User talk:SOTO

To save you the trouble, just call me SOTO. Also, please sign your messages. Thanks.

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Playing field and Lowe
I thought so too, but it's hopeless to seek a confirmation. The only detail is that it's "distant" and visible from the window of Quill's class. But how many playing fields can one school have?

Another matter: I put Lowe for rename, but there is also Lowe (clone) of him. Amorkuz ☎  18:53, November 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * I did Kindle search on "B3" in all three novels. It is never mentioned.


 * About the age, thanks for the heads up: I just assumed the distinction is between shows/groups. I'll pay attention now. Do you by any chance know which year they are? I somehow could not find this (I did not search for long as I didn't think it important). Knowing the defenders' year would help because some students, like Danielle Westby are introduced by a year. Amorkuz ☎  19:42, November 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * Bunghole is used once by Tanya in the 2nd novel. However, the word Rift has been used multiple times (I can count if it's important). So I've been thinking that the proper name might be Coal Hill Space-Time Rift, by analogy with Cardiff Space-Time Rift. Amorkuz ☎  20:53, November 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * So I checked more carefully. Apparently, it is used exclusively in the second novel (10 times), so it might be a writer's thing. But then again, it might be a function of narrative. I haven't read the third novel (yet), but in the first they don't get a lot of time to sit around and think about the Rift. Amorkuz ☎  21:14, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Hello
Hi pal, what to the Eighth Doctor page from Alixion? He appeared in a short DWM 1 page comic, like Doctor Who and the Last Stand, called What If? (comic story) in DWM 255 if he didn't appear in anything else. Best wishes. Denchen  ☎  21:37, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Quirke
Any idea what happened to the page on the BBC Choice and it's Doctor? Best wishes. Denchen  ☎  21:48, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Joyriders category
I thought about it myself but was hesitant to create a new category without a second opinion. Here's my feeling about it: it shouldn't be everyone who used the machine. I think it should include people who used it to fulfil their dark desires. At least, the name "Joyriders" can only support this usage and needs to be changed otherwise. The two individuals I want to exclude are 1) the alien pilot, who was doing his job and trying to save his ship and crew and 2) Ram Singh who used the machine to save his friends and defeat Fletcher. (By the way, after you mentioned that you did not read the novels yet, I kept minding to apologise for spoiling the first for you, perhaps, completely. However, I personally liked the second one more.) Amorkuz ☎  22:33, November 3, 2016 (UTC)


 * Done and will be populated by new pages. Amorkuz ☎  00:35, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Chatting thread
| A thread was started yesterday, completely not about editing, which, by T:NOT BOARD, should be closed. OncomingStorm12th ☎  12:23, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

Infobox for real world companies
Hey, is there already an infobox for this? It would be used on pages such as LEGO, BBC One, BBC Worldwide, Big Finish Productions, et al., and could have parameters such as:
 * founding date
 * related DWU products (TV shows, documentaries, LEGO sets, etc)
 * closure date (for companies such as AudioGO)
 * videos (for advertises of the company uploded on the wiki, and stuff like that) (maybe 2 or 3 parameters for this)

Thanks. OncomingStorm12th ☎  21:22, November 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it's kinda of one of my things. I hate seeing pages without infoboxes. They seem sort of incomplete to me. I find infoboxes such a quick way to gather information on them. Anyway, thanks for making it. OncomingStorm12th ☎  21:32, November 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. One last request though: would it be possible to add it to the Standard preloads? It really is a time-saver for adding infoboxes. OncomingStorm12th ☎  22:36, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

Class all over the world
I'm afraid I don't have good news for you. My travels all over the world, past and present, have left me with an assortment of accounts in various countries. I got my Class novels from the German Amazon Kindle store. There they were available on the same day as in the UK. I don't know if you can order a paper copy to be delivered to Canada. Also I am puzzled why they wouldn't sell it in Canada where the series already airs. After all, the Canadian Amazon store is separate from the US one. And there I was hoping if I start editing The Stone House, it will not create major real-world spoilers for you. I still can't do it for at least a week though due to the lack of time. Amorkuz ☎  06:53, November 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey SOTO, I've found copies of the Class books on AbeBooks.com which I consider to have reasonable prices (including shipping to Canada). If you're interested here are links to The Stone House, Joyride, & What She Does Next Will Astound You. CoT     ?  05:16, December 3, 2016 (UTC)

Doctor actors
Hello my good pal, can I create a category "Invalid individuals" for people who played the Doctor" for the Five(ish) Doctor actors, Who is Tom Baker Doctor actors and mentions as well as Tonight's the Night David Tennant. Yeah, it&#39;s me &#34;Denchen&#34;... I couldn&#39;t believe it either.   ☎  12:12, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Invalid
Hello the invalid list was complete, with all the invalid stories that are officially licensed, the only thing that wasn't complete was the game section but I was going to add it.

