User talk:Danniesen

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Daleks' Master Plan
Hi! I have temporarily removed your edit from The Impossible Astronaut (TV story) because I would like to know a bit more about the source of your edit. Please tell me which specific episode of The Daleks' Master Plan (TV story) has the First Doctor commenting about Stetsons and having one shot off his head, and if possible I'd like a little more detail about the scene. Thanks. Shambala108 ☎  22:05, September 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * I am not quite sure, I can't find them on the Internet to freely watch anymore. It just seems like everything I hear from everywhere is that the First Doctor has said this or a similar line. And The Impossible Astronaut matches this. But I'm sorry but I can't find it anymore. --DCLM ☎  07:05, September 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * One of the basic rules of this wiki is that any material in an in-universe article must be properly sourced with a valid source. If you remembered seeing/hearing something like this in one of the episodes, that could be sourced to the episode. But reading other people's comments on the internet is not considered a valid source — it's always best to verify information yourself before adding it in. The internet is wildly unreliable. Having seen the available 3 episodes (more than once) and listened to the audio of the entire story, I am reasonably sure the First Doctor says no such thing. In addition, if he had said it, someone more familiar with the story than us would have surely added that information by now.


 * In short, it's best to be familiar with the story material when you add information. For now, we won't add it back unless/until someone can verify it. Thanks. Shambala108 ☎  14:32, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

Images
Hi! Please read through our image policies, which you can find at Thread:148148. The images you uploaded today, while having the correct license and the correct format, were way too big in width for our wiki's use. You can find all our image guidelines at the thread link I posted. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎  16:16, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, hi again... Thanks. That was my bad sorry. --DCLM ☎  16:52, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * I looked through the guidelines and I seem to be unable to find anything about how to control the size of the image. Perhaps it doesn't say so, or maybe I just couldn't find it. --DCLM ☎  16:59, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Forum posts at Thread 164874
Hi! Based on some of your recent posts at Thread:164874, I feel like I have to point you to a couple of our most important policies.

Please take some time to read through Tardis:Spoiler policy. As you can see, we don't allow any spoilers, anywhere (with two exceptions). That includes story titles, which you posted in Thread:164874 and User:Skittles the hog has since removed.

More importantly, please read through Tardis:No personal attacks. It stresses that we want everyone to feel welcome on this wiki. Telling someone to leave may not be considered an actual attack, but it's pretty close. Skittles the Hog has been extremely patient with you in this matter; in the past people have been blocked for similar behavior.

I certainly understand your frustration with the back and forth edits regarding Missy/the Master. Just keep in mind that many new users don't even know the forums exist; pointing them in that direction, whether in edit summaries or posts on their talk pages, is probably the best way to handle things. Thanks for your attention. Shambala108 ☎  18:02, November 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * About the thing with the title I mentioned, yeah I know that there's a no spoiler-policy, and I should have said next episode. Very sorry, my bad. It was a mind-slip that one, I didn't realize I was spoiling, I just wrote a reply and didn't think further about it. Sorry.


 * And about the thing I said to that user, I'm sorry about that too, I just meant the thread itself as he seemed like he was only going to say that we "denied". Sorry again. --DCLM ☎  19:17, November 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * But I would like to know what you mean by extremely patient on the matter. I have never (before that on the thread apparently) said something attack-worthy to anyone (not that I remember). --DCLM ☎  19:22, November 4, 2014 (UTC)

Real world
Hi! Please take the time to read through Tardis:In-universe perspective and T:NO RW. Several of your recent edits violate our policies regarding info that comes from the real world and its place in the DWU. To put it in a nutshell, if it's not stated in a story, it doesn't go on the page. Thanks. Shambala108 ☎  02:29, December 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * I did. And I understand now. --DCLM ☎  02:31, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

Facebook
Hi! Please re-write your edits at Facebook into the past tense, as is required for all in universe articles. Thanks. Shambala108 ☎  00:26, December 29, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, of course. That was me forgetting it. --DCLM ☎  17:50, December 29, 2014 (UTC)

Re: image size
Hi! In the majority of cases, we don't change the sizes of images that are placed on articles. Shambala108 ☎  03:50, December 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oops sorry for the misunderstanding. If you take a look at Help:Photos, it might be able to answer your question. Shambala108 ☎  15:33, December 30, 2014 (UTC)

