Talk:The Curse of Fatal Death (TV story)

The 17th Master
I don't really understand why this is said to be an "error" by the article. At the time, and not considering the still-to-be-made "Utopia", it's pefectly logical to call him the 17th
 * 13th - Delgado + Deadly Assassin/Keeper of Traken Master
 * 14th - Ainley
 * 15th - the guy "killed" by the Daleks in the pre-titles of the 1996 movie (Tipple is too tall to be mistaken for Ainley, even in his brief shot)
 * 16th - Roberts
 * 17th - Pryce

Moreover, the "explanation" given by the article doesn't make logical sense. It's got the "14th" ("the one who battled the Fourth") as distinct from the Delgado Master, when the Deadly Assassin dialogue all but states that its Master is the Delgado Master in a mutilated form. I've therefore removed the bit and archived it below:


 * Why is The Master said to be the 17th master? If the one who came up against the Third Doctor was 13th and the one who stole the body of Tremas was 14th, then the one who battled the Eighth Doctor was 15th, then surly the one in this is the 16th and not 17th? This program is not considered to be canonical, and therefore the mention of the Master's regeneration number may simply be tongue-in-cheek. Still, The 13th Master is The one that fought the Third Doctor, however the 14th One is the one that fought The Fourth, the 15th one is the one that fought th 4th, 5th 6th and 7th Doctors, the 16th one is the one that fought the 8th. Therefore, this is technically the 17th Master.

At the time of production of "Curse" there was no continuity error, as far as I can work out. Now, if someone wants to build a case that, retroactively, a continuity crisis has set in, I suppose you could, since the Doctor's regeneration number is sorta the explicit point of the piece. But is there really a point?

 Czech Out  ☎ | ✍  23:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Pratt/Beevers, Ainley and Tipple must all the same version - The Eighth Doctor says in the TVM that the master's 13th body has just been destroyed by the Daleks. Thus Roberts is the 14th, making this one only the 15th. Jack's the man - 14:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)