Howling:The Whoniverse timeline is not linear and fixed, which creates problems here.

On here, the Whoniverse timeline has all stories down in the same, linear timeline. The problem is, that is not how it works in the Whoniverse. Good examples are how Dalek (no Daleks recorded in history in 2010, not even on the Internet) took place prior to The Stolen Earth/Journey's End in the series episodes, but then Amy of Ghosts/Doomsday and The Stolen Earth/Journey's End, and even Daleks in Manhatten/Evolution of the Daleks and Victory of the Daleks came along and put a huge 'DALEKS' stamp in Earth history. For goddness knows, The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang will likely feature the new Daleks in 2010.

We have Daleks spanning from 1930 to 2008 or 2009, canceling out the events of Dalek. Every action the Doctor makes in his personal timeline will change the timeline he exists in. His actions lead to the Daleks invasions in the 21st century more-or-less (if he hadn't of caused the creation of Torchwood, the Daleks wouldn't have been summoned, and therefore Dalek Caan wouldn't have resurrected Davros, which caused the latest Earth invasion and canceled out the events of Dalek).

Doctor Who is a constant battle of time, really. Some things are meant to happen, others can be negated. We knew Torchwood had existed prior to the Tenth Doctor causing its creation because his future self already casued its creation. As seen, originally, there had been no Medusa Cascade incident, only the Torchwood incident. Other examples occur with The Mysterious Planet: originally, Earth would be moved and rennamed. The Time War, fought across time, changed the timeline inside and out, as Steven Moffat (the very same man who mentioned that Doctor Who doesn't have a true continuity, only changing time) has said in the past. One of these changes was Earth's ultimate fate. With the Time Lords gone, time is now more prone to being changed than ever before. If an event isn't fixed, it doesn't need to happen.

But the big problem here is the attitude regarding the timeline: it's all linear and everything does happen in this one linear timelinne. That completely ignores what both the show, the writers, and the Doctor say: in Doctor Who, there isn't a true and fixed continuity, and the Doctor's time traveling changes history all the time. Time is in flux, it can change.

Why do so many here ignore all of that? Are some of you so stubborn, you can't bare the thought of Doctor Who not being in a linear, resricted timeline where everything is simply fated to happen? Delton Menace 14:18, June 5, 2010 (UTC)