Talk:Blue Peter special (TV story)

Rename & invalidity?
Where are we getting Stuck in the Land of Fiction? That has a whiff of a fan-made title about it.

Conversely, however, when our lead proclaims that "it's in-universe and has a narrative", and that it only seems that the Doctor is talking to the viewer… why is this classed invalid, anyway? Scrooge MacDuck ☎  11:38, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Re. the title... I can't find any source on it. It's certainly not listed in DWMSE 33, which is the most comprehensive piece I can think of on the competition as a whole. So, I'm skeptical of that too.
 * However, as an aside - we do have a complication to deal with. DWMSE 33 does detail that there are actually two versions of this minisode - a 51 second version that was filmed for and did air on Blue Peter, and a longer 2 minute version that instead was made for and put out on BBC websites including BBC Schools. The page currently takes a Blue Peter-centric approach, and has been provisionally named as such, but it seems perhaps that it should be instead focused around the web version with the Blue Peter version listed as an alternate?


 * Re. the validity... The two-minute web wersion does have an in-universe narrative of 11 sending a message to the world, urging primary school kids to think of an adventure to free him from the Land of Fiction. But it also has him acknowledging that the previous competition existed (the one that was introduced during a Confidential, I believe) and that it resulted in Death is the Only Answer... And the 51 second version, well, I can't find that anywhere to make a judgement on it.

JDPManjoume ☎  12:29, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Aren't stories allowed to make reference to invalid stories without being made invalid themselves? Cookieboy 2005 ☎  11:39, 6 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Indeed - and the existence of the previous script competition isn't even a fact from an invalid story, it's just a fact from the real world. Given the Land of Fiction context, metafictional shenanigans are only to be expected and shouldn't be held as evidence of a Rule 4 breach. I'm removing the tag. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 18:42, 10 March 2023 (UTC)