page, please ask an admin before adding it, as there is most likely a good reason for it. Thanks, Shambala108 22:22, June 12, 2018 (UTC)

Ok, sorry just seen this now. How would I ask an admin something? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Danochy (talk • contribs) .
Finally, to answer your question. To ask a question, you need to go to the talk page of that person and leave a message there. You can find the list of admin at Tardis:Administrators, complete with links to our talk pages. Whenever an admin leaves a message for you here, a link to their talk page is contained in their signature (it looks like an old-fashioned telephone). Note that leaving a message on your own talk page for someone else is not likely to elicit any response, as you have doubtlessly learned. The reason for that is that a message left on my talk page results in an email notification, but a message you leave on your page is largely unnoticeable for anyone else, unless they are specifically investigating your behaviour, which does not normally happen. With more than 15 millions registered users and more than 200 users who actively edit the wiki at the moment, the admin cannot possibly check talk pages of every user to see if they left a message. Please do not hesitate to ask your question using my talk page. Amorkuz 09:52, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Removing information from talk pages[]

Hi, please be advised that under no circumstances are you allowed to edit or delete messages left by other editors on any talk pages, including yours. Note that you are not allowed to edit or delete your own messages either. If you need to make a correction, you must post a follow-up note. The policy can be found at Tardis:Vandalism policy#Your own talk page. Amorkuz 09:42, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Categories revisited[]

Please leave categories alone (unless creating a new page that needs categories). I've already asked you to not put categories on pages; now I'm asking you to leave those alone that are part of the Game of Rassilon (the stupid achievement track we're currently using). Categories in the Game of Rassilon are exempt from the "redundant categories" prohibition.

Please also consider that when an admin or long-term editor undoes one of your edits, they might actually know what they're doing. Instead of reverting their reverting, ask on their talk page.

If you're curious about what exactly the Game of Rassilon is, please see Tardis:Game of Rassilon rules. Thanks, Shambala108 06:33, September 3, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to get back to you on this. The Game of Rassilon includes certain categories from the wiki. For example, "Conflicts" is one of the categories. Normally, that category would not be on the pages in question because of the redundant category rule; however, since it is part of the "game", it's on the page, and we don't remove the existing categories, because hopefully one day the Game will be removed from the wiki and then it'll be a relatively easy job cleaning up. If you are unsure which categories are part of the game, you can check on your user page: off to the right side there is a box that lists all the achievements (keep in mind that some of them no longer count). Shambala108 00:46, September 4, 2018 (UTC)
That's correct. For example, all planets currently have the "Planets" category, because that's another Game of Rassilon track. However, they also have their more specific categories, which are not to be removed. That way, when/if the Game ends, all we would have to do is send a bot run to remove the Game categories, and the original more specific categories will already be on the pages. Less work for all. Shambala108 03:48, September 4, 2018 (UTC)

Reply[]

Well, it mostly boils down to personnel preference, I guess. When I was editing the timeline pages, I cut out all the adaptations, since the focus was on the events of the originals that the adaptations mostly follow to the letter. I never got round to reading them, only adding a note on the information about the story that showed how the adaptation affected the placement.

That's why I don't find them necessary as such, but if you prefer them there for the reasons you sent to me, then I have no issue with it. ;) BananaClownMan 22:19, September 5, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Zygon timeline[]

Hi, yeah, sorry about that. I meant to leave you a message, but I got sidetracked and then forgot.

The problem is actually the opposite: a page move always leaves a redirect behind, and in most cases that redirect is unnecessary. But only admins can delete the redirects, so when non-admins move pages, there is a redirect left behind, whether or not it's needed. See Thread:128198 for the reasoning behind the rule and the proper procedures when a page needs moving.

Anyway, I moved it back to your new title, and deleted the incorrect redirect. Thanks, Shambala108 15:49, January 14, 2019 (UTC)

Dalek Empire[]

I'll look for the source of the relevant dates and get back to you! GusF 10:15, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Not yet, I'm afraid. I'll keep looking and redouble my efforts! GusF 03:56, June 2, 2019 (UTC)
I am afraid to say that I have been unable to locate my copy of the Dalek Empire short story collection anywhere but I will continue looking to see if it turns up. GusF 10:19, June 28, 2019 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to butt in here but I have a copy of Short Trips: Dalek Empire. If you could let me know on my talk page a little more detail of what you're looking for, I can take a look. Shambala108 14:10, June 28, 2019 (UTC)

Alrighty, I'll take a look through my book and get back to you. I don't think I'll get to it this weekend, but maybe early to middle next week. Shambala108 15:05, June 29, 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I've done a quick pass through Short Trips: Dalek Empire, and there aren't a whole lot of dates. I'll look more closely into each story when I get a chance.
Unfortunately, I think I've figured out where User:GusF (or whoever else) got the dates for the audio series. It looks like he was using the Discontinuity Guide (we weren't as strict back then about timelines or about copying from other sites). So it looks like, since you haven't been able to find the dates in the stories themselves, that those dates will have to be removed from the main namespace. You could use them as guidelines for the theory pages, as long as everyone else working on those pages doesn't have a problem with it, but any dates/timelines/ordering that comes from the Discontinuity Guide won't be allowed on the story pages or any in-universe pages.
It looks like most of the audio stories have a link to the Discontinuity Guide at the bottom of the page under "External links". Shambala108 04:39, July 9, 2019 (UTC)

