User talk:MrThermomanPreacher

Large spacing
Please do not add large amount of spacing in the articles. Thank You. --Bigshowbower 12:50, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Plot on novel pages
Hi, plot does not form a part of the layout of novel artuicles, see Tardis:Format for Novels.

Additionally, please do not copy summaries such as those on the Doctor Who Reference Guide onto this wiki, this is considered plagiarism. Thanks. --Tangerineduel 15:57, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Semi-protect
Adding the semi-protect (as you did when creating the Series 6 page) does nothing. The tag is just for illustration purposes for the articles that have semi-protection added to them (which needs to be done by admins). Thanks. --Tangerineduel 15:32, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Flutterbird
Hey, thanks for starting a new article on flutterbirds. It's great to have obscure info like that. But i notice you've cited a specific issue of DWA for that, which is a little vague. Are you saying it comes from a non-fiction prose article within the magazine, or that it comes from the comic strip? If it's the former, you should cite the article it comes from in a more formal way, like this:

and then at the bottom of the article, add:

My own Doctor Who Wiki
Hi, since I've been gone for a while, I've come back and made up a thought that I am going to create a Doctor Who Wiki about Series 5 and if you'd like to edit. Or if you don't want to, that's fine. I'll tell you once it's ready! --Trikster87 16:56, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

It's not copyright, it's my own and I'm offering you to come and edit but you don't have to. --Trikster87 17:37, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Template case
Hi, when creating template make sure everything (aside from names) is lower case. For instance 'Korven Stories' should be 'Korven stories'. I've moved the template to correct this. Thanks. --Tangerineduel 17:32, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Jixen Page
Don't revert pages unless you have a good reason. The original page was poorly written and didn't follow the manual of style. Specifically:
 * 1) It didn't use proper citations for episodes.
 * 2) The episodes use the same prefix, so there's no reason to repeat it in the infobox.
 * 3) The Life Cycle section is for species which have complex life cycles, like the Wirrn. If it's just a single line about lifespan, add it to the biology section.
 * 4) Speculation on the Jixen reoccurring isn't needed and saying they're the second "most major" isn't important (especially if the Korven and CCPCs are apparently both "most major").
 * 5) If there's no external links, don't add an external link section.
 * 6) The category:species is a vague super-category. If the Jixen fit in a sub-category (which they do), you don't add them to the Races and species category. -✍  15:45, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

The Pandorica Opens
Please stop adding in categories on the pages of those that did not appear. Weevils were seen and pictured on set, but did not appear on screen so are not listed as so. And the Slitheen were mentioned, not raxicorricofallapitorians. Thank-you. The Thirteenth Doctor 21:25, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Copying events
I've notice that with a few pages, you've just copied and pasted what happened to certain characters from one page to another, such as Churchill and Bracewell's pages. Please don't do this in future as each page should be written individually and not contain the exact same wordings of events. The Thirteenth Doctor 13:14, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Spoilers
Please don't add spoilers to main article pages as you did on the Eleventh Doctor's page. Even adding in the nav-bars for future appearances in SJA is considered spoilers, so please don't do so. Thank-you. The Thirteenth Doctor 12:54, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Tense
Thanks for sorting out the tense on the Richard Mace article. I made a mess.--Skittles the hog 21:09, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

You're Welcome. --MrThermomanPreacher 21:15, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

K9 TV series
Hey, how do you watch the K9 TV series. Is it online? Or are you able to watch it on TV? I'd like to watch it so I was wondering if there was any way to do so. The Thirteenth Doctor 09:55, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I watch it on Youtube, the first 21 episodes are on it and i expect the remainder will be uploaded soon. MrThermomanPreacher 09:58, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Categories
Hi, when creating categories please make sure they're lower case Category:Bounty Hunters should be Category:Bounty hunters. Thanks. --Tangerineduel 06:16, August 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just wondering why you removed the categories on the Doctor Who title cards page? --Tangerineduel 11:32, October 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * You didn't see comparison between your edit and the previous edit, there were no categories on the page, I've added the title card category and removed the ones I edited before. --Tangerineduel 12:05, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Headings
"Profile" is not a heading. Do not use it, substitute it with things like Biography, History, Biology etc.--Skittles the hog 13:44, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Battles in Time info
Thanks for updating the Battles in Time information with the new species that batled the Daleks, its proving an interesting read. Revanvolatrelundar 19:56, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Change to your user page
I just realized that I changed your user page by mistake. I was trying to categorize some pages that existed only in un-created categories, and your user page, for reasons I'm not quite sure, was in an uncreated cat called Infobox templates. I switched it for a couple that seemed appropriate to what was on the page. If you don't like this change, obviously feel free to revert. I'd revert it myself, but I'm not sure if you were genuinely trying to put your user page into a valid template cat or not. If you were, those two would be appropriate.  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍ 09:11, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi again. Yanno, I was actually wrong, above, to have put the page into "real" categories.  Turns out it's a violation of tardis:user page policy to put your user page in categories that make it appear as though it's a "real" article.  This includes putting your user page into categories for templates.  It makes it harder to do maintenance on the template categories if they include pages not in the template namespace.  Template categories are only for those pages in the template namespace — e.g. those pages that begin with template:.  User pages can only be intentionally categorized in categories that are relative to the user: namespace, such as Category:User en.  Sorry for the confusion.

