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Bwburke94 wrote: The "all nine of me" line and comparison to a cat's nine lives are both in-universe material. The former is as direct a confirmation as we'd get on any Time Lord without them directly stating their incarnation; the latter line further indicates that the former was not referring to a previous incarnation.

And therein lies the problem. If Shalka is valid, this Doctor is unambiguously the Ninth, but the readers of this wiki as a whole would expect "Ninth Doctor" to refer solely to the Doctor played by Christopher Eccleston. The thing is that "all of my nine lives" makes no sense at all, because a Time Lord regeneration cycle has thirteen incarnations. Perhaps he's just being poetic. And the Warhol remark seems rather off-the-cuff ("Lovely man, wanted to paint all nine of me").