Talk:Voice from the Vortex! (short story)

Alternate Timeline of the Ninth?
Might this be considered an alternate timeline of the Ninth Doctor? Not to say it is definitive, as the story doesn't give any specific evidence to support it, but he is featured on the cover and Rosie is clearly an allusion to Rose Tyler. Just curious
 * Just because it has contradictions doesn't make it an alternate timeline. For a similar example, consider Dr. Ninth, which shows that the Ninth Doctor was already traveling with Jack Harkness when he met Rose, but which is nonetheless completely valid. – N8  ( ☎ / 👁️ ) 04:07, April 27, 2020 (UTC)

Invalid?
Is this story valid or invalid? In other words, is it intended to take place somewhere in the DWU or an alternate timeline, or was it never meant to really be in the DWU in the first place? 10:41, October 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * This is apparently a parody, which makes it invalid per Tardis:Valid sources. If anyone familiar with the story disagrees that it's a parody, please state your evidence here. Shambala108 ☎  03:03, April 27, 2020 (UTC)
 * How is this "apparently" a parody? If every story that is slightly humorous in style is now a parody, countless Doctor Who episodes would be invalid (eg Bad Wolf which parodies reality TV at great length). Having read this story, it is clear that it, like A Mutual Friend and Dr. Who & the "Yeti", is a, against which there is no rule. – N8  ( ☎ / 👁️ ) 04:07, April 27, 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with the story, so that's why I used the word "apparently". My information comes from User:NightmareofEden's description at Talk:Dr. Who & the "Yeti" (comic story). Shambala108  ☎  04:17, April 27, 2020 (UTC)
 * I would call it a ‘parody’, but that’s just a question of semantics. It’s more in line with the stories N8 mentioned as well as Iris Wildthyme and the ones in Short Trips and Side Steps than Mind my Minions or even the relatively more grounded The Curse of Fatal Death. NightmareofEden ☎  04:23, April 27, 2020 (UTC)
 * I’d also call Trial of a Time Lord and The Greatest Show in the Galaxy “self-parodies” NightmareofEden ☎  04:26, April 27, 2020 (UTC)
 * The page has been placed in the category "Non-DWU short stories" by a user acting completely on their own and without a discussion. I have informed an admin, as my edits were simply reverted - despite me repeatedly telling them that a discussion / consensus was needed. DiSoRiEnTeD1 ☎
 * I'm not sure I understand. As seen from the edit history, this page was clearly made invalid by admin User:Shambala108. --Borisashton ☎  12:18, May 26, 2020 (UTC)
 * to clear up confusion, this page was tagged "invalid" but still remained in valid categories. DiSoRiEnTeD1 ☎
 * and did not have the "Non-DWU short stories" DiSoRiEnTeD1 ☎


 * So User:BananaClownMan performed standard maintenance on an article that needed work and you proclaim it "acting completely on their own and without discussion"? Could you explain, what is your issue here? --Borisashton ☎  12:25, May 26, 2020 (UTC)
 * the page was incorrectly tagged - as an invalid piece of work it should have been in the "Non-DWU short story" category. that is what i was looking for to deem if it was valid or not, as i had no idea that the "invalid" tag at the top of the page existed. it did not have this category and i could seen no resolution to the talkpage discussion either.


 * i also received no cooperation from User:BananaClownMan after i messaged him immediately after my initial edit. DiSoRiEnTeD1 ☎

I feel I should draw attention here to the closing comments made on the thread in which we declared Curse of Fatal Death to be valid. https://tardis.fandom.com/f/p/3775902294999041342/r/4400000000001603129

Perhaps I misspoke when I said "parody", but, in any case, I feel everything said on the topic of the dreaded P word there also applies here. NightmareofEden ☎  20:38, October 2, 2020 (UTC)


 * Let me get this straight: as far as I can tell, @BananaClownMan spuriously added an invalid template to this page without rationale, and now, this is being held as correct? On what grounds? And how can there be defense of this action due to the seeming status quo that's being enforced?


 * This story breaks none of the four little rules. It isn't a parody, the Doctor Who annual stories that this story is emulating are not invalid, so I believe the invalid tag should be summarily removed. 📯 📂 19:54, 29 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Hold on, @BananaClownMan's edit was actually reverted back in 2016.
 * And it was @Shambala108 who invalidated again... due to suspecting it was a parody, all because one user mispoke on another talk page..?


 * Surely that is not how we do things on the Wiki? One cannot just invalidate a story because they believe, without even having read, or researched into, the story in question because they think it may break a rule.


 * The form of practise that goes into the validity system is that we ask first, act later, not the other way around! Innocent until proven guilty. 📯 📂 23:04, 29 January 2022 (UTC)