User talk:Shambala108

No HTML in the body of articles
Please observe T:NO HTML Thanks very much for filling in the plot summary for the first episode of The Crusade. However, there was a technical fault to your editing. According to this report from the page history at The Crusade, you inserted a lot of raw HTML into The Crusade. Please do not do this. Thanks :) 18:24: Mon 31 Oct 2011


 * Ahh, so there was a pesky li'l intervening edit. Thanks for pointing that out!  Helped me uncover the source of a number of similar edits without having to laboriously check back through every edit history.  00:30: Tue 01 Nov 2011

22:44: Tue 20 Dec 2011

--Tangerineduel / talk 14:21, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Request
Can I make a request. One actor pages instead of putting DW can you write the show out in full, i.e
 * X actor played person in the Doctor Who story name of story.

Thanks.MM/ Want to talk? 02:02, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Colony in Space
I'm not seeing anything like you're describing. And there's nothing alarming in the page history. Please clear your cache, reload that page, and tell me if you're still experiencing problems with the page. Thanks :) 04:54: Fri 02 Mar 2012

Vanddalism and edit button
Your vandal has been dealt with, hopefully. He/She was using a number of different IP addresses, so hopefully I've implemented a range block that will effectively bar him/her.

I'm a little more concerned about the report you're giving about your edit button. Could you please describe the circumstances under which you're unable to use it?
 * What browser and version is giving you issues?
 * Is it only on user pages, or every page?
 * Is the drop down menu not working or is it the whole button? That is, are you only barred from looking at history and move, or does pressing the edit button do nothing?

Yours is the first report I've heard of this little loss of functionality, so I'm very eager to nip it in the bud before lots of users start having issues.

(As a short term solution, I suggest you install the skin changing button and edit in Monobook on those occasions when you need access to buttons you can't get to in Wikia. See Forum:Monobook users: please install this code for instructions.)

17:37: Sun 15 Apr 2012


 * Well, there's your problem. We don't support IE.  Please install Safari, Firefox,  or Chrome.  Our of curiosity, though, what's the exact version number of IE that you're using?  01:57: Mon 16 Apr 2012
 * Also, please make sure that you have cleared your cache. Work is ongoing with restyling the wiki, so you may not be looking at the most current version of the code.  Even so, you are strongly urged to abandon IE for a Mozilla or webkit browser.  As IE's position in the marketplace continues to dwindle — and it's currenly under 20% — we've felt increasingly confident in just abandoning support for it.  It's simply more trouble than it's worth trying to maintain its peculiarities. 02:16: Mon 16 Apr 2012

Thank you for the advice, I appreciate it. --Cyruptsaram talk to me 06:41, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Edits
Yes sorry about that. My computer can be very faulty sometimes and I can get chucked out of the edit page, so sometimes it takes 5 times to write a sentence.

I think when I made an edit on one page and then took it away is because I made a mistake. I though a piece of information wasn't visible on the page, but it actually was. --Cyruptsaram ☎  16:41, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

Is there a way of stopping it somehow? Have you done something to stop it before (as you'd probably believe, it's very frustrating, it takes 10 minutes to write a paragraph)? --Cyruptsaram ☎  17:00, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

Infobox only taking one actor
Just saw several of your recent edits. What you've said in the edit summary is not actually true. I've made an edit to the Second Doctor article to illustrate this. There are three actor fields, see Infobox Individual for more info. Thanks. --Tangerineduel / talk 15:32, August 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my mistake, read the edit summary too quickly. --Tangerineduel / talk 15:34, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Please use only, not appearances
When creating an infobox on the page of a person who has only one appearance, please use the variable, not. Thanks :) 04:29: Fri 24 Aug 2012

Documentary categorisation
Hey, please familiarise yourself with the subcategories Documentaries. All documentaries should go into one of the more specific categories there. There's no way you could have known this, of course, but the reason category:Doctor Who DVD documentaries was kept around was because this category was going to facilitate an editing track in the Game of Rassilon. Because of Wikia's protracted problems in trying fix the achievement badges, however, we've had to put all new tracks on hold. So this "mega" category is just sorta sittin' there doin' nothin' useful. Any category that has over about a hundred entries is little too big for a human to digest. So documentaries should be in more specific categories like Production spotlight documentaries, Writing spotlight documentaries, Real history spotlight documentaries and the like. 03:29: Tue 04 Sep 2012
 * Nah, you're not causing trouble at all. You're just pointing out things we need to explain better. Good thing I'm rewriting all the policies and tutorials at the moment. :)  There's a big new tutorial on categories coming soon.   03:36: Tue 04 Sep 2012
 * Here's a good list for you.

