User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Tales from the Tardis/@comment-188432-20140327234318/@comment-188.102.246.124-20140329201338

Oh, this is actually a difficult question. Plot-wise it's a tie I think because both of them "only" saved the Doctor while Donna for example saved the whole of creation and all of the universes. On the other hand, without the Doctor she wouldn't have been able to do so as she wouldn't have been able to cause the Meta-Crisis (let alone that she wouldn't have been on the Crucible in the first place), and the Doctor in turn wouldn't have been there without Rose and Clara. So in the end all three women played their part in saving the universes.

Without Rose, the events we saw unfolding wouldn't have happened - Donna's timeline wouldn't have been repaired, it could have been the Silence would have never entered the Doctor's time stream like this and he wouldn't have met Clara. Without Clara the Silence would have altered his timeline/ killed him. So honestly? I think they depend on each other and I just cannot say who's more important of the two. So I have to go for pure personal reasons and that means voting for Rose because I just can't get to terms with Clara. She's too perfect and too suddenly introduced as the one companion who doesn't only save one incarnation, no, but all of them. And it's like suddenly she's even the reason why the Doctor chose this TARDIS and it was all just a bit much for my liking. Also, her deeds have basically been erased since the Doctor managed to not die that day and thus prevented the Silence from entering his time stream, thus kept Clara from entering it as well which means no more thousands of copies of her and no more heroic saving all of his past lives... Anyway, I am keeping my hopes up for S8 and that she'll become a more well-rounded and realistic character than she was in S7. :)

One last thing to mention: I read that often that people say Rose indirectly or even directly forced the Doctor to waste a regeneration and I just don't understand how that should be the case. Without her he would have died on the Game Station. As in once and for all. He would have let the Daleks kill him. No more Doctor. But Rose saved him and it was his choice alone to sacrifice this incarnation for her. He could have just let her burn, accept her choice like he accepted Jack's choice to face the Daleks. But he didn't. That's the thing. Also, Rose never asked him to save her, she would have died for him just like the various Clara's died for him (so again, it's a tie in my eyes between them). Just wanted to point that out. :)