Howling:Who is the voice during events of the Pandorica opens and the Big Bang?

Who is the voice during events in the series finale in season five?

During events of The Pandorica Opens and The Big Bang,a voice is suddenly appeared out of nowhere telling the silence is falling.I think the voice is possibly Valeyard or his own alias,The Dream Lord.I'm speculating this because everyone fully aware of Valeyard's cunning skill and he maybe engineered this incident to get back on the Doctor.Or,this actually implied a catastrophic events that would eventually see our beloved Doctor fall to the dark side and becoming Valeyard.

If so,then everything will change and do not be surprised that the Doctor allied himself with his kind,Timelord or worse,the Master.The voice itself is actually a warning about the impending event that could not be altered unless a twist during the course of the Last Great Time War.

08:18, November 6, 2010 (UTC)180.73.162.247

It was one of the Silence, apparently. As for what they plan to do? Well, they plan to bring silence, whatever that means. Silence will fall... quite literally. The Vampires of Venice and the end of The Pandorica Opens make that clear: there will be silence. Delton Menace 01:05, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

It is clear that whatever it is wants silence. However, there is no reason to believe that it itself is called the silence or that it comes from a people called the silence, or even that there are others like it. It is also possible that the silence just refers to the erasure of the universe at the end of The Pandorica Opens, and whoever the voice is will want something different in his next appearence. It probably isn't the Valeyard, because the Master said that he will be created in between the Doctor's twelfth and final incarnations, so it is still too early. The voice sounds more like Davros than anything, but they probably won't bring him back so soon after Journey's End. My guess is that the voice is the Black Guardian, because he is probably the best recurring villain from the classic series who hasn't been reintroduced yet, and he would definetly be capable of destroying the TARDIS.Icecreamdif 22:36, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

The Valeyard speculation is likely untrue. They can't pull the "evil personality" card again for a while now. (DW: Amy's Choice) Unless there trying to link it somehow, very unlikely. I think the silence will a unique and new thing.--Skittles the hog 07:50, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

Nah it can't be something new to anti-climatic. It would be like "Hello Doctor" "Who Are You?" "The Silence" "oh". Its probably an allie of the doctor or someone like daveros. Then it would be like this "Silence has fallen""Its You!". Now whats better?Joshoedit 04:50, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

Who the Silence conisists of is currently unknown (Moffat has actually referred to it as a group on occasion), it could be Omega, Rassilion and the other Time Lords, or someone else. Could be the Pantheon of Discord for all we know. (Please don't say the Rani, it ain't happening). Could even be the Beast. Could be is the key term here. We don't know,and given that it's Moffat who is doing it, a new villan strikes me as likely. We'll just have to guess and wait and see. And as for a new villian being anti-climatic...how do you think all the old classic villans came about? - '' I. Am. Excalibur-117 '' -(talk • contribs) 08:31, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

the 'silence' will be something new, think about it so far the big bads of every season has been an old enemy brought back, with hardly any build up. this time moffat has used the whole series 5 as a build and introduction to the silence, if it was an old enemy he could have just finished it all in one season, but insead he is building it up across multiple seasons, it will be very dissapointing if at the end of all of the build up it ends up beeing davros, the time lords something we have seen before, its going to be something completely new that moffat wants to turn into a new evil thats over all others hence this story arc lasting over more than 1 series there woul;d be no need if it was an old enemy as we already know who they are 217.23.232.194 10:17, November 18, 2010 (UTC) It isn't going to be a new enemy. He can't spend this much time building up to an enemy that noone has ever heard of. He will probably bring back a classic enemy that hasn't been in the new series yet. No villain has ever had this kind of buildup for their first appearance.

^Facepalm to the above post. You want unoriginality and fanwank. I'm pretty sure Moffat confirmed somewhere recently that we're going to be introduced to a new threat that is the Silence, which as we know, are a they. Comes as no surprise, as Moffat has never had old enemies as villains, only his own new creations. Good on him. Before you mentioned The Pandorica Opens, that was loads of cameos - and they weren't as villains, they wanted to save the universe from the Doctor (with it looking like he was responsible for the cracks). Delton Menace 09:43, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Delton Menace, you are a hyppocite. You complain about fanwank all the time, but you spent a long time talking about the return of the Beast. Every single finale, including Moffat's, has featured the return of a classic villain. And, we don't know that the silence is a "they." Literally, all we know about it is that it blew up the TARDIS, and said "silence will fall." We don't even know if it is called the silence, only that it wants silence. The villain could be a group, it could be a group of classic villains, it can be a group of new villains, it can be a single new villain, it can be a single classic villain. From what we know about it, it could be almost anything. Based on the trend of every season, including Moffat's season though, we should assume that it is not something new, which would be very anti-climactic.205.222.248.208 17:41, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

There is a huge line between bring back someone who has been back time and time again, and bringing back anything ambitious and only featured once. Plus, Steven Moffat has confirmed that the Silence is a they more than once. We new as far ba as confidential when he said series 6 is about "Who are the Silence?" and last month said series 6 will be about the silence and "who they are."

Also: Russell T Davies. He wrote every finale except for the series 5 finale - the first finale to have no returning major villain or anything to do with the Time War. You really don't get about the spoilers, do you? We now know more than was was learnt in the finale from interviews with him. There was no villains in his finale, let alone a big bad. There aliens and the kitchen sink that turned up were trying to save the universe, viewing the Doctor as the enemy. If they knew about the Silence being behind the cracks, they would have set their differences aside.

Moffat has also made clear that the series is changing - no more Time War angst, no companions back every other episode, all of that. The only thing remaining if the one-Dalek-story-a-series (though whether there will be any in series 6 is 50/50) and bring back an old alien race that hasn't come back yet. He is well-known to only have proper villains be his own creation (gas mask zombies, clockwork robots, Weeping Angels, shadows, Atraxi, Prisoner Zero, Smilers, and the Silence). They weren't even as villains in the one story with non-Moffat creations, they were concerned for the universe and featured as cameos. Plus, he has made fairly clear that we're getting a new threat. Unlike seemingly you, I search to the core for all new info he gives. Delton Menace 09:56, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

No need to be so hostile. I was just offering a different theory to yours. Even if the "silence" is a they, it can still be something that has been seen before. There wouldn't be any "reason" to ask "who are the silence," if nobody could possibly guess. Moffat may say that the series is changing, but he hasn't really lived up to that. People thought that with Moffat the entire universe wouldn't be in danger in every finale anymore, but Moffat actually destroyed the universe in his first finale. Also, the only time that Davies brought back classic enemies was in the finales, which is also the only time that Moffat has done it. It is possible that the silence will be a new enemy, but I doubt it.