Talk:Trenzalore

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Is this when the Doctor tells River Song his name? The only time he could. (Silence in the Library)

Invictus152 talk to me 07:44, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think he actually might have told her in The Wedding of River Song. He said that he did, and I know that the Doctor lies but since in Forest of the Dead he said there was only one reason he would ever tell anyone his name, it makes sense that that one reason would be if he married her. Since he did in the episode, it seems reasonable to assume that he would have told her his name.

Mandalore74 talk to me 22:08, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Silence MUST fall.
The Doctor said "look into my eye" when he 'married' River Song next to the transmitter before he went to his 'death'. He didn't tell River his name at that point, and I for one don't think that was a 'proper' wedding.

This article I think is wrong, because it says that The Silence (the religous order) fear the question's answer because it means they will fall. What would be more correct, is that The Silence fear the answer to the question and are determined that silence (quietness) MUST fall when it is asked.

I've read somewhere that Moffat reckons he's got it all figured out, and that he's going to somehow tie together all the random stuff into the one big story arc. That remains to be seen, as it's one incredible task - given that a lot of plot feels like Moffat has made it up as he went along.

Add1989 talk to me 18:32, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Trenzalore was a place that, according to Dorium Maldovar, would be where the First Question in the Universe would be answered truthfully. The Doctor would arrive there at some point in his travels, at the fall of the Eleventh. The religious order known as the Silence was determined to ensure that the Doctor never reached Trenzalore. (DW: The Wedding of River Song)

History
Let's regress for a moment back to the Men in Black(MIB). According to John Keel, the MIB often state that they are representatives of the "Nation of the Third Eye." Based on some of the info already researched, it is apparent that Sirius has been in contact with humanity for a long time. According to George Hunt Williamson (one of the early contactees) in his book "Other Tongues, Other Flesh," the earth allies of Sirius, i.e., the secret societies, use the Eye of Horus as an insignia. This symbol has also been seen on the MIB. Secret societies believe that there is a Great White Lodge on earth. They call it Shamballa -- and consider it to be the spiritual center of the world. Now, theosophists such as Alice Bailey say that the Great White Lodge is on Sirius. If the All-Seeing-Eye is a symbol of Sirius' earth-allies and the MIB wear that symbol, and if Shamballa represents the Great White Lodge on earth -- then the MIB are emissaries of Shamballa. Sirius and Shamballa are two sides of the same coin. This is verified in the book "The Undiscovered Country," by Stephen Jenkins. Jenkins was told by Buddhist priests that Shamballa was located in the constellation of Orion. The entrance to Shamballa on earth is usually placed in the trans-Himalayan region. Some assert it is in the heart of the Gobi Desert (where there have been allegations of crashed disks and bases). According to the explorer Nicholas Roerich, there are caves in the Himalayas foothills that have subterranean passages. In one of the these passages, there is a stone door that has never been opened, because the time for its opening has not yet arrived. In 1930, Doreal founded the Brotherhood of the White Temple. He says that the entrance to Shamballa is far underground. he goes on to say that space bends around Shamballa, and that there is a warp which leads into another universe.

"The Fall of the Eleventh"
Am i the only one thinking this doesn't mean the Doctor will fall? according to what i hear some scenes will be in Victorian Scotland (Wikipedia: The Name of the Doctor) with the whisper men so trenzalore could be on earth with EARTH TIME. The fall of the eleventh could mean at 11 o'clock. Also there are new creatures in this episode called Whispermen which is intresting.