Re: wiki help
Sorry about that. If something similar happens in the future, and it affects all wikis you try, then you'd probably need to post a message on the main wikia help area, and if it only affects this wiki, you can post a message at Board:The Drax Cave. Shambala108 ☎  15:06, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Series 9 page
Hi! Please be careful not to post spoilers in your edit summaries. Please familiarize yourself with Tardis:Spoiler policy. Thanks. Shambala108 ☎  05:32, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Videos
Hi! Please note that, per Tardis:Video policy, only admins are permitted to upload videos to this wiki. If you would like to recommend a video for uploading, you may do so at Tardis:Video recommendations. Thanks. Shambala108 ☎  18:37, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

Re: leaked episode
Hi! Leaked information is not allowed anywhere on the wiki. Without giving away any spoilery information, could you give me a couple of details? Specifically, I need to know the episode number or date of airing of the episode leaked. And is the entire episode leaked? Just a portion? Thanks! Shambala108 ☎  20:06, August 16, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Moffat's previews
Thanks for the heads-up. I don't really follow the current series so it help to have someone giving me updates.

BTW, if you have something you want to add at Series 9 (Doctor Who) (which I've locked due to the leaks you mentioned), just post it at Howling:The Howling and then drop me a note to head over there and I'll add it to the page. Shambala108 ☎  22:17, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

Howling posts
Hi! If possible, when you post something on the Howling for the series 9 page, I'd prefer if you could post your info at the Howling in the exact format you want it on the series 9 page (so that I can just copy and paste), and leave a note in the post where you want the information located (for example, lead, cast/crew, rumors, etc). You have far more experience in editing this page than I do, and you have a clear idea of where you want the information. It would make it easier for me, and would reflect what you want much better. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎  18:26, August 19, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey, I just wanted to let you know I didn't ignore your post about temporarily un-protecting the series 9 page; I was just trying to decide whether to do it and how it would work. But then today I remembered (stupid me) that I can protect the page against new and unregistered users but allow admins and established users. So you should be able to use it. If you could give it a try and let me know if it works, that would save us both a lot of work. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎  20:40, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Video links
Hi! I just wanted to let you know that, per Tardis:Video policy, we don't allow links to off-site videos. I had to remove the link you posted at Talk:Ohila and Talk:Prologue (webcast), but you can recommend the video be uploaded at Tardis:Video recommendations and then post it on those talk pages once an admin uploads it. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎  01:20, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Page moves
Hi! Please note that, per Thread:128198, only admins are permitted to move pages. See the thread for the reasons and the procedures. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎  17:08, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Questions
Yeah, I understand that any image is from the episode is fine to be used on the wikia, I'm just saying that as this is a twist to make you watch the next episode, it is not the most representative example of the episode and thus is not the image we should use the infobox. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 19:42, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Why did you revert my edit? The episode was already over when I began editing.

Plagiarism
Hi! Please don't add material from other websites to this wiki. As stated in Tardis:Plagiarism, we only want original material on this wiki. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎  21:44, September 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * We only want user-created material on the wiki. The synopsis copied from the BBC website does not count. A synopsis, if I recall CzechOut's definition correctly, is about three sentences summing up what the episode is about. But it has to be original material. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎  22:00, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Ponding
It's pretty straightforward: only stories count. We don't even allow RTD's comments about Rose and Ten, or the identity of The Woman, the Jack/Face of Boe situation, etc. And he was the storyrunner of the show. Gillan's comments are just her opinion, and even if Moffat agreed with her, the only way we would include it is if it was mentioned in a story. Hope this helps! Shambala108 ☎  23:16, September 30, 2015 (UTC)

Claims
It's a basic tenet of fiction that people can say things which aren't true. It doesn't matter whether it might be true, there is the possibility that it isn't. Claim is the proper word to use on this wiki, and when formally quoting someone in speech anywhere. I feel that you misunderstand the word, not me. If we could speculate that everything the Doctor says was true, then we would be going against everything this wiki stands for. RogerAckroydLives ☎  10:59, October 11, 2015 (UTC)


 * One can lie to oneself as easily as one can to anyone else. He is making a reference, whether to a real event or a fiction is unknown. RogerAckroydLives ☎  11:11, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Re: admin help
Hi! I will look into it a bit later when I have more free time later today. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎  14:19, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Re: use of "claim"
(Please note that I am leaving the same message at both User talk:Danniesen and User talk:RogerAckroydLives, just to save myself a bit of work.)

