User talk:SOTO

To save you the trouble, just call me SOTO. Also, please sign your messages. Thanks.

× SmallerOnTheOutside  (☎/ ✍ / ↯ )

Test
This is a test. × SOTO  ( ☎ / ✍ / ↯ ) 09:23, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * This is another test. I'm starting to consider maybe writing something a bit less boring as a test. Maybe next time. 09:31, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Question
Cane we able to do image galleries here? LunarSolar ☎  20:33, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

Series 8
Hey, I just wanted to remind you to be careful when posting edit summaries for the Series 8 page. Any spoilers in the edit summary will show up in both "recent changes" and "wiki activity". Thanks. Shambala108 ☎  22:54, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Series 8
Episode 2's title is confirmed, please add it to the series 8 page. I've provided a citation (Radio Times) on Talk:Series 8 (Doctor Who).
 * The rest of the episode titles have been revealed on the BBC website. Link on the Series 8 talk page like last time.
 * Just posted a link to episode 1's credits at Talk:Series 8 (Doctor Who).
 * At this point, we're so close to actual transmission that it makes little sense not to wait to see the credits as transmitted. This, after all, is the admonishment of T:CREW. I wouldn't even bother with detailed, per-episode maintenance of the series 8 page, but instead focus on the episode pages themselves as those eps are transmitted. 15:24: Tue 19 Aug 2014

Danny Pink
I tried to create a page for Danny Pink, as he has now been seen in a broadcast episode, but it says that the page is still locked, and it was you who locked it. Any chance it can now be unlocked? Geek Mythology ☎  12:08, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Video request
Hey, SOTO, do you mind uploading [this video] for the page The Time of the Doctor (TV story)? I put it on the video recommendations page a couple months ago but it was overlooked. Thanks. --TARDIS2468 ☎  11:32, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

Hi I was wondering if I could ask about the standard preloads it looks like a great tool and I have a Wikia but I am not sure how I could added. I realise this isn't a Tardis Wikia matter but if you can assist me. I would be most grateful. Thanks Kelvin 101 ☎

Home media/video
How is the creation of home media/video pages for the televised stories project going? Ebyabe  (talk)  17:58, April 18, 2015 (UTC)

Bot edits
Hi! I just wanted to let you know that I am undoing some of your bot work. Specifically, I am correcting the grammar of your edits on the "date (releases)" pages. Leaving off the word "the" in front of the publications/magazines names is poor grammar. Just try saying some of these sentences to yourself out loud and you'll realize how odd they sound.

I know that CzechOut spent a lot of time giving you instructions on these pages, and that he specifically told you to keep the items short, but he was referring to the amount of information you were to provide, not the grammar. In fact, I've found two examples where he specifically places the word "the" in front of the phrase "TV comic". You can find the examples on User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside/Archive 3, dated Jun 23, 2013, and Thread:121256, dated Feb 22, 2013.

Also, I have to say it would have been nice if you had let me know that you were using your bot to undo the 365 pages that I had fixed a few months previously. Didn't you even wonder why I was making those particular edits? Thanks. Shambala108 ☎  01:19, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Covers
Hi! On looking over Special:Wantedcategories, I noticed that all but 100 of the 365 wanted categories are of the format "(episode name) (medium) covers". Do you have plans for these uncreated categories? It's been over a year for most of them, and the categories should either be deleted or created, since there are so many images that have these non-existent categories. Thanks. Shambala108 ☎  02:14, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

DWU Forum Invite
Hey SOTO! I wanted to stop by and invite you to be a part of Thread:180396, where we're currently discussing if the DWU prefix does or does not well-represent our invalid policy. We've got some good input, but barely anything from admins. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 19:37, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

If you have time, is there any chance that you could stop by Thread:176459? As you asked, I have delivered a someone more clear layout of the Doctor Who levels and how the game play works, and the discussion with if it is valid or not is again open, but traffic has died down on the page... OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 21:56, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

BBC Store image category
Thank you for recategorizing. Your robot certainly beats my manual labor. Amorkuz ☎  09:01, December 15, 2015 (UTC)

Informational matchmaking :)
Thanks for the tip on a possible information source and for reaching out to him.

