Theory talk:Timeline - Seventh Doctor

post 2005 short trips/DWM Comics
In the previous conversation the placement of these things was never resolved. So I am creating a new thread. My Evidence and arguments Short trips I think the post 2005 short trips should go after the PDAs because of release order.

DWM Comics These should be placed where the author intended except where contradictions are evident (The first 4 post survival ones need to take place shortly after survival instead of where the author intended. Tellymustard ☎  02:19, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Wait, if nobody disagrees with using the few years statement in atom bomb blues to place it later it should be post 2003 short trips instead of post 2005. Tellymustard ☎  02:36, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * During your exile, I experimented by restoring the timeline to its previous setting, after I read the archived discussion and it seemed to be that the majority where shifting towards the original line up, to see if a third party would edit the timelines to your proposed variation. No one did, so it seems that how it currently is is the favored version by the majority, so renewing the discussion seems unneeded.BananaClownMan ☎  10:07, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Just to note, I don't care about the timeline pages, I was simply restoring them because the issue didn't appear to be resolved as a third party. Y'all do whatever. Najawin ☎  17:27, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Other issues with the timeline.
Disregarding the back and forth over placement of specific novels and short stories that take place in the vicinity of Survival, there are other glaring issues with the timeline.. As it currently stands, it blatantly disregards Stripped for action? and ignores that a chunk of the DWM comics are set during a period after Paradise Towers where the Doctor and Mel temporarily part ways, per the article's own internal chronology.. Additionally, the post-Lungbarrow section of this timeline page is a complete mess. It has the TARDIS interior arbitrarily changing back and forth between the white console room and Victorian parlour design, authorial intent that the Klein arc is set after Kingdom of Silver is completely ignored, and The Sirens of Time is placed late in the Seventh Doctor's life despite the audio adaptation of Cold Fusion having him explicitly begin to refer to its events as being in his past before the Fifth Doctor interrupts him to tell him that hasn't happened for him yet. There's lots of glaring issues with the post-Lungbarrow part of the page that are in urgent need of addressing, IMO. Pluto2 (talk) 18:33, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Someone needs to clean up the post-lungbarrow stuff, I mean ur a older user so I think u should have a good amount of influence. Tellymustard ☎  23:49, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

PS: but that is just my oppinion. About the post lungbarrow stuff, it is such a mess I think someone, probably u or sarahjanefan should create a sandbox for us all to edit and just entirely redo that part of the timeline. Like start by putting all the audios in order, then try to fit in the comics, then put the short stories where they fit.

Stripped for action is ignored because the fourth doctor section is inacurate, that conversation needs to be reopened though because that decision was made ages ago. Intertwining with the VNAs is another very similar problematic topic. I personally think we should follow these whereever no contradictions are present.

I also think we should make a list of how much influence each user should have ordered from most influence to least like this to make this orderly. 1. Sarahjanefan (counts as 2 people) 2. Pluto2 (counts as 1 person) 3. Bananaclownman (counts as 0.9 people) 4. Tellymustard (counts as 0.75 people) 5. IRegisteredforthetimelines (Counts as 0.75 people) 6. Any infrequent timeline editors should count as 0.5 people This would make voting and decision making much easier. Tellymustard ☎  00:06, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Stepping in as an admin to say that we won't be ranking people's votes in the way User:Tellymustard suggests. Given the huge number of people who write for DW and their complete disregard for not just other writers' continuity but also their own, there are going to be discrepancies and stories that can't be reasonably placed. Discussion among editors can hopefully resolve these, but there won't be any voting where some users count less than others. Incidentally this whole need for speculation on timelines is why we moved the timelines out of the wiki's main namespace. Shambala108 ☎  00:20, 17 December 2022 (UTC)


 * K, I am sorry. I didnt know that I was violating the wiki's policies. Tellymustard ☎  00:49, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

I created a sandbox for anyone to edit for the purpose of reorganising the post-lungbarrow timeline. I placed all of the obvious stuff where it belongs so far. https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/User:Tellymustard/sandbox2 Tellymustard ☎  21:24, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

DWM Placement
I thought it would be best to have the post lungbarrow stuff and the DWM stuff in different sections. So this section is for discussing if stripped for action and intertwining with the VNA's should be considered valid to this timeline (That is the best way I can word it sorry if the use of the word valid is confusing). I agree with Pluto2 and fully support using both of these except where in-narrative contradictions are present. Tellymustard ☎  21:53, 17 December 2022 (UTC)