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Given that Bernice Summerfield has crossed over into the Unbound universe - is this Master still NotValid? Or is he from a parallel universe and should be considered the same as characters like Pete (Pete's World) Divewinds 23:08, August 25, 2016 (UTC)

This question is being covered at Thread:197392. Shambala108 23:30, August 25, 2016 (UTC)

New infobox image Edit

Now that it has been decided that the Master from Sympathy for the Devil (audio story) and the one from The Unbound Universe (audio anthology) are the same, may I suggest replacing the infobox image? From the current image's licensing, I see that the current one is categoryzed as an Illustration, but I could not find a single official source for it. The only websites I could find this image were fan-sites that were using this as an illustration for the article. OncomingStorm12th 02:28, August 28, 2016 (UTC)

Merge into main Master page? Edit

should this be merged into the main master page ? if not it would need all the stuff from that page from before Terror of the Autons duplicated because thats when the universes split. HomelessForsakenBetrayed&Alone

Eugh. I hate our overlong page for the Master, and I think this would benefit extremely by being separate from it. Something something T:DAB OTHER. – N8 22:06, January 3, 2018 (UTC)
It's fine as it is as its a completely separate master and we don't know anything about him before Sympathy. Adric♥NyssaTalk? 22:17, January 3, 2018 (UTC)
its only seperate after The Dark Path. that and The Destination Wars (audio story) and stuff about his life on gallifrey is still true for this master. the universes are the same up to the point where the second doctor regenerates. which is whySympathy for the Devil (audio story) says ‘What if...the Doctor had not been UNIT's scientific advisor?’ HomelessForsakenBetrayed&Alone
Let us start by establishing in-universe information available. Then it can be decided whether any changes are necessary. Please provide quotes supporting the claim that the split happened after the Dark Path. Amorkuz 23:15, January 14, 2018 (UTC)
Doctor: ‘[I'm] an old friend…But you see, back then i had a different face. Remember the Yeti?’ and later ‘I’m stuck here, Brigadier. People in high places don't like my attitude. They’ve dumped me somewhere i can’t do any harm and they’ve taken away my means of escape.’ (AUDIO: [[Sympathy for the Devil (audio story)]|]) He’s talking about first The Web of Fear and second his trial. Meaning that sympathy for the devil is after The War Games and i guess The Night Walkers (comic story)? (i haven’t read all that). The Dark Path has the second doctor, which means it’s before the second doctor’s trial/regeneration. Sympathy for the devil is after the second doctor's trial which means it's after the dark path. So it’s not about the dark path specifically. It’s just that stuff before Spearhead from Space (TV story)/Sympathy for the Devil (audio story) takes place in both timelines... As the blurb i quoted earlier says, the David Warner/Sam Kisgart timeline is what would have happened if the third doctor hadn’t been UNIT’s scientific adviser. HomelessForsakenBetrayed&Alone
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