On a partially related topic, there seems to be a weird discrepancy between the website vs. CD information for Big Finish as far as cast is concerned. For earlier releases, the full cast is on the website but not on the CD; for later releases the situation is exactly the opposite. It appears that no single source can have all the information. Amorkuz ☎  08:36, December 17, 2015 (UTC)

To [[Category or to [[:Category
Oops! Should have spotted it. Thanks. Amorkuz ☎  08:54, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

Checkers/Chequers
since my reply doesn't seem to be seen on the discusion board here is my answer

It's Checkers as in the script it says

STAHLBAUM A clever move from Count Wittenmeier, ladies and gentlemen. Another red checker taken.

Adric♥Nyssa∩Talk? 12:21, December 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * Worse than that, I couldn't add this information to the discussion board either. Amorkuz ☎  12:51, December 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh dear. Can you post to other threads? If not, I'm sure it's just a temporary problem at Wikia that'll be over soon enough. File a Special:Contact/bug to let them know there's an issue and/or push them to get it fixed. 12:55, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

The Black Hole
Looking at other articles in regeneration categories, they include not just the Doctor's regenerations but also regenerations of other Time Lords (e.g. "Hell Bent", which has the General's regeneration). And Pavo regenerates in "The Black Hole". JagoAndLitefoot ☎  22:11, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

Off topic discussion on talk pages
An anon on Talk:Clara Oswald is pretty clearly breaking T:DISCUSS by ranting about how they dislike her. Seeing as I'm not an admin here, am I right in thinking it's up to one of them to remove it? Can't recall what the specific policy about removed/removing comments is, and I couldn't point to anything on T:DISCUSS beyond "don't talk about how good/bad an episode was". -- Tybort (talk page) 01:20, December 25, 2015 (UTC)

Renaming 
Hi there. Could you possibly take a look the page Maitre d' and the reason I left on its talk page for its renaming? Thank you :) The  Farty  Doctor   Talk  00:04, December 26, 2015 (UTC)

I've Been a Fool Just a heads up, I think I've put name sorts on articles that don't require them. So sorry again for the inconvenience. DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  21:30, December 26, 2015 (UTC)

Just Here to Say Thanks
Hi SOTO, thanks for the tips on the Real World tags and categories adding, now I know how to create proper articles. I've used the knowledge you gave me to create pages for Cast and Crew of BBV and Reeltime pages that haven't already got any. Thanks for the help, you're very kind. I hope to stay editing with the wikia and I wish you all the best

p.s. You're one of the kindest tardis data core users I've ever spoken too. =)

DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  15:19, December 28, 2015 (UTC)

Question
Hi smaller on the outside, how do you remove redundant categories, thanks pal DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  19:42, December 30, 2015 (UTC)

Redundant Categories

Hi! When making edits, please be aware of redundant categories. They create recursion, which makes things confusing for bots. That's why we try to avoid them as much as possible.MystExplorer ☎  00:21, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

Recursion
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the concept. I was wondering if you could set me straight. Are you saying recursion only applies to categories nested within one another and not to ones that are several categories removed from each other? MystExplorer ☎  22:08, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

The categories I have just edited were only one category removed from each other. Therefore, they were redundant. MystExplorer ☎  02:13, January 10, 2016 (UTC)

Master
82.69.105.93, this user deleted the whole of the Five Masters section in the Master, I undid his revision but I thought I'd give you the heads up in case he tries again. DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  09:19, January 16, 2016 (UTC)

Hello! Sorry for asking but do you know who the creator of this wiki is? Thanks!

