User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-4028641-20151008222758/@comment-4028641-20161108021657

Shambala108 wrote: Incidentally, this has long been an issue on this wiki, and was discussed over three years ago in Thread:129125, with User:CzechOut giving a pretty sensible reason for keeping NOTVALIDs off the appearance lists.

If it's being suggested that this is a piece of previous consensus on the site, I disagree. It seems to be the forum you link to *barely* holds a real discussion at all, most of it seems to be Czech clarifying the site's policy on canon and continuity. This was also notable before NOTDWU was fixed to NOTVALID, which is one of the reasons that there's so much confusion on it over the topic at hand. Also important to note that the conversation never ended -- that thread is still open to posts, it's just that it died off rather than coming to a conclusion. An older opinion isn't always better, it's just older.

Alright, more specifically Czech says that NONVALID stories should be scrapped to make it easier on the managerial editors of the wiki. "There's nothing wrong in making an editorial choice — particularly if it benefits clarity." The issue is that removing the DWU label doesn't make things more clear, is makes things far less clear.

It's suggested even in *that* discussion that these stories still need to be *included*, just not with all of the others. But realistically there's no need to split them off from all of the other prefixed links --the prefix notating our policy on the story already kinda does that. Either way we can't keep butchering these articles like this without clarifying what has happened to them.