Looking over the messages on your talk pages, I think I have to side with Danniesen on this one. While the use of the word "claim" may be grammatically correct, it does have a connotation that the person doing the claiming may not be telling the truth. If you look at Tardis:Neutral point of view, you'll see that we try not to make value judgments about characters and their actions (we don't even call the Master or the Daleks "evil" unless we're attributing it to the Doctor or someone else). Therefore, to preserve an air of neutrality, I suggest the words "said" or "stated" as alternatives. Or in the specific example mentioned, that of Shirley Bassey, you could put in the references section something like "The Doctor mentioned Shirley Bassey", link to Bassey, and when the article is created a neutral explanation of the mention could be given. Hope this helps sort the issue out. Shambala108 ☎  23:40, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Apology
No worries at all. I'm sure I've made similar such mistakes that other users have been at pains to fix. Hopefully we can leave this all behind us and continue to edit together to help strengthen this wiki.

Best wishes, RogerAckroydLives ☎  08:31, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Another Apology
Danniesen, I am sorry for creating the LEGO Dimensions pages. I did not know there was a discussion about it. I will keep that in mind. :) CybermanFan ☎  17:58, October 17, 2015 (UTC)CybermanFanCybermanFan  ☎  17:58, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

T:OFF REL
For future reference, the rule is actually that we wait for the top or bottom of the hour, so the creation of the article for The Girl Who Died was allowed.
 * If the admins are saying always top, then no offence to them, but they need to review their own rules. T:OFF REL clearly says "you should wait, out of an abundance of caution, until the top or bottom of the hour after the end credits roll" and "The latest episode of Doctor Who is set to end its first BBC One airing at 1915. You cannot start editing the article about that episode until the bottom of the hour, or 1930." If they want it to always be top of the hour they'll need to rewrite that part of the page.


 * To be clear, the policy is that we wait until an episode has finished airing entirely, then for safety's sake we wait until the nearest top or bottom of the hour after the episode is finished airing. I have said "top" in the past, but if I recall correctly, it was only for The Magician's Apprentice. As an American, I usually have no idea what time the show starts/finishes, and then I have to do the math to convert to my time zone. It's easier to say top of hour in the one (or two) case that I used that phrase. Sorry for the confusion. Shambala108 ☎  23:50, October 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think the best way to explain would be to use a hypothetical example: say an episode starts at 4:30pm, lasts about 40 minutes and ends at 5:10. Then you could start to create/edit at 5:30 instead of having to wait until 6:00. If that makes sense then I might add that to the policy page to make it more clear. (FWIW, I can't think of any show I watch on American TV that has different start times from week to week, which makes this show particularly difficult to figure out.) Shambala108 ☎  00:01, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Quotation marks
The quotation marks show up in the lead, and there is a template that can show the title of an article with quotation marks, but we don't usually create character pages with the quote marks as part of the name. Try searching "The Doctor" and you'll see it won't take you to The Doctor. Shambala108 ☎  00:24, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

the quantum shade is NOT "they"
They is a completely different force. the quantum shade is just a tool used to kill people. "they" is the thing that put ashildir up to all this. i made the mistake of thinking the shade is "they" but please see sense All Hail Aslan ☎  17:52, November 22, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey; just in response to your comments at User talk:NarnianAslan1: you cannot simultaneously claim "you need to speak to me properly", then adopt such a disproportionately antagonistic tone. Nothing in the preceding post is offensive, and to suggest he was trying to ridicule you is, quite frankly, bizarre. The tone is, to my mind, amiable - I mean, come on, the guy said please.-- 20:34, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't. I summed up what he did on the page, andhe actually did speak in less than nice tone in the end. Your focus is on that one word only, but I look at the whole "see sense"-thing. Not a very nice thing to say actually. I mean, would you like that I told you "please do see sense, because what I say makes sense, yours doesn't"? Using the word "please" doesn't always make up for saying a less nice thing to a person. --DCLM ☎  21:25, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

Obviously I don't think saying please negates any wrong doing, and I don't imagine for a second that that is your reading of my post. I see the phrase as a whole and it's not offensive. As to your question, I personally wouldn't be give a damn if someone asked me to see sense. It's an appeal, not an insult. The version you post - "because what I say makes sense, yours doesn't" - is a cynical extrapolation. That's not what he said. There is no malicious intent in his post, where yours is palpably hostile. I don't want to blow this out of proportion. I'm merely suggesting you adopt a less harsh tone, especially when it is so unnecessary. Take that how you will.-- 21:47, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well... Obviously it wasn't his intent to offend, and I'm not saying for a moment that it was, but I just felt it was some kind of attack. Even if it wasn't. --DCLM ☎  21:57, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

