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User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-188432-20130129081336/@comment-26975268-20130402151737 Witoki wrote: More than his word, which he immediately claims is "impossible"? Yes.

It's not an impossibility that these Claras are the same person. But we cannot assume that death doesn't count until the show tells us it doesn't.

We're not "assuming" anything. The show has told us so far that they're the same person, that the Doctor doesn't understand how, and that they clearly somehow escaped death. That is exactly what fascinates the Doctor, what made him search for a third Clara. This is something new that he'd never encountered before. He wouldn't be interested if they weren't the same person. He's interested because he's seeing something that, even to his old eyes, seems "impossible." She goes against all his beliefs, but he doesn't ignore the facts.

Just the fact that the facts go against everything he knows is what's so intriguing for the Doctor.

"I never knew her name, her full name. Soufflé girl. Oswin. It was her. It was soufflé girl. Again. I never saw her face the first time, with the Daleks. But her voice. It was the same voice. The same woman, twice. And she died. Both times. The same woman!"

- Eleventh Doctor

This is what we're given, and nothing contradicts this so far.

Once again, facts:
 * Same woman, twice. Now three times.
 * She died both times.
 * She somehow still managed to appear in the next appearance/incarnation/life/whatever.

Yes, this goes against, instinct, against "common sense," but this is what we're given. You can't cite her death as a reason why she's different people when the Doctor clearly states that, yes, she died, and, yes, she's also the same woman. They obviously are both true without contradicting themselves.

It's our job to report what happens in the stories themselves, not what we can gather. You're already speculating when you're saying "Well since she died—"