Howling:River has a Time Agent vortex manipulator.

In the 2 minute clip, you can see her vortex manipulator vaugely, but in one of the promo pictures, you can see it completely. She swings round with some fancy futuristic gun in one hand, and Time Agent strap on her other arm. Well, looks like the debate of her identity is over: she is a Time Agent, like Jack. Time Agents are individual humans from the 51st century, who developed Time Travel during that time. River Song is from the 51st century, and there she has it, a Time Agent strap.

Can we finally settle this silly debate as to who she is? I read an interview shortly before The Time of Angels, where she was clearly refered to as being as time traveler herself, too, but no one would accept it. Or, they said she had a TARDIS. But no, the finale proves her to be a Time Agent, it seems. They're from a group of Time Travelrs from the 51st century who, well, time traveler. In the finale, River is known to have been time traveling around on her own, going to Roman era, just like Jack went to World War II. I swear, if I see one more River-is-so-and-so rubbish, I might scream. She's a Time Agent. I had that thoery since she first appeared (funny that, time traveling human from the 51st century... sounded like a Time Agent), and now a picture clearly showed her Time Agent strap, exactly the same as Jack's strap, no less.

The simple answer is there now, she is one of the remaining Time Agents, and at some point met ther Doctor in her travels. You can vaugely notice the strap in the clip, as I said., but very clearly in one of the images, which was shown in the spoiler section of the Gallifrey Base forum.

I was thought that River = Time Lady bull wasn't going to come true. The fact that she was a Time Traveler from the 51st century and written by Steven Moffat (who wrote Jack first) said it all, now the finale throws it in your face with her vortex manipulator. Of course, I'm expecting some doop fanboy to come along and find some reason for her to actually be a Time Lady. Typical fanboyism: everyone mysteries must be someone from the Doctor's past. No, River is River, someone from his future, not his past. Good lord! Delton Menace 20:47, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Silly debate? Come on! Many people out there would say any debate about Dr Who was silly but as this forum exists for the purpose of such debate surely any topic is OK.81.141.84.224 07:13, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I thought she might be a Time Agent since The Time of Angels, the closer for me (after sonic gun and time traveller) being the hallucinogenic lipstick she used on the Byzantium guard. Remember Captain John Hart disabling Gwen in Torchwood with something on his lips? Torchwood Five 188.28.217.149 02:18, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

May not be the right place for this, but does anyone else think the Doctor will use the vortex manipulator to cross his own time-stream? This would be the perfect explanation for how he did it.


 * Now, as much as I hope she is a time agent, you do have to understand that there is a chance she isn't. I mean, just because Jack had a TARDIS coral doesn't make him a Time Lord, does it? Just in the same way that Moffat hinted that the blaster she used in the library could have been Jack's, the same can be said of the wrist strap. And until she actually confirms it, or someone does, we can't list her as such. And if Jack really does turn out to be the face of boe, well then, he'll have no need for the strap. The Thirteenth Doctor 09:54, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

She _is_ Jack after a bit of simple surgery in 2113.

Is it just me or do the votex manipulators seem a bit _too_ good. Everybody's time travel stuff seems to be better than the Time Lords. Jack Chilli (keeps crashing this laptop when I log in).