Howling:The End of Time

Iv'e been looking through pics from filming of the end of time and found a rather interesting one showing a pile of bricks and a sign saying HM Prison Broadfell (found these at ). If theres a prison break, the only person i know of that could podssibly be in prison is Lucy Saxon, because on the torchwood missions website there is a mission report about what happened to the torchwood team during the events of the sound of drums/last of the timelords. And after they returned to cardiff they found out that Harold Saxon had been shot dead by his wife, if this is common knowledge in the world of doctor who then she was arrested and sent to prison). Which means it wasn't Lucy Saxon who oicked up the masters ring at the end of the last of the timelords. Also on the website it has a picture of Capt. Jack, and John Simm said (while he was on radio 2 on saturday) that John Barrowman WAS around but he didn't have any scenes with him. If Jack is back on Earth it means another series of Torchwood! Also Donna was sighted down an alleyway walking with the Master who was apparently wearing a human mask with grey hair. Donna is also getting married again, not flashback because she is wearing a different dress. Saxon 3 16:01, September 27, 2009 (UTC)Also Rose is appearing again but not in a full on appearance,The Doctor travels back to 2004(New years eve) and Rose is walking with her mum, Jackie walks in opposite direction and Rose walks toward the doctor - he asks what year it is she answers 2005 (just turned midnight so is 2005), the doctor says shes going to have a really good year (meeting the 9th doctor). The Doctor looks like he's in pain, another picture of the same setting, shows him on his hands and knees before Ood Sigma. Also might Mr.copper (Voyage of the damned) have something to do with the master seeing as his foundation funded the sub wave network. The sub wave network sounded a four beat beep when it was activated in the stolen earth. Or maybe Harriot Jones was involved, it's possible that she picked up the ring, and the master is the person who really designed the sub wave network. We didn't actually see her get killed in the stolen earth, we only heard the Dalek go exterminate and the screen go blank. They showed loads of people getting killed by the daleks, why would they exclude Harriot Jones? Also i found out that there wasnt a character present picking up the masters ring, it was some one from the crew, and if you look again at the hand picking up the ring you'll find that it's much too old to be the hand of Lucy Saxon, wich again points out that Harriot picked up the ring. Maybe she had been following the doctor, went to investigate what he was doing in the valley and was looking through the mess that was left and picked up the ring not knowing what or whose it really was, plus she would still have contact with people in politics and could have easily arranged a meeting with lucy saxon while she was in prison. Also whenever Wilf has got a hat on its always a red one with a badge with wings on, and he has army skills and saluted to the doctor at the end of journeys end, and he has an interest in space. Saxon 3 15:50, September 28, 2009 (UTC) Have noticed that in series 4 whenever donna was near the doctor (or his hand concerning the metacrisis)her ring started to flash! There is evidence that the hand who picked up the masters ring is donna's but there is also evidence to suggest it might have been Harriet aswell. Also numerous times in series 4 the sound of drums were heard, for instance in the unicorn and the wasp the old gramophone (or whatever it was that was emitting the music) kept playing the sound of drums in the background, and in the stolen earth when the sub wave network turned on the laptops/computers it came on with the sound of drums.