User talk:Michael Downey

Stories
If you go to my User page to external links you can go to a website where two of my stories can be found. At the moment I’ am writing a fifth story called Monster starring the Second Doctor and Jamie McCrimmon. And I totally agree it takes ages to write a story.

Jcamts

Brazilian version
Hello Michel,

I speak Portuguese and I live in Brazil. Excuse me, but I don't write well in English.

I am a fan of "Doctor Who". I really enjoy the series and would like to create a Wiki, along with Brazilian friends in Wikia, in Portuguese on the series.

Can you help me? What procedures should I take?

RE: Merlin
Hi, Since i come from Australia and don't actually have BBC1 i have never seen the show before sorry i couldn't be of any help with the new wiki Dark Lord Xander 07:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Re spotlight page
I noted in the page notes that I changed it back for November. November being the 45th anniversary of Doctor Who. It will stay like that for the rest of November. After that I'm sure we can change it to something fitting. --Tangerineduel 15:45, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Citation
I've had a quick look at the video and it's not really precise in which episode it's referring to, so maybe it could be noted in the notes rather than the infobox? But the ref tags are okay you just missed the last one which should be so it would look like That's what it means when it says " Cite error: Closing missing for ref tag was missing. Hope this helps. --Tangerineduel 14:03, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Naismith page
There is a discussion page on the Naismith page, if you bothered to look at that and left a message there, I would have seen it Bigshowbower 12:34, October 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * I second this. If you disagree with a proposed deletion please leave a message (as Bigshowbower has done) and discuss it on the article's talk page. --Tangerineduel 13:01, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

TARDIS crew member page and Series 5 page
For the TARDIS crew member page it is generally considered that member add their names from the bottom of the article, rather than the top, please leave it that way.

The Series 5 page; copying and pasting information does not maintain the article's page history. As for the naming issue, there has been some discussion on the article's talk page, I would encourage participating in the discussion on the article's talk page as this may be a somewhat contentious issue. Thanks. --Tangerineduel 14:37, October 24, 2009 (UTC)


 * TARDIS list of crew members. Righty I don't dispute you added your name at the top when you joined here, but as I noted then, as now user details should go at the bottom of the list. I've readded your user details, not at the bottom, but rather under the last name that was added when you first added your name in July 2008. --Tangerineduel 06:03, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Renaming, moving and page history and Eve
Hello again. Page history is important on all wikis and wikipedia, it lets users look back and see the history of a page, see which editors have contributed to the article and if necessary return to a previous edit. In the case of an article that needs to have its name changed, the method is to move the page rather than copying and pasting the content. By using the move button it moves the page's entire history to the new name, copying and pasting its content does not, this starts the page again without any history (and by this method implies that the editor who has begun the page created all the content).

The Eve page has been reverted numerous times as, if you click the "What links here" link on the left in the sidebar the only articles that link to "Eve" relate to Eve of Museum of the Last Ones.

Though while I'm addressing this I will add that the naming conventions for disambiguating names is to put the story the character is from in brackets rather than anything else for instance see Scott (the disambiguation page) has Scott (The Daleks' Master Plan) and Scott (Earthshock). Though this is not necessary for Eve as I've said there are no other articles that link to Eve other than those that refer to that character. --Tangerineduel 12:01, October 25, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thats what I've been trying to say I'll just move the page then thanks Michael Downey 12:04, October 25, 2009 (UTC)


 * Not quite (in reference to Doug86's talk page). I said that it wasn't necessary to do so. I explained the how and why of disambiguating names. Additionally moving the page does not change the "What links here" links. --Tangerineduel 12:20, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Additionally the feature articles...
The point of the feature article section was to leave it. Please don't just delete other user's votes, talk comments (on the front page for instance) this is considered vandalism, please do not do this. --Tangerineduel 12:20, October 25, 2009 (UTC)


 * This is possibly where we're having a disconnect. The point behind my post in the forum was to invite community feedback, rather than just deleting it all and beginning again. The comments and votes are still valid and perhaps we can revist them once everything is rebooted.
 * But charging in creating a spotlight article voting system without the policy to back it up and other things invites disaster as should problems occur we don't have anything to fall back on or to refer to.
 * Feel free to add the article to the feature article nomination and to try and get people voting for it using the currently in place framework.
 * The spotlight article currently in place that you've added is fine for now. (Though lacking in information relating to his later appearances). --Tangerineduel 12:30, October 25, 2009 (UTC)


