User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-4028641-20170222073756/@comment-4028641-20170226031614

On the topic of purposefully leaving this thread open as we patiently wait for the next time a DWU character walks into a LEGO piece of media, I just don't think that's a reasonable request. The problem is we don't know how long that could be. It could be four months or five years -- both are equally believable.

On that note, no I don't think there's a rush to close the thread. However, I do think it's only going to get frustrating how little tips or quotes we really get.

I just recorded a video where me and a friend talk about the LEGO Batman movie for like 50 mins. We bring up that there are Daleks in it twice. There's less than 15 seconds that I had to say about the fact that there are Daleks in a movie I just saw. Despite the fact that we see this as the most important part of the film, to most people it's neither the most interesting or the most relevant. So the DVD might not even mention it more than once or twice, and I doubt they'll say "Oh it's canon/non-canon cool your jets."

The most we might get is someone saying "We get to play with some many characters from so many dimensions!" But in this debate, a quote like that would play to both sides. One side would say "The word play dictates that they're treating them as toys." Someone else will say "The use of the word Dimensions pretty much confirms everything."

If I had to close the debate now, I'd say that we should declare it valid based off of lack of evidence of it being invalid. Then we'd wait for the next time a film likes this features a DWU idea, and then we'd study and new ideas.

Some universes play off of the "LEGO" aspect, and some don't. Some franchises have explicitly made the series out to be non-canon (Portal) while Moffat has said that he won't deny people the right to call it canon (I know we hate the word "canon" but outside this site it's how people say "Set in the Universe"). Sometimes the franchise is being controlled by a kid in his over-rated Dad's basement, and sometimes it's a separate franchise directly connected to the Games products that came out before the LEGO Movie. Even if some worlds are being controlled by some kid sometimes, I doubt the creators of Lego Batman: The Videogame (2008) (a game retconned into the LEGO Movie multi-verse) would accept that idea. Plus, we don't know if that's how it actually works. Even the people running the franchise have no idea how the "rules" work yet.

We're in a grey area, but I think it leans closer to being valid. At this point I'm heavily biased tho.

It really is up to debate.