Brooke/River[]

Nice! Hadn't seen that talk page before. I only have my phone in hand right now, and I don't like using the wiki in it very much. But I'll get to it in a few days. Thanks!! OncomingStorm12th 22:24, July 15, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me of that! I had truly forgotten about it. Going to the talk page right now before I forget it again. OncomingStorm12th 14:05, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

RE: video[]

That's perfectly alright. I understand it was not intentional, and that at least now you're acquainted with the rule laid out at Tardis:Video policy. I decided just to upload the video myself, over your upload, so we don't have a problem anymore.

In future, T:VREC is always open for suggestions, and you can feel free to bug me so I can force myself to get around to finally catching up on the last year or so of videos I've yet to upload here.
× SOTO (//) 09:44, September 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re: speedy rename[]

Hi, if you take a look at Template:Speedy rename, it will show you how to fill out the required fields for a speedy rename tag. Unlike the {{Rename}} tag, the speedy rename doesn't allow for giving a reason, because theoretically it's only for non-controversial page moves - like adding a dab term or correcting misspelling. I don't agree with that, however, because some of these speedy renames are not obvious to me (for example a recurring character given a last name in a later story) and I would prefer to have a reason. User:Borisashton corrected your tag and stated that the reason for it should be given in the edit summary - this is incorrect, as edit summaries are not as easy to find as talk pages, so Thread:213632 asks for speedy rename reasons to be placed on article talk pages. Thanks Shambala108 14:58, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Destiny of the Daleks infobox[]

Hope you had a good week. Initially I dated the page to circa 4949, as given by the audio story Neverland in relation to the Movellan War, even though there are MANY conflicting dates. However, the new date is from Eric Saward's novelization of Resurrection of the Daleks, which is set in 4590, 90 years after Davros is frozen in Destiny, thereby making Destiny set in 4500. Of course, since this is a novelization, I understand if it's not "official" - I'm not an admin lol. Whatever the policy says it should be. Steed 00:16, March 7, 2020 (UTC)

Second Doctor Timeline[]

Hi there, just to let you know that I’ve responded to the talk page. It’s not much help and I know I’m not the one who you’re looking to respond to it, but just so you know we’re on the same page. SarahJaneFan 12:01, March 12, 2020 (UTC)

As I’ve said before, I’m not hugely knowledgeable of the timeline, but I reckon just from looking at it needs a huge overhaul. I’d imagine you’d agree and honestly it’s getting rather frustrating that the talk page is ignored. If it were up to me, the whole thing would be torn down and rebuilt tbh. SarahJaneFan 22:02, March 23, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah I pretty much agree with that. And yeah I guess the issues mainly stem from the Zoe part of the timeline. My personal bugbear is how the non-existent gap between The Wheel in Space and The Dominators has seemingly been crowbarred open. And yeah The Two Doctors 100% needs to be placed twice with an “according to one account” note below it. Otherwise separate timelines need to be made.

I think the problem generally is on all the timelines, that release order is either followed too rigidly or stories are assembled in any random order even if there’s no evidence suggesting any kind of an order. Like release order seems to be enforced on the Thirteenth Doctor page, especially for comics where it doesn’t really make any sense but then you go to the Second Doctor timeline and there’ll be a load of arbitrary stories in a random order with absolutely no justification. Imo, it should either be in release order or have a note explaining why it’s placed out of release order but perhaps that’s something that needs to be discussed in detail.

A possible third point is the fact that the timelines are rigidly being made to match with the wiki articles. I don’t know if this is against the rules as such, but it’s certainly been made clear by mods before that timeline theory has no place on the main pages so that’s something that needs discussed especially as it makes the timeline pages messier and restricts placement. SarahJaneFan 22:52, March 23, 2020 (UTC)

Great! Hopefully that means we can get discussion moving soon. Is there anyone else that regularly edits the timelines that we can bring in on these discussions as well? SarahJaneFan 11:02, March 24, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me, I’ve responded on the timey-wimey talk page and I’m about to respond on the Second Doctor talk page as well. Perhaps we should drop a link on those guy’s talk pages asking if they’d like to contribute to the discussion? SarahJaneFan 12:48, April 3, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for getting in touch, I’ve read through the replies and I’ll be responding to each of them shortly. SarahJaneFan 21:38, May 13, 2020 (UTC)

Season 19 Audios[]

Hi, the reason I moved those audios pre-Black Orchid is because they effectively tell the story of how Tegan goes from being eager to get home in The Visitation, to wanting to stay with the Doctor in Black Orchid.

Divided Loyalties tells a different account of this as it goes right after The Visitation and Tegan decides to stick around at the end.

The Star Men has the team still trying to get to Heathrow, and they’re not particularly close.

