User talk:OttselSpy25

<div style="background-color: transparent;	border: 1px dashed #2f2cb8;	color: #000;	margin: 2em 0 1em;	padding: .5em 1em;	vertical-align: middle;       align:center;        width:90%;        line-height:110%;        font-size:95%;	text-align: justify;        -moz-border-radius:10px !important;        -webkit-border-radius:10px !important;         border-radius:10px !important;         -moz-box-shadow:0 0 40px #2f2cb8 !important;         -webkit-box-shadow:0 0 40px #2f2cb8 !important;         box-shadow:0 0 40px #2f2cb8 !important;">

Welcome to the OttselSpy25!

We hope you'll enjoy being a part of our community! If you're new to either us or wiki editing in general, you might want to check out some of these links:
 * Internal pages
 * Help pages
 * Manual of Style
 * Forums
 * Recent changes
 * User page policy


 * External Wikipedia pages
 * How to edit a page
 * Editing, policy, conduct, and structure tutorial
 * Picture tutorial

Remember that you should always sign your comments on talk and vote pages using four tildes like this:  ~

Thanks for becoming a member of the TARDIS crew! If you have any questions, see the Help pages, add a question to one of the Forums or ask on my user talk page.

Cybermen
I've done it after the discussion at Talk:Cybermen. I don't see how they can be considered "entirely different" anymore. And Mondasian Cybermen are definitely not any more notable than Cybus Cybermen according to this wiki's policy. The main page should either be an overview of both types of Cybermen, like now, or a disambiguation page. Ausir(talk) 05:19, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Nice Job, RiverLover
Good job on the River Song page. I like your photo you added. Keep it up! Chris! 22:16, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

category:season 6b
Hi :) Thanks for your efforts to add categories.  However, please do not add categories which do not apply to the entire contents of a work.  The Short Trips collections to which you've been adding Category:Season 6B do not contain only stories set in 6B, making the category you wish to apply inappropriate.   I have rolled back the few of your efforts that were immediately apparent to me.  However, if you can think of other instances where you've similarly added this (or similar) cats, I'd appreciate it if you'd roll them back yourself.  It's very important that we maintain a clean and accurate category tree on this wiki.  Thanks!  :)  00:17:57 Sun 28 Aug 2011

Please don't make frivolous edits just to get Achievements
Hey, the Achievements thing is brand new, so we're all just trying to understand how it all works. Still we do have some rules in place at tardis:achievements policy. Please make sure you read and understand these.

The important point of those rules is that we want to avoid making edits just to get awards. It's pretty obvious that your message on user talk:Skittles the hog wasn't a real attempt at communicating, but rather so that you would get the Churchill award and thereby pass Skittles for the night. I mean, you didn't even sign the post, which is required under tardis:discussion policy.

Now of course it's cool in the first day or two to test things out. But I just wanted to make sure you understand that the point of Achievements is to encourage genuine editing that makes the site better.

Thanks for editing with us today, and I hope you continue enjoying Achievements! 03:35:35 Sun 28 Aug 2011

Note to Self
The Amateur

Pictures
Hi :) Thanks very much for your recent picture uploads. A couple of points, though, that will improve your contributions in future.
 * We don't allow the .gif format. At all.  Please don't upload this format in future.  Any current .gif-formatted pictures that you may have uploaded are subject to immediate deletion.
 * All pictures must have an image license attached. We recognise that the new editing page that Wikia dumped on us yesterday allows you upload a picture in a way that bypasses the normal upload page altogether, and so you may not even see the licensing drop-down menu.  Until we can get this corrected, we recommend that you only upload through Special:Upload or Special:MultipleUpload, so that you have convenient access to the licensing drop-down. (Both of these pages are linkable on the user toolbar which strips along the bottom of every page.  Also, the "add a photo" button in the right column of most pages links to Special:Upload.)  Images without licenses are subject to automatic deletion by bot through a routine process which is not monitored by a human being.

If you haven't done so, please consult tardis:image use policy for a more complete list of policies affecting image uploads and use. Thanks :) 12:09:17 Thu 08 Sep 2011


 * Okay, you've had the nice warning. Do not continue uploading .gif files.-- 15:01, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

It appears the image I was referring to was anomalous.-- 15:05, September 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hello again. I note that you have today uploaded yet another image without a copyright license: file:Silurian.jpg.  I do thank you for helping us with our project, but copyright templates are very important.  You cannot continue to "forget" putting them on.  Remember, we do not own' these images.  We have a duty to give a picture's copyright status if we want to seriously maintain any sort of "fair use" argument.


 * Please do not upload any more images without ensuring that one of our copyright templates is attached.  06:58:02 Mon 12 Sep 2011


 * Thank you very much for your recent efforts to add copyright templates to your uploads! It seriously frees up time the admin staff can then use on other matters.   20:49:58 Thu 15 Sep 2011

Categories
Please do not add the category Uncanon stories to articles. For starters, uncanon isn't word, but more importantly, each of the articles you added it to was already categories under non-canonical stories, so I'm not sure why you were doing this. In future, please ensure you are not adding unnecessary categories. Thanks-- 14:33, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Well, yes, I did relise this after a little while. The cofusion was caused by, and you can check this for truth, that I was editing The Invasion of Bash Street when I noticed that there was no Category on it for the fact that it was uncanon (other than the parodies and pastiches category) so I typed in Un canon (yes, I was not ware that it wasn't a word) and found no Category's for it. Thus, I decided to create one. Once I relised that there was already a Non-Canon Catigory, however, I ceased adding pages to it. OttselSpy25 00:09, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Nice Badges

MM/ Want to talk? 23:05, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

GREETINGS
Hi, I'm Patrick Watt, Esquire... whatever that means. I'm delighted to make your acquaintance, provided you've read this message, which, as per my pessimistic nature, I've already assumed is a "no".