The useful categories for DVD documentaries are: category=documentaries shownamespace=false namespace=14 columns=3 03:50: Tue 04 Sep 2012

Publication --> Anthology
Hey, thanks for doing the switches, but if you're noticing a pattern, just let me know what the pattern is, and I can fire up the bot and do it in a flash. :) Also no need to type out that whole, long forum title in the summary.  It's not really from a forum decision.  It's actually just a part of the template instructions, directly stated at, so your edit summary doesn't have to be anything more than "upholding temp doc" or something equally brief.   03:27: Sat 08 Sep 2012
 * Kudos for finding a job for the bot then. Feel free to go on to more fun work.  Can you just give me a link or three for stories which are mistakenly using publication instead of anthology?  It'll help me make the bot coding a little more foolproof.   03:44: Sat 08 Sep 2012

Talking About
Thanks for reporting this issue. I've passed it on to the people at w:c:vstf, who will handle it from here. This will probably be resolved within 48 hours. In the meantime, please create your page offline so that it's ready for eventual uploading.

Alternately, I can suggest that you create it at a near title match that the spam filter will allow — maybe Talkin About Regeneration (documentary), and then we'll move it to the proper place once the phrase "Talking About" gets struck from the list. 01:56: Mon 17 Sep 2012
 * You can follow the case by clicking here. 01:59: Mon 17 Sep 2012
 * This is all clear now, and has been for some time. Any time you want to write start the article at Talking About Regeneration (documentary), you may.   03:26: Tue 02 Oct 2012

the Editor
Noticed your recent edit and got me thinking, would there be a way for us to incorporate something like Wikipedia:Template:lowercase title for pages like this? Like for example how De Moivre's formula displays a lowercase D. +Yc 04:35, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Eh well I think it would be cool if we could make the title reflect is as otherwise people may only look at the top or the first bolded word as a guide for whether or not to capitalize the definite article. +Yc 05:20, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for correcting my "Shoulder slats" edit on New Dalek Paradigm. I clearly wasn't thinking. Graske of the mandragora ☎  07:35, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

I was trying to add new stuff here, but every time I try to make this wiki expand, I'm told not to do it. I'm Admin at 2 other wikis, and have bee told by many people that I'm a great editor. I'm sorry if u don't like my ways and since I can't edit at free will, I might have to leave, sorry.

User:NancyDrew4ever

I'm sorry, yesterday was a bad day for me. Can I still add new categories though? It would help with the expansion of this wiki :)

User:NancyDrew4ever

Orphaned pages
Yep, one is enough to stop it from showing up in the Special:LonelyPages and yes you can remove when you fix up the links. Though if you can get more than one link to it that's better, but sometimes when I've been going through the LonleyPages I've only ever managed to get one link in.

Also I wanted to say great work throughout the wiki (and on the talk pages as well!). --Tangerineduel / talk 05:49, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

Well Done
Just wanted to drop by and saying well done of your work with the orphan pages. So, well done! You're doing a really good job, keep it up! MM/ Want to talk? 23:32, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Good work on the DVD documentaries but ...
... I just wanted to check that you intended to come back and fill in the infoboxes you've deliberately left blank. It's really important that the infoboxes get filled out on documentaries, as these infoboxes contain a lot of SMW goodness. If they're filled out properly, we can easily generate lists of who might have produced/directed various documentaries, who was the main interviewer, what documentaries are on which DVDs and the like. Please make sure you go back and fill in all that information. 04:40: Thu 15 Nov 2012

My edits are mostly obsessive compulsive ones. I tidy up the layout of the pages by adding lines of spaces in between lines of different "codes". Sorry, can't help it.

