User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-4028641-20170222073756/@comment-1789834-20170226040443

I'm going to have to be completely honest with you. This debate ran dry a few comments back. There's no new "proof" on the table apart from that dodgy Moffat quote. Until we find proof, we can't call this movie "valid" without going out on a limb. The thing that'll prove it valid is intent, which has been said three million and one times in the thread (if you don't mind me rounding up slightly). No-one says (or even suggests- I'll settle for inference) that those Daleks are from the DWU, we can't make this truly valid. If we do, we'd be jumping to conclusions. This back-and-forth is getting us nowhere and is incredibly tiresome. That's not meant to be a hurtful comment, I'd expect us all to be getting run down by this tbh.

And for the record, Terrance Dicks did some amazing work. To say he did a bad job is ridiculous. You can have your opinion and I can have mine, and my opinion is that Moffat uses the "there's no canon" card to escape anything he's done. He used to do it all the time in his DWM column. Dick's novels, the best (imho) being The Eight Doctors, I incredibly enjoyed. And it filled numerous gaps. Not related to this discussion, but I just thought I should stand up for him. Without him, the Whoniverse would be a much more confusing place.

I'll become much more active on this thread when one of you finds something that seals the deal. Until then, I don't see this thread serving much more of a purpose. It's just an area for you and Amorkus to agree and disagree and agree and disagree whilst bringing nothing new forward. Again, not meant to be hurtful, just pointing it out.

See you soon. And just a word of advice for the both of you, after looking through your discussions earlier, it seemed like you were getting a little too heated. We all love this Wiki but at the end of the day, it's just a small corner of the internet. When you've written a comment, take a couple of minutes to read it through a couple of times before publishing it. As we've already learnt, things can get taken out of context haha.