Is there any chance of restoring the page, I thought it'd help new users determine the invalidity of sources straight off and it'd help old users as a reminder. I really do hope you consider restoration, I can assure you it was complete. At the end of the day, it's up to you and the admins. Thanks for your time, best wishes. Yeah, it&#39;s me &#34;Denchen&#34;... I couldn&#39;t believe it either.  ☎  16:36, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Class
The new Class story appeared at atleast nine o clock today. Yeah, it&#39;s me &#34;Denchen&#34;... I couldn&#39;t believe it either.  ☎  09:24, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Class B3
Why has the Speedy rename been changed to a simple rename? Is there an in-universe occasion where it is called B3? Because if not, it really needs to be changed to B03, as can be seen on Detained (TV story). OncomingStorm12th ☎  19:54, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Category
Hello my good man, I'm asking you about this because you're the only admin active at the minute but can I created a "Invalid television stories" category now as they're enough to hold in the category. My reasoning is categories are supposed to making looking for articles easier and not having to search for the television stories would make it easier. Anyway best wishes pal. Yeah, it&#39;s me &#34;Denchen&#34;... I couldn&#39;t believe it either.  ☎  11:07, November 20, 2016 (UTC)


 * As I take an interest in it, with your permission I'd happily sort Non-DWU Stories into their correct story format if you so wished. Best wishes. Yeah, it&#39;s me &#34;Denchen&#34;... I couldn&#39;t believe it either.  ☎  11:32, November 20, 2016 (UTC)


 * Just wondering if I'm allowed to give the invalid category a big sort out? Yeah, it&#39;s me &#34;Denchen&#34;... I couldn&#39;t believe it either.  ☎  16:46, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Invalid
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/User:DENCH-and-PALMER/Sandbox3 Here is my idea, I also believe that the parodies and pastiches section should be abolished as most invalid stories are for that reason and some may be both leaving it to be redundant. Yeah, it&#39;s me &#34;Denchen&#34;... I couldn&#39;t believe it either.  ☎  17:52, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism
User 210.55.186.163 has just vanadalised the Dalek Thay page. Yeah, it&#39;s me &#34;Denchen&#34;... I couldn&#39;t believe it either.  ☎  21:11, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Class spoiler
On the topic of editing "Detained", I understood it was not a breach of the spoiler policy to mention the name of the following episode, though it has not yet aired, specifically because the name of the episode has already been released. The name of the episode is *also* on the "Series 1 (Class)" page, so I thus assumed it was OK to mention it. Thanks.

Got you. Thanks very much for the info, and my apologies!

You're a good pal
Dear SOTO,

I'm just here to say an honest thank you. 😊

You're one of the nicest admins and users in general. When I started here, I was unsure of what to do and got upset when people undid my work.

But you were really nice and told me what to do. You are a genuinely really nice and kind person. You've stuck up for me and helped me in places.

I just wanted you to know you're really kind and you helped me when I was in a dark place. You should be proud of yourself, you've helped an autistic person develop a set of skills and something I now love doing and enjoy.

And incase I never get to say it again - Thank you pal.

P.S. Thanks for helping me with the pages I create, I really do appreciate. Thanks SOTO. 😊 - Denchen: Lord of Invalidness   ☎  20:07, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

thanks
One of those days I will ask. I promise. Amorkuz ☎  00:33, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Video policy
I know that Tardis:Video policy has a warning that users can't upload videos anymore, but wouldn't it be better to change the rest of the text as well? Many parts of it actually suggest that users upload videos, and the top warning can be easily ignored by users (I myself only noted that one exists now). OncomingStorm12th ☎  19:37, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

or
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/File:The_Metaphysical_Engine,_or_What_Quill_Did_title_card_1.jpg Here you are my good sir. 😊 - Denchen: Lord of Invalidness   ☎  11:22, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Miss Quill's arn
The removal might be because of another edit going on at the same time. I was editing the page too. I apologize for its removal. --DCLM ☎  00:27, November 28, 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, I did look through the ongoing edit as I edited, and I think I added it all. Apparently that particular one I seemed to have missed. I apologize about that. About the categories... not sure that's me, but not entirely sure, though. Perhaps we should watch the edit histories on newly-created pages, as those seem to be the most affected. --DCLM ☎  06:53, November 28, 2016 (UTC)
 * It could be, but I have no clue. All I know is that when I experience an edit conflict I look down what the change was and try to copy as much valuable information from that edit into my own. However, it could be that I missed the categories. --DCLM ☎  11:42, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Specification
When you said no specifying dimensions, were you referring to my image I added to the Armitage page? If so, I promise hand on heart that I didn't specify as I've been told not to, best wishes - Denchen: Lord of Invalidness   ☎  22:14, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

