Talk: Human

==Affiliations==

as mention before, it would look silly if we put the Doctor's name as affiliated with every species he has had a connection with (because he has gotten affiliated with so many), but thought I would make an exception in this case, because it just seems right.

by [[Bernice Summerfield]]'s time humans and [[Silurian]]s have a peaceful co-existence and in some other stories (one set in an alt. timeline and the Big Finish UNIT minseies).I just thought I would mention that even though I decided not to put their name under affiliations. also, by Bernice's time, [[Draconian]]s and humans have also made peace. 

I decided to not put down the names of the slace races the [[Ood]] and the [[Monoid]]s.

once we have a list of aliens that have affected Human devlopment (many), we should link to a separate article on the topc. --[[User:***Stardizzy***|***Stardizzy***]] 13:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

==In Biologically modified category==

I just thought I would explain this: [[the Fendahl]] influenced [[human]] development, as so the categorization. --[[User:***Stardizzy***|***Stardizzy***]] 13:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

==History of humans==

not written yet, but this should cover (though overlap) the history of [[Earth]]. will go into humans on a wider scale and go into depth on other topics not related to Earth at all, after Earth gets cinderized, etc. --[[User:***Stardizzy***|***Stardizzy***]] 13:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

== Question... ==

In [[TV]]: [[The Time of Angels]], the Eleventh Doctor compares Humans to rabbits and comments that he'll never be done saving them.  Should that be in the article? --[[User:Reikson|Reikson]] 20:20, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

== Image ==
:Can we change the image from the one it is now. As it stands, the image has DWA (or similar) down the bottom left, which makes it out of universe, when it should be in-universe. Does anyone have any suggestions as to which image to use? [[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]]23:18, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

::I also think it should be changed, to a newer, more modern image. I don't like the obvious logo. If the image is not going to be changed, someone should at least cut off the bottom, removing the logo. [[User:D0ct0r11|D0ct0r11]] 20:06, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

:::I've changed it to a group of humans we saw in [[1969]] from [[TV]]: ''[[Day of the Moon]]''. Is it okay? [[User:BroadcastCorp.|BroadcastCorp.]] 14:43, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
::::It's a improvement, but all of them are caucasian men who look around the same age. There are lot of Whoniverse stories that show more diverse crowds than that. --[[User:MrThermomanPreacher|MrThermomanPreacher]] 14:59, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
:::::What stories? [[User:BroadcastCorp.|BroadcastCorp.]] 15:41, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
::::::[[TV]] ''[[The Sound of Drums]]'' (people in the Valiant, people watching TV), [[TV]] ''[[The Stolen Earth]]'' (prisoners of the Daleks), [[TV]]: ''[[The New World]]'' (people outside the hospital), that's just three off the top of my head. --[[User:MrThermomanPreacher|MrThermomanPreacher]] 17:22, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

:::::::Oh right. I have recently replaced the image with one from [[TV]]: ''[[The Hungry Earth]]'', showing [[Rory Williams]] (man), [[Ambrose Northover]] (woman) and [[Tony Mack]] (old man). There's no old woman though. Nor a Black person. I'm just going to flick through [[TV]]: ''[[The Sound of Drums]]'' and [[TV]]: ''[[The New World]]'' to see if there are any good images better than the one I uploaded. Just with ''The New World'', can you tell me the time (eg. 34:47) where the people outside the hospital are. Thanks. :) [[User:BroadcastCorp|BroadcastCorp]] 07:41, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

::::::::Its about 29:30.--[[User:MrThermomanPreacher|MrThermomanPreacher]] 10:22, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

And I have removed it. This article is about humans, not about Rory or Ambrose or Tony. The picture should show a group (preferably mixed races and genders) of humans that have are unnamed. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 10:14, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

This? [[User:BroadcastCorp|BroadcastCorp]] 11:02, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
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::Yeah. --[[User:MrThermomanPreacher|MrThermomanPreacher]] 12:47, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

How about this from [[TV]]: ''[[The Sound of Drums]]''? [[User:BroadcastCorp|BroadcastCorp]] 11:02, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
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::Yeah that's a good one. --[[User:MrThermomanPreacher|MrThermomanPreacher]] 12:09, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
Should I add it then? ''[[User:BroadcastCorp|BroadcastCorp]]'' <small>(''[[User talk:BroadcastCorp|talk]])''</small> ― 15:04, July 30, 2011 (UTC)
:::The first one: No. It's too dark and has two named humans in it (Andy Davidson and Gwen Cooper). The second one seems fine to me though. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 15:06, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

== Prop split ==

I think we should split this between [[Human]] and [[Proto-human]]/New human (''we'd only put a <nowiki>{{You may}}</nowiki> there, since [[New human (New Earth)|another species]] bears that name'')/[[Human-ish]]. In [[TV]]: ''[[The End of the World (TV story)|The End of the World]]'', [[Lady Cassandra]] says that humans have "mingled" with other species, and now call themselves "new humans," "proto-humans," or even "human-ish." They must be biologically different, at least slightly, though still similar in appearance. This would mean that every "human" post-[[Earth]] is actually a proto-human. This includes those from [[TV]]: ''[[New Earth (TV story)|New Earth]]'', ''[[Utopia (TV story)|Utopia]]'', ''[[The Beast Below (TV story)|The Beast Below]]'', even ''[[The Ark in Space (TV story)|The Ark in Space]]''! Actually, scratch that: the humans in TAIS were hibernating for thousands of years directly after the destruction, and didn't inter-marry (they were "pure" — all the same. What are your thoughts on the split?<br />--[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 17:04, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
: As Rose says, "They evolved, Cassandra. As they should." If we were talking real world speciation, as long as they can interbreed, they'd still be the same species. --[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:01, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

== Earth descent ==

The first parts of the article really push the idea that ‘human’ means ‘Earthling’ or ‘of Earth descent’, but as the last section (and some of the material it cites) show that people from other worlds can also be human. And in at least some cases, it would seem to be a pretty direct description rather than a figure of speech (most recently, humans from Mondas). It seems like cats, mice and snakes, humans came about naturally on more than one planet.
—-[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] [[User talk:MissRatbat|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:16, 12 June 2021 (UTC)