User talk:Cyruptsaram

'''Welcome to the Cyruptsaram Thanks for your edits at 2099! We hope you'll keep on editing with us. This is a great time to have joined us, because now you can play the Game of Rassilon with us and win cool stuff! Well, okay, badges. That have no monetary value. And that largely only you can see. But still: they're cool! We've got a couple of important quirks for a Wikia wiki, so let's get them out of the way first. British English, please We generally use British English round these parts, so if you're American, please be sure you set your spell checker to BrEng, and take a gander at our spelling cheat card. Spoilers aren't cool We have a strict definition of "spoiler" that you may find a bit unusual. Basically, a spoiler, to us, is anything that comes from a story which has not been released yet. So, even if you've got some info from a BBC press release or official trailer, it basically can't be referenced here. In other words, you gotta wait until the episode has finished its premiere broadcast to start editing about its contents. Please check the spoiler policy for more details. Other useful stuff Aside from those two things, we also have some pages that you should probably read when you get a chance, like:
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Hi there. Please remember to add categories to articles you create because articles that are not categories fall off the search index and can be candidates for deletion. Also please note that when writing "the Doctor" during a sentence, the "The" should not be capitalised. Thanks. --Revan\Talk 07:48, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Categories
When adding categories please be aware that you add categories that actually exist. I have spent most of the morning going through your articles removing the "character" category and adding ones such as "individual humans" among others. Please observe the changes that I have made to your edits to better understand the working of the wikia. Thanks. --Revan\Talk 13:52, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

We have categories covering this already such as the Prose writers or Audio writers categories. When adding the categories to a page from the published page, a drop-down box comes up giving you all the categories we have, and refines itself as you type a category. Hope that helps. --Revan\Talk 14:03, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I've enjoyed reading your edits so far, you evidently have a wide knowledge of the DWU and do the wikia a great service by adding new articles from stories that we currently don't have much information on. Let me know if there's anything I can help with at a later time. Until then, enjoy editing here! --Revan\Talk 14:14, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Also, when tagging categories, don't use the "Individuals" category unless a page cannot be categorised as anything else. It's a category of last resort, you might say. Memnarc talk to me 08:23, July 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Among other things, yes. When tagging individuals, it's a good idea if you look to see if what time period they come from is identified in the story (or stories) they appear in. You also want to look for identifying characteristics, like their species or their profession. Finally, for easy tagging, start typing in the little tag area at the bottom of each page until a menu pops up. That should give you some idea if the category you want to give the page exists or not. Don't start creating new tags until you're better versed at categorising. Memnarc talk to me 08:57, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Recent edits
Hi! You're doing a great job of adding information to the wiki that wasn't here before. However, before you go much farther, you might want to take a look at the Manual of Style. It's a list of style rules that this wiki follows. It will help you in further editing, and your edits won't need to be corrected so much. Thanks! Shambala108 talk to me 17:18, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to second this advice. When editing, try to keep the tone more formal, rather than conversational. Memnarc talk to me 06:34, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Block
You have been blocked for a period of not longer than 24 hours for a pattern of editing behavior that is disallowed. You have been adding categories which are unnecessary, and which will not likely be created. More information will follow after a more thorough review has been completed. I needed to stop you cold in your tracks so that the reversal of your edits would not be so laborious.

Despite this, rest assured that your presence here is appreciated, and this blocking doesn't mean you're a "bad" editor. In fact, the ban will be lifted very much sooner than 24 hours. Consider it a li'l "hold on a second" rather than anything actually punitive. 20:49: Sun 15 Jul 2012
 * My apologies for not getting back to you sooner. I hadn't originally intended the ban to last this long, but real life intervened.


 * Basically, the deal is that we don't really need categories that consists of people's names, like Category:Verity Lambert. Category names must tell us something a bit more than that.  Moreover, these categories are inconsistent with our current goals of adding what's called Semantic MediaWiki coding to the site.  We haven't quite got around to doing the classic series, but if you'll notice, we already have in place extensive SMW coding on the new series.


