User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-26469787-20150726050336/@comment-26469787-20160109230641

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-26469787-20150726050336/@comment-26469787-20160109230641 SOTO wrote: I do not think there is any indication in-universe, taking production errors into account, for the Seventh Doctor serials you mentioned taking place out of order. "Hints" are not enough to justify going specifically against broadcast order. As you've stated yourself, the issue at hand is that they shifted around the order and did not make edits to accommodate this, leading to inconsistencies. Those inconsistencies are nothing more than production errors, remnants of the original intended order of the series which was not the final one.

I fail to understand what you are suggesting. If you wish to rule out "production errors" as determining factors of continuity, then surely every story ever takes place in release order. We have no in-universe justification for it, but given how I feel you suggest that production trumps narrative continuity, surely all BF main range stories take place in order, with the rotation between actors and characters simply "production errors". TWORS does not occur put of order for any of the characters, rather TIA takes place out of order for the Doctor. But surely by your ruling, this is also a production error. The Doctor does indeed die, come back to life for no reason, and everything stated by River about how he must be from earlier in his timeline is similarly wrong.

What I'm trying to get at is the fact that production cannot take precedence over narrative continuity. I get the point many of you are making: therefore, production ordering cannot take precedence over final airing order, and I accept that. But that was never my argument. What I argue is that when stories clearly make narrative sense in one order and not another, they should be represented as such on this wiki. While both the VNAs and BF's Lost Stories attempt to give us a Season 27, the only in-universe ordering ever presented for Greatest Show is prior to Silver Nemesis, and likewise with TCOF and GL. My narrative based order mirrors neither production order nor the originally intended broadcast order. It simply follows in-narrative referencing in order to make placements, and therefore rearranges the ordering of certain stories as compared to he (out of universe) broadcast order.