3 part Moffat
Two things SOTO my good man. A) Thanks to your help, I've just created my first page entirely in source. B) In the Series 9 DVD feature Writing Who: Episode 10. When discussing Series 9 and Sarah Dollard, Steven Moffat said that her story is the start of a three parter. If Moffat says it, then this should be reconsidered.

Thanks for your time pal 😊. - Denchen: Lord of Invalidness  ☎  21:23, November 30, 2016 (UTC)

David Banks Doctor
Thanks for helping me out SOTO. I'm sure S108 had good reasons for reverting my edit but I'm sure I was doing the right thing. What do you think in the matter? - Denchen: Lord of Invalidness  ☎  21:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC)

Just a Heads Up on a Spoiler
Hello pal, you know how sometimes you edit the latest Class story page - before you've seen the episode. Just a heads up, I've watched it on IPlayer already and there will be some major plot spoilers if you edit before watching. And a brilliant spoilers if I might add. Though seriously, you'll probably have it ruined if you edit it on the core first. Best Wishes. -- Denchen: Lord of all that is invalid    ☎  09:59, December 3, 2016 (UTC)

Navbox
I've been looking into a navbox that can be added to the bottom of invalid on screen stories.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/User:DENCH-and-PALMER/Sandbox:_Invalid_stories

So I created one, I thought I'd come to the expert (you) to see what he thinks.

Could this be something we use... and it's complete?

Best wishes. -- Denchen: Lord of all that is invalid    ☎  22:27, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

Happy to help
Happy to help pal. And it was indeed a magnificent episode - certainly the highlight of the series. -- Denchen: Lord of all that is invalid    ☎  22:49, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * And sorry that you had the Angels spoiled. --  Denchen: Lord of all that is invalid    ☎  22:55, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

Animated versions Years
The animated versions have a year of creation, can we at least add that into the correct category?

We can't get around the fact the animated version of The Power of the Daleks was released in 2016. - How shall this be handled?

Anyways thank for your time pal, best wishes. -- Denchen: Lord of all that is invalid    ☎  22:38, December 5, 2016 (UTC)

Clockworks
I also though of Clockworks being strangely plural, but a quick snooping around showed that it does not seem to be used in singular, ever. A message from User:Revanvolatrelundar states this definitively on Talk:Clockworks. Amorkuz ☎  23:19, December 11, 2016 (UTC)

Advert infobox
It has come to my attention that the infoboxes on advert pages have been removed. Which is probably because infobox story was being used. However I propose to you that an infobox advertisement is created. That way pages like Prime Computer, BT. Walls' sky ray and superannuation can have an housey infobox. Thanks for your time, best wishes. - Sir DENCH-and-PALMER  ☎  09:40, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Unanswered question
When he took her home on Earth in 2005 after she saw the planet burn up and there was nothing but rocks and dust in 5,000,000,000, why did he finally told her about the Time War, the death of his people, his planet burned and that he is the last of his species? (http://tardis.wikia.com/d/p/2895919597658048401) Doctor 25 ☎  11:33, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Speedy rename
Hi SOTO, hate to bother you, but could you perhaps rename Evans (The Web of Fear) to Gwynfor Evans? CoT    ?  19:53, December 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm not finding any "George Albert" in The Forgotten Son. It would seem that George Albert comes from Downtime. My gut says to name the page "Albert Arnold" as that is the name which he obviously prefers going by; Downtime doesn't seem to contradict that as a possibility. 20:33, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

Seven Keys to Doomsday discussion
Could you close the Inclusion debate on the audio adaptation of Seven Keys to Doomsday? --Pluto2 (talk) 06:18, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

Clockwork award and Wyse
Thanks for pointing out. :)

Not to waste a post, could you please help merge the pages Wyse and Pooter onto Shade Vassily? I will then deal with the content. It's just two aliases of the same person, so individual pages are not warranted but redirects are reasonable. (If it's safe for me to just turn the two pages into redirects without an admin's intervention, just let me know.) Thanks in advance. Amorkuz ☎  09:41, December 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you. That's exactly what I needed. I'll fix the joint now. Amorkuz ☎  20:08, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

