Howling:Erasing events?

the Moff made it very clear that certain events in who-history have been erased to make the inhabitants of earth unaware of aliens. but how can an event be swallowed by a crack without the people who took part being swallowed to. lets take journeys end for exaple. if that event was erased by the cracks, it would mean all 27 planets would have been erased along with their inhabitants as well as the doctor, the "children of time", the daleks and davros. i have a feeling that if that were the case, the post journeys end removal universe would look very different to what it does look like. so, if the cracks don't swallow everything in an event, how do they uncreate events? do the cracks just remove the cause, eg swallowing dalek caan so he can't go back and save davros and so that event never occured? i want to hear your theories. Imamadmad 09:07, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

My theory is that the characters in the show are going to act as if they never happened and the production team will perform the moral equivalent of a shrug. Boblipton 11:20, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Imamadmad's logic in respect of The Stolen Earth/Journey's End seems wrong to me. Erasing those events does not mean erasing the 27 planets (one of which was the Earth); it means only erasing their disappearances. Adipose 3 would not have vanished, so there'd be no need for Miss Foster, Pyrovillia would not have been lost, and so on. All those planets would still be in their original places. I've gone through the episodes of Series 1 to 4 (including the 2009 Specials) to see which would have to be erased and which could remain (perhaps slightly modified) but either be forgotten or be explained without reference to aliens. The entire list is far too long to include here but the major problem I found wasn't one I'd expected. I'd thought that the absence of events involving Donna would (as in Turn Left) mean that the Doctor was killed but the events that would have killed him are among those that would need to be erased to avoid public knowledge of aliens; Donna wouldn't have been there to save him but there'd have been nothing to save him from. The major problem is that Rose would not have got trapped in a parallel world. The events of Army of Ghosts/Doomsday must have been erased because they were so public and so obviously involved aliens. The universe of "Pete's World" might not have been affected by the "reboot" of this universe, so Rose and the metacrisis Doctor could still be there. This universe very definitely was affected, so Rose should still be around and the Doctor's bright enough to figure that out. I'm not going to say Steven Moffat can't solve that problem but it does need to be solved. --89.242.67.159 02:16, August 11, 2011 (UTC)