Talk:TARDIS Eruditorum

Contributed Interviews & BTS Material
So there isn't much in the way of interviews per se on the main project. I could add in discussion of the associated podcast, which absolutely has interviews, but those are more a side area. As for BTS material, I think the most prominent example is Harness giving access to earlier scripts of The Pyramid at the End of the World (TV story), something on the blog but not yet in print. Would comments on the website count? If so, that would be a truly massive undertaking to document. Najawin ☎  20:25, June 2, 2020 (UTC)
 * Just include the books, not the website. If we include the website, we'll have to cover every single fan blog that some rando wrote on the internet, and I know that no one wants that. The books are fine to cover, though, wiki rules allow it. Also, covering only the books solves the deadname problem you mentioned below. Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived ☎  21:55, June 2, 2020 (UTC)
 * I mean, I'd argue that some of the rando fan blogs probably should be on here, like DoWntime. But it's definitely a slippery slope and depends heavily on issues of quality. My concern is if we cut out the website we're definitely losing some of the text, since the comments are part of the text. And again, we're in a weird spot where we have things like Kate Orman talking about her thoughts on The Timeless Children (TV story) in the comments section of this website, indeed, in parts of the website that aren't technically part of "TARDIS Eruditorum" but are instead episode reviews that are like TARDIS Eruditorum 0.1. It's really weird and should definitely be discussed, you're right.Najawin ☎  22:09, June 2, 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree, for a few reasons. First, what does Kate Orman's opinions on The Timeless Children (TV story) have to do with the wiki at all, except maybe as a couple sentences on her page. Second, including DoWntime the blog is frankly, in my opinion, a bad idea. It opens the floodgates to, as I said, randos on the internet, including some pretty high profile NMDs and others of bigoted leanings. Plus, its a fan blog. This is a wiki for official stuff, like the book. Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived ☎  22:18, June 2, 2020 (UTC)
 * So let's be clear here about a few different things. The first is "thanks to the internet, how creators interact with fans has radically changed and will continue to radically change". This is the point made with the Kate Orman example. My point is that we're in a very weird spot due to these things, not that we should have a free for all or that the Kate Orman example is explicitly an argument for keeping the website, but more a symbol of the times we live in and how documenting things properly becomes near impossible given the decentralized nature of the internet. Next, the book isn't really official. It's just as much a fan work as the blog. Similar for most reference books in fact, they're covered under fair use. And then as for DoWntime, I did make it clear that I agreed that it was a very slippery slope and it very much depended on the specifics of the website. The example I picked was specifically of very high quality for this reason. Najawin ☎  22:41, June 2, 2020 (UTC)

Deadname Issue
Another problem that emerges is that because the blog has a comment section and the other is trans, and this project started before she transitioned, older comments will refer to her by her deadname. And since the older comment sections aren't threaded, if users go back and attempt to read these old sections without knowing this fact, they might become confused as to who (deadname) is, when people respond with that, since nobody there is by that name. I'd make a note of this, but I believe it's against wiki policy, and am unsure how to proceed. Since this is a situation where knowing this actually provides important context for properly understanding bits of the work (ie, the comments). Najawin ☎  20:25, June 2, 2020 (UTC)
 * See my above comment for a way to avoid including the deadname. Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived ☎  22:01, June 2, 2020 (UTC)

Why is this covered here?
I'm just wondering why this website and series of books are being covered by this wiki when they are not released by any license holders, and thus fail the critera to be included? Sabovia (Message Wall) 20:57, June 2, 2020 (UTC)
 * There's substantial precedent. For instance, all of the works referenced in the body of the article, but most notably About Time and The Black Archive. Najawin ☎  20:59, June 2, 2020 (UTC)

Wonky Structure
So I'm assuming this is in reference to "Recurring sections", "Fundamental concepts", and now "Associated podcast", though that wasn't present at the time. I actually think these are appropriate. If we look at About Time, we see a "Notable features" section. This is, in a sense, breaking up "Notable features" into two separate sections to better explain each section. The "Associated podcast" being wonky is a fair cop, though I think it's the only reasonable solution to the issue of including the info without making a weird stub. Najawin ☎  22:01, June 2, 2020 (UTC)


 * If you are splitting the sections in two, why can't they both be under the same heading as sub-headings? So 1. Features --> 2a.Notable aspects + 2b.Associated podcasts, or something like this. Snivy   ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦   22:04, June 2, 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmm. That could work. I'll try that and if it doesn't look good we can change it back. Najawin ☎  22:09, June 2, 2020 (UTC)
 * Not sure about the podcast bit, what do you think? Najawin ☎  22:12, June 2, 2020 (UTC)


 * I mean, you are the main creator of the article so far. Since it's in its early days, you should really add as much content as you have on to the article, since information is always good. We can sort out the structures and cutting down information deemed unneeded later. Snivy   ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦   22:15, June 2, 2020 (UTC)

I meant whether it should be a subheading or not. Just a formatting issue really. Najawin ☎  22:17, June 2, 2020 (UTC)