Vince Cosmos
You said in Thread:192298 that Vince Cosmos: Glam Rock Detective seems like it should be a valid source to you. Nobody's brought up any objections in the intervening months. Could you close the thread please? Fwhiffahder ☎  16:15, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

Philip Craggs
Philip Craggs is credited like that for The Casebook of the Manleigh Halt Irregulars. I didn't know where to indicate that.

another Manleigh Halt Irregulars story
I've just discovered that Obverse published another Manleigh Halt Irregulars story in another anthology, and technically (I think) the previous decision only covers the one anthology. Can you look at Thread:206804? Thanks, Fwhiffahder ☎  22:37, December 18, 2016 (UTC)

Dave
Yep, there is a British channel called Dave. It's part of the UKTV selection which includes W and Gold. It is also the channel that makes new Red Dwarf since 2009. (Which you'll love if you haven't seen it). - Sir DENCH-and-PALMER  ☎  21:31, December 21, 2016 (UTC)

VOR variables on infoboxes
Well, to be completly honest, I was having similar thoughs, but had not come up with something pratical. Also being honest, I wasn't even aware this parameter existed for, but it is a great ideia, because VOR (since it is a Big Finish magazine itself) and DWM are a very pratical place to retrieve behind-the-scenes information. In my opinion, this should for sure be added to, and, maybe, one day both DWM and VOR could be added to as well.

Only a small PS: I don't know if it was a confusion, but the pages which get are the audio series ones, not the anthologies.

Happy Hollidays and a great New Year to you. OncomingStorm12th ☎  02:15, December 22, 2016 (UTC)

The Big Finish Podcast
Look, I haven't really heard any of these, so I don't know how much they talk about the releases themselves. My general thoughs are:


 * a) If they discuss cast/crew members of the stories and anthologies released, this seems a potential good place to find uncredited actors.
 * b) Concerning infoboxes: would any already existing infobox be suited for this, or would a new one need to be created?
 * c) I also must say that I won't (probably) be able to help much on filling old podcasts, but, if this idea comes to reality, I can start listening the new ones, to help.

Overall, I think this is not a bad idea. Podcasts can be as much a good source for information as traditional magazines. OncomingStorm12th ☎  02:35, December 22, 2016 (UTC)


 * Look, if a podcast give even half the information you could retrieve from The Weakest Link: Doctor Who Special (which is very likely), I'd say these would be very helpfull pages.

A small note/curiosity that I think I read about one of the podcasts, but would need to search before adding to pages: Apparently, even though they already work with Neve McIntosh, Big Finish isn't allowed to use Vastra on their stories. It seems that they aren't allowed to use Jenny Flint as well. For some reason, it appears the only character from the Paternoster Gang BBC allowed them to use was Strax. (which I think would be a great "behind the scenes" information for both Paternoster Gang and The Haunting (audio story) if I could find the source for it).

Every time I think about it, I am more and more in favour of making pages for these podcasts. OncomingStorm12th ☎  16:42, December 22, 2016 (UTC)

Me again
Can you take a look at Thread:207278? Thanks, Fwhiffahder ☎  15:10, December 22, 2016 (UTC)

Rename
Would you as a pal be able to delete Blackpool Exhibition (TV story) because it's a duplicate and make Merry Christmas from the BBC BBC1 Christmas Message?

Also as a pal, would you be able to add the (TV story) dab name to Search Out Space, The Corridor Sketch, The Kidnappers, The Web of Caves and The Pitch of Fear and leave the original titles as redirects.

Thanks very much pal. 😊😊 P.S. If you don't have the time right now then no rush but it is making the wiki look unorganised. Best wishes. - Sir DENCH-and-PALMER  ☎  22:58, December 22, 2016 (UTC)


 * It appears that the hypercubes aren't working, so I'll shove a message in the edit summary so you'll see it.


 * Exhibition has been dealt with pal.


 * Though none of the others have, would you'll be able to add a dab term to the aforementioned stories? Also I'd love you forever if you could change National Television Awards sketch 2011 to National Television Awards special (TV story) - to suit naming conventions. Thanks for your time pal. DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  15:31, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