-rreg29

Temus
Yep, there's certainly a way to fix it :) Add .  Thanks for finding this one>  If you find any others, just add this tag.  My suspicion, now that you've found this one, is that if you looked at Special:WhatLinksHere/The Gallifrey Chronicles (illustrated guide), you'd probably find other articles that need to be deleted.   06:37: Wed 19 Dec 2012

DWM edits
Hi, thanks for correcting my edits on the DWM pages. I thought they were a mistake being in italic and changed to bold text as on previous and future magazine pages the comic book story titles were in bold as well. Rassilon ☎  19:04, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

My apologies. I meant to add the link, but I messed up and copy pasted the wrong part. After I saw what appeared, I was about to undo it, but you beat me to it. Hotshot70 ☎  05:31, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, could you help me with my mistakes? I was trying to earn badges with all my director pages. What am I doing wrong? Vulkanus13

Renaming pages
Thought I'd leave this note here rather than the construct page, as it's more general info than related to the editing of that article.

To rename any page that isn't move locked (all the story pages are move locked, but in general everything else can be moved/renamed).

On the article page click the triangle next to the edit button, a menu will drop down and "rename" is the third button down.

You'll then be taken to the MovePage page, type in the page's new title and leave a reason for doing so and leave the "rename associated talk page" box ticked so the talk page is moved along with the page. Also leave the "leave a redirect behind" unless you've already changed all the links to the page, then it can be unchecked. Then click rename page and the page will be renamed.

Also of note "rename" used to be called "move", it's only really noteworthy because while it's called rename (and that's what it does) it also moves the page history with it. Any questions please feel free to ask and I'll try to help. --Tangerineduel / talk 16:56, December 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey, glad I could help you. Once you chance all the links to a page you can put a on the redirect page and state there's no links. That way admins are alerted to a redirect page needing deletion and we won't have an empty redirect page sitting there. --Tangerineduel / talk 06:05, December 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I would only add here that this sort of thing is precisely why we have a bot. If there are fewer than 10 links to the old page name and you wanna waste a few minutes, sure go ahead a do a manual changeover of the links.  Otherwise, just put a move request on my page, and I'll take care of the move for you. (Tybort makes these requests all the time, so don't feel like you'd be placing a special burden on me.)  09:43: Tue 01 Jan 2013

Personal attack
You can if you want, if you are offended by it. However, it may also be worthwhile keeping it, to have proof of the personal attack if needs be. I have removed and kept personal attacks. The choice is down to you. MM/ Want to talk? 01:32, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Name
After almost 125 responses (!), the discussion over the wiki's imminent name change appears to be nearing conclusion. You have 24 hours to register your objections at Thread:117468. If you don't, the name will change to Tardis Data Core tomorrow. 23:01: Tue 08 Jan 2013

Shalin
Yeah, when Wikia, Inc. are having data center problems, and we start seeing the "I'm so sorry" message, unpredictable things happen. Happily Shalin was restored by deleting and then restoring it. I have successfully edited it twice, so I think it's good to go now. :) 04:38: Fri 18 Jan 2013
 * Your other page is fine now. If you ever need help with this again, and I'm not around, then just tell Tangerineduel, or whichever admin strikes your fancy, to delete the page and then immediately restore it.  04:59: Fri 18 Jan 2013
 * Well I should point out that it doesn't always work. But certainly the first line of defence is for us to try to shake it out ourselves.  If the delete-restore fails, then you have to get Wikia Staff involved.  05:05: Fri 18 Jan 2013

Apologies for my inattention
I'm sorry that I missed the personal attacks you were being forced to endure at Talk:Tenth Doctor. Obviously you didn't need me to defend you, but it's still one of my jobs to prevent the joint from sliding into a shouting match. Sorry that it took me a day to notice what was going on there. 01:28: Thu 24 Jan 2013

Supsension and Disbelief
Hey, my Czech senses tingled. Is the character in Suspension and Disbelief supposed to be Dušan, rather than Dusan? 02:50: Fri 25 Jan 2013
 * Cool :) Thanks for checking!  05:20: Fri 25 Jan 2013

