Board Thread:The Panopticon/@comment-4028641-20151008023030/@comment-6032121-20191105162513

I'm not sure what you're arguing here, Schreiben. That Legacy presents Delgado as the Thirteenth Master, or that it actually features a non-Delgado 13th Master?

If it's the former, my reasoning isn't so much "this line is definitive proof that Legacy still considers Delgado the Twelfth Master" as "this line means what Legacy says about Delgado is ambiguous, so in light of later evidence that he's the Twelfth Master, we go with that".

If it's the latter… have you read the book? Everything from his just coming off of Frontier in Space, to his speech patterns, to his ownership of a beard (which Beevers' Master famously lacks) points towards this being the Delgado Master. And even if that didn't convince you, Beevers-as-a-separate-incarnation-from-Delgado hadn't yet been thought up at the time John Peel wrote Legacy of the Daleks, so this becomes a similar discussion to the "two Romana IIIs" one: if two stories unrelated come up with a new incarnation of a Time Lord, which supposedly occupy the same number, but have different faces and histories, do we consider them the same or not? (Leaning towards a resounding "not".)