Alexander Hamilton
"The Long Con" is a multi-Doctor story, with the Tenth, Eleventh and Twelfth Doctor, but I don't have a copy, so I didn't specify which Doctor(s) actually met Alexander Hamilton on his page (only that the Doctor met him in that story). As for the mention in "The Impossible Astronaut", the Doctor did not say that they fancied him in that incarnation. Unless you have a copy of "The Long Con" and can confirm the incarnations that met him, it's best to remove the categories for incarnations of the Doctor that did. JagoAndLitefoot ☎  04:26, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Category request
I've been thinking and I've had a wonderful idea for a category. "Stories by writer " - As long as they've written more than 3 stories in any medium then this could work. It'd help us easily access which writer wrote what and we could have all the writers DW "TV", "comic", "novel" and "audio" works in one place. Just a thought, please let me know what you think. - Sir DENCH-and-PALMER  ☎  10:23, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Your thoughts
I don't know if this is how one goes about it but, what are your thoughts on my nominating User:OncomingStorm12th. See link.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Tardis:User_rights_nominations - Sir DENCH-and-PALMER   ☎  22:26, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Page moves
Hey SOTO, I usually don't request these, but could you move the following pages (all links already moved):
 * Series 1 (Jago & Litefoot)
 * Series 11 (Jago & Litefoot)
 * Series Three (Jago & Litefoot)
 * Series Two (Jago & Litefoot)
 * The Diary of River Song Series One (audio anthology)
 * The Diary of River Song Series Two (audio anthology)
 * Charlotte Pollard Series One (audio anthology)

The reason I'm asking is because that's how Big Finish usually refer to them on the "News" section, and because, even though they also use them without the ":" the names make much more sense with them, and are how they're mostly used. (Not sure if a redirect should be kept to the version of the name wihtout the colon, though). Thank you, and happy hollidays OncomingStorm12th ☎  23:43, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

"Summary" on comic pages
If the "summary" on comic pages should be "Publisher's summary" in the cases where it is taken directly form the comics, perhaps you'll need to run a bot through all (comic story) pages. If I'm not wrong, all (or, at least, most) of them have the Publisher's summary", but the sections are simply called "Summary". OncomingStorm12th ☎  01:32, December 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, I may have exaggerated myself. From what I can recall, I'd say all/most Titan comics have Publisher's summaries. Won't give a word on IDW's comics, and comics from other sources, because I'm not sure at all about them. OncomingStorm12th ☎  01:45, December 29, 2016 (UTC)


 * We need to get a room for this discussion. Yes, the summaries are part of the issue. (Maybe they are not present in the rare issues that are collections of stories, like the Free Comic Book Day issues. I know seven stories like that. Can make a list if need be. Amorkuz ☎  07:56, December 29, 2016 (UTC)


 * And I meant Titan comics, of course. Amorkuz  ☎  07:57, December 29, 2016 (UTC)


 * Was wrong, mixed them with "Prevoiously". Should stop editing in a Zugzwang. Amorkuz ☎  08:09, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

plagiarism by anonymous user(s)
Hi! This issue has bothered me for some time now. I contacted another admin about it, but was not persuasive enough. There is (are) anonymous user(s) who keep adding trivia to the classical Doctor Who TV story pages. Sometimes, these are taken verbatim from imdb, which I do not believe is considered a valid source. The last change by IP address 92.6.171.132 to The Tenth Planet is a very close quote from : take, for instance, "(albeit all rather similar)" or "an accessory considered too costly to implement". Needless to say, the source is not stated, let alone checked for validity.

I don't feel I have authority to tell this/these user(s) what is and is not allowed. And by now a serious clean up is needed to dozens of stories. I thought I would try again to alert powers that be of a potentially bad situation. Amorkuz ☎  12:31, December 29, 2016 (UTC)


 * The first edit I've noticed was to An Unearthly Child on August 28. Let try to link to it directly. Amorkuz ☎  15:37, December 29, 2016 (UTC)


 * In principle, I'd be happy to help clean it up (if no better way exists, I could try to compile a list of IPs you mentioned). At least at first, there was a clear pattern: they were going from first serial up, systematically, typically using the word "trivia" in the edit summary for the first edit. However, there are cases of several consecutive edits for the same page, some with empty edit summaries. Lately, I have seen fewer of these edits (I'm only signed up for updates for all stories till The Time Warrior), and they stopped being so systematic. Amorkuz ☎  22:55, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

Oh god, sorry
I've realised now.

I'm a human fool.

I can't tell you how sorry I am mate.

You clearly have a things to do and me pestering you every few minutes is probably annoying you deeply.

I'm sorry. The hypercubes aren't broken. My common sense is.

I can only wish you the best, and apologise for inconvenience. DENCH-and-PALMER 22:36, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

Faction Paradox
Can you move the debate back to "Inclusion debates" and reopen it? The outcry on CzechOut's talk page is massive, and this proves, beyond reasonable doubt, that authorial intent is that FP is part of the DWU. The technical argument is in no way grounds for exclusion, to the point one admin has called CzechOut out for this. --Pluto2 (talk) 02:31, December 30, 2016 (UTC)