Howling:666

A lot of fan speculation (including on this forum) pointed out all of the occurrences of 666 throughout the last year, arguing that it was an arc word (like Bad Wolf or Vote Saxon), and therefore a major hint to the finale.

And yet, in the finale, there was no Beast. While the Doctor did have a line about how opening the time lock would bring "Hell on Earth, literally" or something like that, the enemies were Rassilon and his council, who have little or nothing to do with the Beast.

But now I'm curious, what were all those 666 references about? Was it just overzealous fans looking too hard? Or RT playing with the fans by giving them false hints? Or a bona fide clue to some secret meaning in the finale that we all missed? Or setup for Moffat, or for RTD's upcoming series of Torchwood? --99.8.229.156 11:19, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

I am fairly sure it's just overzealous fans looking too hard. Zach Schmidt 18:09, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

You mean, the last five years. Every single season has mentioned the number, and Torchwood mentioned the number. It was in The Christmas Invasion, The Impossiblle Planet, Doomsday, very vaugely in The Last of the Time Lords, Voyage of the Damned, Midnight, The Stolen Earth, and Planet of the Dead. It was also in an episode of Torchwood series 1.

Both my friends, random people, and stepdad, pointed out as the series went on, "Why do I keep hearing the Devil's number in Docvtor Who and Torchwood?" It wasn't the last year- the last five years have had the number. From series 1 to Planet of the Dead, the number 666 keeps coming up.

In The End of Time, there was a church scene that mentioned how a demon came to Earth long ago. The chruch dipicted God (who has been mentioned by the Beast), and that was the Beast's intention- he is a demon, and wanted to attack Earth from the skies (space).

But the thing about the number is, it's not just there- it's hidden in every a majoruty of the time. Someone who has close connections to people who get leaked info on what the producers are palnning way ahead mentioned, "Ever wonder why the Beast's number has been showing up many times since the the revival?"

It's what one would call a super-hidden plot device spanning seasons upon seasons. Bad Wold spanned series 1, 2, 3 and 4, Torchwood spanned series 2, stolen Planets spanned series 4, 666 spanned series 1 to the next series.

Bad Wolf appeared everywhere and spanned 4 entire series- everyone said it meant nothing, and it turned out to be a hidden plot device. The same applies to 666. It has been hinted that it keeps appearing to span the entire series and head on until we finally reach a future finale whenever. Also, another reference was made in Children of Earth to the Beast. Delton Menace 02:46, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

^See what I mean? Just overzealous fans looking TOO hard. Zach Schmidt 02:53, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't have to look. I noticed like that. Everyone noticed the reference. Well, most fans noticed them. And as I said, it was highlighted that the number kept appearing, and directly hinted that it means something. You're one hell of an idiot. Bad Wolf spanned for seasons, not on thought it meant anything, no one through the stolen planets meant anything. It's always the same. Stop being a closed-minded idiot, and go to hell. People like you make me sick. Delton Menace 03:19, January 13, 2010 (UTC)