User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-1451563-20180913002703/@comment-24894325-20180926223828

There is also an interesting passage in "Previously..." at the beginning of the same comic, which is inching closer towards in-universe info: "...the Twelfth Doctor faced his darkest hour: ... losing Missy to herself..." It seems to me that he lost Missy to John Simm's Master. In other words, "herself" here kinda applies to a male incarnation.

I have a bad feeling about this: namely, that the writers will end up with the same discordial mess as us.

Accordingly, I have a proposal. Instead of continuing this debate immediately, we pull out popcorn, sit and watch how the in-universe will deal with it. After we have a larger sample set of strictly in-universe utterances, we might be able to make more educated guesses.