In The Contigency Club, they're still trying to get to Heathrow, but Tegan doubts that they’ll land there, implying she’s lost faith in the Doctor’s ability to get her there. Nyssa however suspects that Tegan doesn’t really want to leave anymore. Adric and Tegan are fighting.

In Zaltys, Tegan manipulates Adric into attempting to pilot the TARDIS to Heathrow. The line about her giving up on the Doctor is in relation to his ability to get her to Heathrow and it’s the reason she asks Adric to attempt it instead, suggesting she’s pretty desperate by this point. Adric just questions why she’s so obsessed with getting to Heathrow rather than being like “Oh I thought you said you were sticking around”. Tegan is pretty manipulative in this one so the team doesn’t really come across as very close.

Tegan then admits to Adric in Kingdom of Lies that she’s begun to enjoy travelling in the TARDIS.

Ghost Walk begins with another attempt to get to Heathrow. The Visitation is mentioned and the Doctor and Adric have a conversation about why they keep missing Heathrow, but Tegan cuts them off by saying she doesn’t care that they aren’t a Heathrow and is more interested in knowing where they actually are. She’s just not bothered by this point. The story is set in an unnamed city and they basically end up causing an earthquake by almost releasing a ghost demon from another reality.

Then in Black Orchid, Tegan has told the Doctor off screen that he can stop trying to get her to Heathrow and she wants to stick around. They've also just done something bad to London.

Serpent in the Silver Mask has no reference to Heathrow, and the team are instead searching for components to build a new sonic screwdriver. Tegan has a love interest who she doesn’t stay with because her friends need her. The team is pretty close by this point.

So really there either has to be a different event in London to come immediately before Black Orchid, or for these stories to come after Black Orchid, something needs to happen for Tegan to change her mind about wanting to stay and to suddenly want to get back to Heathrow again. SarahJaneFan 20:40, April 9, 2020 (UTC)

RE: Charlotte Pollard[]

I'm tempted to say that Charley hasn't had enough of an independent run -- just two box sets in one medium -- to merit her own story category. It's certainly not as obviously defensible as Benny, River or Erimem's categories. Might be a good idea to add a {{delete}} tag and give a bit of time for anyone who wants to defend it.

Personally, my reading of Thread:139802 is that Charley falls just outside the standard for inclusion in Stories by featured characters, if we have to be generous about exclusion to make sure we don't come into the problem of "category bloat".
× SOTO (//) 06:54, April 13, 2020 (UTC)

Good point! We have to draw a line somewhere before Donna (or even Jenny) get their own categories for short-lived series or one-off anthologies that don't represent anything like the franchise that is Bernice Summerfield.
× SOTO (//) 07:05, April 13, 2020 (UTC)

Check on[]

Hello, User:Danochy. I just wanted to stop by and check how you were doing in these trying times of self-isolation?BananaClownMan 09:54, April 16, 2020 (UTC)

Can't really complain. I've been put on paid leave from my job, which is good because all the applications I made for temporary work never accepted, and I still have rent to pay. I've been keeping myself occupied by trying to fill in the stubs on the Doctor pages as best I can, as well as my daily exercise on my bike. The LOCKDOWN releases have been a big help in fighting of boredom. Have you seen Farewell, Sarah Jane. I cried.BananaClownMan 18:39, April 25, 2020 (UTC)

No, my dear shepherd, you must pie! Pie, shepherd! Pie, shepherd![]

Hello. Can you please give me the source quote from The Drosten’s Curse that states the lack of Shepherds in Shepherd's pie? Does the narration say it, or just a character? Because if it’s just stated in dialogue it’s simply a case of one character’s word against another. NightmareofEden 02:00, April 25, 2020 (UTC)

Dammit... you win this round. But there are pages on the wiki.... NightmareofEden 03:20, April 25, 2020 (UTC)

Seven Timeline[]

I’ve started a discussion in the Seventh Doctors Timeline Talk Page and I was hoping you could give it a read and possibly respond. It’s quite long so take your time as we’re all busy but I think I’ve perhaps brought up some important and relevant points and I’d like to hear your thoughts on the matter. Thanks. SarahJaneFan 21:40, May 13, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I’ll look forward to your response. Btw I managed to respond to the other talk pages we have going so there’s that as well when you get a chance. SarahJaneFan 10:21, May 14, 2020 (UTC)

Bump. Only because you said to give you a reminder if you didn’t get back, if you’re still busy that’s completely fine too, take your time. I’ve also replied to the Second Doctor discussion and the timeline talk page fwiw. SarahJaneFan 10:43, May 19, 2020 (UTC)

I’ve left responses to all of our ongoing discussions, although I suspect most of them can’t proceed any further without BCM or anyone else responding, but just so you’re aware anyway. SarahJaneFan 13:16, May 22, 2020 (UTC)

The Unnamed Doctor[]

The Unnamed Doctor is from The Brilliant Book 2012.BananaClownMan 10:42, May 28, 2020 (UTC)


Master Timeline[]

Hiya, I noticed your recent edit on The Master's timeline and thought you might be interested in taking a look at something I added to the talk page back in January. If you’re not don’t worry but it’s there. SarahJaneFan 23:13, May 31, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, it’s annoying that we’ve got to message people any time we use the talk page. Unless people specifically check the pages they’re never gonna know anything is there. Anyway I’ve responded to your reply.