Zaroff
Looks good. You're probably in a better place than me to re-write the article, as it's a favourite of yours. It just needed to be more like an individual pages; an introduction, biography and information. The page at the moment just seemed to have the plot in there rather than information zeroed in his character. Do whatever edits you think does justice to the page. You can remove the cleanup tag without checking with me, I have full confidence in your edits. I added the tag as much as a reminder to myself as an alert to others. One thing, if you can work in his famous quote that'd probably be good, if not in the body of the article I'm sure it can be noted in the Behind the scenes section. --Tangerineduel / talk 13:28, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure either. If you don't think the quote works don't put it in there. As I said, go ahead and post it to the article. It all looks good, but Menace isn't a story I've listened to a great many times, so I defer to your knowledge on this one. Thanks. --Tangerineduel / talk 13:14, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Image overrun in iPad wikia full site display
From what I've seen of the problems with the pictures, it mostly happens when a picture is pushed down by other graphic elements in the page, usually the infobox and the table of contents. I've been having a lot of luck from just moving the pictures in the text so that the elements don't interfere with each other. It's usually not difficult, and it means you won't see the problem in any browsers. --ComicBookGoddess ☎  04:38, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

Spoilers
Could you please be more specific with what you think offends spoiler policy at Big Finish Doctor Who audio stories and The Companion Chronicles? Just the names of future publications? If so, I suppose that is a kind of spoiler, and could see the rationale for the use of the tag. But these pages are "series pages", so the mere presence of names of future publications isn't a problem, really. 04:58: Tue 19 Mar 2013
 * Like I said, I can see the rationale for the use of the tag so feel free to deploy it.  But I'd be opposed to removing any of the content from the page, as it's consistent with what is typically allowed on a series page.


 * I suppose I gave up a little bit on trying to control the flow of information about audio plays, since Big Finish recently admitted they did not have exact release dates. That makes the normal tight control we have over television stories impossible with audio stories.


 * But I have no issue with your desire to put a spoiler tag on The Companion Chronicles, until 1 July 2014, and indefinitely on the other article.  05:10: Tue 19 Mar 2013

Admin
If nominated, would you accept the position of administrator? 05:13: Tue 19 Mar 2013
 * Any thoughts on this? It's okay to say no, but this is a good time to nominate a new admin, due to the fact that more people tend to return to the wiki while DW is in season. More people here means that the likelihood of a lively discussion is greater.   07:42: Thu 04 Apr 2013

Edit Summaries
Sorry, missed that one line when I read it. Also, is there a search that actually works on the help files?--ComicBookGoddess ☎  18:47, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, my phone's a ring (acting — there's the work of spell check) up lately. It crashed twice while writing this very message. Generally, anything in parentheses can be wholly disregarded. You can completely ignore it. However, if you're truly wondering, I was just commenting on the fact that I had to write it out four times until the spell check on my phone didn't "correct" infobox. I'm really not used to using my phone for editing...

Anyway, on topic, I know I technically shouldn't be including side notes in edit summaries, but I figured the brackets would warrant an ignore. Oh well... --SOTO ☎ 06:02, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

Personal attack?
I'm sorry if I somehow offended you, but I am positive that I did not call you ignorant. Or even imply it. In fact, the word 'ignorant' does not show up in the entire thread! I also know myself to be highly respective of others' opinions, so I'm entirely clueless as to where you thought I 'attacked' you. I mean, if I did so unintentionally and somehow still don't notice it, I apologise. But can you elaborate on how I "called you a name?" I'm truly curious. Thanks! --SOTO ☎ 19:24, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * My computer just deleted my very thoughtful message. :'-(
 * Anyway, I'll try to write it again: Now I understand. Sorry for the confusion — number one: I was actually referring to myself; number two: the only reason I wrote that part of the sentence in the second person was to generalise the statement, that it's always better to ask the community before implementing your own decision. I was simply explaining why I decided to carry out a vote, rather than just say that we're merging. Like I said, after the broadcast of Bells, we'll start a new discussion, but we need to pick one or the other first. I can understand how you'd misread that. I'll edit the message to make that more clear. --SOTO ☎ 19:42, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, I was saying that it would have been arrogant of me to just decide on my own that we're merging the articles, which is why I carried out the vote. I was willing to go either way; it was only crutial that one be chosen. Now that the community has decided to merge, in conjunction with wiki policy, only then can I say that we're merging, at least temporarily. --SOTO ☎ 19:50, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * :) Yes, even I've been called much worse in my short span here — I'm not the type to get offended, though. Anyway, I guess I'll just have to be even more careful with my wording in the future... --SOTO ☎ 23:28, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