The General Talk Page Apology
I didn't intentionally delete your comment. In fact, when I first started typing my response, yours wasn't there yet. My guess is that some kind of glitch occurred that deleted your comment when I put in mine. This has happened to me on other pages, with instances that either completely screwed up a page or deleting portions of it. Regardless, it was still in my edit that this occurred, so I apologize anyway for it. --DarkXaven ☎  21:18, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

Series 10 and Cultbox
Hi. I just cleaned out the Series 10 (Doctor Who) page, and as you are a major contributor to that article, I thought I should explain why I removed what I did. Most of it hinges on T:RW SRC, which I highly suggest you read; it's not very long. Basically, Cultbox is not a source we can use. Having looked through their articles, they are mainly either a rewrite of information from an official source like the BBC, or based on dubious tweets of filming photos or the like. In the former situation, we should just cite the original source, and in the latter, we shouldn't include the information at all as it's unverifiable. 18:37, August 14, 2016 (UTC)

Encyclopedic
Yeah, I probably should have linked to a policy on that one. I'm speaking mostly to Tardis:In-universe perspective, specifically:


 * 1) Use past tense for in-universe portions of articles
 * 2) Write from the perspective of a neutral observer who has access to all known facts about your topic. You, the writer of the article, are omniscient, even though the subject of your article is not.

Regarding the first, instead of saying, "The TARDIS arrives", say "The TARDIS arrived." Regarding the second, the article read like a plot summary and didn't even mention its subject, the goodbye party. Articles should be focused on their subjects, and state the facts as we know them clearly. You don't have to say the Doctor gave Ohila a "golden disk", because we know that it's the confession dial. Also, there was way, way too much detail that was irrelevant to the actual subject: the goodbye party.

Finally, articles should never start with "once upon a time". Tardis:Leads has more on the beginning sections of articles.

One last tip: when you're starting an article from scratch, it's good to have a template to work off. Farewell tour is pretty similar and a good example of in-universe writing style, if a bit wordy. 16:57, September 10, 2016 (UTC)

Class (series 1) page
Why did you undo my edit on the Series 1 (Class) page? It had a trustable source (which was cited right after the information). OncomingStorm12th ☎  18:13, September 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * Where does the info that http://www.doctorwho.tv/ is not an valid source? At Tardis:Valid sources, the only site whose title was close to doctorwho.tv I could find was http://www.doctorwhonews.net/ (a completly different site). I agree DWnews is not a valid source, but given DW.tv is a BBC-licensed (and edited by them as well) there is no reason to discredit it.


 * The thing is, were still talking about two different websites. You're talking about http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/, a fan site. I'm talking about http://www.doctorwho.tv/, a BBC Worldwide site. Check the links and you see the're not the same site (despite the similar url) OncomingStorm12th ☎  19:09, September 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, User:Shambala108 (him/her)self edited the info I added and the only changes made was removing the links. Therefore, I'd assume it quite fites there. Additionally, links to which stories take places during which season are left. For example: The Blood Cell isn't an TV episode, but still, it is linked on the Series 8 (Doctor Who) page. For now, I believe it's better to leave it there as it is, given the books are meant to be set right after the season. OncomingStorm12th ☎  19:26, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

Doctorwho.tv
Just a quick note: doctorwho.tv is from the BBC, doctorwhotv.co.uk is a fan site. 19:10, September 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * Oops, looks like somebody else got there first. :) 19:11, September 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * Just checked. Seems like I got them mixed up as being the same one. Thanks. :) --DCLM ☎  19:15, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

Page moves 2
Hi! Please remember, as I stated above, that only admins are permitted to move pages. Thanks. Shambala108 ☎  00:30, October 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * As User:CzechOut is the author of the thread and the most technically-able admin on the wiki, you might want to bring it up with him. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎  00:00, October 24, 2016 (UTC)

