Talk:Origins (comic story)

"Woman"
Who is the woman in the fourth part of the story? Tecteun? Scott Eccles ☎  11:21, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I think that is what we are supposed to believe, but it isn't stated and so we can't include it on the page beyond the BTS section. I thought it an interesting inclusion that the Fugitive calls the person "Sir". DrWHOCorrieFan ☎  15:18, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Given the usage of a male honorfic, I reckon it may be best to hold off assuming the gender of this character. I would personally recommend the page for the character be something like Time Lord (Origins), which describes the character in a gender neutral manner, until we get more details on this character. 📯 📂 15:57, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I would suggest Division Leader as it wasn't specifically stated that they were a Time Lord and we know non-Time Lords can be part of Division, such as Karvanista and the Weeping Angels. DrWHOCorrieFan ☎  16:01, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Jody Houser confirmed to me on Instagram that it is Tecteun.Scott Eccles ☎  07:29, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

So in the future please include some sort of license with photos you upload. Admins here will delete them otherwise and then other users won't get to see what you're talking about. I've gone ahead and done it for you, though I'm not sure I chose the correct one - screenshots from social media uploaded on here is an area I don't know if we have a specific license for. As for the issue of the character in question, Houser's authorial intent isn't relevant here. If it isn't stated in the story (or, I guess, if the character isn't similar in appearance to the same character elsewhere, there's some weird precedent on this, see Talk:Antonio Amaral), it doesn't matter, the wiki cannot conflate them. The authorial intent is noted in the BTS section. I don't like this, but that's how the wiki does things. Najawin ☎  07:46, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * OK. Scott Eccles ☎  07:50, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * That policy doesn't seem very helpful. This comic had a license to use Tecteun and it has been clarified by the writer that the character is in fact Tecteun. We're helping no-one by not saying that on-wiki. It only serves to fulfill some, in this case, pointless and draconian policy. Our priority should be to be useful to our readers, not fulfilling annoying policies and precedents like this. Bongo50   ☎  15:20, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I agree. Look at it this way, if we were writing a physical encyclopedia, what would we do? Acknowledge this character in the relevant page for Tecteun, or hide it away under the page "Division Leader"? Of course it'd be under Tecteun.


 * Now, I think generally the character should be treated as vaguely as the source material does, so apart from the page name, lead, and on the main Tecteun article, we should just refer to this character as the "Division Leader" and/or "Time Lord", but we should still acknowledge this character as Tecteun.


 * That being said, there is a case for keeping them separate, on the basis of how we treated the Curator when The Day of the Doctor was first broadcast, or, more recently, how we are treating the "agent" in Is anyone receiving these transmissions? who was intended to be Zoria, but not explicitly stated.


 * My heart leans to acknowledging this character as Tecteun, but under current policy and precedent, I'm not sure that's possible. 16:50, 20 September 2022 (UTC)