Truth or Consequences
I noticed you edited the page for the 'Truth or Consequences' short story and figured I'd ask - since the story really is incredibly short (to the point that a typed-up synopsis would be longer than the actual story), and since it's available to the public for free in multiple places, would it be okay to just type out the story for the 'plot' segments of the article? Or is there a rule against that? Cheers. KingOrokos ☎  23:55, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, rightio. I'll wait and let you post what you've got, then type up the rest. Thanks! KingOrokos ☎  00:06, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

Piscon pages
Hi 90.204.64.148 user is putting proposed deletion tags on the Piscon pages, however they are officially licensed by rights holder Nev Fountain. Just giving you the heads up DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  22:46, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

2150
Hey, I initially posted this to CzechOut's talk page since he was the one who locked 2150, but he hasn't been around recently/hasn't gotten round to replying, so I figured I'd throw it your way.

I was taking a look at all the pages with red links to 2150 and noticed that one of them isn't actually Cushing-film-related - there's a reference to that year in this comic story. Only a minor one, but what with no such thing as notability and all, I was wondering if that was enough to justify creating a '2150' page. Sorry if you've been asked this before, just thought I'd check! KingOrokos ☎  01:18, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

The problem is that the page is locked against editing/creation. Can you unlock it, or does it need to be CzechOut? KingOrokos ☎  00:36, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

Rassilon's gauntlet page rename
Is it possible for the page Rassilon's gauntlet be renamed Gauntlet of Rassilon for harmony with the other artefacts of Rassilon? NickM98 ☎  10:37, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

cologne vs. Cologne
Hi! I've found a case that clearly requires a bot but also an experience in handling delicate cases. I hope you could help decide what to do with it.

There is currently a redirect from cologne to perfume. But it had to happen one day that the city of Cologne appeared in DWU. I found a (very brief and cursory) mention in AUDIO: Mary's Story. This creates a problem and questions: These seem like problems above my pay grade. At the moment in the reference section of Mary's Story I coded the link as Cologne (city) to avoid an incorrect link for the time being. But this is not because I consider this to be the best solution. Amorkuz ☎  00:46, February 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) How to call the page for the city of Cologne: should it be dabbed given that the perfume meaning is just a redirect?
 * 2) Should the redirect be deleted completely (with changing all links, which is best done by a bot)? Or is it better to create a disambiguation page (even though there are even less than two pages: one page and one redirect).


 * There is a confirmation that Cologne is in Germany in Loups-Garoux, so it can be used.


 * As for Cologne being taken, it is a redirect only. Are redirects of equal value with actual pages?


 * Wait a moment. The situation is actually worse than I originally reported. The confusion, which I predicted would happen, has already happened. On the pages Loups-Garoux and 28 October, the city is coded as Cologne (city), which at least is not incorrect (leads to a non-existent page). On the page 1589, it is coded as Cologne, Germany (leads to another non-existent page). All three mentions originate from the same source. But the rendition of the same mention on the page Germany uses Cologne and erroneously leads right into the perfume page.


 * As a novice editor myself, I can perfectly understand someone who starts typing Cologne in double brackets, sees the blue link and trusts it to be the right one. On the other hand, it appears that the links cologne to the perfume are also quite rare: I found only one, on the page Linda (Everything Changes), and another page The Doctor (Battlefield) mentions the word but does not provide a link. So this redirect so far works for exactly one link, to the best of my understanding.


 * It appears that cologne is a rarely used variant of perfume which hardly warrants a redirect interfering with a city. Perhaps, it would make sense to treat it the same way as hot chocolate is treated on the page Gingerbread, that is by putting an explicit redirect as in cologne. Amorkuz ☎  01:29, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

Legacy Inclusion Debate
2 years ago you labelled Legacy (video game) invalid. This inclusion debate could use your opinion the matter of making it valid again. I hope you can reconsider. The Champion of Time   ☎  17:22, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

