BBC One logo 'production error' Edit

BBC One - altered

Nothing here indicates it is the BBC One logo.--Skittles the hog - talk 21:32, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Been rewatching on iPlayer and noticed something.

The supposed BBC One logo seen at 8:02 isn't the logo at all; it appears to be part of the set, presumably designating it as Kindness Facility One.

Any chance of getting this changed on the article?

Aldo1701 21:23, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Done--Skittles the hog - talk 21:26, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
Cheers. It was bugging me trying to figure out when everyone else had seen the logo.
Aldo1701 21:27, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

The Glasses AKA Brainy Specs Edit

The glasses that the Doctor digs out of the toolchest and gives Rory are the 10th Doctor's glasses AKA brainy specs. It had the ability to display what the glasses were pointed at, and communicate privately with the wearer or the area. The glasses later malfunction and is destroyed when the foster timeline ceases to be. It should be added to continuity or the Doctor's items.

TheLastDoctor 23:41, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

They were a completely different design to the 10th Doctor's specs. DanielM4712 12:58, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

You're right! Sorry about that, I watched it again and saw they were completely different. TheLastDoctor 18:10, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Doctor lite? Not so much. Edit

When I encountered it, the lead asserted this was a "Doctor-lite" episode. It's not, though. A Doctor/companion lite episode is one that arises from the production need to double bank two episodes at the same time. Thus, one or more of the primary artists are not available for one of the two episodes. Given the split season, and the almost leisurely pace of filming this year that allowed them to be completing shots as late as July/August, there was nothing double banked in series 6, and therefore no need for a "Doctor lite" episode.

Narratively, this is in no sense a Doctor lite episode, as the Doctor is present in virtually every scene. Granted, he's often there by remote control, but he's still there, with lines, the entire time. It is an unusual visual structure to have the three regulars often essentially alone in shots, but communicating with the others who are offscreen. But that doesn't make this "Doctor lite" any more than Father's Day is for concentrating on Rose and Pete, and having a few minutes where the Doctor has been removed from the scene by Reapers.
czechout@fandom   13:40:19 Sun 11 Sep 2011 

This is another example of "definition extension" that stretches the meaning of a term until it becomes useless. There has been argument over the definition of "Companion" for decades. The meaning of "Alias" on the "The Doctor's aliases" pages and the "also known as" boxes make those a mess. Perhaps this should be discussed in one of the community sections, but this looks a good place to point it out. As someone who favors precise writing, if only as a kindness to the reader, I feel more care should be taken.Boblipton 13:46, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

  • Although I agree this episode was not Doctor-lite it should be noted that a number of reviews do indeed refer to it as such. I'm not exactly sure where the figuring is though; in the past, Doctor-lite episodes have been generally episodes shot at the same time as others but there's no indication that was the case here. In a similar vein there was no Doctor-lite episode in Series 5 either (there was a companion-lite episode in The Lodger). The closest thing we've had to a Doctor-lite episode in the Matt Smith era is A Good Man Goes to War as the Doctor doesn't appear until 1/4 of the way into the episode. 14:53, September 11, 2011


The episode is Doctor-lite. Tom MacRae recently said it was in DWM, noting that it wouldn't even feel like one, as the Doctor appeared in almost every scene. It's very simple for the production crew to film the Doctor in the TARDIS, so that's why there are so many scenes of him, even though it's Doctor-lite. Matt Smith filmed Closing Time alongside this. It was produced as a Doctor-lite episode, and so it is one. D0ct0r11  21:04: Sun 9 Sep 2011

Green Screen Error Edit

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Notice the blue spot on the doctors hair

While watching the episode I noticed what appears to be an error whith the keying/green screen. This can bee seen at 44:49 on the doctors hair and happens to the back of his hear again when he turns his head.

Djx220 13:43, September 11, 2011 (UTC)DJX220

It's a bit tough to see, but if you mean the bitneart the bottom of his backhair, I think that's a bit of the back wall seen through curling hair. Boblipton 13:49, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

No, he means the bit straight above his right eye. It's not tough to see by any standard. It's a large patch of brightly coloured hair.--Skittles the hog - talk 13:54, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Actually there are two spots where this blue highlight is seen. Right above the eye as the screenshot above indicated and also when the Doctor turns before the screen fades away there is another blue highlight in the hair on the back of his head. I don't know if this is a error with a green screen as it doesn't appear to be a green screen scene. It could also be the overhead blue light shining in that hallway reflecting in the gel in Matt's hair. In the scene right before, you can see the same light shining a bluish tint on the sleeves of his shirt as he says he'll leave the both of them alone to talk. TheLastDoctor 18:15, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

To me, it's clear that the blue streak is a reflection of the ceiling/wall off Matt's hair gel. Haigh21 19:10, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Father's Day discussionEdit

I removed one item from the Continuity section:

The TARDIS' ability to sustain the paradox of a person in two different points of their timestream was previously shown in Father's Day as the TARDIS was unable to maintain the paradox of Rose Tyler touching her infant self.

This does not happen in the episode. Rose touches her infant self with no effect. The TARDIS "malfunction" in that episode was due to the paradox created by Rose saving her father's life and changing the timeline. It had nothing to do with her contacting her infant self. 14:48, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with the removing of that item, but as a note Rose Tyler never did actually touch her self in that episode. See Blinovitch Limitation Effect. You're correct that the paradox was the saving of her father's life. Spreee 17:24, October 18, 2012 (UTC)Spreee

Theme played in the tardis Edit

I notced that around 7:20 on the iplayer a small tape player looking device activates on the tardis console and plays a section of the old theme.

Well spotted, I just watched that bit again! Haigh21 11:31, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

I can see how that could be interpreted to be part of the theme song, but I can safely say that it's not. It's just a wibbly sound effect. D0ct0r11  20:11: Mon 9 Sep 2011
You can definitely hear it if you concentrate. Think of the 60s/70s version slowed right down. 20:20, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
I just checked it out... It is NOT a wibbly sound effect : it is really the 60's theme played backwards. Nafoute, R. C. with a P. in the M. 17:24, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Confidential Footage Edit

Was the racing car and/or shark diving footage as seen on the Confidential not intended to appear in the episode?

Yes Alpha111 07:13, September 13, 2011 (UTC)
The footage was Confidential giving Karen and Arthur a chance at doing something they always wanted to do. It had nothing to do with the episode. -- Future Companion
Thanks for the clarification! I suspected this but must have missed something they said. 10:42, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

as the disease kills anyone with two hearts if Amy was preganat would it kill her to as she techanicaly has two hearts at the time? 05:16, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

She wasn't pregnant at the time of "The Girl Who Waited". Also, having a fetus differs from a binary vascular system. 11:34, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Images with BBC logo on them. Edit

There's a couple of images with BBC One idents, but due to the episode's colour scheme, you have to really squint to see them. Should they still be removed per T:IUP LIST? -- Tybort (talk page) 03:34, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Spelling Edit

Just saw this on DVD a few hours ago. According to the subtitles, Apalapucia should be Appalapachia, Apalapucian should be Appalapachian, and Chen-7 should be Gen-7. --MrThermomanPreacher talk to me 07:34, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Floor Lamp in the TARDIS Edit

I am new here, so don't crucify me if this is not the right place to talk about this...

The floor lamps in the TARDIS look suspiciously similar to the ones in "Space: 1999" (Gerry and Sylvia Anderson & ITC Production of the 1970's)BorisCrepeauReel 08:11, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

improperly sourced Edit

Moving this here because it may need to be more specific, and it certainly needs to be formatted properly. Shambala108 06:03, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

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