Talk:Fixed point in time

Should there be a disusssion about these being plot devices?

No, many major concepts on Doctor Who and other successful series are plot devices. It's unnecessary to note them all.210.49.167.47 08:52, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

This is becoming a headache
Technicaly... DOES the Doctor need to be at Lake Silencio? It's the Teselecta posing as him, so doesn't that make things even more complicated? (173.167.179.77talk to me 23:15, May 29, 2012 (UTC))
 * He is there. He's in the Teselecta. Everything's kosher. —Josiah Rowe talk to me 03:36, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Miracle Day
From what we've seen, the start of the Miralce during the fourth season of Torchwood is most likely a fixed point in time. Ending it was left in flux; had Oswald Danes not gotten ahold of himself, he would have blown everyone up before Rex could release Jack's blood in Beauno Aries; Jack would have been dead for good and the Miracle would continue to causes sociey's collaspse. (173.167.179.77talk to me 21:27, August 31, 2012 (UTC))


 * No, if it was a fixed point in time, that would mean that humans are supposed to be immortal in the normal time line, which would mean every story that takes places in the future would supposed to have immortal humans, which they don't. If it was a fixed point, then the fact that Torchwood saved the day would have caused massive damage to time, like in The Wedding of River Song, which didn't happen. -<Azes13 ☎  21:44, August 31, 2012 (UTC)

Fixed time
In The Angels Take Manhattan, when Amy is about to let herself be sent back by a Weeping Angel, the Doctor says it would create a "fixed time". It would seem that the implication here is that if she gets sent back and he sees that she died, it's not simply one fixed point, but that the rest of her life would be fixed. The difference between a point and a line. Does this make sense to anyone else, and how should the specific terminology be handled? d ● • ·  17:37, October 5, 2012 (UTC)