User talk:Skittles the hog

Cyberman continued
To answer questions you left yesterday, I think Dalekcaan14 is probably not expressing himself fully. Whatever is at the core of what he's trying to convey probably is true, because he's studied the scene too many times for him to be just making it up. That's why he needs to start a discussion on the page. As it was last worded in the history, I'm obviously with you and Revan: it doesn't make much sense. But, again, he made a good faith edit that, in its current wording, is incorrect. That's not vandalism.

As for the "not wanting him to voice his opinion" bit, well, I'm of course not saying that you ever prevented — or even threatened to prevent — him from talking. And you did a good thing by at least explaining to him why you were editing a substantial part of his contribution away. I suppose what I'm saying is that I haven't yet seen genuine discussion about his edits. It started well enough, with you enumerating why you didn't agree with what he wrote, but then that was sorta the end of it. You'd made up your mind and dug in, he was equally frustrated with you, and the perfect storm brewed for an edit war. There was never a phase where we got to ask questions like, "What do you mean, exactly?" and "Could you explain that point a little more?" And, believe me, I understand why the conversation didn't go on those lines. You totally believed the information was just junk — there wasn't any question of that in your mind — and so you were bending over backwards to leave him even that message. And 90% of the time, that would've been fine. If it was junk, the user who added it would've just rolled over and likely not responded to your explanation. But this time, Dalekcaan14 is just a little too determined to simply write off this stuff as "bad information">

In fact, he's posted to my page now, insisting again that his interpretation is right. Users who are intentionally putting bad information on a page don't do that, not after being reverted several times, then blocked. Somewhere in this paragraph is a truth that we can't see yet. I've encouraged him to start a proper discussion on the talk page, rather than these bilateral discussions on user talk pages. Hopefully he'll do it and we can ask the sort of questions that might shake his truth out of the trees. 12:47:10 Fri 15 Apr 2011