Talk:Santa Claus

Geoff?
Where did the Geoff thing come from? 24.8.4.217 22:04, November 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * I believe that's from A Christmas Carol, where the Eleventh Doctor alleged his name was Geoff (or Jeff?). It's a fairly offhand joke, so who knows if that really "counts". -- Tybort (talk page) 22:14, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's where it comes from. "Father Christmas. Santa Claus. Or as I've always known him, Geoff." -- Tybort (talk page) 01:09, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

The DVD subtitles spell it "Jeff". Of course, they're not infallible, but in the absence of another source I think we can go with that spelling. —Josiah Rowe ☎  01:29, January 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * Agreed. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 02:45, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Main image
Santa was in a comic, right? Then, if I understand our policies right, no cover art should be used in the main box. I shall now remove it. --OS24 04:03, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Name
As we use British English on this wiki, shouldn't this page be titled Father Christmas rather than Santa Claus? Santa Claus can be considered an Americanisation. 66 Seconds ☎  21:50, December 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Both versions of the name have been used in stories. JagoAndLitefoot ☎  22:09, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict)
 * He's called "Santa" in The Man Who (Nearly) Killed Christmas and "Santa Claus" in Home Fires. Shambala108 ☎  22:13, December 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe that despite it being an americanism, "Santa Claus" is more commonly used in DW stories than "Father Christmas", although the latter also appears. JagoAndLitefoot ☎  22:15, December 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Incidentally, Tardis:Use British English applies to "spelling, punctuation, and word usage". Names of characters, locations, etc. are usually spelled the way they are in the stories. If there is a difference among stories, there is sometimes debate over which name to use. Shambala108 ☎  22:22, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

What about "Saint Nicholas"? Are there explicit connections in the narrative? If so, shouldn't we have a single page? HarveyWallbanger ☎  14:38, December 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, there are: A Visit from Saint Nicholas. JagoAndLitefoot ☎  23:58, December 21, 2014 (UTC)

Death in Blackpool
I believe the Death in Blackpool part should be removed - I never got an impression that the drunken "Santa" from the story was anything more than a man in a costume. JagoAndLitefoot ☎  15:40, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

Split with Santa Claus (Last Christmas)?
Though based, of course, on the present humans' knowledge of the Santa Claus legend, the Santa Claus played by Nick Frost in Last Christmas appears, to me, to be a different individual from the "real" Santa Claus the First Doctor encounters in A Christmas Story and other tales, the one whom he knows as "Jeff".

It is, to me, quite telling that the Twelfth Doctor repeatedly disbelieves Frost's characters claims of being Santa Claus; he doesn't acknowledge him as the Santa, only an impersonator (or, as it turns out, a shared hallucination).

Thus, I move that a Santa Claus (Last Christmas) page be created, covering the individual who temporarily existed inside the Dream Crabs' shared dream. There is at least one precedent for such a "dream entity" of questionable sentience obtaining a page: Dream Lord. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎  21:27, August 3, 2018 (UTC)

Separate page for Saint Nicholas?
Currently Saint Nicholas redirects to the Santa Claus page, however I think this may pose an issue now that the historical and biblical Saint Nicholas has actually appeared in a story (Ravenous 2 Krampus two parter) and seemingly has no connection to “Santa Claus”.

So I’m wondering whether a separate page should be made for the “real” Saint Nicholas rather than adding him to the page of his mythical counterpart.

SarahJaneFan ☎  20:47, October 12, 2018 (UTC)