Talk:River Song/Archive 1

After reading this entry, I've got a question about it's mention of the Blue Book.

I'd like to refer to this part: "... this might indicate that the blue book is in fact the Doctor's biography, written some time after his death later on in his own personal time-line."

How was it mentioned or indicated that this book was written after the Doctor's death? And since he's a Time Lord ... should this mean his final death or "just" a regeneration?

Yes, it seemed quite obvious that the Blue Book contains some of the Doctor's future and that River Song knows him pretty well. She also mentioned that he looks younger than the version she knows, but it didn't sound to me as if he was dead in her time-line. And since she's so careful about the book, I think she wouldn't dare to mention something like this about his future.

Treelight 18:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

It is only possible that the Blue Book was written after the Doctor's death. If it is likely that River Song has traveled with the Time Lord, it is likely that she may have picked up the book in the further future of the Doctor's time-line.

It is also possible that the Blue Book is indeed the Doctor's biography, it may be added to every time the Doctor regenerates. This would also explain away the theory that the Doctor dies. Although, it has been mentioned previously by a Doctor Who writer that a Time Lord may only have thirteen regenerations.

Queenling 19:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * She kind of calls it a diary. 71.99.82.202 14:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

that blue book looks like the tarids outer shell thingy, well the police box :D LOL

River Song does not actually call the book a diary, she merely states that it is against the Doctor's own rules to see it, and that it contains spoilers. And the fact that the Blue Book is similar to the TARDIS has already been recognized by fans. Queenling 16:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

The Doctor refers to it as her (River Song's) diary in the concluding part, Forest Of The Dead. I'd suggest that this, and not the biography (although other biographies are mentioned in the first part) explanation, is correct. 82.23.83.228 20:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

"Her" Doctor... Does anyone not think she could mean the Eleventh Doctor? Just a theory, mind you.Matoro3311 "Shout At Me""My Contribs" 14:54, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well...no. She identifies the Tenth Doctor as her Doctor, recognising him, just not how youthful he is. --Tangerineduel 15:03, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree with Tangerineduel. Also, from Silence in the Library, "from the face it's the early days" suggests that when she met the doctor in her past, it was still the tenth doctor, but may have regenerated later. 74.67.62.14 18:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

The way that the story is put forth, and how she uses it to try and identify what era of Doctor he is, asking if they've done certain things together from the book, its obviously her diary of her travels with him in the future, I don't see how there's any question of it being anything else.78.105.240.23 19:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Huckleberry FInn
How is her name a reference to Huckleberry Finn? Surely it's more a reference to the 1973 film adaptation of Tom Sawyer, which included the Academy Award-nominated song, River Song?  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍  12:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

"His future self told her this to get his past self to trust her when he first met her."

Where is the evidence for this? considering the reaction her gave to hearing his name, its unlikely that we would tell her it just so his younger self would trust her. Taccer 07 00:00, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There's nothing in the episode to suggest this one way or the other. I'll take it out. 23skidoo 18:48, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

What evidence is there that it's even the Doctor's name? Considering how the Doctor doesn't talk about the dead it would be just as much of a shock to him to hear Romana's name or Susan's because it might imply that River had met one of them.
 * Because one of the members of the archaeological expedition, the woman who fell victim to the vashta nerada, asked him what she'd said to him, and he explained that she'd told him his name. I've spoken with other fans, and it's been suggested that he and River might have been married or some sort of equivalent, due to his comment that there's only one time he would or could tell someone his name.