Talk:Ursino Six

"Planet of Pandas"
The fact that Panda speculated that he came from a "Planet of Pandas" has absolutely no relation to this planet of Teddy Bears that was introduced in a story seven years later. If one day the two are confirmed to be the same place then it can be included, but this is pure supposition at present. RadMatter ☎  21:48, 16 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Okay, let's examine the evidence.
 * In PROSE: Enter Wildthyme, during a barney between Iris Wildthyme and Panda about Panda's origins, it is brought up that Panda could've originated from a "whole planet of Pandas", with Panda speculating where he came from "everybody is ten inches high with small black ears and piercingly intelligent button-bright eyes" - though Iris doesn't place much faith in this.
 * In PROSE: Teddy Sparkles Must Die!, it is revealed that such a planet exists, a "Planet of the Bears". Bear (pun not intended) in mind that these bears are stuffed animals, not actual bears.
 * So, how does this connect?
 * Firstly, pandas are bears. Despite Panda's indignant claims.
 * Secondly, we see that in PROSE: Teddy Sparkles Must Die! the titular Teddy Sparkles is remarkably like Panda, with the same speech patterns, (loud, booming voice, etc, etc) both are stuffed animals, both are the same-ish height. The point is, is that it is very clear that Magrs has taken this reference in PROSE: Enter Wildthyme, and significantly expanded upon it in PROSE: Teddy Sparkles Must Die!. This ties into Panda's belief that there could be a whole planet of individuals like him.
 * So the fact that these are on the same page is not speculation, as this is far too specific to be a coincidence, and that with the evidence provided we surely do not need additional confirmation about something that likely never will be brought up again.
 * The only issue I see here is that Panda does not have the abilities of a reality-engineer, however the point is made in PROSE: Teddy Sparkles Must Die! is that Teddy Sparkles's powers actually waned over the course of forty-odd years he had spent trapped in an attic. Who is to say that a similar fate didn't befall Panda? It is worth noting that in AUDIO: Wildthyme at Large, Panda does mention that he had had many adventures before setting down with Tom, so there is room for Panda's powers dissipating. 📯 📂 01:17, 17 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Also, please can you refrain from referring to the contentious information as false? As you see, it certainly is not; it is only disputed. The claim that both I, and @TheChampionOfTime, (the editor who first brought to light the information over on Panda) have inserted false information feels rather... like an attack of sorts, though I doubt you meant it as such. 📯 📂 01:37, 17 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Firstly, it is not a personal attack to call out false information on an article. It would be a personal attack if I was suggesting that you had inserted false information with intent, but I do not believe that this is the case.


 * As you have said yourself in Enter Wildthyme Panda speculates as to where he is from. He does not know that the "whole planet of Pandas" exists and he certainly does not know about Ursino Six. He is purely speculating. Then when Ursino Six is introduced seven years later it is not even in a story related to Panda and the things that Panda speculated about his homeworld aren't true to Ursino Six. For example; Panda suggested that the whole would be full of Pandas, this simply isn't true as other types of bears exist on Ursino Six, then Panda speculated that all inhabitants would have "small black ears"... again this is untrue to Ursino Six as the only character confirmed to come from that planet - Teddy Sparkles - has never been depicted with black ears in all of his appearances.


 * To conclude; Panda's speculation that he came from a world that he doesn't even know exists is not enough to tie him to Ursino Six. RadMatter ☎  08:02, 17 July 2021 (UTC)


 * That being said, let's say, in a random novel, a companion or an amnesiac Doctor speculates that the Doctor came from "a big orange planet" with other such roguish time travellers.
 * We would surely identify that as Gallifrey, would we not? Even if Gallifrey isn't really filled with rogues.
 * Even if the character unintentionally identifies the planet, they still identify it one way or another, do they not?


 * But like I said, pandas are a type of bear. As in PROSE: Teddy Sparkles Must Die!, mentions that the planet is a "Planet of the Bears" - this is a broad generalization. Pandas are likely among the array of denizens of the planet.  📯 📂 12:16, 17 July 2021 (UTC)