Talk:Trickster's Brigade

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I understand from the episode the Brigade were the humans, like the Fortune Teller, who did the "tricking", rather than the name of the "time beetle"s species -- Capricorn 22:28, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * As far as I'm aware, you're not wrong. 04:26, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah I've watched the episode again, and it's just very ambiguous :( -- Capricorn 16:29, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Should The Trickster be included here?-- 21:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I've done some research:

Russell T Davies made some interesting comments concerning these issues in Doctor Who confidential:
 * he literaly says the creature is called a time beetle
 * he says the doctor "refers to it as being part of the Trickster's brigade"
 * he mentions that that line about the Trickster's brigade is meant specificaly as a reference to the Trickster.

While this info might not be canon, it gives interesting insight in what Davis intended/thinks about the issues

Jack's monster files also has a file on the Trickster brigade:
 * It notes that it is "a group of creatures known coloqualy as the Trickster's Brigade"
 * On the Trickster : "Is there a trickster? No one knows"
 * he notes that they are "maybe they are all different species. or maybe all the same; a giant beetle"

Given this info I'd say a connection with the trickster is not canon, but strongly implied. I'm not sure if "Time beetle" and "Trickster's brigade" should be different articles, but I'm inclined to say they should. any further thoughts would be appreciated - Capricorn 23:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Purpose
Well, considering what the fortune teller woman did, creating a world in which The Doctor is killed, it's seem ver much like what the Trickster told Sarah Jane: a world in which the doctor no longer exists, which just so happens to happen in Turn Left. Adding the fact that the name implies the Brigade is owned by someone called the "Trickster", it must be the same one from Whatever Happened to Sarah Jane?.

Personally, I feel reason to connect Bilis Manger to the Trickster's Brigade too, considering he is also shrouded in mysery, he "plays" with time just like the Trickster's Brigade does, and, like The Trickster, he "doesn't exist anywhere in time or space", he's just there.

Title: Proper Noun or Colloquialism?
Having listened to the dialogue again, I'm wondering whether the "Trickster's Brigade" is the name of an actual group (as the capitalisation of the article suggests) or whether it is simply a term the Doctor uses for a group loosly affiliated with the Trickster - and therefore synonamous with, for example, the Trickster's minions, the Trickster's henchmen, the Trickster's I'll-work-for-you-on-a-part-time-basis-team? (OK - last example was a little extreme, but you get the point I'm trying to make!) CommodoreFisher 15:20, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * good question. impossible to tell from context, I would say. just slap on the "conjectural" tag. (I think you will find that under "Templates". Link title
 * Huh? There's nothing conjectural about this.  The Doctor uses the term in Turn Left.  If that's "conjectural" then virtually every article on this wiki has a conjectural title. Plus, we see the term on screen, and hear Captain Jack use the term multiple times in CJMF: "Trickster's Brigade".  As CJMF is in-universe, and Turn Left certainly is, I'm removing the tag. I'll agree that there might be a question as to whether "Brigade" should be a proper noun, but that's a question of format, not appropriateness.   Czech Out   ☎ | ✍  02:27, 12 May 2009 (UTC)