Forum:Starkey's parents and the end of time for K9 series 2

In TV: Oroborus, Professor Gryffen shows Starkey an image of two people he believes are Starkey's parents. Unfortunately, I can't quite make out what Gryffen says their names are. It's "Charles and Marie"... something. Possibly "Sobol"? Alas, the K9 DVDs don't have subtitles. Can anyone else make it out? It's an important detail to add to Starkey, but I don't want to enter something I misheard. —Josiah Rowe talk to me 04:06, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, in a way I wish you hadn't advanced your theory of what you thought the last name was, because it may be influencing what I'm hearing. But my gut reaction when I heard it the first time was "Sobol".  Then as I played it back a few times, even with the playback rate slowed down, I kept hearing that.  So I'm gonna assume it is Sobol.  But again you kinda influenced me to hypothesise that it was Sobol, and I may only be reporting that "it sounds like Sobol" rather than, "Oh yeah, it's Sobol".


 * Of course, since it's increasingly looking like there won't be more K9TV, it's not actually an important detail. it's just a detail now. The chances of anyone actually picking up that narrative thread and working it into a story are probably close to nil at this point. The K9TV "franchise" certainly appears to be dead — and even if it comes back in some form, the kids are too old to likely be a part of it. 12:27: Sun 03 Jun 2012


 * Well, it's a detail in the larger scope of things, but I'd still say that it's an important detail for the (perhaps not that important) article Starkey. If you think it sounds like "Sobol", I think we can go with that, at least until The Complete Book of K9 or The K9 Storybook materialize (for which I'm not holding my breath). It does seem that K9TV has returned to — frankly, it's fairly astounding that it even got out of development hell for one year, it had spent so long there.


 * On that subject, at what point should we acknowledge reality at Series 2 (K9)? The official word on the "K9 OFFICIAL" Facebook page is that they're still working on the financing, though as you suggest the longer it goes the less likely that seems. Stewart & Wall Entertainment have scrubbed their website, with just a note saying "Exciting new developments - coming soon" left. What do you think is the best way to acknowledge that the prospects for another series of K9 are beginning to look slim? —Josiah Rowe talk to me 04:39, June 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm calling time.


 * In Australian kids TV, gaps of over a year between series aren't uncommon (and actually, it's not just kids TV that runs so sporadically). You do have to be a bit more patient with Ozzie TV because the money's just not there.  Multi-year gaps happen.  The longest gap of which I'm aware is the three year interval between the first episode and last episode of the two series of.


 * So I'm going to invoke the "Elephant Princess rule" and say that it's time to delete Series 2 (K9). There's no way they're going to have even the first episode of "series 2" ready by the three-year anniversary of the first broadcast of Regeneration — namely, Halloween 2012.  This show is dead.  If Baker and Metal Mutt Productions are able to get any more life out of the K9 character, the reality is that it probably won't be with this cast, so there's significant doubt whether it will materially be the same show. 17:55: Fri 08 Jun 2012


 * This ruling is unaffected by Paul Tams sliver of news today. At this point, too much time has elapsed to believe that it's really the second series.  Tams' news indicates different production partners, different K9 model, and greater writing involvement by Baker.  Tam's comments on the model change were really interesting, because he says the model is being changed away from Disney-requested elements.  Since Disney were the ones that changed the original space-faring concept into the 2050 "family on Earth" concept, the absence of Disney for series 2 makes the basic setting and concept up for grabs.  Tams' entire announcement today points to a lack of continuity with series 1.  It would be frankly incredible if, four years after the fact, we got a true followup to the first series.  So the series 2 article will remain deleted until the show actually debuts. 13:47: Wed 13 Jun 2012