User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon

Definite articles
I don't think there's a formal policy. On the whole, I believe the precedent is to default to using it for individuals who go by a title the way "the Doctor" does, even if it's a multi-word title, but to only use it for objects/locations/etc. when it's a single-word designation rather than a multi-word phrase; hence The Machine but Crystal of Kronos. Indeed, note that the Vortex has long existed as a redirect for Time Vortex. The Guardians seem to be something of an exception to this rule, probably grandfathered-in from early days of the Wiki, and I wouldn't be opposed to the Black Guardian and the White Guardian; they should definitely exist as redirects at least.

Regarding the Scriptures, they're a bit of a special case A Bloody (And Public) Domaine is ambiguous about whether "The Dragon Scriptures" is the title of the work, or simply a designation. There's a difference between "the Dalek Chronicles" and "The Dalek Chronicles", you see? I decided that reproducing the formatting used in the book — i.e. including the "The" but not italicising — was the best way to reflect this ambiguity. The Scrolls of Gallifrey, meanwhile, are very much an external descriptor for an object. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 22:16, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Talk pages
Hi, while I can appreciate your effort to clear up vandalism by removing it at Talk:Face of Boe, it is against policy for users to remove other users' posts from any kind of talk or discussion page. In the future, please inform an admin if you think something like this needs to be taken care of thanks Shambala108 ☎  15:36, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Re: Peri
There never has been — not as a general rule. There was a specific stopgap ruling for very long pages (e.g. Doctors) whose pages were getting so long that they were lagging in people's browsers, but it is not meant to apply to all character pages; it never was. Three sentences per story is nowhere near enough in 99% of cases. And as of the subpages thread, in Doctors' (/etc.)'s cases, the thing to do is to transfer the full-length version of the biography to a /Biography subpage (while leaving the three-sentences-max version in place on the main page) — not delete it.

With that said, the Mindwarp section on Peri is unusually long. It could be cut down a little, certainly — or, as I said, moved to its own event page if necessary. But three sentences would be much too little, and the plot summary of the TV story fills a completely different function than a complete, clear, linear biography of the in-universe character; notice for example that the long version you'd deleted intersperses some additional details from the novelisation. That unified account of events drawing from multiple sources, focused on Peri, isn't something that the TV story's plot summary could provide. They're different things. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 23:18, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Oh, it'd be enough at a bare minimum; certainly you don't have to worry about rewriting other biographical elements if you've written them out yourself to about that level of detail. But more detail than the necessary minimum isn't necessarily bad, is what I'm trying to say. Having more than the essentials doesn't mean a section requires trimming. If someone's put in the extra effort to give additional details, generally, it's better to leave them in, even if they weren't truly missing from the page beforehand. You know? It's harmless.


 * An we are talking about what is, to some degree, the character's death here; it seems proper to me to give it more psychological depth and context than a random adventure. Those insights from the novelisation are, IMO, interesting; were the death to stick, some of these would be a TV companion's final thoughts, and I don't really see where else this fairly interesting information could be presented. Likewise I think e.g. the bit about her "sharing a final fond moment with Yrcanos before etc." is important to ‘ground’ the possible future where she marries him as something that doesn't come entirely out of left field.


 * I do, as I said, think the section as written is a little too long. But I find your proposed alternative much too spartan. The psychological insights etc. are useful, even if we don't need the full beat-by-beat. Six full paragraphs is too much, but this could easily support three without devolving into trivialities, to give you a ballpark of what I mean. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 23:38, 27 November 2023 (UTC)