Hi.
Just saying Hi, Mr.ThermomanPreacher. And by the way, it was me who said 'You are on both Primeval Wiki and Doctor Who Wiki' on the Primeval Wiki. From 90.215.45.50 17:42, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Sentence case
Please note all heading should be in sentence case. This is part of the MOS. Thanks. Mini-mitch 18:35, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Paradox Lost
Hey, just wanted to tell you why I deleted your work at Paradox Lost. This page has been created and deleted several times now, and it's never improved the quality of its info. The main rule it offends is tardis:spoiler policy, which holds that it's just too soon to put this article up yet. I know there are a lot of story pages here which don't have much more information. The difference here is that there can't be any information yet (because the story is months away from release), whereas other empty pages relate to stories long since published. The former we don't keep; the latter we do. This deletion in no way reflects upon you or your contributions, and is purely administrative. Please don't take it personally.

--Tangerineduel / talk 14:38, March 23, 2011 (UTC) 23:22:10 Fri 01 Apr 2011

Vandal.
I come from the Mass Effect wiki with a warning. Their was a vandal that originated from our wiki(as far as we know) and has done over 500 vandalism edits, he has also moved to atleast eight different wikis including the Call of duty wiki, World of warcraft wiki, and the L.A. Noire wiki. If you see a guy by the name of lancer or spithog98, thats probably him(just so you know this guy mimics other users, there is a real Lancer by the name of Lancer1289, you can contact him here for more information. I am going to stay here and help monitor this wiki until I can determin that he wont come here or he has been stoped.Legionwrex 23:06, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Avoid over-captialization
Hey, thanks for creating a whole flurry of articles lately. One thing, though. If you're creating an article about an unknown person, please take care to avoid over-capitalization. Take, for example, Delivery Man. "Man" isn't the guy's last name. It should be possible to link directly to the completely uncapitalized, ordinary noun delivery man. We shouldn't be forced to type delivery man just to be gramatically/stylistically correct. Yes, in cast listings we do want to reflect the typography we see on the screen. So if we see "Delivery Man" in the credits, we'd list in that way in our cast list. But the actual article itself would be "Delivery man". (Technically, too, people with ordinary titles should be "future-proofed" by adding disambig afterwards, like delivery man (Tardisode 7). That way, when another delivery man shows up in the credits of some future episode — and he will — we don't have to go back and unlink this one.)

Again, thanks for continuing to edit here, and if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. 18:17:59 Thu 19 May 2011

Mini-mitch\talk 17:41, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Images
Please ensure that you remove black borderlines when you upload images. Thanks Skittles the hog-- Talk 17:41, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Mini-mitch\talk 14:51, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Minimum standards for articles about production personnel
Heya :) Thanks for adding in new pages for behind-the-scenes personnel!  Coupla points, though.  All real world personnel articles must:
 * start with real world
 * contain an external link to their IMDB page (using imdb name), except for those very few people who don't have an IMDB page
 * contain NameSort, so that the page is automatically sorted by surname in categories
 * have a list of the specific episodes/serials they worked on. While a crew member's series is in transmission, as with Miracle Day, you may say that they "worked on ''Torchwood: Miracle Day", but you should leave behind TV crew stub to alert readers that the article is at a very early stage of development.

You may find it easier to use the preloadable formats, rather than building a page from scratch, because the preloadables have the minimum structure already in place.

To retrofit an IMDB listing onto a page without one, just use the imdb name template.

Thanks again for your efforts, and if you need additional help, please don't hesitate to ask. 16:04:38 Wed 27 Jul 2011
 * In your recent round of page creations for Escape to LA, I thank you for using real world and the especially valuable NameSort. However, I must again ask you to please take the 30 additional seconds necessary to include a link to the person's IMDb page with imdb name.  Also, if you're going to do no more than give a person's role in TW, please use TV cast stub or TV crew stub so that it's clear to other users which cast and crew articles need expansion.


