Talk:Destiny of the Doctors (video game)

not enough information
This game does not get enough attention on this site. Where's the Graak, the plot, or where are the involvements of the monsters, such as Daleks or Autons? 20:57, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


 * well, if you know about the game (which I don't) then, by all means, add it to the entry. I haven't played it and don't know a lot about it. --Stardizzy2 21:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Attention can be given on the article's page. But as far as using info from the game on other article pages, that's another story. 'The City of Thoughts' had a lot of info (personally it was much better as a database than the game was as a game). But through the game the monsters were...a little odd. I seem to remember being able to defeat an Auton with a fire extinguisher (that shot water). I'm not sure if the game should count as canon. --Tangerineduel 13:43, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Even though I don't have the game I saw a fan edit of it on Youtube, which gave me quite a bit of info. I'll see what I can do. As for the canon claim, if you watch the end the Master is imprisoned and taken away to stand trial. This seems to lead into the TV movie. 20:16, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Perhaps. But then Lungbarrow also sets up for the TVM as does The Eight Doctors (the Eight Doctors specifically has a scene with the Master prior to going to the Daleks). The game is kinda in the same field as the choose your own advnture books, the game didn't always end in the Master being put on trial (often it ended in you being taunted by the Master for stuffing up something.) If we really need to place it in an article I think the other sources should take precedence. As I think plenty of the stuff in the game was just invented to fit the parameters of the game as I previously mentioned fire extinguisher = dead Auton...? Then there's the Zygons firing blue lasers at Graak...and what exactly the Cybermen keep saying? --Tangerineduel 13:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC)--Tangerineduel 13:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Timeline
As far as I know the only info we sort-of know about where this falls in continuity is that for the Seventh Doctor and the Master, it's an indeterminate time before the TV Movie, perhaps leading directly into it with the Master's imprisonment. However, timeline additions are being made to place the other Doctors, with things like COMIC, PHS, and PROSE listings brought in which strikes me as entirely bizarre; surely this game did not reference any TV Comics, nor could they have referenced this game, so where does that come from?

The only way we can place this for the past Doctors is by taking events the past Doctors mention in the in-game dialogue as having happened to them already, and placing their segments of this game sometime (an unknown length of time, of course) after that. However, we'd need to cite those somehow; perhaps by adding the notes that "the (Xth Doctor) mentions having (done thing Y) (TV: Episode Z)" into the continuity section. This would take some time and reference-hunting; I'm sporadically replaying the game and can do a bit of it. It would, of course, be limited to TV continuity. &mdash; Rob T Firefly - &#916;&#8711; - 17:12, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm callin' a timeout on this timeline. Basically you're bumping up against an edit war over the time line.  It needs to be hashed out here, on the talk page.  So, the article's going on lockdown for 72 hours to allow you both time to edit the article collaboratively here, on the talk page.  I'm reverting the timeline section back to Rob's first edit after Revan on the 6th of October — that is, the first skirmish in this merry little edit war.  I'm doing so partly because Rob did the right thing and tried to start a conversation here.  But I'm also doing so because that first revision is so simple, it's unassailably true.  It does occur prior to the TVM for Seven and the Master.  Obviously.  And we don't know anything else for sure.  So that's as good a starting place as any.  Any alteration to that base position must be argued here for the next 72 hours. 04:29: Tue 11 Oct 2011
 * I'd be happy just leaving it at occurring sometime before the TVM, as the rest of it is really hazy due to the nature of the production. I don't know that we'll be able to get much more than unhelpful generalizations like "For the First Doctor this story occurs sometime after An Unearthly Child/ sometime before The Tenth Planet."  The Doctors themselves don't do much discussion of their own timelines in the story, which as I wrote above is what we'd need; their dialogue is mainly telling the player what item to fetch or what area to go to next (or, in the case of the Third Doctor, making vaguely-related statements that might be applicable to the plot in some fashion because the poor fellow is all shoehorned archive footage.)


 * I'll throw in the CD and go through the dialogue files manually later on, and see what I can get from there, but I'm not holding out much hope that we'll get workable timelines for the past Doctors out of it.&mdash; Rob T Firefly - &#916;&#8711; - 22:18, October 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just one thing, when the block ends, I wish to add See the indivitual timelines for each Doctor for a more precise placeing to the page, but other than that, I think we're okay.--OttselSpy25 talk to me 18:12, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Newly Discoverd Continuity Points!
Okay, I've found some new continuity points, that make it esier to precisley pin point the Doctors origin, and thats the Items.

Okay, first off, The Seventh Doctor has in his TARDIS Excalibur, placing this story after Battlefield.

The Third Doctor has in his possesion his Metebelis crystal, meaning that this must be set during either TV: The Green Death, or TV: Planet of the Spiders, most likely the first, as that is the only time he had it in the TARDIS.

And the best thing I've done is prove that this storyis set in SEASON 6B.


 * The second Doctor has his Stattenheim remote control, which he was given by the Celestial Intervention Agency, (PROSE: World Game, TV: The Two Doctors) this, without a doubt, places this story in the setting of Season 6B, to be more precise, after The Five Doctors and before {haven worked that out yet :>}

OttselSpy25 talk to me 14:32, October 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * While we know the Second Doctor had the Stattenheim Remote during The Two Doctors, we don't how long after World Game or The Two Doctors he had it. All we do know is that the Doctor lost it sometime before his sixth life. The presence of the Stattenheim does not give us any solid timeline knowledge beyond the fact that it comes after World Game. &mdash; Rob T Firefly - Δ∇ - 02:22, October 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * WEll, yes, but because his TARDIS appears to be in his own possesion then it must take place before Action in Exile, and a previously noted point of him recogniseing the Master places it after The Five Doctors.OttselSpy25 talk to me 11:09, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reminder: timelines disallowed
Per forum agreement, timeline sections on pages have been abolished. Just changing the section title from "timeline" to "placement" doesn't get around this ruling. Please do not add a timeline section to this article under any name. I know you — and I assume I'm principally addressing OttselSpy25 here — have put a lot of work into trying to figure out where each of these Doctors come from, but you need to let it go. The ruling undid a lot of work all across the wiki, so your work here wasn't singled out for destruction. This sort of refactoring is simply a natural part of wiki editing. You need to just let it go.

Or...

If you really insist on preserving this information somewhere, you can use Forum:Timey-wimey detector. That forum does not have to be entirely comprised by threads of the format "Timeline - Character Name". It can be about any timeline issue. You are at complete liberty to start a thread there about the timeline of this game, if you wish. But you may not link from this article to that discussion. 14:17: Tue 20 Nov 2012