User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-1783865-20200302103744/@comment-6032121-20200316122518

I didn't mean to exclude the Curator and have now edited him back in.

The necessity of a template giving all Doctors is yet another good reason to also have the navbox, but there is a practical concern to how large and all-encompassing we can make Template:Doctors before it becomes too unwieldy for use. Certainly it doesn't break T:NPOV to not include parallel versions and copies, just choosing to stick to characters whom some sources say are part of the Doctor's regeneration history (a criterion by which the Watcher, the Valeyard and the Meta-Crisis Doctor belong on there, but not e.g. the Dream Lord).

As for whether to include all the other proper incarnations, even the short-lived unnamed ones, a good precedent might be the decision for Template:Masterpic to include some non-TV Masters to make it clear that TV isn't all there is, but not every single incarnation ever. Template:Doctors doesn't claim to be exhaustive (we could make that clearer by linking to "More incarnations" at the end of the "Other incarnations" section?), but rather a handy out-of-universe navigation tool. Respecting T:NPOV here, I think, per the Masterpic precedent, just means not giving special treatment to Doctors from one specific medium; but it doesn't necessarily bind us to using all incarnations.

I am, anyway, unsure, @Danniesen, of why you put Muldwych, "14" and so on in "Other incarnations" rather than "non-specific placement". In what way are they different from Jo Martin?

Here's what I'd have in mind: Incarnations of the Doctor Widely accepted • 1 • 2 • 3 • 4 • 5 • 6 • 7 • 8 • • War • 9 • 10 • 11 • 12 • 13 • Other selves & unplaced incarnations • Timeless Child • "Fugitive" • • Muldwych • "Relic" • Curator • More… • More ambiguous • The Other • "Morbius" • The Watcher • • The Valeyard • Meta-Crisis •