Howling:Jack's Memories

Was it ever revealed what Jack's missing two years of memories were from season 1? August Booth ☎  19:34, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

No, although when he reveals his name is the "Face of Boe", it may mean that he went into the future and met the giant head... thing --Afro Circus Afro Circus Afro Polka  Dot Polka Dot  Polka Dot Afro!  22:10, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

Also, how did jack find out he had lost two years? Did john hart tell him?--90.203.151.133talk to me 22:34, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

I also suspect that Jack may have met his future self. But It need not have been the Face of Boe. Even meeting a future self who is immortal would probably be something the Time Agency would want him to forget. But what I really wonder about is the two years aspect. Did something happen that led Jack to pursue some lead which took more than a year to lead to himself? That sort of thing might justify a two year gap, because without erasing the initial prompt, he might well repeat himself. Is it possible that Jack met either immortal Jack, or the Face of Boe, and hung out together for an extended period? If he met the Face, it might be while before he discovers he is the Face. But the name would certainly intrigue him. Or perhaps he met immortal Jack, and was present when immortal Jack became the Face of Boe.

As for how he learned of it, he says he just woke up one day. Presumably he realized when he saw the date that he could only remember up to 2 years past. I would expect a time agent is the sort of person who notices things like dates. The Time Agency could not just send him back 2 years to fool him, because he might still have run into himself during that time.Phil Stone ☎  23:21, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

To make it appear he'd lost two years of memories, they'd need to send him forward, not back, so meeting himself wouldn't be a problem.

As to how he knew he'd lost those memories: Unless the removal were done extremely carefully & thoroughly, there'd be inconsistencies in his memories. He'd realise some things had changed without being able to remember them being in the process of changing. People can (& often do) overlook gradual changes. They tend to notice sudden ones. It's the "My! How you've grown!" syndrome. Those who see a child every day may overlook how much taller that child is than he/she was 2 years before; someone who hasn't seen the child during those 2 years will notice -- & will probably say so. Removing that large a chunk of Jack's memories would be likely to make all kinds of gradual changes seem sudden. --89.241.222.211talk to me 04:08, June 2, 2014 (UTC)

What I meant was they could not send him back 2 years to conceal the lost two years. Since realizing he had lost 2 years was what drove him to leave the Time Agency, sending him 2 years ahead to confuse things would probably only create hostility. But if they tried to conceal the two years of memories they had taken by sending him back 2 years, to live those years over, picking up at the last point they allowed him to remember, there was a chance of running into himself. Of course even 2 years later, as long as he still has his time manipulator, he could still run into himself. Phil Stone ☎  19:02, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

I'd say in that event there's almost a certainty of him running into himself because he'll be inclined to do whatever the him of that day was planning to do. So you have two Jack Harknesses likely to act the same way, it's an instant recipe for confusion. DCT ☎  12:46, July 15, 2014 (UTC)