Forum:Story arcs

A story arc is a common thread carried across a number of stories to form an over reaching arc or a continuing element in a story line. (See Story arc)

Looking through Category:Story arcs category there are though, a few I'm unsure of. Is Category:Rassilon's Final Solution arc an arc? The stories within fall into the 'continuing element' style of arc, but it's more to do with the Doctor's end (which is linked into Rassilon but Rassilon isn't the common theme throughout these stories).

Category:Return of the Master arc is another I'm unsure of, with the stories; The Keeper of Traken, Logopolis and Castrovalva it is the return of the Master, but it's not the only return of the Master arc, maybe consider renaming it in case of confusion with the Utopia/The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords stories? Or maybe have this as a main category with two sub-categories of different returns? (I'm not really sure)

Also the Category:Missing Planets arc articles I've grouped together into this category (previously there were about half a dozen categories relating to this such as: Category:Medusa Cascade arc, Category:The Return of Rose arc, Category:Series 4 prophecies, Category:Shadow Proclamation arc and Category:Series 4 story arcs into which these were sub-categories of. --Tangerineduel 17:26, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I seem to remember tackling this issue back in the day. And the truth is there's never a completely satisfactory name for these things, because they're all drawn from our own impressions of the episodes.  There's no doubt there is an arc, but what we name it depends on what we take away from the episodes.  The reason people leap to "Return of the Master" is because the Master is the common element, I suppose.  But it does cause a problem to use that, because, as you point out, that's an equally valid name for Utopia-The End of Time.  Whatever name you came up with would have to, in my mind, cover the Doctor, the Master and Nyssa, because they're all three the continuing elements in all stories of the trilogy.


 * One of the reasons I suggested putting this information actually in the infobox — with those nav arrows that you disliked — was because you then didn't actually have to create a linkable name for the arc. You could call it what you wanted, give people the ability to navigate it, but not worry about having an actual article about it.  People could edit the name as they saw fit until a really good name was established — without that creative process resulting in the creation of any page or category.


 * Doing it this way with categories is just messy. I think they should all be deleted, as they're really just one or two fans' opinions and not worthy of articles/categories.  Not only that, but categories don't organize this information usefully.  Categories have no real ability, unless you trick 'em out with funky numerical sort keys, of giving a sense of chronological order.  And that's really what people want here, I think.  23:10, May 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * In principle, I like CzechOut's solution (I think that was him who missed a tilde above) of putting this in the infobox, but I'm not sure even that's necessary. Almost every arc is made up of consecutive stories, or mostly consecutive stories skipping over a few of them. In fact, the only counter-example I can think of is Cartmel's War Trilogy from the NAs (which we have a category for, but it's called "Warlock Trilogy"). Which means the arrows wouldn't really be helpful in any way, as they'd just reproduce the existing previous story/next story links every time, so all they could show is that a story was the start or end of an arc (by not having a left or right arrow).


 * Having an _article_ on each arc makes sense if there's enough to say there, with the stories listed in order, and some description of what the arc is about. If there are multiple names for the same thing (like what we call the "Return of the Master arc" being usually called the "Master trilogy"--even in the top of The Keeper of Traken), we can discuss them, and have redirects from the other names. And so on.


 * But a category listing 3 or 13 episodes/stories and a handful of related articles all sorted in alphabetical order (without even the usual DW:, etc. to distinguish the stories from other episodes) doesn't do anyone any good. --Falcotron 00:24, May 29, 2010 (UTC)