 * What this coding allows us to do is to create a truly relational database, wherein we can ask questions like, "What stories were written by Russell T Davies and directed by Euros Lyn?" This query would provide, in its very simplest form:


 * So while I see where you were going with your category placement, this isn't the architecture that we want to build — especially on behind-the-scenes personnel — because it doesn't give us any ability to relate one thing to another.


 * At the end of the day, your categories would have been stripped anyway. I was merely stopping you before you wasted too much of your time.


 * As I stressed in my first message, your presence here is both appreciated and required. I again apologize for not being able to write this follow up message sooner.  Your block is now lifted.  15:08: Mon 16 Jul 2012


 * Thank you very much, I will resort to categorising with available categories. But you don't seem to have unblocked me. I do not mean to sound forward, I agree with your advice, and it was absolutely fair that you blocked me. To be honest, I don't even know why I began to all those categories in the first place.


 * I just looked over the block and it isn't in place now. Have you tried to edit an article? --Revan\Talk 17:00, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

a thank you from me
I was going through the recent activity lists to see if there were any new articles that needed cleaning up and saw that Czechout had left a message, said "Uh oh" to myself and  went to see what he had said and done. First, let me note that I have been cleaning up your articles because that is my specialty here. I basically watch the TV shows and that's it, so I don't contribute many new articles, but I do know how to edit and clean up text a lot better than -- to put it without false modesty -- anyone else here. You give me a lot to clean up, but that's fine -- our skills are complementary. You catch the fish, I clean 'em.

From my viewpoint, Czechout knows how to write well, but has gotten trapped in a bureaucratic mindset and I've had a couple of wrangles with him and been locked out once. I'm not sure which feels worse for you: the implication that you're not the best writer in the world or being told you're a bad boy because you didn't do some damned bureaucratic nonsense. I also think the manual of style is unreadable and badly intentioned -- writing well is a matter of thought and practice and highly idiosyncratic. I urge you not to let the bastards grind you down, to keep on doing what you do well and expanding your self-imposed tasks slowly and deliberately.

To sum up, I don't expect anyone to do everything well around here but you certainly do something well: you get the facts down on their appropriate pages in a form where they can be cleaned up pretty easily. I say more than thank you, I say "bravo." I hope you'll keep on doing it. It certainly gives me something to do.Boblipton talk to me 21:09, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

I'm gonna jump in here and add my voice. I completely agree with Boblipton here and definately don't think that because of the ban we don't want you here on the wiki. In my opinion your additions to the wiki are exactly what this wiki needs to grow; new articles from non-TV productions which are sadly neglected by other users. I can see why ChzechOut enforced a ban on you, but I'd just like to say that in my opinion it was a tad harsh a punishment. So on the basis of all that I have said, I hope you decide to continue editing here. --Revan\Talk 21:44, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Years pages
I have a sneaky way of doing it which can't really go wrong. Just go on another year page and click to edit it, then copy all the page and paste it onto the year page you want to make and change the dates. Simple. --Revan\Talk 09:09, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Audio stories
Should the plots be filled in? I should think so! I would suggest using the classic stories as models, since the modern stories are overloaded with details that are irrelevant to the word PLOT.

Although some of the items are set up with templates that are intended for other sorts of items, most stories -- what the high-falutin' people around here call"narrative sources" can use an introduction, a synopsis (brief on the order of "The Doctor and Amy go to the Moon and eat green cheese"), a plot (the skeleton of the story), notes and continuity. If you can do some of these, it would be great. Boblipton talk to me 10:45, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

I am astounded at your capacity for soaking up all this stuff. I bought one issue of DWM -- the new companion with great dimples -- and that was enough for me. Still, go to it. By the way, I noticed your asking how to add a timeline tag. As a general rule, when I want to add a tg but don't know what it is, I hunt up an article that has the tag and check it out by putting the article in editing mode.Boblipton talk to me 12:29, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Past tense
Please remember to write artciles in the past tense. The first sentence of your article "Perpetuity Chamber" was written in the present tense. Also please remember to add a source to your edits, as I had to go through the "what links here" tool to find what pages linked to the article to that I could add a source for you. Thanks. --Revan\Talk 14:24, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Categories
Articles which have categories such as "planets visited by the Doctor" or "humanoid species" don't need the "planets" or "species" categories added also. This is because if these are added then they will show up twice in the system as the "humanoid species" category is a subcategory of "species". Thanks. --Revan\Talk 16:19, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Please don't add categories to your blog, as categories are saved for pages within the wiki. Thanks. --Revan\Talk 07:42, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Emily Boyes-Dennison
Dear Cyruptsaram, I am having some issues editing Emily Boyes-Dennison. I cannot tell, the way the article is phrased, whether her father or she designed the ships. If you would tell me which, I can do the editing. Boblipton ☎  10:49, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