Mr Song
I hope I might be able to interest you in a sufficiently non-trivial case of what should be the correct name for the page of "Mr Song". The current name is taken from the cast of The Diary of River Song and is clearly wrong (if only because of "Mr" alone). But the issue is more interesting... Oh, I was going to list all the relevant facts, but... spoilers (I don't know if you've listened to it already). The discussion is on the talk page of "Mr Song". I am hesitant to start a general Panopticon thread because these tend to go on forever and we are not supposed to change anything until they're closed. Plus this is a sufficiently local issue affecting only two stories. I'd be very happy if you could lend your expertise on this topic. Amorkuz ☎  22:33, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

Categories
I think that some of your categories, like Race or Difference are examples of overcategorisation. I've explained it furthermore on the talk pages. Thank you in advance! RoseTenthFan ☎  13:44, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
Dear SOTO. Thanks for correcting some of my mistakes. And I'm glad to see you back. I also wanted to let you know that I haven't abandoned our discussion on anthologies. Instead, I decided to check a simpler case first and go through the naming scheme for individual stories. My thoughts on the matter are in a separate thread. There I outlined a naming scheme that complied with the existing practice in all cases except for two stories. Incidentally, based on the achieved consensus on the talk page of the story, you have just renamed one of those two stories, so now only one story stands out.

As for the anthologies, I also have ideas originating from both our old discussion and my newly acquired knowledge from listening to some of the anthologies. But these ideas should be developed in sync with the naming scheme for stories, so I'm currently waiting if this would be interesting for sufficiently many editors to merit a serious discussion. Amorkuz ☎  23:55, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

Miss Marple
Thanks for keeping an eye on my speedy renames. I wanted to clarify my position regarding Miss Marple. I thought making her "Jane Marple" could prevent another rename in the future. But I don't mind "Marple" either, if that is a quicker way to remove the T:HONOR violation. I'd be happy to move the links, whichever rename is approved. Amorkuz ☎  07:52, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

New York vs. New York City in category names
Yes, I've been hesitating about this. I really don't know what is best. The New York City naming scheme has started before me, and I'm not sure why it is needed. And shorter names are presumably better if they do not create ambiguities. Presumably, New York City is needed to distinguish it from New York (state). But 1) I don't think there are any categories tied to New York State. 2) Certain things are unnatural to assign to a state. For instance, I can think of New York State streets category by analogy with Category:Florida streets. But New York State subway stations does not make any sense, IMHO. That's why I started dropping City from the category names. But, of course, I could be wrong. Amorkuz ☎  16:59, August 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I've been too slow in responding: wanted to do a bit of research to make sure NY is okay for all existing categories. But never mind: it was my own fault. I can live with NYC, which is definitely a safe option. And thanks for dealing with my subway station mess. Amorkuz  ☎  00:22, August 30, 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, I believe Category:Towns and cities located in New York was the reason I wanted to dig around more. After thinking about the matter for a couple of days offline, I remembered and tracked down the following rule from T:CAT NAME: "Above all else, category names must not be open to multiple interpretation" explicated later by "Your category should unambiguously name its contents". In view of this, using New York City creates an immediate clarity, as opposed to the reliance on certain thinking patterns if New York is used. In fact, from this position I would even argue that Category:Towns and cities located in New York should be renamed to Category:Towns and cities located in New York State. One might think that no cities can be part of New York City. But there are such monstrosities (in the real universe). First of all, Brooklyn was a city in its own right until 1898. So a story set earlier is likely to portray Brooklyn as a city, perhaps, by boasting it to be the 4th largest city in the US. Secondly, Long Island City is a neighbourhood (and postal address) in New York City. I can come up with more examples, I'm sure. Yes, they are not yet part of the DWU. But with a Rose-like back-to-mom-regularly Brooklyn-based companion, these things are likely to get explored. And again there is a reliance on certain thinking patterns in using New York instead of New York State. Amorkuz ☎  22:56, August 30, 2016 (UTC)

Prisoners of Time
Hey, as one of the editors who contributed the most for the Prisoners of Time page, I believe your input at this thread: would be very useful. Thanks OncomingStorm12th ☎  23:43, September 4, 2016 (UTC)

