Talk:Martian (War of the Worlds)

inb4 Baker's End is a valid source
I'm listening to Gobbleknoll Hall, and it's been mentioned that the titular mansion was owned by the legendary Vince Cosmos, who mysteriously disappeared thirty-seven years ago tonight. Knowing our Mr Magrs, this is the first of many references to his previous DWU work. Look out, Doctor Who — there's an omen in the tea leaves, and it's in the shape of an enormous cat! Fwhiffahder ☎  03:53, December 22, 2016 (UTC)

Meercock merge and Enemy separation?
Hello, I would propose that the Magrs Martians constitute a discrete and consistent concept which deserves its own page, and that a page other than this should be the primary page for the general concept of HG Wells Martians, probably Martian (Character Assassin). I think the coverage of The Book of the Enemy alongside the Iris stuff obscures the details of what actually happens in these stories, because these are absolutely not meant by either of the authors involved to be consistent stories. Magrs' Martians riff on many of the ideas of Wells, but they're not trying to be accurate to the book like Enemy's Martians are.

The Magrs Martians first appeared in the BBC Past Doctor Adventures book Verdigris (novel) as the Meercocks; everything from their Martian appearance to their shapeshifting is there, the only difference is that they're not from the planet Mars in that one. I would propose a merge, because they are the same concept. Magrs reused the Meercocks in the Brenda and Effie novel Never the Bride, in which (coinciding with the novel's reimagining of classic literary characters) they are literally from Mars and responsible for invading Earth around the turn-of-the-century, but still have the unique attributes which Magrs created for the Meercocks. All following uses of the Magrs Martians thus continue from this. We don't currently cover the missing link in the chain, but it exists.

Also to keep in mind is that the Wells Martians appear in the 2001 comic Character Assassin (comic story), which was released after Verdigris but is still probably the first direct appearance of Wells' Martians in Who continuity.

It's maybe a complicated matter, but I felt like bringing it up. CoT    ?  14:54, October 17, 2020 (UTC)
 * I like the idea of the Meercocks being merged, but as for the ones from The Book of the Enemy, I oppose them being split. Granted, I haven't read Enemy yet, but so far as I can discern, they mesh together smoothly. Epsilon  (Contact me) 14:58, October 17, 2020 (UTC)


 * The Meercock/Martian split has gone through as CoT proposed, but I'll use this space to note that, pending Talk:Tales from the TARDIS (comic series), we would be able to rename this page Martian (The War of the Worlds) – about an order of magnitude better a title. – n8 (☎) 16:51, 8 July 2021 (UTC)


 * While I do disagree with the split pages to an extent (I will admit I do enjoy seeing all of the Magrs Martians lore together!), I do agree that Martian (The War of the Worlds) is quite probably the best title for this page that I could possibly imagine. 📯 📂 19:02, 8 July 2021 (UTC)