But... what was I talking about? Oh, yes, I was asking if you like South Park. I'm assuming that based on your avatar. Well, do you? What are your favorite TV shows?

file:500.jpg
There are several flawss in the upload named above. First of all, it violates the tardis:Manual of Style and tardis:image use policy by being a colour photo of the black and white era. Because it's in colour, that means it can't possibly be a screenshot. It's therefore a publicity shot and out of universe. Therefore it can't be used to illustrate an in-universe page like 500 year diary. The only page this particular image could possibly be placed is Patrick Troughton. Because it's a publicity image — and again, we know this because it's a colour pic from the black-and-white era — the only place you can put it is on the page of the actor seen in the photo. However, shots of the actor in costume are not particularly desirable on out-of-universe actor pages, as we generally want to see the actor out of costume and makeup — in their street clothes, really.

So I'm deleting the pic.

More importantly, however, it's really important that you put not just any on your files, but the correct one. You called this pic an image from a comic book, which it clearly isn't. I thought that you were beginning to understand our image licensing policy, but it appears you're just trying to technically satisfy the requirement, withotu actually caring so much about accuracy. These copyright templates also add a category to a file. If you put the wrong template on the file, it will go into the wrong category, which makes it harder to maintain the database. I urge you to please take copyright templates seriously, if you wish to retain the privilege to upload photos here. 04:05: Tue 11 Oct 2011

Sorry, I got so used to uploading Comic files that I seem to accidentialy put that category on alot. I've done it before, but gone in and fixed it, however it seems I have forgotten this time. Sorry for the confusion, I'll try and do better next time. --OttselSpy25 talk to me 12:42, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Block
Sorry about this, but I have to block you so that I can be sure that you have read and will understand the following. You must be dreading to see my name on your talk page already, but this is really important. I've just noticed that you have a very unconventional editing syntax that's literally destroying the fabric of the wiki.

Here's a snippet from your merry little edit war over at Doctor Who: Destiny of the Doctors
 * This story takes place somewhere in between DW: The Android Invasion and The Leisure Hive.

You cannot edit this way. I'm not quite sure where you picked up this style, but it completely goes against fundamental wiki markup. You should be linking using the following:

That's it! Isn't that a lot easier? Unless you use standard wiki markup, it's impossible for bots to find and properly change linked text. So you must use standard wiki markup. Your block allows you to edit this page. Please acknowledge that you have read and understood this message, and that you are willing to edit here using only standard wiki markup. If you do not acknowledge this message in 24 hours, your block will be extended indefinitely, until you do promise that you'll use standard linking syntax.
 * This story takes place somewhere in between DW: The Android Invasion and The Leisure Hive.

Hate to come down so harshly but your current style of editing is really quite destructive. I know, of course, that you didn't mean to do anything wrong — I certainly don't think you're a vandal or anything — but I still can't let you edit further unless you agree to standard markup. 04:56: Tue 11 Oct 2011

I have read over the message, and I promis to use the proper standard wiki markup until The End of Time. --OttselSpy25 talk to me 12:51, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) In that event, I shall now remove the block.  12:59: Tue 11 Oct 2011
 * By the way, have you been linking using URLs from the very beginning of your time with us? Or is it something you just started doing recently.  All instances of URL linkage have to be found and changed.  I'd appreciate it if you could do it yourself, because you know better than anyone else where this kind of linkage exists.  17:59: Wed 12 Oct 2011

Possibly Non-Canonical stories
Hey, can you please remove this category from all the pages you added it to and then suggest the idea at the forums. This should always be standard procedure with such a big addition and, I for one, am strongly against the idea. Thanks-- 17:13, October 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, and sorry if this seems a little harsh. Perhaps that wasn't the friendliest of messages, but I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.-- 17:17, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Deleted scenes
Well, generally you'd look at tardis:canon policy, but it's being rewritten at the moment, specifically because it doesn't contain references to forum discussions about things like deleted scenes. The prefiguring forum discussion is at forum:Are deleted scenes canon?

That discussion concludes with the notion that deleted scenes aren't canon, but that they may be referenced in "behind the scenes" sections of articles. To put it simply, the version of a story that made it onto the airwaves of the broadcaster of origin is deemed the "prime" version of the story. Generally, this means that we preference what happened on BBC One, but in the case of K9, it would be the Net10 broadcast, or for Miracle Day, it would be the Starz broadcast. 17:53: Wed 12 Oct 2011
 * Having a prefix for deleted scenes wouldn't be helpful, in my view. Deleted scenes may only be referenced on the story page themselves or in "behind the scenes" sections of articles.  They should never be referenced in the normal, in-universe parts of articles, which means there's no need for a prefix as you suggest.  Any information about deleted scenes should be made unambiguously clear, as they would be in the sentence construction, "In a deleted scene from ..." We don't want to make it at all obscure to our readers that this information was deleted.   23:40: Wed 12 Oct 2011

Second warning about proper wiki markup
I note that you have again linked by use of url rather than standard wiki text at Forum:Possibly Non-Canonical stories. I'm going to assume, however, that this is because you didn't quite know how to link directly to a category name. So let me go through some basics of help:wiki markup with you.


 * Most things link simply by putting two square braces around the word. First Doctor, Forum:Forum Name, Talk:talk page name, user:user name, user talk:user talk page name
 * If the namespace does something — like add a page to a category, or place a picture or video on a page — then you'll need to precede the page name with a colon, like: category:category name, file:file.jpg, video:videoname Putting the colon in front of the namespace means you'll make a link to the name of the object, rather than make an action happen.

I hope that makes sense. If you have questions, please ask. It's both possible and required to link to everything on this wiki using a  syntax of some kind. 02:55: Thu 13 Oct 2011