User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-1783865-20200302103744/@comment-6032121-20200302164401

Tangerineduel wrote: I think anything that may need to be merged together like the Shobogan and Shobogan (species) or Timeless Child's species and The Doctor's species needs a merge tag on one or a separate discussion thread. (There's likely others) Hard disagree on both counts. Shobogans as defined in preexisting EU media and the species that Chibnall decided to call "Shobogans" are completely different things, save for both existing on Gallifrey in completely different periods of history. Trying to cover them both on the same page would just be confusing. The pre-Timeless-Child Shobogans, the species, have less to do with the subgroup of Outsiders than the humanoid Daleks have to do with the Daleks as we know them — and yet these already get different pages. Shobogans-as-ancient-species and Shobogans-as-unruly-modern-day-faction are two different DWU concepts sharing a name.

And The Doctor's species has nothing whatsoever to do with Timeless Child's species. The latter is the page about the unnamed species featured in The Timeless Children, whereas the former is a hub page to discuss all the conflicting accounts of the Doctor's species at more length than we could on the already-gargantuan The Doctor page — it's along the lines of The Doctor's age and The Doctor's early life like that. The specific species covered at "Timeless Child's species" is one of the competing species listed at The Doctor's species, to put it more simply.