Guard on Denes
The guard on Denes from The Enemy of the World calls himself Yannos while talking to Astrid in episode three. If I recall correctly, she also says "sorry Yannos" when she knocks him out. --Gus The Great ☎  15:35, September 5, 2016 (UTC) It sounds like Yannos in the episode. I also looked at the novelisation, but he's replaced by two non-speaking guards. --Gus The Great ☎  16:38, September 5, 2016 (UTC)

Asmuth infobox
Hey, thanks for the change of the Category on the Asmuth page. However, I have had a problem while creating the page, and, hopefully, you'll be able to help. While linking the source of the information on the article, I could easily figure out the coding needed was this: Bigger on the Inside. However, when I tried to use this on the infobox, it didn't work. Neither did using this version of the coding: "|" .Is there any way to link directly to the Bigger on the Inside part of the "Legacy" article? Or would it be necessary to create a new page for it? OncomingStorm12th ☎  21:49, September 7, 2016 (UTC)


 * Yeah, but the thing is: when I apply  on the "|only=     " parameter, it displays "Article#Section name". However, only the Section name would be needed on the infobox. I'm sorry that I didn't properly explain myself up here, but this is the real issue I've had, displaying only the section name instead of the whole thing. OncomingStorm12th  ☎  22:03, September 7, 2016 (UTC)


 * Is there any other means to make it? Because using the trick you suggested created another issue: Now, it displays "Bigger on the InsideBigger on the Inside". If there isn't, well, at least thank you for trying to help. OncomingStorm12th ☎  22:20, September 7, 2016 (UTC)

Categories
Hi! What's up with all the sub categories located in Category:Non-fiction books? Some of these are speculation, and these types of categories were specifically vetoed by User:CzechOut on your talk page at User talk:SOTO/Archive 3. Has there been some kind of off-site meeting where these kinds of categories are now allowed? Thanks. Shambala108 ☎  03:39, September 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * I will get back to you on this, but I've cut my finger and for now it makes typing really painful. Shambala108 ☎  13:45, September 14, 2016 (UTC)

Ignoring your warnings
Sorry for ignoring your warnings on the edits reversing. I only saw them now. For now, I'll upload the images to the wiki, but won't add them to the pages. OncomingStorm12th ☎  02:23, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

New York streets
Dear SOTO, Since you're looking at New York streets anyways, could you please rename "44th Street" into 44th Street (Manhattan)? I just added the namesake street from Brooklyn. I promise to deal with the links. I'll also add "you may" to both pages. Amorkuz ☎  22:13, September 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Amorkuz ☎  22:26, September 14, 2016 (UTC)

Superannuation
Hi pal. Do you know what happened to the Superannuation page? Best Wishes buddy.DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  21:59, October 1, 2016 (UTC) 😊

Jack resolution
Hi SOTO, according to the 'Jack Heathcote' page, it was created by himself. I know this not to be true as he is a good friend of mine. Any chance this could be resolved. Best Wishes. 😊 DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  21:02, October 2, 2016 (UTC)

Michael Collier
Hello, I wanted to make an edit on http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Michael_Collier on how "Michael Collier" is a pseudonym used by Stephen Cole (he explained it in a tweet), but I think I screwed up. May you please help fix it? --Crazyface201 ☎  16:17, October 5, 2016 (UTC)

virus
The last created page looks like a virus, the one about bullet proof things. Best wishes DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  19:45, October 9, 2016 (UTC)

virus revisited
Someone's posted the virus up as a page again pal. Best Wishes. DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  06:35, October 10, 2016 (UTC)

return of the virus
I hate to bombard but there is another one of the virus things, they're turning out to be arch enemies of the core unfortunately. DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  07:12, October 10, 2016 (UTC)

Theme
By without theme tune, I meant as in no opening titles like Bad Night and Prequel of Deep Breath. Best wishes. DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  19:52, October 11, 2016 (UTC)

Template update
Seeing as You've been making a few edits on comic companions of the Twelfth Doctor, could you update Template:Companions of the Twelfth Doctor to include Hattie (The Twist), Jata, Jess Collins, Maxwell Collins, Lloyd Collins, and Devina Collins as multi-story comic companions? CoT    ?  12:06, October 19, 2016 (UTC)


 * It would take less than minute to copy and paste this.


