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Wales crew
Hello and welcome to our community! I assume you're the IP editor who requested some changes made to [[tl|Wales crew}} a few weeks back. I wanted to hold off making changes to it, because I rather suspect I'm going to have to make a ton of changes due to the differing styles necessary for Miracle Day.  I did want to assure you that it's on my radar to change, but I wanted to do a lot of changes at once, rather than nickle and diming it.  I also wanted to take some time to review the credits on UK transmission as opposed to those on US transmission of MIracle Day.

So my plan, at present, is this. I'm going to wait until the end of July. by that time, I'll have copies of a few episodes of Torchwood from both transmissions. I'll then be able to have a fairly representative slice of series 4 credits and be able to figure out a decent way to code the thing. I may well have to make a completely different template, anyway, because New World credits were pretty radically different than anything else so far.

Until a further announcement, please don't use wales crew on Miracle Day episodes. You may see me making an attempt to use it, but this is just for testing, and doesn't signal that it's okay to proceed generally with the template.

Thanks — and it's great to have another user dedicated to getting the credits right on our story pages! 00:44:41 Thu 14 Jul 2011
 * Cool. I don't want this to stop your work on other seasons of other series, though.  It's so awesome to have someone else who wants to do this work! Please just keep doing what you're doing.  When you run across a credit that doesn't yet exist as a variable, pick a variable name, assign the person to that new variable, and write the variable at template talk:Wales crew.  I promise I'll get to it.  And if you have any suggestions about how to make the thing work better, let me hear those too.   Thanks :)   00:58:01 Thu 14 Jul 2011


 * Yep, not only are your new variables in, I've begun the process of Miracle Day-ing the template. You'll find that the latest episode, Dead of Night, has the MD version of Wales crew already installed.  You may certainly feel free to populate the form with the credits after 2300 EST today.  I haven't quite worked out all the formatting, but that doesn't matter.  I've filled out the details on The New World, but haven't quite gotten to Rendition just yet.  Important thing at this stage is simply to have the data in the form; I'll be tweaking things this weekend to get it all displaying properly.  The blank form is in a special Miracle Day section over at Wales crew.  Please note that I have detected very slight differences between the Starz and BBC One versions' credits on ep 1, thought I'm not sure that'll necessarily be the case in other episodes.  Still, it'd be helpful to me if, when you're filling in things, you noted which version your info comes from, so that I know that I need to verify it against the other'' version.


 * Thanks, as always, for your help with this stuff.


 * Oh, you may have noticed that I took some of the rigid column structure away from the top box. This should help SJA and TW pages, which don't necessarily have all 12 main credits, to have "neater" headline credits.  I'm still going to be playing around with the basic formatting, because honestly it all's looking a bit tired.  But, anyway, for the moment, I hope you'll find it's improved a bit for non-DW episodes.   22:51:41 Fri 22 Jul 2011


 * Yeah, you're prolly gonna find glitches from time to time over the next few days. It's mindnumbingly painstaking work, and sometimes I "drop a stitch", as it were.  Oh, and minor thing, but could you please put a link to this talk page in your signature?  It helps with communication — and it's da law. :)  23:13:03 Fri 22 Jul 2011
 * Okay, I think the template has now been fixed to handle Miracle Day. I left you Rendition (TV story) to try the new template on.  Just remember to cut and paste the T:MD form from Wales crew, and you should find that it'll take you at most five minutes to enter the variables.  There is one remaining problem that I see, and it's that the "costume" section appears as empty.  This is because headings are turned off or on on the basis of either the page name or by testing to see whether a variable that always appears in that section is present.  The costume department it weird, because there is no single credit which has always appeared in all three programmes, so there's nothing to test for.  I think ultimately I'll just have to test for the ten episode names, but my mind's a li'l tired of looking at this very detailed coding.


 * Point is, it's ready for use with MD, and it should be working better with other series. Let me know if you notice problems with it.   00:24:46 Tue 26 Jul 2011

Forum:Story pages should have reception sections
The above-named forum thread got additional formatting after you posted your thoughts. I wasn't quite clear which of the two sections best represented your views. Please return to the thread to confirm that your thoughs are under the appropriate heading. Thanks. :) 15:27:42 Fri 15 Jul 2011

Tooth and Claw
So there's a couple hundred links to Tooth and Claw. Are we certain these should all be moved to Tooth and Claw (TV story)? 13:55:30 Sat 23 Jul 2011
 * You misunderstand my question. Obviously our disambiguation policy calls for the move.  I've been kinda waiting to see how long it would take someone to notice.  It's kinda amused me that no one has noticed, and yet we've had fierce battles of The End of Time, a much later story.  (The answer, by the way, is: five years, three months).  The question I had for you is whether anyone involved here — you, Mini-mitch or Skittles — has actually checked the list of links to Tooth and Claw to verify that they all are meant to be links to the TV episode.  The bot can take care of the re-linking in a matter of minutes, but it can't contextualise anything.  It has no idea whether a particular link is meant to be for the comic strip or the TV story.  So what's needed here is for someone to just check to make sure that anything currently linking to Tooth and Claw is meant to be pointing towards the TV story.  Once that's verified, the actual changeover is a snap.   14:15:29 Sat 23 Jul 2011
 * (Oh, and thanks for making an attempt to comply with tardis:signature policy, but you're not quite there yet. There must be a link both to user:Tybort and user talk:Tybort in your sig.)
 * Hey, I notice you're hand-editing link moves to Tooth and Claw (TV story). You know you don't have to do that, right?  All I'm looking for is that you or Skittles or Mini-Mitch or someone verifies that each one of the links to Tooth and Claw is meant to be to the TV story.  Once that happens, it's a matter of minutes before everything gets changed over.  It's kind of a waste of your time to physically make the changes to Tooth and Claw (TV story) yourself.   17:40:36 Sat 23 Jul 2011
 * Okay. Well, I don't have time today to look at each and every link to make sure it's liking to the TV Story.  So I'm going off Skittles the hog's word that it's okay to proceed with the bot.  The bot is therefore running.  Pleas do not hand-edit any Tooth and Claw links for the rest of the day, just to be on the safe side.   19:32:37 Sat 23 Jul 2011

Changeover complete. There were like 6 highly random serials which claimed a link to Tooth and Claw, but when I went to the page and actually did a search for the word "tooth" in edit mode, I came up with nothing. So I have no idea what the link is. Maybe it's a template, but damned if I know what the link is between The Mysterious Planet, The Invasion of Time and Tooth and Claw. The page [[Tooth and Claw has now been deleted, as we need 3 pages for a disambig, and because keeping it around will only encourage more improper linkage.  In a day or so, when the MediaWiki software clears its cache and "catches up", the two Tooth and Claws, and only those two, will present themselves on autosuggest, and people will start to "get" how to link to these stories.  23:43:50 Sat 23 Jul 2011