 * As always, thanks for your continued edits here. 16:17:16 Sun 31 Jul 2011

Why create talk pages?
Why are you creating talk pages with nothing on them? --Tangerineduel / talk 13:12, August 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Because, it implies that because the talk page is active there's a discussion happening. Instead...there's nothing. The fact that a discussion page exists says to anyone looking that there's something that needs to be discussed. And if there is something that needs to be discussed, relating to all those templates the forum would be a better place to start a discussion relating to so many templates. --Tangerineduel / talk 13:21, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Past tense
Just a reminder, all pages, including timeline pages must be written in the past tense, see Tardis:Manual of Style. Thanks. --Tangerineduel / talk 14:48, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

MM/ Want to talk? 20:37, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

17:11:53 Mon 22 Aug 2011

City of the Damned characters
Thanks for adding pages for the City of the Damned characters. Could you do me a favour, though, and please move any which have simple adjectival names to Name (City of the Damned) — and don't leave a redirect behind. They're such ordinary, common words we don't want people accidentally linking to them. Chances are, they'll be linked nowhere but ZEPO and COTD pages. We don't want people getting a valid blue link and/or pulling up a page in a search by entering a common word or phrase. So, please move silly, mournful, humble, nervous, Slightly Angry, Very Angry, Need-to-Know, Will-to-Live and daft. Big Hate can remain un-disambiguated cause that's not really a common phrase. Thanks! 15:06:54 Fri 26 Aug 2011

EastEnders and all that
Hey, nice work with the Dimensions in Time pages, but could you go back and make sure the gender is correct in each of the "behind the scenes" notes as some of them currently say "he" on pages about females. Could you also add in-line references, so (TV: Dimensions in Time), at the end of the sentences. Thanks

MM/ Want to talk? 22:27, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

boron
I'm hiding in your toilets, waiting for your kids to take a crap and then see their vag/penis Bootervloot talk to me 17:47, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * This user has been blocked for a year because of this message. If you would like to remove it, and I could quite understand how you might, you have permission to do so,  user page policy notwithstanding. 14:48: Sun 16 Oct 2011

Timeline pages
Hey, thanks for your work starting new timeline pages. Please remember, though, that a year must actually be mentioned before you can start it. You can't start a year page if you have to qualify the existence of the year by saying "around " or "circa ", and leave it at that. We need a specific mention of a year, or a rationale based on solid calculation to start a year page.

For instance, if the story is definitely set in 4050 and a character named Jason Blah tells a tale of something that happened "twenty years ago", we can start an article for 4030 with the language, "According to Jason Blah, 4030 was the year in which ".

A particular danger with timeline pages is going to some other DW reference site, and using their dating without verifying how they got that year. A good rule of thumb is, if you don't have the book/episode/comic story in front of you, don't create a timeline page. DW timeline pages are notoriously subjective. Everyone wants to create the perfect DW timeline, and they'll do whatever it takes to try to make one with as many entries as possible. Frequently, this means that they've added some level of conjecture. We cannot accept someone else's word on the timeline. You can use one to trigger a bit of research — it's fine if another person's website sends you in the direction of a book — but it cannot be used as a sole sources, as a fan website is not a valid source.

I've deleted a few of your new page creations today. It would be really helpful to me if you could go to any year pages you may have created without reference to the primary source — or any pages that use the language "circa", "about" or "around" — and put the tag delete on it. Thanks :) 14:48: Sun 16 Oct 2011

An Isomorphic Question
Hello. I just wondered if anyone could answer my question on Doctor Who:

In the episode A Christmas Carol the Doctor said there was no such thing as Isomorphic controls, but in the episode The Sound of Drums he clearly saw the master use an Isomorphic Laser Screwdriver??

Can someone leave the answer on my Talk Page.

Oliver 18:17, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal blocked
The vandal who created that... unpleasantly named page has been blocked and the page has been deleted. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. --Revan\Talk 17:04, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Body part articles
Please stop creating articles about body parts for the time being. I've opened a prop delete discussion at head, and we should have a bit of a natter before other similar articles are created. Yes, heads exist in the DWU, but have they ever actually been defined? That's the real problem in creating an article about a ubiquitous thing. 22:41: Sat 22 Oct 2011

DWBIT sourcing
Oh, so you're the guy who does this! What in the world does the reference DWBIT 39 mean, as at 3667 and 3682? You need to include a story name, please. It's like giving a reference to a point about Beep the Meep as (DWM 19) rather than (DWM: The Star Beast)

