Talk:The Master (The TV Movie)

Rename
I think we should rename this page to 'The "Bruce" Master', in reference to the body who this iteration of the Master inhabits. This would be consistent with how we tend to name other stolen body Masters.

Alternatively, we could call them 'The Lost Master', since the first Master boxset refers to him as "the Master's lost incarnation" in it's description.

Alternatively, Alternatively, we could call him 'The Movie Master', which is the name Big Finish refer to him as in the behind the scenes of Masterful.

Personally, I'd go for the first option for consistency with the proposed Tremas Master rename, but I'm fine with anything, as long as it's not UnBruce. TheSpaghetOutcast ☎  09:24, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I think the Bruce Master is the best and most intuitive option. Unlike with the Fugitive Doctor, who is a fugitive, there's no in-universe justification for Roberts being the Movie Master and I'm definitely against the Lost Master. Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon ☎  10:11, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I propose moving him to The UnBruce. This was the first name officially given to this incarnation, way back in 1996. While "Bruce Master" isn't terrible, it's ultimately a fanon name created by clumsily sticking two words together; "The UnBruce", on the other hand, is not only official and 26+ years old, it's also a striking, artfully constructed name that really captures the unheimlich quality of Roberts's character and the way his two performances relate to one another - unlike Ainley's Master, who is rejuvenated and sprightly compared to Tremas, Roberts's Master really does come across as a walking corpse, an uncanny not-Bruce. The name was little-known until recently, but digging up and publicising rare information from official sources is exactly what a wiki like this should be doing. Someone may object to this name on the grounds that it doesn't contain the word "Master", but I really don't see why that should pose a problem; we can just call him "The Master" in articles where he's the only Master mentioned, and "The UnBruce" in articles which discuss multiple Masters. It would be a massive overstep for the wiki to insist on a fandom-made name when an official one is available. PintlessMan ☎  11:03, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * What's the source? BananaClownMan ☎  11:08, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * The page's behind the scenes section says, "The Eric Roberts Master was the first Master to be given an official incarnation-specific name, with the film's soundtrack release referring to him as 'The UnBruce'." Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon ☎  11:10, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Oh god, no, not this again. No, we're not renaming the page to UnBruce. TheSpaghetOutcast ☎  11:14, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * That BTS comment should be reworded more neutrally. I am not at all convinced that 'The UnBruce' is intended to be a name for the character in general, rather than a sort of "chapter title" for the specific scene the musical cue illustrates. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 11:30, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Agreed. I'm against The UnBruce for just that reason. Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon ☎  11:34, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm also against "The UnBruce" but wouldn't oppose "The Bruce Master". FractalDoctor ☎  11:44, 12 January 2023 (UTC)