That was quick. Thanks!Boblipton ☎  10:52, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

tinkering with hyperlinks
Just a hint because I know that the fussiness of hyperlinks drives me crazy -- especially given some of the weird, made-up names and the extended ones like Cursing the Course of the Bourse of the Nekkistanni Horse House and Fgh!kkrj of the People (audio story) -- it got really annoying when auto-suggest wasn't working.

Where was I? Oh, yeah. Although auto-suggest only recognizes the name of the link if you capitalize the first letter of the name, you can go back, put it in lower case and so avoid the long form where you put the upright line and the case you want. I noticed this morning that you had written {open double bracket} The Moon|the Moon {close double brackets}. It does just fine if you just just do the bracketing around "the Moon". It's case sensitive after the first letter, but then so are most of us.

I hope that's clear enough and a bit helpful. Boblipton ☎  10:47, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Categories
I recently re-read your response above, and I was disturbed by something. I don't want to suggest that you can't create new categories. Obviously any user can create a category. The only thing I want to stress is that you examine what's called the "category tree" — the thing which binds all the categories together — and see how categories are typically named and used. If you have questions, please ask. A good place to start your exploration is, our top-level category. Or you can just click on the word "Category" in the category listing on any page. 18:29: Mon 23 Jul 2012

Individual Humans
Hey there, just letting you know that the proper category we have is "Individual humans" and not "Human individuals". I've corrected your edits so far, but please remember this when creating more articles. Thanks. --Revan\Talk 12:54, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Edit problem
Hi! I have noticed some issues with some of your recent edits. For example, on the cat page it took you 8 edits just to list a reference. Also, there were some edits where you added unnecessary periods and then immediately removed them on separate edits. I don't know what the issue is, but I just wanted to give you the heads-up that this type of editing can look like vandalism, and I've seen users warned and/or blocked for this. Shambala108 ☎  16:17, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * I thought it might be something like that. I can completely relate, I have had many different kinds of problems mess with my edits since I've been doing this. Shambala108 ☎  16:53, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

Diagnosing your editing problems
Sorry to hear you're experiencing editing problems. Without more information, the only thing I can tell you is that it is a problem specific to you. I've received no reports of similar problems affecting other users. I've seen no traffic at Wikia Central suggesting a problem broadly affecting users' editing abilities. (Bugs do tend to get noticed on Thursdays and Fridays, because updates usually happen late Wednesdays.)

I'm going to need from you some more specific details to help you.


 * 1) What operating system — including precise version number — are you using?
 * 2) What browser — including precise version number — are you using?
 * 3) Is this a problem that affects you regardless of the browser you're using? (If so, please include all browsers and version numbers you have on your system.)
 * 4) Are you using any version of Internet Explorer?
 * 5) Could you describe in more detail what you mean by "my computer is chucking me out of the edit zone"? In what way is it doing this?  I'm guessing from the above messages that it's not just aborting; it's actually publishing. Does it happen only when you're typing?  If you open an edit window and do nothing will it still "chuck you out"?
 * 6) Does this behavior only happen at tardis.wikia.com, or can you reproduce it on other wikia.com sites?
 * 7) Is your keyboard set up in a completely default way, or do you have certain "special" keys redefined so as to, for example, play certain video games or type certain symbols more efficiently?
 * 8) Do you have any personal CSS or JS enabled on your Wikia account?

The only thing we can do to diagnose an unusual, person-specific problem is to start at the top and eliminate things one by one. We'll figure it out, though. 17:15: Fri 03 Aug 2012