Admin nomination
Sorry that I didn't see your first acceptance of the nomination. Thank you very much for agreeing to accept greater responsibilities, pending confirmation. Your nomination is now live at Tardis:User rights nominations, and will remain open for seven days.

It's a bit unclear how this will go. The last nomination we had failed due to an overwhelming lack of interest. Other nominations in the past have attracted a fair amount of positive and negative comment. I'm hoping, though, that since this nomination comes right in the middle of the season, more people will be attracted to it.

There's nothing really for you to "do" during the confirmation process except to wait to see what happens. If people ask you questions during the discussion, it's important that you answer them promptly. If people outright oppose you and give (reasonable) objections, it's equally important to address those concerns in the best way you see fit. This means that you have to keep checking back on your nomination page, because there's no way to give you an automatic alert.

Please don't start a new section on the nomination page as this will screw up the easy-to-use buttons that I've provided at Thread:126844.

In anticipation of the successful conclusion of your nominations, you may want to start paying more attention to the help files that are located at category:admin help. 22:17: Thu 04 Apr 2013

Suggested reading/viewing
Though we've still got a few days before the nomination officially closes, it looks like it's going pretty well. So I wanted to take a few moments to point you in the direction of some things you might want to read as and when you get time over the next week.
 * A guide to the way the Game of Rassilon (generically called Achievements on the rest of wiki) works
 * A video overview of what admin do by Sarah Manley, one of the lead Wikia Staff members.  41 minutes.
 * A 21-minute video about some of the wiki management tools available to you. I think you already know all this stuff, but maybe you can just skim it with your finger on the "fast forward" button.
 * A 45-minute introduction to templates. Like I said in the nomination, the only area of your wiki activity that concerns me is your apparent lack of interest in the template namespace.  So I'm thinking, perhaps wrongly, that you need to have them demystified. The thing is, a lot of our templates are admin-edit-only, so someone some day might come to you and ask you to correct an error, and you need to at least feel comfortable enough to make simple changes to templates.
 * community:VSTF, for an overview of what the Volunteer Spam Task Force is, and who are its members. It's good to know who the VSTF members are so that you don't get freaked out if you happen to notice them doing stuff in Special:Log.  Also, it's good to know user:sulfur, in particular, cause he kinda watches out for us, since he's a bureaucrat over at Memory Alpha. So if you happen to be here one night and I'm not here and the sun hasn't come up in Australia where Tangerineduel lives—and suddenly the place gets attacked—you can leave a message at user talk:sulfur or go to w:c:vstf or the emergency IRC hotline.  (Don't worry, though, we usually only have one really bad attack a year.)
 * community:Blog:Wikia Technical Updates, a page you'll want to bookmark. Sometimes, particularly on Wednesdays, the wiki suddenly "freaks out" because new code has been uploaded.  When things go wacky, you'll want to go to his page and read the latest tech update to see what's going on.  Of course, I usually do this and then post a message if anything particularly profound is going on, but I'm not always here right at the very moment things go crazy.  So don't feel like you'd be stepping on my toes to investigate a tech issue and post an initial explanation of the issue back here.

Well, that's enough for now. But provided your nomination continues to go well, I do want you to try to attend the 26th April webinar on template creation. Just so that you get a bit more on how templates work. It says you need to register, but I usually just walk into them at the last minute. If you can't attend (and it's at 10zm PST/5pm UTC on 26 April), then please make sure you go to community:Webinars a day or so later to pick up the video and watch it. 05:13: Sat 06 Apr 2013

Admin nomination questions
As CzechOut has mentioned it's a little unclear how this progresses. Mostly because in the past it's been a user requesting adminship rather than a nomination (although technically if you want to be an admin you nominate yourself, so it's never actually a request…except when it is, but it becomes a nomination).

