User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-25041817-20150105184924/@comment-1506468-20150106224745

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-25041817-20150105184924/@comment-1506468-20150106224745 I've read over The Glorious Dead again, and have found myself to be partly in error. There is a passage during the fight between the Doctor and the Master where the Master says "In the past few months alone you have warped the Holloway woman's future...". I and a user I was talking with on the timey-wimey detector page took that as a reference to the TV Movie, where just as easily it can be a reference to The Fallen, as both involve the Doctor altering her future, by him first talking to her about it in the TV Movie, to him actually participating in it in The Fallen.

Through reading again, however, I have seen the passage you referenced earlier on, where the Master claims that his echo in the TARDIS is used to control the ship, and Kroton does purge that essence from the TARDIS at the end of the story. Given this revelation that has been overlooked in the past, it's pretty clear that The Glorious Dead must take place after the books, where the Master still does have a presence within the TARDIS.