User talk:Milar Kayne

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Thanks for becoming a member of the TARDIS crew! If you have any questions, see the Help pages, add a question to one of the Forums or ask on my talk page. CzechOut ☎  23:26, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

hi there
hi, i updated the howling theory about john hurt, can you understand it now? Just reply on my userpage like u did before, thanks. TheRealDoctor ☎  20:47, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

Re: your message on CzeckOut's page
Hi! Since you brought up my name in your post to CzechOut, and he is busy with wikia-wide things and doesn't visit this wiki as often as he used to, I thought I'd give you some input regarding your message (and he will probably get back to you at some point, but I don't know his schedule).

First, a disclaimer. I don't edit at or visit the Star Wars wiki, so anything I say about them is based on assumptions I've gotten from what I've heard.

Both the SW wiki and our wiki are huge wikis covering a ton of information. In order for the wikis to have any use, we need some guidelines. Lots of guidelines. To make matters difficult for multiple-wiki editors, different wikis have different rules. (And yes, I know that you are aware of what I'm saying, but I'm trying to make a point.) If we don't have policies, the wiki deteriorates into something not worth reading, much less working on. I don't know what SW is like, but here we tend to have a very busy time during the time DW airs. Therefore, we gets lots of new editors, most of whom break several policies in their enthusiasm to edit. It can get very frustrating to clean up so many edits in such a short time. When I message a user, I (and other admins) always try to be polite. However, when a user receives a message saying, in effect, your edit was wrong, I think some people take that personally and get offended. It's the nature of communicating this way. No one likes to be told they're wrong, and no one likes tons of rules thrown at them, but it's the only way to make sure users know the rules (especially if they choose not to read the policies that are posted on their user pages when they first contribute).

Rufus is a separate matter. I tried to be polite to him, but he came across as rude, insisting that our policies are wrong, and acting as though he didn't have to follow them. He actually admitted that he understood the spoiler policy but violated it anyway. He argued against many of our policies, which, of course, anyone can do, but they still must be followed until/unless changed. He has come across as argumentative in all of his posts, showing he has little interest in following our policies. In addition, he's had conflicts at other wikis. I don't think his case is a good example to use to prove your point.

In your message, you stated that you have read talk pages of users and admins. Just how many of my posts on other users' pages have you read? Because I post to other users quite a bit, and while I can sometimes get frustrated when I have to constantly remind the same user over and over again, in the main I try to be as polite as an impersonal medium allows. I don't know if you are aware of this, but admins don't get paid for this. It's volunteer work. And if you think the admins are rude here, you don't know how much worse the rudeness against the admins is. I'll admit I can try to be more patient with inexperienced users if you'll admit that it can be frustrating to have to clean up the same edits by the same users over and over. Deal? Shambala108 ☎  14:58, October 12, 2014 (UTC)