Werewolves, Vulpana and Mags[]

Hi there Danochy, I notice you have been editing a lot of the 'werewolves' pages. I have been on a "spree" myself, listening to a lot of the latest 7th Doctor audios with Mags, but I've been too lazy to track down and update every page relating to the audios because doing the summary already takes a lot of work. I was planning to listen to and write up the plot for "An Alien Werewolf in London" (BF main range 252), just to make sure we don't accidentally both end up doing it and wasting time, can I assume that you are going to add the plot to that story? Otherwise I'll be listening to it and adding it this weekend. Cheers! DoctorQuoi 05:32, June 25, 2020 (UTC)DoctorQuoi

Hey, sounds good then! Yes I still have yet to listen to "Loup-garoux". I have a bunch of Fifth Doctor audios I have been saving up but they're farther down the main range line, like "Castle of Fear" and "Heroes of Sontar". Hopefully I'll have a chance to get to them this summer.
Great, I'll add the plot for "An Alien Werewolf in London". I know what you mean, I personally find it relaxing to write the plot as I go (good typing practice!), however, I completely understand.
Can I ask one favour though? Since I'm still new here and VERY likely to forget, once I update the page for the audio, can you do the extra stuff like adding any categories I forget or making the character's page(s)? I really appreciate it since the plot pages are, as you mentioned, a real pain to write in and of themselves. Cheers! DoctorQuoi 05:52, June 25, 2020 (UTC)DoctorQuoi

Cleanup[]

Hi, this is just a quick message to thank you for the cleanup efforts you put into this wiki. Shambala108 03:26, June 28, 2020 (UTC)

Audio Release Dates[]

Hello. I noticed that in Spring you added release dates to the pages of several audio stories. Could you please let me know what your source is for them? -- Noneofyourbusiness 12:12, July 14, 2020 (UTC)

UNIT Field Logs videos[]

Hi, I noticed that you created the UNIT Field Logs with links to the YouTube videos. In short, please don't. As per our Tardis:Video policy, more specifically T:VID LINK, "If the video is allowed by policy, then you should upload and display it on the page. If the video is not allowed by policy, then you can't simply provide a link to it in an effort to get around policy."

If you think a video should be added to the wiki (which these two should), using Tardis talk:Video recommendations is enough. OncomingStorm12th 16:18, August 18, 2020 (UTC)

Re:Small timeline reservation[]

Yeah, sure, go ahead with it.BananaClownMan 11:08, August 21, 2020 (UTC)

re:Seventh Doctor timeline[]

Hello. Sorry it took awhile to reply, my jobs in the early stages of reopening, and I've spent the past week filling in Health and Safety forms, and completing online exams to make sure I'm prepared for working in the post-Lockdown world. In response to your message, I did see the subject on the talk page, and even tried seeing if it would work with the knowledge at my disposal, but I kept running into roadblocks; some audios make references to the books, some audios portray Ace as being in her late 20s or early 30s, and, out-of-universe, the VNA concluded years ago, while the Main Range is still ongoing, making it easier to view it as happening afterwards. If someone finds a way to place the audios before the VNA, then, lke any editor, I'll go along with it until I disagree, start a debate and find a conclusion that makes everyone happy.BananaClownMan 16:54, August 30, 2020 (UTC)

Sandbox replies[]

Let's just say that Thread:264489 got me spooked. One of my hobbies on this wiki is writing character biographies for the Doctors, and now there properly all going to be stripped down to just a few sentences. Not without merit, though, some of them are really long. So, I copied there information to a sandbox so I can keep up my favorite pass time of both writing and reading about the Doctors' exploits. Once I'm done setting it all up, and when I find the time if no one else does it first, I'll go back to the main pages and strip their biographies to the few sentences that Thread:264489 degrees to keep the higher up happy. That way, everyone should win.

As for the search bar thing... well, it is a bit of a mouth full to type User:BananaClownMan/Sandbox/Eighth Doctor, for example, so I made it shorter to type. As a bonus, anyone that also wants to read full biographies can go there. No harm, no foul.BananaClownMan 21:34, September 28, 2020 (UTC)

Well, I can assure you they don't show up in all of them, like Sixth Doctor, who has a bunch of pages that start with his name.BananaClownMan 21:42, September 28, 2020 (UTC)

Re: The Fall and Rise of the Señor Category[]

…Now that's quite weird. I was certain I'd typed in a summary. In short, my rationale is this: nowhere in Thread:139802 does it say only DWU series leads should get such categories. I believe it would be of some use, and fall within policy, to have not only this category but also Category:Vienna Salvatori stories, Category:Sherlock Holmes stories, Category:Dracula stories, and so on, for characters who are primarily the leads of non-covered/non-DWU series, but are also recurring characters in the valid DWU. --Scrooge MacDuck 09:26, October 4, 2020 (UTC)

Mysterious Fifteenth Master[]

Hello!

