User talk:Skittles the hog

Tangerineduel
I've changed the sci-fi footer, you might also want to put it on the wikia Entertainment page.

I don't own this wikia (I don't think anyone owns it). I'm just here a lot. This should outline the basics of user access and what not. --Tangerineduel 14:29, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

DWA
Hi, I've just added to the forum, if you want to have a look, it's basically my defence to creating the article Doctor Who Adventures (Magazine), I only mentioned it as I saw you have shown an interest. Hope its ok. The Librarian 00:21, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Problem Report; Dalek Sec
If you want to open up a dialogue about the article please put it in the page's Talk page rather than the problem report, disputes over the article's validity should be in the Talk. --Tangerineduel 05:16, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Previous/Next Entries
In regards to your edits made for Return of the Daleks and Return to Web Planet, the Previous Story/Next Story entries in the Audiodrama infoboxes refer to the next RELEASED episode by Big Finish, not the next story for that particular Doctor. The Timeline section is used to indicate the previous/next story for a specific Doctor. Just thought I'd give a heads-up in case there was any confusion there.--Colleyd 22:41, 21 February 2008 (UTC)Woof.

Moving/Renaming articles
Hi. In moving information around regarding Black Orchid (TV story) you have effectively removed all the history pertaining to this article. Please use the move function to move pages to preserve the history of said pages (rather than copying the pages' content from one article to another). I've undone and fixed the edits so the page history remains intact. --Tangerineduel 15:45, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Donna Noble
Hello there, I was just wondering where you got the info that Donna leaves in the finale from. If this is not confirmed, then it should not go in untill it has. Jack's the man - 16:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Character details in novels
Please stop removing the character details in the novels. --Tangerineduel 17:20, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I see that overkill is better with regards to the novel character details. Personally I don't believe it's necessary. --Tangerineduel 12:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Ignoring the whole overkill of all the dot points, which is I think still way overkill (ie over the top, too much, too many dot points) for the moment. Why remove the listing for the Doctor and actually listing Eighth Doctor or whatever, in the TV stories or whatever it says just the Doctor with the actual Doctor behind the wiki links, the novels were meant to be the same (as the Big Finish, TV stories etc), so why in this big edit has this changed? The Doctor is listed Seventh Doctor or whatever in the infobox, but as the character list and details is talking about the character of the Doctor, it should be just listed as X Doctor|The Doctor. --Tangerineduel 16:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Re talk page - Novels
No I don't think you should re-do all the other novels as I've said from the outset that it hasn't been necessary (and maintained that it looks a bit overkill with all the dot points), but...this is a wikipedia and any edits can be done/redone/undone so if you really believe that it's totally necessary to introduce that amount of bullet points...just maintain the layout and keep a gap between the characters to encourage future edits (see The Witch Hunters for an example, leaving spaces between the bullet points doesn't alter the overall appearance) For the list of novel abbreviations see Tardis:List of prefixes (which can be found by going to any of the abbreviations clicking the abbreviations category and it's in there), see also the Tardis:Publication Index List (found in the Help:Contents). --Tangerineduel 15:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Basically if you have to I'm not immediately going to change any edits... probably. But as I've said, and will continue to say, when the pages are set out, with information below each character it doesn't look "messy" No Future is a fine enough example, and I'll also continue to say I think it's an overkill or bullet points. --Tangerineduel 16:05, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The character notes are just for the novels and the short stories, as they are the pages that unlike the others don't have cast just characters. Also more comes through about the characters in text hence the extra details in those pages for TV/audio drama it's contained the references, but the novels a wholly more in-universe detailed affair. --Tangerineduel 16:51, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I probably could have, but I like to give reasons for things, just to prempt the possibility of questions. --Tangerineduel 06:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

On the novels pages, especially relating to the MA novels, the X novel occurs between X story and X story. Stop removing it, leave it alone. It's there because that's what is printed on the back of the novels, however it is not the be all and end all of the timeline, often there are stories inserted or that fit in between the novel and the TV stories hence all the information is presented. --Tangerineduel 13:11, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * On adding the bullet points, can you please, please LEAVE THE GAPS between the characters, it's fine if you add in the bullet points but leave the gaps that existed prior to you doing that. It doesn't change the article save'd appearance, but it does make it a hell of a lot easier to edit, and (I'm pretty sure I've said this more than once) will hopefully encourage others to edit. --Tangerineduel 16:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Davros DVD
I think the fires of pompei is the best series 4 episode ..... so far. The doctors daughter sucked though and so though the pyroviles. Haveyou created the complete davros collection page yet cause ive been watching out for it. I would do it but i dont know how to do articles in dvd style. Quark16 16:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I like sad episodes. No I tried to create the article but what categoray does it fall under. ACTOR. RACE/SPECISES .EPISODE etc. maybye you should create the page and then ill fill in the details. That sonds like a great idea.

