User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-188432-20130129081336/@comment-1166667-20130401045243

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-188432-20130129081336/@comment-1166667-20130401045243 The Doctor is a time traveler. Within that very episode we had a dead 1103-year old Doctor and a living 908-year old Doctor. No conflict, no issue. Even before we knew about the Teselecta, the page said quite plainly that the Doctor was dead.

We are not told that Oswin, Clara Oswin, and Clara are the same woman. We are told that the Doctor believes them to be the same, even though (once again), none recognizes him.

All logic points at three separate individuals. It is massive speculation to suggest they are the same woman.
 * We meet Oswin in the distant future. She does not know the Doctor. She dies.
 * We meet Clara Oswin in the 19th century. She does not know the Doctor. She dies.
 * We meet Clara in the 21st century. She does not know the Doctor.

I have yet to see any response to this question: '''We treat Rory Williams and Auton Rory as separate individuals, yet Rory retained the memories of his Auton counterpart and the Doctor believed them to be the same. Why does this same logic now not apply to Clara?'''