I am usually the one to go through a user's contributions and work out their strengths and weaknesses. Which CzechOut has already done.

I am curious about one thing that CzechOut raised, your lack of edits in the File name space. It won't count against your nomination, as CzechOut has said there's other admins and other editors who are active in that namespace, but I am curious.

I also want to ask you is there anything you're curious about that falls outside of all the information CzechOut has given? Or even that falls within but isn't answered? --Tangerineduel / talk 15:21, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

Policy pages
Hey, almost every policy page should have a link to a forum discussion precedent, although I tend to disguise it by pipe trick for naturalistic English. If you encounter policy pages that don't have a link to the precedent, it probably means that the policy matter is technical, and therefore arises out of necessity rather than discussion, or because there's an error in the policy page. If you think the latter, please either add the precedent policy, if you're aware of it, or let me know so I can track it down. One of the big goals I've had around here is to make the work of the forums obviously relevant by showing how they lead directly to existing policy. 20:47: Thu 11 Apr 2013

Welcome - Admin
Welcome, you are now an admin here on the TARDIS Data Core. As I've said any questions about anything that CzechOut's detailed list doesn't cover, or anything actually feel free to ask me or any of the other admins. --Tangerineduel / talk 09:55, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Categorical
Nice catch! I couldn't even remember what I'd been trying to do there. :)ComicBookGoddess ☎  05:22, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Redirects
Ah, my mistake. Sorry, it's more of an OCD thing for me... plus I'm at work and incredibly bored :) TARDIStraveler ☎  16:21, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Categories
Understood. I caught on when I saw you had edited Kamelion in the Recent Activity bar and thought you were probably going to flag me down, so I stopped churning out more category edits. That's the most confusing element about categories. You have to keep going down the rabbit hole before you identify the right one, but when they all seem to umbrella over so many articles, it can be tricky for someone like me to double-check if they're accounted for.

Lately, I've been putting "Biologically-modified individuals" onto all pages about Time Lords who have regenerated. Then, I moved on to any individual who has had their body altered in some way, like the Cyber-Conversions or the Pyroviles turning them to stone. Thanks for the advice. I've been skating around several wikis but I've always had to rethink how each one works. --Thunderush ☎  04:43, April 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much! :D --Thunderush ☎  05:06, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * A category chapter is long overdue in the MOS, and it's now being prepared. The chapter is at T:CAT, and more pages in that chapter will be added throughout the day.  17:20: Tue 16 Apr 2013
 * No worries. Like I said, I should have done it long ago, anyway. Was there any particular categorical situation you wanted to see addressed by the MOS?  18:36: Tue 16 Apr 2013

Game of Rassilon
Do you have any thoughts on new Game of Rassilon tracks? Have you noticed any categories of pages that seem particularly ignored? You don't necessarily have to make the graphics associated with the GOR, but if you know of a good idea for a track or two, and can identify 8 phrases and pics that would work as badges, let me know! 04:16: Thu 18 Apr 2013

Moving redirects
Ahh, yes. It'll break something all right. You need to make sure you move all the current links to Face-Painter to Face-Painter (short story). Then and only then can you start to create links to Face-Painter the individual. If you just delete the redirect without first moving all the links, you'll end up with a mess that will be harder-than-necessary to untangle.

This kinda move, by the way, is exactly what is for. It's a completely uncontroversial move. So if you put on the page, and then go to T:SPEEDY, you'll see exactly how many links are left to be moved. Or you could just click here: Special:WhatLinksHere/Face-Painter. 01:55: Wed 24 Apr 2013

Keep an eye on User:Nevadabell please
I see you reverted one of Nevadabell's edits, well you'll need to keep an eye on him. He's trouble. I blocked him on Logopedia (for blanking an administrative template, the block notice, which the page creator had forgotten to protect), and he posted an abusive thread at RangerWiki pleading to be unblocked... which led to him getting blocked there too (not by me) for harassment.