Quotes
have seen you editing the quotes (removing Links). I made a suggestion on automating that, would be nice if you could tell what you think about Template_talk:Quote. -- Q 1712 (talk 00:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I edited the quptes as they do't need page links as theyre already on that page. Leave the template as it is I rekon unless you really think it needs changing.--Skittles the hog 18:32, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * i did the same, and nearly ended up in an edit war. the change does just that: hiding the [src] not only when beeing blank but also when the page title is exactly the same as the src. As it is not clear (at least not for not advanced users) to leave the src away on the same page, i'll change the template unless you commit to whatching all episode pages and deleting the src as soon as sombody includes it. -- Q 1712 (talk 15:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

series timetable
mind if i copy your new series timetable and fill in my fav stuff. thell be diffrent than yours ! p.s. Im starting the davros dvd ( propley this time.)

you have a bebo ?Quark16 18:35, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry i basically copy and pasted the whole Quark page and didnt notice it. ! LOL Quark16 19:19, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Human Nature
Short and Simple answer. Both are.
 * Explanation (and slighlty longer answer): the Doctor admits that everything past around Lungbarrow is a bit fuzzy in The Scarlet Empress, lets not forget he had his memory wiped in The Ancestor Cell. So he does it once because he's trying to figure out humanity and whatever. Then he does it again because he's hiding.
 * The book and TV story are different, different enough to both be canon (for example different methods of making them human, companions do different things in the two different stories, while the core plot is sort of the same, the nuances, the style of the story is quite different and how the character of Smith develops in contrast to the Doctor of the time is different.) --Tangerineduel 13:23, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The novel and the book are two separate entities.
 * The aliens in the novel are called the Aubertides, they're shapeshifters rather than the Family of Blood in the TV story.
 * In the novel the character of Timothy's name is Timothy Dean and among other things gains two hearts and a respiratory bypass system (he also gets hanged, something that doesn't happen in the TV story).
 * In the novel the Doctor gains his transformation through a ball shaped genetic biopod (this is the thing the Aubertides search for rather than the Doctor), the bipod also gives a different view of the Doctor and the future to Timothy than the TV story does.
 * In the novel the military school is called Hulton College School whilst in the TV story it's Farringham School for Boys (Farrington being the name of the town that the novel is set in).
 * There are numerous other differences. Bernice spends her time in the village meets, while Martha's a servant in the school.
 * There's also the fact that the novel takes place in 1914 while the TV story takes place in 1913.
 * Do I need to continue or is there a specific quandary concerning the two works that I might be able to specifically address? --Tangerineduel 13:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I didn't mean to make it an ultimatum (sorry if I did). The argument over whether it's canon goes/went on in forums, this is the argument for them both, because they are separate entities. --Tangerineduel 13:53, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

What to do now
(I did wonder your motivation for tidying up the novels...) Anyways, if you're looking for stuff to do. There's Orphaned pages these are pages that don't have any pages linking to them, they have links going out to other pages but nothing to them. Sometimes its straight forward enough as adding some stuff in the references section of pages, other times not. If this isn't for you there is the slightly more mindnumbing (well I find it so, which is why I never do it except randomly), but technically speaking there should be a Tardis:Copyright tags on all the images that are uploaded (practically none of the book covers have them, though should) check the copyright tags link for which tag for which image. Alternatively still there is the Category:Doctor Who cast category, several of the names in this category should be in Category:Doctor Who guest actors category, just be careful with this one, the rule of thumb is anyone who's appeared in one story is a guest actor, anyone else should be left in the Doctor Who cast category. Leave me a message if none of these appeal and I'm sure I can remember some other things that need doing.--Tangerineduel 14:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Admin wise. Okay, basically this is why I've held back, in the various responses and additions you've made, from where there has been a large addition of text, the grammar and (on occasions) spelling hasn't been fantastic. Admittedly you technically don't need that to block people or delete articles. But you do need to be able to recognise the difference, correct articles and answer questions posed at you (some of the time, or at least be there to should it necessitate moderate). I also stand by the comments I made back in March User talk:Tangerineduel&oldid=82882. But as with most things I am willing to wait, see and adapt. --Tangerineduel 14:30, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * As I said, lets see. Lately you've been a little hasty in saying people should be blocked (which isn't always necessary and sometimes people need the benefit of doubt), additionally I'm not the only admin around. (Of those that are on hereList of sys ops, User:Doug86 is on here just about as much as I am). As for deleting disambig pages, sometimes its open to opinion whether it's needed or not. So I'll say again, for the things you think need to be deleting put the prop delete around them so I can gage your judgement. --Tangerineduel 14:49, 27 May 2008 (UTC)