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SmallerOnTheOutside wrote: Also, your "they broke the fourth wall" accusation doesn't hold much water if we continue to cover things like Music of the Spheres, the ultimate fourth wall destroyer. I mean, that fourth wall didnt just break — it imploded! Nah, Music of the Spheres doesn't break the fourth wall at all — unless you were one of the audience members in the Royal Albert Hall on the day. People have always misunderstood that one. I think the issue is that the BBC released Music of the Spheres initially as just the bit in the TARDIS, never allowing you to see the bit of the Graske at the RAH.

To the audience at home, there's no fourth wall breakage at all, because you're watching Ten talking to the Royal Albert Hall audience, and then the Graske messing with the orchestra. In other words, the RAH becomes a part of the narrative. You've gotta see the piece in context to judge it fairly.

There is a reason that this wiki appends (TV story) to Music of the Spheres. We view it as the thing broadcast by BBC One, not the webcast — because that's the version that lets you see the interaction with the RAH, and therefore does not break the fourth wall.