Talk:Fourteenth Doctor/Appearances

Creation?
Given the Fourteenth Doctor currently has only two appearances - The Power of the Doctor and whatever his DWM comic is, why is this page being made now? There's a "mentioned" and a video game that isn't a valid source - and as the comic hasn't been added yet there's only 1/2 appearances of this Doctor. This page was made very early and I don't see why. StevieGLiverpool ☎  00:55, 10 November 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure why it was made so early, but honestly, I doubt it is worth deleting as we know there are gonna be a lot more comic appearances soon, so it seems kinda pointless. 01:21, 10 November 2022 (UTC)


 * We indeed do, and should, in fact cover invalid sources on the “list of appearances” pages. I can give you that the “mention” isn’t worthy of it, but that’s all. It’s called a “list of appearances” because it is… well… a list of appearances, and as thus it should cover all the appearances of a certain character, whether they count in-universally or not. All other sites do just that. A “list of appearances” is not honest if it does not, and cannot, be honest in its coverage of a character's, or object's (for that matter), appearances in full, whether the content is valid or not. —Danniesen ☎  07:19, 10 November 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure this page falls under the "it's going to need to exist soon enough" rule, which I've seen OS12 use when creating certain categories. Not quite the same, since categories are about the rule of 3 and it's an admin specifically choosing to override a rule, but, you know, same basic principle. Najawin ☎  07:24, 10 November 2022 (UTC)


 * What's the policy regarding invalid sources? Because to my knowledge it's only valid source appearance in lists. Obviously if people, as seen above, have a problem with it that seems like a forum discussion to change policy, but I do believe that currently that's now how it goes. StevieGLiverpool ☎  21:16, 10 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Notice how Thirteenth Doctor - list of appearances wasn't created near her debut. We usually create these at around five/six appearances, and (without getting too much into spoilery territory) this won't be the case for Fourteen for a long while now.
 * Instead, by creating this right now, with only two appearances, we're forcing users to visit a second page where the infobox easily accomodates all the relevant information. I appreciate the concerns with Tardis:Rule of three and my occasional bending of it (a wiggle-room laid out on the policy page, no less!) but these are two different beasts. I only resort to that when the category in mind is the only one I can think of suitable for a page (which would otherwise be left with none, something not acceptable).
 * Anyway, tldr: I'm temporarily deleting this, and ask that this is only recreated if/when the Fourteenth Doctor has a minimum of five stories. Anything less is unnecessary and can be easily dealt with in the infobox. OncomingStorm12th ☎  17:33, 11 November 2022 (UTC)