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This page is for discussing the ways in which Empress of Mars doesn't fit well with other DWU narratives. You can also talk about the plot holes that render its own, internal narrative confusing.
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- We never do find out exactly why the Doctor, Bill and Nardole are at NASA in the first place. It is not because of the message being found (which would make the rest of the episode a flashback) as it's clearly indicated they went to Mars to investigate its origin.
- It's not exactly a plot hole for the story, they likely were just wandering round as the Doctor always does when he's off on adventures.
- I think it's that the Doctor has already had the adventure, and has gone forward in time to mischeviously see what humanity makes of what he's done.
- Actually I think he was simply just taking Bill to see NASA and they just happened to be there when they discovered the "GOD SAVE THE QUEEN" message
- It's called a Macguffin. I admit it is a bad interpretation of a Macguffin, but one, none the less.
- Actually I think he was simply just taking Bill to see NASA and they just happened to be there when they discovered the "GOD SAVE THE QUEEN" message
- I think it's that the Doctor has already had the adventure, and has gone forward in time to mischeviously see what humanity makes of what he's done.
- It's not exactly a plot hole for the story, they likely were just wandering round as the Doctor always does when he's off on adventures.
- Why does the TARDIS just abandon the Doctor and Bill on Mars? It's not like there's an outward force controlling it like the Silence once did or that it shifted into another dimension like in the Pirate episode.
- Hostile Action Displacement System, perhaps?
- And since the TARDIS isn't on Mars for most of the episode, how can they understand the Empress and her Ice Warriors? The soldiers have probably taught 'Friday' English, I suppose.
- It's long been established that the TARDIS doesn't need to present for the translation matrix to function, as long as the person has travelled in the TARDIS.
- And since the TARDIS isn't on Mars for most of the episode, how can they understand the Empress and her Ice Warriors? The soldiers have probably taught 'Friday' English, I suppose.
- But the soldiers and the Ice Warriors haven't travelled in the TARDIS.
- Hostile Action Displacement System, perhaps?
- How were they able to move all those rocks, at the end? (Hope this doesn't get deleted!)
- I guess the super-strong Ice Warriors were able to move them.
- They are not seen on screen at the time. And, how would the Ice Warriors breath on the surface of Mars?
- What happened to all the other soldiers that survived? Why weren't they allowed to return home?
- I guess Alpha Centauri got them home somehow. But yes, it's a bit of a plothole.
- Where did the fuel for the fires in the tunnels come from?
- The soldiers brought some wood with them to Mars from Earth.