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User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-6433721-20130324051043/@comment-188432-20130331173058 Well when I wrote the above I had forgotten that this part of the story is narratively set in 2012. So while I would argue that it is possible that the trees could possibly be in bloom with a particularly warm winter, that may not have been the case in 2012. (Though I gather it was, unlike this year, a warm winter on the east coast in 2012.)

So we're left with a number of possibilities, all involving speculation. Either:
 * Amy has an out of date newspaper
 * The Superbowl is contested at a different time from the Super Bowl™
 * In the DWU's 2012, spring came about a month or so early
 * None of the above is true, and it's just a production error

Normally, it's pretty easy to see which is the right way forward, but this one has a lot of moving parts because we're literally going off one scrap of a newspaper.

Hold on a minute. The whole thing is an alternate reality, right? We know the Giants win the real 2012 Super Bowl. But Rory and Amy collapse the timeline in which the Lions win. So maybe that means we go back to the Giants. But then the Doctor says he can never go back to New York after the timeline is collapsed. But he does go back to get the last page of the book. And it's spring there. So is he back at the "wrong" 2012 or the new one? Why does he need to go back to that spot to get the page anyway? Why doesn't he just get any other copy of the book?

Argh, this episode makes my head hurt. I think we're going to need some other voices here, because this one situation seems to defy the usual logic we apply in these situations.