I see you're also active on the Theory Timelines. Your Master timelines are very good, may I add? I wondered if you'd check out the message I left on the talkpage of the Masters Incarnations page. It seems we have a missing Fifteenth incarnation which two pieces of prose may have fixed. These pieces of prose also settle the debate regarding started by Doorway to Hell regarding whether Delgado regenerated or not. I didn't want to edit anything and mess up your system.

Thanks, and I hope all is well. TheFartyDoctor Talk 16:13, October 25, 2020 (UTC)

Eleventh Doctor timeline explanation[]

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Hey, man. I just wanted to explain the reversion I made to the Eleventh Doctor timeline forum. Since Amy said she hadn't seen the Doctor in six months in Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, and Asylum of the Doctor most likley takes place in September earliest, then Dinosaurs on a Spaceship must also take place in July earliest. Thus, all the holidays featured in the Titan Back-Up edition can't take place between Asylum of the Doctor and Dinosaurs on a Spaceship. The Power of Three could have been another option, but it's stated in the episode that Doctor is only around for a day at most in the July section, and does not return until June, then decides to stay, but only until the second July, after which they all leave together. So, long story short, no holidays there either.

This where out of the box thinking comes in. While Halloween can take place anytime due to it being on an alien planet, and only Amy is featured, and Bonfire Night can be elsewhere with some squinting, Christmas and New Year we know took place on present-day Earth at Amy and Rory's house in London. This is hard to place, except we know that the Doctor spent Christmas with them in The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe, and there's no evidence that River wasn't there as well.

As such, it's entirely possible that the Christmas and New Year editions took place during that time.

Let me know what you think, and I look forward to debating it. Sincerely, BananaClownMan 22:46, November 7, 2020 (UTC)

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Yeah, the "nine months" line is hard to pinpoint. The way Amy says the line makes it sound she's just saying stuff she knows will bring the Doctor around, like we often do when we don't see our friends in a while; mention there's a party, mention something they like, and then clinch the deal by bringing up how long it's been since they last met.

Of course, as you said, that line doesn't match up with the real world calendar, and, you're right, there really isn't any hardcore evidence that the Doctor didn't visited them between October and their anniversary, despite the episode strongly implying it. So, nine months before June would be September-October. Which would mean he could have popped over for Halloween and Bonfire night, depending on how she's using "nine months" as a time-frame.

Now onto the removal of the "second chance with the Ponds" section. The big arc of Season 7A is that Amy and Rory are traveling less and less with the Doctor, as seen mostly in Pond Life, where the Doctor actually goes to them. They get kidnapped into the plots of Asylum and Dinosaurs, and Mercy is the only story before Three were they're traveling willingly, and even then it's treated more as a "day out with a friend" than an ongoing occurrence. Then, at the end of Three, them traveling with the Doctor fulltime is treated as a big game changer for them. Thus, it makes more scence to have as little stories with them traveling with the Doctor between Widow and Three.

The thing about Destiny of the Doctor is that, in Night of the Whisper, 11 speaks of Amy in the past-tense, "It's something Pond would say" I think was the line. So, the mini-series would have to come after he stopped traveling with her.BananaClownMan 20:48, November 8, 2020 (UTC)

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I hear you there, mate. I've just started a new full-time job, so my editing time has also been severely limited. Hope you're having good luck with your exams. Going by your editing and debating skills, which show high intelligence and wisdom, you should be doing well.

Now, down to business; You make a good point that January-to-March, at least, is unaccounted. I suppose that means they can have traveled in those months. We could take all the Adventure comics that came out between TDTW&TW and AotD and place them there. But, I do have some issue with "Second chance with the Ponds" as the header; unlike with Clara, the Doctor parted with the Ponds based on his own decision, rather than 12 and Clara mutually deciding to part ways, thus why they call Season 9 their "second chance". I think "Renewed adventures with the Ponds" would be a more fitting title, due to the Doctor renewing his involment with them, and I look forward to hearing your input on this.

As for Destiny of the Doctor, I'll give NotW another listen too as soon as I can and update the Doctor's words to the last detail to see what context can be drawn from it.BananaClownMan 18:27, November 22, 2020 (UTC)

I managed to get a listen to NotW. The Eleventh Doctor's line is, Something Pond used to say, and Brigg's delivery has a sadness to it, like how one would talk about a deceased friend. The way I interpreted it was as referencing The Angels Take Manhattan, but, like I said, it's just how I interpreted the line.BananaClownMan 11:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
I'd have to give it listen again to be sure, but, as memory recalls, the Doctor was his usual self. I'd say it's best left between his travels with Decky and before all those stories that use his purple clothes on the covers, despite being depicted as pre-Snowmen. Who knows, though. Maybe someday someone will write in an explanation, like how The Bonfires of the Vanities explained the gap between The Smugglers and The Tenth Planet. Or, since it's part of my headcanon, the BBC will bring Doctor Puppet into the official "canon".BananaClownMan 22:59, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Stars Fell on Stockbridge[]