I know you don't normally respond to me on my talk page, but could you please make an exception in this case? I've never understood what these little (DWBIT #xx) refs are, and I'm very curious about them. 21:36: Sun 23 Oct 2011
 * Ahhhhh. Well, then you can't use it as the sole source of an in-universe article, like a year page. Non-narrative sources cannot be the only basis for an in-universe article, per T:CANON.  They can be used to supplement things, so you could mention it on, say, Dalek, in the behind-the-scenes section.  But you can't include it within the in-universe section of an article, or use it as the basis for an in-universe article. 21:44: Sun 23 Oct 2011

MM/ Want to talk? 17:43, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Decade pages
Please immediately stop creating empty decade pages. It has been a long-held goal of this wiki, with discussions available for your perusal in several threads (typically all containing the keyword "timeline"), to rid the database of precisely these kind of useless pages. You must have either a definite occurrence of a reference to the decade, or something meaningful to say about the decade (backed up, obviously, by narrative citation), for such pages to be created.

Timeline pages absolutely may not consist of simply a list of other dates.

Thanks for your help in trying to create timeline pages, but please remember that the goal is not just to have a page for every year, decade and century in existence. Timeline pages are still part of the normal article space, and the normal guidelines apply to them. Chief amongst the guidelines is that there must be DWU narrative mention or specific real world relevance of all topics on the wiki. If you have any questions about this, please ask them on my talk page. 18:16: Sat 29 Oct 2011
 * Nope. The presence of a year is not sufficient cause for the creation of a decade page, nor is the presence of a year sufficient cause for the creation of a century page, and so on.  There was a time where that was sporadically done on the wiki, but after a lot of effort, we got rid of those type of pages.


 * See, we used to have a ton of pages that said nothing. In fact, if we allowed the sort of thing you were trying to do, we'd have 2011 pages starting from the page 0, which would be a disastrous waste of time and effort.  Yes, a numbering system obviously implies the existence of the "bits in between", but we need for our pages to actually have meaning.  A redlink means that nothing happened in that year — or that we haven't yet discovered if something happened in that year/decade/century.  And that's a valuable thing for our readers to see.  It's better that they see a gap than that they see a largely "false" blue link.


 * Finally, timeline obviates your list of years the decade. Basically you were just creating pages that said the same thing twice.  There's never a need to create a list of dates so long as you're using timeline.


 * It is completely sufficient for most decades to be represented by category pages, not pages in the main namespace. So, category:2380s is fine and even necessary; 2380s is not, unless there's a positive narrative reference to it.


 * For these reasons, your decade pages are being deleted by automatic process. 18:40: Sat 29 Oct 2011

20:20: Tue 20 Dec 2011

1849
Is 1849 specifically mentioned in The True and Indisputable Facts in the Matter of the Ram's Skull, or are you extrapolating based on real world end of Edgar Allan Poe's life? 20:24: Sun 25 Dec 2011
 * Per T:CAN, REF works are secondary sources. They may not be used as the sole source behind an in-universe article.  You've given the source of The True and Indisputable Facts in the Matter of the Ram's Skull, but really it's The Discontinuity Guide.  You've plainly misrepresented the source.  The article will therefore be deleted.  Please use only the stories themselves for in-universe articles.  REF sources are only valid as behind the scenes notes.  03:05: Mon 26 Dec 2011

Specify incarnations please
In your newly-created article, 1624, you pipe switched the incarnation of the Doctor. Please remember that, according to T:DOCTORS,  is preferred over. Thanks :) 16:51: Sat 14 Jan 2012

--Tangerineduel / talk 14:21, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Romana
Please note that T:ROMANA requires you to link to the specific incarnation of Romana and to display that incarnation number. So in future, please use, not. Thanks :) 21:05: Fri 23 Mar 2012

Audio stories
Hi, I was just looking at the layout of Destination: Nerva and back at the history (I know it was back August last year that you created it). Anyways, when creating pages for audio stories the format of the subheadings is marginally different from TV stories. It goes - Publisher's summary, Plot, Cast, References, Notes, Continuity, External links. For more information on the layout see Tardis:Format for audio stories. --Tangerineduel / talk 14:39, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Image links
Hi :) Thanks for trying to create a template which provided a link to an image category.  I changed and locked your version, however, so I wanted to tell you why.  For reasons of design integrity, we want the links used for character image categories to be the same as the links used on TV story pages.  We also want the template to function in a way that's easy to understand.  If at all possible it should work on the majority of pages simply by using the template name.

