Forum:People from archive footage

I think there should be a more fitting subcategory of Category:Doctor Who actors who played themselves for people whose appearances were via archive footage rather than deliberate acting on the program. People such as John Lennon, the Beatles, and the Queen aren't really best described as "Doctor Who actors," in my opinion. What do the rest of you think? If you agree, what would be a good name for the new category? Rob T Firefly 17:02, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Created as Category:People who appeared in archive footage as themselves. Rob T Firefly 07:20, April 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * That seems okay. Good work. --Tangerineduel 13:09, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree it's a necessary categorical distinction. But I've removed Category:Doctor Who actors who played themselves and this new subcat from Category:People from the real world.  That's mixing DWU and OOU categories.  The pages within should certainly be tagged in both cats (they're those rare pages that reasonably get the crossover), but not the cats themselves.  I don't like the nomenclature "People who appeared in archive footage as themselves", because that goes against the naming standards recently established.  It should be, "Real world people who appeared in archive footage". The phrase, "as themselves", is redundant.  Obviously if they're in archive footage, they are themselves.  What else would they be? Aliens?  Social democrats?  Crossdressers?)  Also, the whole point of the exercise was to say that they're not acting, so the cat shouldn't be within any sort of "acting" category at all.  This thing should be, and now is, directly under Category:Real world people.   Czech Out   ☎ | ✍  16:03, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good points all. I do think this cat needs some link with Category:Doctor Who actors who played themselves because their characters are involved in the narrative, so there is the strong IU aspect.  Checking the applicable articles, they are all IU. I'm not entirely sure whether it'd be best served as a subcat of said category or what, perhaps a "see also" on the cat pages in question would do it rather than nesting cats.  I think the "as themselves" bit is important for the same reason; it's not just a matter of "some guy in the stock footage crowd" but the deliberate use of a real person's image in an episode. Rob T Firefly 22:15, April 19, 2010 (UTC)