Hi Danochy, hope you're well. I've been having an editing day today (took the day off, wasn't feeling great, don't worry not COVID-19 related, I get seasonal migraines a lot) whereby I just click through random pages and glance them over to see if there's anything I can edit that I come across. As you're aware I've been doing a huge AUDIO marathon these last months and I've updated and added plot for a ton of audios (see User:DoctorQuoi for a list on my profilepage). Anyway, I saw the talkpage for Stars Fell on Stockbridge and having done the plots and listened to the "behind-the-scenes" for AUDIO: The Eternal Summer and Castle of Fear, they only say that they wanted to use Stockbridge as a setting for some audio adventures after it was first introduced in the comics. My guess is that whoever added that to the infobox maybe accidentally misinterpreted what they said. In AUDIO: The Eternal Summer you are correct, there IS a flashback scene to that exact comic strip, however, I haven't read the comic strip but it wasn't a big part, just a line or two taken directly from that strip (I'm guessing, it wasn't a long flashback, just a couple seconds). All I'm trying to say I guess is that it's an error and can be removed. The events that occur in that strip and in the audio certainly feed into each other, but again, haven't read the comic strip so can't comment on that aspect. The preceding unsigned comment was added by DoctorQuoi (talk • contribs) . DoctorQuoi 06:54, November 21, 2020 (UTC)DoctorQuoi