broadcast
To answer your question, I know when things broadcast in the UK because I know what broadcast means in English. Programs are not broadcast on iPlayer: they are streamed or made available for download. Programs are broadcast on TV. As I already explained there, my statement meant that the episode is only broadcast, or aired, or shown on TV in the evening. I was asking for a confirmation that it has already been made available for streaming/download. I thanked you for confirming that. And I thank you now for suggesting a way to check the streaming availability times for iPlayer from outside the UK. I was not aware of this and did not try as BBC took special measures to repel people from outside the UK recently. But there is no point polluting that page with this discussion. It's off topic there. Amorkuz ☎  13:05, October 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * I know what "broadcast" means too, and I did of course mean "streaming". Thank you for pointing that out. I didn't mean to make it seem that I didn't know it. I do. Sorry, if it confused you. And you are welcome. No, I know that discussion was irrelevant on that page. :) --DCLM ☎  13:16, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Apologies
Hey, I have to apologize for accidentally blocking you earlier. I was trying to block someone else, whose talk page you had left a message on, and I clicked on your name by mistake. I realized my mistake pretty quickly and unblocked you, so hopefully it didn't even affect you. Sorry for my mistake. Shambala108 ☎  23:42, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

The Metaphysical Edit Conflict
Ah, so it was just an edit conflict. Always best to check what's been changed before hitting send again when it tells you the page has been edited. 00:31, November 28, 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, still a teeny bit confused about what happened. But far more importantly: you keep on accidentally removing all the categories. Now sure why, or how, but you should be aware. 00:33, November 28, 2016 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I don't know how the categories went kaput, but they seem to have done so twice on that page, both on your edits. My only theory is that you encountered an edit conflict, and copied over your own text from the bottom, without realising the categories weren't still in the little box on the right, at the top. Does that happen? I know the opposite does. 07:02, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

S10 episode titles source
The source given is the latest DWM, DWM 511. Just because no one has made a page for it yet doesn't mean it "doesn't exist". NateBumber ☎  16:52, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Here's a pic. NateBumber ☎  16:55, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * High, sorry to interject, but knowing rules is important for me. I am not aware of the rule prohibiting to use an otherwise valid source just because it hasn't been wikified yet. I would appreciate a link to this rule as a confirmation. Such a rule would be rather harmful, which makes me doubt its existence. Such a rule would simply create an additional barrier for adding information to the Wiki, while simultaneously providing no benefit to the verifiability of information. If the page exists, it does not mean that the necessary information is present on it. So a third party is in exactly the same position verification-wise whether the page exists or not. Anyway, I'd appreciate a confirmation of this rule. Amorkuz ☎  17:55, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree with Dan's decision to remove the information. I undid his edit once as I was sure that the info had sources in place, however I later discovered that they did not. Xx-connor-xX ☎  18:15, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * I second Amorkuz's objection: there shouldn't be anything wrong with citing a redlink. It would be pointlessly exclusionary if we didn't allow stories or sources to be cited on this wiki until pages were created for them. As it happens, I'm not going to make a page for DWM 511, but I don't think that should mean that our page on series 10 shouldn't have the most up-to-date information. (As for citing the picture ... that'd set terrible precedent, with all the nonsense rumors floating around in twitter pictures.) If there is a rule specifying this, I'll take it all back, but until then, I don't think this should even be a consideration. NateBumber ☎  18:42, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * But doesn't it violate "Assume good faith" principle from T:NPA? Danniesen stated himself that he knew the magazine did exist at the time of posting. There are plenty of red links on this wiki, even for things published long ago. Shouldn't we assume in good faith, when somebody posts about a source that would definitely get a page sooner or later that they own the source at hand and post valuable information from it? I myself enjoy very much posting a scoop, i.e., being the first to find out and post information. In many cases, such information is more important than anything that would be eventually added to the page of the source. So there is no point in making the page for the source first. Plus, there are so many red links on this wiki, take 3D 1, for instance. Should we delete everything on COMIC: The Heralds of Destruction because nobody made pages for the comic issues they were printed in? Amorkuz ☎  18:57, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

The Saviour of Time
Hey :) Thanks for your recent edits surrounding this (nominal) game, but please remember that it is not a valid source. In general, this means that content about it should be placed on the page The Saviour of Time (video game) in the references section, rather than having pages created about it. (Occasionally, we do allow some pages about characters from invalid sources, if they're particularly noteworthy -- but we don't generally allow pages on relatively minor objects or concepts, such as the page you created about emergency mode.)

Also, content from the game about, say, Mercury absolutely shouldn't be on the page Mercury. Or Twelfth Doctor on Twelfth Doctor. Or Bill on Bill Potts.

Thanks! 21:54: Fri 05 May 2017
 * Got it. :) --DCLM ☎  22:35, May 5, 2017 (UTC)