Board Thread:Inclusion debates/@comment-31010985-20190928203157/@comment-6032121-20191013230704

Also, you are misquoting me. I didn't say anything about M&W being the "most trusted online dictionary", that was all User:Borisashton.

Also also, it is one thing that we do not trust statements about themselves by real-life people, but it is another that we should mistrust statements by real-life people about other companies. If you're saying that Arcbeatle Press's website is not a valid source for "Decipher, Inc. said [X]", then you're asking us to consider the possibility that Arcbeatle Press lied about Decipher Inc. Is that really the route you want to go down? (Note, additionally, that as I understand it, T:NO SELF REF is for people, not publishing companies. Whether Arcbeatle Press is a person or a company is precisely what we're trying to establish here! Within the position I was arguing for, it does not break T:NO SELF REF to source statements about Arcbeatle Press to Arcbeatle Press, if it is indeed a company, rather than an individual posing as one.)