Hey Danochy! Haha not a problem, I completely understand, I'm in the same boat with regards to my Master's degree, that's why my activity has been pretty reduced lately. All the best on your courses, midterms/exams/assignments and otherwise!
Hahahaha awww, thank you so much, I really appreciate the acknowledgment! Yeah I've done about 35 now since I started on the wiki, my plan is to try get 100 done by this time next year, that should be about 1/3rd of the Main Range which as you mentioned will make the wiki, and the AUDIO section look a lot fuller. I'm so glad I've inspired you to try your hand at it too! It's actually not as hard as it looks, but I'm definitely no "Master" (pun not intended)! Jut listen and type as you do, hold off on writing things down until each episode/segment is over, often times a lot of stuff mentioned in the dialogue is unnecessary fluff, but it's still nice. Also let me know when you're finished, I'd be happy to run through it and edit it if need be, mine could also do with a solid polishing, however, my concern right now is to just get the plots onto the wiki, clean-up can always be done later! I have a few days off during the break, so I'm going to try and knock off a couple more of the The Early Adventures for the Second Doctor and get more 5th/6th/7th done. I'm definitely having a lot of fun with it though, some of these audios I haven't heard in over 10 years!! Almost forgot how exciting they can be!
Thanks for fixing Stockbridge too! I've ordered some of the comics with my holiday money to myself since I'll be staying inside more (chilly Northern hemi. ;P) and that includes the Stockbridge comic so I can update those pages properly once I'm better-versed in them. Do you know what our policy is regarding scanned images? Like, if I used my scanner at home to scan some pictures from the book, are we legally allowed to upload those images to the wiki? Best, happy holidays, good luck on school again and happiest of holidays! DoctorQuoi 06:54, November 21, 2020 (UTC)DoctorQuoi
Sure haha! I'm doing my Master's in theoretical chemistry/ chemical physics, it's a bit of a weird area that's a lot of physics, programming and chemistry but if you google it you'll get some cool results. Basically I live out of two journals, 'Journal of Chemical Physics' and 'Journal of Statistical Mechanics' haha (well, obviously many more but those happen to be ones I read often). Wow, structural biology?!? That's amazing, I never scored very well on biology tests, first year biology was very difficult for me, however, you'll always be in demand! Best of luck starting your graduate career! Any particular topic you're interested in or that you want to do your research in? Or are you opting for the classic "have advisor give me a subject and I'll see whether I enjoy it or not" approach? I will warn you, I did the latter and ended up almost failing my first semester, it really depends on the type of person you are though, I find it very difficult to do topics assigned to me if I have no interest in them... but it's ok graduate school is the time where you learn how to work these things out and learn more about yourself, so enjoy it I guess! Either way, best of luck, we both have long roads ahead but I've no doubt you'll do splendidly! Congratulations on getting your undergraduate degree! Any particular schools in mind you were going to apply to?
Ok perfect, that's excellent, thanks! It's the IDW Publishing full-colour version of the comics so it'll be a lot more aesthetically pleasing, especially for the comics pages, adding a little splash of colour hehe. I'll get on that tonight or whenever I'm free. Best, DoctorQuoi 20:14, November 22, 2020 (UTC)DoctorQuoi
Ugh I'm a bit apprehensive about the new lay-out so I'm just trying this reply as an experiment but here goes. Firstly, wow, I'm glad you like chemistry and I guess it figures you would then choose structural! Good for you of course! A number of biologists I've talked to avoided chemistry for that reason, especially those who end up in ecology, psychological biology or mathematical biology. However the two subjects are fundamentally linked and you will, sooner or later, encounter one within the context of the other so it still doesn't hurt to know both. I don't remember all the steps of the Krebs cycle but I still remember all the reactions simply due to their importance, you never know when it'll come up, especially at conferences!
That's amazing! Awesome project and sounds like you're really enjoying it! I know not everyone has the luxury to choose theirs and that's fair. Different strokes for different folks, some people prefer to just be assigned a topic and succeed in it, if that's you then that's great, you'll make an exceptional graduate student! Just curious, I have to ask, what sort of R.N.A. structures are you studying then such that you need to take completely new spectrographic measurements that aren't already available in a database somewhere? I'm out of the loop when it comes to biological molecules and current research, I'm afraid you'll have to refresh my memory haha. So much for "it still doesn't hurt to know both", I'm quite the hypocrite this month! It's nice that you like spectroscopy, I was forced to do an advanced course in it in order to complete the minimum number of accredited lab hours required for my degree and the other courses on offer weren't much different. It was awful, I hated every second of it, we were basically given 4 compounds and three months and we had to go into lab each week and perform different measurements and at the end we had to write up a report on what we characterized the unknowns to be for the lab component of the course. I hated mine because I got the especially tricky symmetric compound for my solid and was bamboozled for two weeks as to why my NMR had really intense peaks but so few of them despite my weird IR characterization, it only hit my in the middle of an assignment for another course I was doing one evening that it was symmetric (to be fair I pretty much put minimum effort into that course since I was taking way more fun stuff that semester like partial differential equations and stochastic processes). I remember I didn't do very well either, I got a C+ in that one if I recall correctly (the professor did NOT appreciate the "snarky" tone of my report as he put it). Not to say it isn't a cool subject, on the contrary, it just wasn't something I fancied ever doing. I know two people who have gone off to work in companies as 'characterizers' who said that that course was one of the best they ever took, mostly for the lab component. So you know... different strokes for different folks. I enjoy what I do, it's not very advanced, nor world-changing and I definitely will never be using the Hadron collider or any particle accelerator really (most unfortunately) for my work but I like it and it's fun haha and given my (lack of) abilities, it's perfectly suited for my mediocrity. :)
Whoof, yeah thanks for mentioning the colour thing, I'll read up on that, but if it's the case that super sucks, I kinda wanted the colour photos, they look very nice. Plus IDW doesn't hold the license anymore so I don't see the problem but oh well. 'Tis what 'tis. Luckily I'm going to wait for us to get the changeover to the new platform sorted first before embarking on any major editing or over-hauls. Cheers, DoctorQuoi 23:32, 24 November 2020 (UTC)DoctorQuoi
Very, very cool! I just had a quick glance at the wikipedia page for Paramyxoviridae, I had no idea it had associations with mumps and measles and respiratory infections! Go figure haha! Always trying to learn I am, so thanks! I had a quick review of nucleotide structures, I'm rather surprised you say you suspect you won't get helpful NMR signals, purines vs. pyrimidines always seemed to me like they had very strong unique functional groups, like the methyl on the thymine, I'd imagine if you coupled it with IR you'd get a pretty unique signal (if you isolate the RNA strand well enough) and it would be pretty easy to characterize, or does IR vibration destroy or cause it to react in some way I'm unaware of? Keep in mind I'm coming at this only with a basic biochemistry grounding, sadly my lab component for biochemistry focused solely on amino acids and proteins so I never really quite got to see the underlying laboratory studies and characterizations of things like DNA/RNA in that context. But your research project is really cool, I never thought about the uniqueness of the signal of a purine vs pyrimidine, nor the distinctness of signals from amino acids, they don't teach you to ask those kinds of questions in courses anymore, at least where I'm from, oh well. But please, keep telling me about your project! I often find from talking with colleagues that the best way to know/understand your project is to explain it to someone else. Anyway, at risk of sounding preachy, which if I do, I apologize, always try and explain it to everyone and anyone you can and ask yourself LOTS of questions about it! It sounds like you're on the right track though, good luck with the reading!
So funny thing, Master's is a bit more relaxed here with respect to which path you choose. There's two types, course-based which you pay the university and just take courses to earn your Master's or else you do what I'm doing, which is a general Master's, and you're typically expected to do both courses and research, and you have a maximum of three years to get that done. I'm half-way through my second year, I'm a little slow sadly, and opted for the regular meaning both courses and research. Typically if you're really good they accelerate you straight into a PhD if you prove outstanding in your first semesters of Master's. I was hoping to do a PhD but my advisor hasn't been impressed with my work so no letter of recommendation, so no PhD. I'm currently trying to decide what to do now, COVID of course has tanked the job market, I might try work at a start-up or else do some basic programming for a small business or something if COVID and corporations haven't fully killed them off yet. I don't know, we'll see. I spend my nights dreaming about being a certain Time Lord and traveling the universe in a battered old police box which would probably explain my presence on the wiki so often (the audio stories are a nice thing to help lull me to sleep after a long day, I get some pretty intense anxiety sometimes and find it extremely difficult to sleep) since real life sucks right now, at least for me haha. What classes are you thinking of taking? Cheers, DoctorQuoi 19:05, 25 November 2020 (UTC)DoctorQuoi

No problem, I hate long-format replies like this too, too cumbersome to write what you want and there's never enough time. I sent you a friend request on discord, may be easier to chat there haha. My discord tag is Umm, Who?#6801 , you'll recognize the profile picture right away haha. Cheers, DoctorQuoi 17:43, 14 December 2020 (UTC)DoctorQuoi

Timeline pages[]

Hey! There's ample precedent for stories which fail T:VS to be included on timeline pages, so please don't delete all the Fan Gallery stuff from the relevant timelines just because it's being ruled not-covered. After all, it was already there despite being invalid in the main namespace. Theory:Timeline - Iris Wildthyme contains her Phoenix Court appearances, if you want an example.

