User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Tales from the Tardis/@comment-188432-20131126205522/@comment-188432-20131127003519

Jdg98 wrote: Whereas I agree with the thread, I do suggest you change phrases such as "his tenth regeneration" (referring to Ten turning into Eleven - as in, the event itself), as it is definitely the eleventh time he's regenerated. Until 4 days ago, Tennant —> Smith was the tenth regeneration of the Doctor, (Meta-Crisis Tenth Doctor notwithstanding.)

It was well established by The Five Doctors that:


 * regeneration number = Doctor's number - 1

Terrance Dicks makes the point at least a coupla different ways between the episode and the novelisation. In the book, he puts it especially plainly: the Third Doctor tells Tegan that he's the second regeneration and therefore the third Doctor.

By that logic, someone claiming to be the Eleventh Doctor is the tenth regeneration.

So we haven't been in error to follow Dicks' lead on this one. What I think Jdg98 is saying is that in the wake of Day, we need to change how we handle the regeneration number of BBC Wales Doctors.

I urge, as I always do in these situations, for more clarity. Before we start ripping up the wiki, let's make sure there's not a narrative explanation. At the very least, let's wait until Christmas and see if we have any further narrative discussion of the issue.

At this point, I think you can construct a successful argument that the Eleventh Doctor is the tenth regeneration of the Time Lord known as the Doctor. The degree to which he was known as the Doctor is certainly debatable, especially because he didn't consider himself the Doctor except for one moment in time that was then taken away from him.