For these reasons, your template has been rather radically altered, and is now at. Please see the documentation there for further information. is being stripped from pages and will likely be deleted by the time you read this. 00:36: Mon 09 Jul 2012

Merge tags
Hi. When using the merge tags add them to one article. Not both. Because when merging we need to know which article to merge into the other. With for example Navigational Officer and Navigation Officer there is nothing on the pages (or the talk page) to suggest which to merge into the other. Thanks. --Tangerineduel / talk 05:19, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

Source check
Please give your source for the actual names Ten-Six-Five and Ten-Six-Six. If it's in Doomsday, please give a time code, cause I can't find it. Thanks :) 16:54: Wed 30 Jan 2013
 * Sorry, could you be a bit more specific? Which confrontation?  Can you give me an approximate time code or more precise locational information, please?   22:49: Wed 30 Jan 2013
 * Transcripts don't count for us. You should know that by now. :) Anyway, thanks for being more specific.  I was able to find it.  No wonder I didn't find it; it was well before they're actually in open dialogue with the Daleks.  I think I was thrown, too, because the they make a big point of not self-identifying to the Daleks during the scene you described.  23:08: Wed 30 Jan 2013

Spine
Nice one, really. That was an awesome edit. ComicBookGoddess ☎  02:27, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

User page blanked
I blanked your user page today because it was wholly broken by unclosed div tags, and because it contained a number of redlinked files, inimical to maintenance of Special:WantedFiles and other similar reports. I blanked it to stop new users from freaking out if they come to your page. Please conduct experiments on sandboxes, where new users are less likely to arrive. You have a lot of edits with us, and people inevitably click on your name in history reports. Newbies simply can't be greeted by the broken mess that was your user page. 02:44: Fri 26 Apr 2013

Hezrah
Hi! I noticed that you were the page creator of Hezrah and the one who labelled it a planet. I get the impression from the story that it is more of a city, specifically because of the following two quotes: Could you explain your reasoning for labelling it a planet? Thanks! Shambala108 ☎  05:50, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * "It was a two-mile march to the Sanctuary of Stars in the very centre of Hezrah."
 * The Sanctuary of Stars dominated Hezrah's skyline."

K9 cast
Since this diff indicates you were the one who added the cast to Dream-Eaters, and your name is all over the K9 TV story pages, I'm gonna assume that you are largely the source of cast information for that series. The thing I can't work out is where you're getting your info. As broadcast, K9 stories barely had any cast information beyond the regular/recurring cast and stunt performers playing the CCPC, and maybe the single most important member of the guest cast. There's nothing like the list you gave at Dream-Eaters in the as-broadcast end credits. So what's your source? 17:30: Sat 08 Jun 2013
 * I'm looking at the end credits to Dream-Eaters right now and there's only two names in the end credits. I've randomly pulled a few other episodes, looking at copies from both Net10 and Disney XD transmissions, and none of them have anything more than recurring characters, the principle guest star, and the CCCP stunt people.  Were you looking at a DVD copy?  Oh, and I'm not talking about extras necessarily.  I'm talking about people with lines.  To give specifics, the only people I can source on Dream Eaters are:
 * Robert Moloney, Keegan Joyce, Philippa Coulthard, Daniel Webber, John Leeson (titles) and
 * Robyn Moore and Connor Van Vuuren (credits)
 * That's it. Seven people.  And yet you've got a whopping 36 names on the list.  So where'd they come from?  Are they DVD credits?   19:33: Sat 08 Jun 2013
 * Wow, that's crazy. I'm looking now at the Net10 TX and you're absolutely right. I wonder what kinda legal magic allowed Disney to truncate the cast list like that.  Okay, well, thanks for answering.  This is gonna change our policies a bit.  19:58: Sat 08 Jun 2013

TDW
It's great that you want to start pages on individual TDW episodes. However, I urge you to stop. We need to think about a format for these pages first before we continue creating them. They should not use the documentary format, because they're not documentaries. A whole new format and infobox news to be created so that the pages can be created quickly and accurate.

Please stop creating these pages. A format will be created in due course. We've done without these pages for five years; a little longer won't kill us.

You are of course welcome to create a sample sandbox page where you work up your idea of how the pages should go. But please don't continue creating pages by forcing a square peg into a round hole. 20:25: Sun 12 Jan 2014
 * No, they shouldn't be viewed as "like" anything else. A whole new format needs to be developed.  They have a rhythm all their own.  Indeed, there's a format for series 1 and a format for series 2, really.  We need to have sections that correspond to the segments in each series.  Once that's resolved, we can then go on to create an infobox that pulls highlights out.   20:54: Sun 12 Jan 2014

Blocked from zubat wiki
Please, give me another chance, Im pegging ya, and I have your word as a sailor (B-Fighterfan ☎  21:28, May 16, 2014 (UTC))