User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-6032121-20181230112657/@comment-6032121-20181230143600

That was quick, thanks.

Concerning the Sonic Screwdriver's teleportation: it's hard to say whether the Sonic has ever displayed such an ability before, but it's definitely displayed a propensity to have whatever abilities the writers or designers think will be cool as the plot demands. I don't think teleporting itself ahead of the TARDIS is much more unlikely from containing a pen or allowing someone to see every football match ever. In short, if FTDYL is otherwise found valid I don't see what would be wrong with accounting for this ability, just as we would account for its ability to relight a dying fire.

(Note how Twas the Night established that Santa Claus can apparently drive the TARDIS, which, unless the webcast means to imply that Kris Kringle is a renegade Time Lord, strikes me as no more or less "continuity-breaking" a revelation.)

Concerning whether it's a story: I have seen nothing to contradict the concept that we are watching a succession of events happening in the room over the course of an evening. Of course, having watched the thing in its intended format of having it on while doing something else on the side, I may have missed some logic-breaking happenstance. If T'zim Shah materializes wearing a tutu, winks at the camera, and goes away in a puff of smoke, or something, I take it back. But until such an incident is found my mind remains unchanged on this point.

Concerning last year's Twelfth Doctor one: I haven't watched it yet, but I see that a link to it has been added on the Festive Thirteenth Doctor Yule Log page has been added, and even if it is found invalid (it should probably have its own inclusion debate, shouldn't it? the one could be valid and the other not, or vice-versa) I do think it's deserving of a page.

Concerning those zipping-around-with-regeneration-energy thingies: they're obviously hella invalid, but since as it turns out they were more like TV spots of their own, rather than mashups of footage from the series itself, shouldn't they get their own page in the same way that Blue Peter special 2005 (another pre-proper-Series-debut bit of invalid fluff featuring the new Doctor) did?

(Oh, and a post-scriptum: A, there’s no such thing as having too many Doctor Who stories; B, whether we'd like something to be a story or not shouldn't impact objective reasoning in either direction; C, in terms of wanting this story in particular to be valid, I admit to being somewhat partial here not because of a general "I want more stories!" but because, while this is too speculative for the Wiki, it seems overwhelmingly likely to me that the room is the Doctor's old house on Gallifrey, and you don't get a story with the Thirteenth Doctor on Gallifrey every day. Though again, my personal feelings shouldn't matter here.)