 * Again with the deleting of information on talk pages. Please do not do this, this is vandalism. Just because the process has been altered does not mean the talk page information should be deleted, that talk page info was left in place during the last 'nominations for feature article' process, and it will be left through this process. --Tangerineduel 12:16, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Series 5 Talk Page
Hi, I altered your talk comment on the Series 5 talk page to preserve the spoiler free nature of the talk page. As I noted in the previous revertered edit of the talk page, please keep the spoilers (or potential spoilers) to the Series 5 page, that has the spoiler tag on it. As the article talk page is used to discuss the page as a whole, not just the elements that may or may not be a spoiler. A link to the website with the list of episode names achieves the same result. Though if you believe this detracts from the talk page I'll revert my edit. Thanks. --Tangerineduel 08:13, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Copying articles
When converting an article to a new name, it should be moved. If you cannot move it, you should contact an admin to have it moved. Otherwise, the entire history is gone, and that's a really bad thing. Please heed that in future, thanks. -- sulfur 00:55, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Also, do not remove comments made by other people from talk pages. -- sulfur 03:06, January 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * I second this. Copying the article manually and adding a redirect (and then) making edits to said page creates several extra steps in order to rectify it and preserve both pages histories. --Tangerineduel 13:38, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Removal of content from user pages
Warning: It is vandalism to remove content from a user's user page (including sub-pages). --Tangerineduel 11:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * If you believe what the user has done is incorrect leave a message on their talk page. However, I would add that if you look through the user in question's talk page history (in addition looking at the title of their sub-page), it appears they are using it as a 'workdesk'. Some users use sub-pages to test edits out, prior to placing them on the wiki.
 * I really advise talking to any users whom you find issue with their content on their user pages rather than altering their work (what users put on their user page and what they say on talk pages and the forums is their own and should not be altered) (there are exceptions in cases of offensive material etc, but usually an admin will handle that). --Tangerineduel 11:56, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Episode infobox
The infobox is just to highlight a summary of the main features of the story. The References section on all story pages is used to go into further detail of the references made within the story. See something like Remembrance of the Daleks, or Unnatural History for how the references section is used to go into further detail of things that have appeared in the story. --Tangerineduel 14:38, February 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Having an appearances section in the infobox would quickly get out of hand (likely with people adding very minor appearances etc). The infobox is just a summary of the main features of the article.
 * Also just to note, the references section is in-universe. See Tardis:Format for Television Story Entries for more info. --Tangerineduel 14:50, February 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * But that's what the infobox is, it's a summary of the main features.
 * It will get out of hand, most things, unless they're clearly defined get out of hand. The infobox has very clearly defined elements to it; name, Doctor, companions, writer etc.
 * Alien/Enemy appearances is something a little less well defined. For something like Planet of the Dead or other stories it might seem simple enough, but looking at the wider wiki when you look through to other stories that have more than one or two alien appearances, the list could be excessively long. --Tangerineduel 15:04, February 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia actually doesn't. They tend to go for the primary points as we do. An Unearthly Child, they list Doctor, companions and guest stars, we've got; Doctor, Companions, enemy, setting etc.
 * Yes some pages on this wiki aren't detailed, that is an argument to add more content to the article, rather than add more fields to the infobox (which as I've said is a summary).
 * Additionally, just thinking about it, to have a field in the infobox it'd need to be called 'Species' appearance', as alien is relatively subjective, then we'd need to add clarifications into the layout guides telling people not to include Gallifreyan/Time Lord (The Doctor) and his companion species, as they wouldn't count (or would they?), very likely people would add them.
 * Lists are just lists, they only catch the eye by being long, the articles are there for their content. --Tangerineduel 15:45, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Series 5 Episode Titles
Those are from the February 2010 issue of DWM.

Your move of Series 5 (Doctor Who)
Dude, you asked a question in the Howling so as to invite comment about whether it would be okay to move Series 5 to Season 31. Then you immediately went and did it, without waiting for even a single answer to that question. It is extraordinarily premature to move the article. One Moffat interview doesn't constitute proof. Next time, if you start a conversation, wait for it to happen before taking action. It's called consensus building, one of the fundamental guidelines of wiki construction.  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍  21:49, February 4, 2010 (UTC)