Talk:Siege of Trenzalore

The Doctor's Death
That was in an alternate timeline. It was specifically stated several times that the Doctor's survival was changing the future.--WarGrowlmon18 ☎  01:11, December 27, 2013 (UTC)

The Doctor survived, so the whole Great Intelligence issue didn't happen, but since that's the case, did the Intelligence' s fate change? I mean, those 300 years of villains waiting bored over the planet, they killed the Doctor in a now alternate timeline, what happens about the whole Name of the Doctor episode? Camjosh9 ☎  06:41, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

Camjosh makes a valid point. The events may be in the planets future but are in the Doctor's and Clara's and Vastra's pasts.

The Doctor often has shown concern about changing personal histories including his own e.g.on Gallifrey on the last day of the Time War when he thought his otherself was suggesting changing the course of events.

So there remains a good chance that the Tomb and other future (future, from the planet's POV) events will still happen.

I have not seen any evidence posted that events have been changed. I will change the article to reflect this.

If you believe that there are events or lines that prop up the idea of a change to the Planet's Future/Character's Pasts. Please post them here (with episode time index references) here so the subject can be discussed and agreed upon before any further changes are made.

Segway Segway ☎  17:57, January 2, 2014 (UTC)