User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-1296654-20200630105828/@comment-45314928-20200630115234

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-1296654-20200630105828/@comment-45314928-20200630115234 i said that John and Gillian belong on the Second's, but the Eighth *never* considered John and Gillian as his grandchildren - they were figments of his imagination while he was dreaming.