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Your input is needed
Hi, as you're an exceptionally good admins with exceptionally good ideas. I think that your input is needed at http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:199945#4, thanks best wishes. DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  19:14, October 19, 2016 (UTC)

PNG
Sorry to bother you SOTO but I accidentally uploaded a png and don't know how to get rid, sorry for the inconvenience. DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  14:14, October 22, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help SOTO :D, you're a good pal. :D DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  14:22, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

Rename
Hello pal, sorry to bother you again but as all links have been removed, would you be able to change the name of 2015 BBC Christmas ident to Sprout Boy meets a Galaxy of Stars (TV story), as the BBC have released it officially on the internet using that name. Everything is ready for the name to be changed. Best wishes DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  19:14, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Class
I think to be a semi-regular, you have to be in at least three episodes. Since we've only had two so far, there's no need for a semi-regular category just yet. We'll see what happens after Episode 3 airs.MystExplorer ☎  21:53, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

The Terun of the Virus
Sorry to bother you but that virus thing is back. DENCH-and-PALMER ☎  07:51, October 24, 2016 (UTC)

Bots
Oh, ok. I usually just remember user:CzechOut as having a bot, but I shall remember you do so as well. Thanks for moving April's links. OncomingStorm12th ☎  13:26, October 24, 2016 (UTC)

19th Judoon Interplanetary Force
Hey, could you please move the page 19th Judoon Interplanetary Force into Nineteenth Judoon Interplanetary Force? The current name was created from a non-valid source, and still hasn't been renamed, even though the links have now been moved for a while. As there is a redirect, the request displayed on Tardis:Speedy renames looks very weird, so I though of asking it directly here. OncomingStorm12th ☎  21:17, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey, I was wondering why in this case a redirect was left behind, since most cases don't. The fact that there is a redirect makes navigating from another page to this one a bit tricky (at least for me so far). For example: if you are on the Kybo page and click on "Nineteenth Judoon Interplanetary Force" you go to a redirect page, not the article itslef. OncomingStorm12th ☎  23:19, October 24, 2016 (UTC)

Torchwood teams pages
As one of the editors who contributed K9 Unit, Bannerman Road gang and is participating of The Doctor's team pages, maybe you could put your input in | this thread. Thanks. OncomingStorm12th ☎  21:15, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

Infobox name
Before you go undoing more of my edits, they are based on a rule communicated to me by Shambala108, the rule stating that the name in the infobox should always be the same as the name of the page (minus the dab term). She couldn't remember where it was written, but I just trusted her knowledge. If you don't think it is a rule, I'd appreciate this being clearly written somewhere, whichever it is. Amorkuz ☎  00:27, October 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the clarification of the rule. Amorkuz ☎  00:38, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

Merchandise infobox
Well, the ones I can think of now are: Probablt it will be best if you open a thread on the Panopticon, because most people will be able to give suggestions, but if I think of any more, I'll post a reply in here. OncomingStorm12th ☎  00:28, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * name
 * image
 * Release date
 * publisher
 * format
 * next/previous (in case it is a series of merchandises)


 * Thanks for the infobox. One small request though: would it be possible to add it to the "standart preloads"? One other usefull infobox that isn't there is "organisation". If you could add these two I would be really gratefull. OncomingStorm12th ☎  01:23, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, and the |aka parameter isn't displayed in the final infobox, even if there is something written in the parameter (see 21304 Doctor Who) OncomingStorm12th ☎  01:32, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I think there was a misunderstanding. I know exists. I was asking you, if possible, to add it into the "standard preloads" as well. Sorry if it was confusing before (hope I made my point clearer now) OncomingStorm12th  ☎  02:10, October 26, 2016 (UTC)