The links will have to point to the Lockdown! Wiki, is all.

Or at least, that's a possibility. Deleting them from the timelines is of course also possible if that's the consensus. But it's not a direct extrapolation from SOTO's ruling. Scrooge MacDuck 03:00, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas[]

Hello, there. I just wanted to stop by and wish you the merriest of Christmases, and a Happy New Year. May 2021 bring you the same joy that our conversations bring to me! BananaClownMan 14:12, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

The Fires of Vulcan[]

Hi, I'm just new here so I totally appreciate you changing my edit. I was just wondering where The Fires of Vulcan would appear in the Fifth Doctor's timeline. Whilst he doesn't appear in the story, it is mentioned that he was approached by UNIT about his TARDIS being discovered in Pompeii, and he knows his own TARDIS is parked in Hyde Park. This is the event I was referring to and as far as I can see, it has not yet been placed. TheCapaldi 19:57, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Re: Dr. Who[]

Well, what Epsilon is doing is partially in line with an idea developed at Talk:The Monk/Archive 1, which is that if a character has different names in different sources, paragraphs citing a given story should refer to the character by the name given in the source. We should say that e.g. "the Time-Meddler" appears in 4-Dimensional Vistas, not "the Monk".

"Dr. Who" vs. "First Doctor" is trickier because, as you say, "Dr. Who" could refer to any number of incarnations; it definitely shouldn't be in infoboxes, but I am partial to the idea that it should be used in the plot summaries, is my take, I think. Scrooge MacDuck 11:48, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Re: Dr. Who[]

Hiya.

To be honest. the Wiki should very much stop using "First Doctor" to refer to a character whose biography at the time was still being established (the concept of regeneration hadn't even been invented yet! And when it was, the Troughton Doctor heavily implied that he had used it several times before, thus making the numerics even more difficult to apply and making your point about "First Dr. Who" incorrect); however, I do acknowledge that the implementation of a name other than the retroactive "First Doctor" a mammoth job that will likely require a Forum thread for usage on prominent story pages. (And if I am being honest, "First Doctor" will likely be the better name for the Hartnell Doctor's page.)

However, that being said, the TV Comic stories are unambigous in their application of the name "Dr. Who", therefore, in part to remain in accordance with Tardis:Neutral point of view, "Dr. Who" should be the default name. Furthermore, at the moment I am only intergrating this name into the TV Comic stories, and only the TV Comic stories.

11:57, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

This is under discussion? What is there really to discuss? But nevertheless, as for the infobox thing, I'll change those to "First Doctor" for now seeing as 4-Dimensional Vistas is a precedent for this. 12:22, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
How? You asked a question, it was resolved with backing from the 4-Dimensional Vistas precedent and backed the Tardis:Neutral point of view. The infobox situation has also been resolved, and accordingly, I am reverting the infoboxes to say "First Doctor". 12:37, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

RE: Nomination[]

That is so kind of you and I'm honestly honoured that you think I would be deserving of the position, but I'm not sure I have the patience or the technical know-how to be an admin. I'm also not really familiar with a lot of policies - I have trouble even finding some of them and usually don't become aware of them unless I break them or I see an admin notify someone else who has broken them. As for my discussion posts, honestly it's not unheard of for me to take an hour to write a two paragraph post and then I spend the next however many minutes/hours worrying if the other person is going to take it the wrong way (anxiety is a bitch).

Plus, I already have enough trouble getting through my fandom emails as it is lol, I can't imagine what it would be like as an admin.

So thank you for the vote of confidence, it really does mean a lot, but I'm happy just being a regular editor for now. And if you would like to put your own name forward (I'm not quite sure how that process works), I would very much be in favour.

Thanks again and happy editing :) LauraBatham 05:39, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Re: Worshipful confusion[]

Er, I'm not sure what's confusing you about that sentnece. See User_talk:SarahJaneFan#Worshipful_confusion if that helps? Scrooge MacDuck 22:42, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Ah, right — well, at that point in the conversation it hadn't occurred to me that the idea of the actual same physical binding being reused, so I was simply using "the same red binding" as a turn of phrase, in the same way that you could say to describe an awkward social situation "Mrs X and Mrs Y turned up wearing the same blue dress", without implying thereby that the two were somehow squeezed together inside a single dress. In any case, your suggestion sounds good. Scrooge MacDuck 23:16, 11 July 2021 (UTC)