Talk:Type I Dalek Emperor (Liberation of the Daleks)

Proposed merge
I don't think this page should be merged with the physicalspace Specimen. The psychoplasm Daleks' characterisation makes it clear they have their own selfhood even if they're in some sense running on the mutants' brains; compare the Dream Lord. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 10:03, 19 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I disagree. It's mention throughout the comic that the psychoplasm Daleks' are avatars for the physical-space Specimens, such as when the Red Supreme gets a glimpse of the Doctor through the eyes of the Kaled mutant in the real world, or how the Specimens are used as leverage against them to stop them killing hostages in exchange for them not being damaged through the Specimens. The biggest factor, however, is how they are used as an allegory for sleeping and dreams; when the Red Supreme dissolves, the Doctor makes mote of the mental toll it will have on the Kaled mutant and the Golden Emperor exploding puts its Kaled mutant in a coma. In essence, the comparison is more like a player and their video game character than two distinct individuals sharing a brain pattern like the Doctor and the Dream Lord. BananaClownMan ☎  10:25, 19 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Okay, but again, the Dream Lord is just a figment in the Eleventh Doctor and Ponds' shared dream. Honestly, it's not clear that he's even sentient. People want him to be a psychic extrusion like some takes on the Valeyard, but Amy's Choice never says that. I think it's clear that the Type I Emperor and Golden Emperor don't have any conscious memories of the mutant's lives, so I don't think the video game comparison works: they have, as I said, a personality, a history, a mental selfhood of their own, even if they're running on the same meat. (Compare the Timeless Child or Other vs. the Doctor.) Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 10:35, 19 November 2023 (UTC)