Talk:The Stolen Earth (TV story)

RTD and Gallifrey
Was RTD the one that came up with the idea that Gallifrey was destroyed? Tweedle dee 23:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes I belive so. The idea had been used before in the spin off novels but the Time War mentioned in the currant series was his idea. (I seem to remember there was a planned story which would feature the destruction of Gallifrey for the old series but it was replaced with the Trial of a Time Lord arc.

Next Week
Is it a double bill next week? The Stolen Earth and Journey's End?Tweedle dee 02:43, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

vandalism
The page was vandalised, I tried to fix it, undoing wouldn't work, and now when I fixed it, it turned out horribly as you can see and I don't know how to fix it. So if someone else could, here's everything: --Sir Koji 12:51, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

- "The Children of Time are moving against us, but everything is falling into place...Welcome to my new empire, Doctor!"

- Davros -   -    - == Synopsis == - Earth's greatest heroes assemble in a time of dire need, but can the Doctor's secret army defeat the might of the new Dalek Empire? -   - With battles on the streets and in the skies, the Doctor and Donna must brave the Shadow Proclamation to find out the truth. However, a fearsome old enemy waits in the shadows. -   - == Plot == - to be added -   - ==Cast== - *The Doctor - David Tennant - *Donna Noble - Catherine Tate - *Rose Tyler - Billie Piper - *Martha Jones - Freema Agyeman - *Captain Jack Harkness - John Barrowman - *Mickey Smith - Noel Clarke - *Sarah Jane Smith - Elisabeth Sladen - *Jackie Tyler - Camille Coduri - *Gwen Cooper - Eve Myles - *Ianto Jones - Gareth David-Lloyd - *Luke Smith - Tommy Knight - *Maria Jackson - Yasmin Paige - *Clyde Langer - Daniel Anthony - *Davros - Julian Bleach - *Sylvia Noble - Jacqueline King - *Wilfred Mott - Bernard Cribbins - *Harriet Jones - Penelope Wilton - *Francine Jones - Adjoa Andoh - *General Sanchez - Michael Brandon - *Dalek voice - Nicholas Briggs - *((Judoon Captain))- Paul Kasey -   - ==Production crew== - to be added -   -    - == References == - *General Sanchez is heard saying "Ladies and gentlemen, we are at war." This was last said by Captain Jack Harkness in The Parting Of The Ways. -   - == Story notes == - *This episode was the last of Series 4 to have its title revealed. - *This is the third time that the Daleks have returned with a leader in a finale. In the 2005 finale, The Parting of the Ways, the Daleks were led by the Dalek Emperor and in 2006 finale, Doomsday, Dalek Sec led the Cult of Skaro. ''The Other Dalek two parter in 2007 Series was shown as the 4th & 5th Episodes of the Series (Daleks in Manhattan and Evolution of the Daleks). The Daleks were the Cult of Skaro.'' - *Davros refers to Donna Noble, Martha Jones, Rose Tyler, and possibly the minor companions as The Children Of Time. - *Sarah Jane Smith has already had past experience in dealing and/or fighting against Davros with The Doctor, albeit in his fourth incarnation. However Sarah Jane could be the one with the knowledge about how to destroy Davros and the circumstances on which he came to Earth. She may prove vital in the battle to come. -   - === Ratings === - To be added -   - === Myths === - to be added -   - ===Rumours=== - *The Children Of Time are the Doctor's companions, who have travelled in time but not as long as the Daleks, Davros, the Doctor etc, hence the term "Children". This means Rose, Mickey, Martha, Donna and possibly Sarah Jane and Captain Jack Harkness. - *In the trailer for Stolen Earth, it appears to show a Dalek entering Torchwood Three (Cardiff). - *A leaked picture shows Dalek Caan (in gold armour, NOT red) with his front taken off, exposing the "true Dalek" inside. He is (unknown if willingly) connected to a cloning machine (in keeping with the clone theme of series 4) which is used to produce all the other Daleks seen in the episode. - *It is rumored Davros speedily created the new Dalek race by using a progenation machine similar to the one shown in The Doctor's Daughter or a cloning machine. - *The Daleks invade UNIT. ''In the mid series trailer some Daleks were seen with the UNIT logo behind them. There is also a character called General Sanchez who is said to work for UNIT. Also, three Daleks in the new 30 second trailer are seen in a base with what appears to be an American flag and a sign on a desk similar to the base seen in The Poison Sky''. - *As the Daleks invade UNIT, Martha Jones manages to escape using a teleport, which takes her to New York. - *The Eighth-Ninth Doctor Regeneration is explained. - *Gallifrey is restored. This is a possibility as it has been rumoured that RTD wants to erase all he has changed in Doctor Who, ready for when Steven Moffat takes over. - *Planets disappearing has been a recurring theme in series 4 and now that the Earth has been 'stolen' it appears to be the next one. - *Gallifrey is one of the stolen planets and is restored at the end of the battle. Unlikely, Gallifrey burned - *The Judoon are the guards for the Shadow Proclamation. - *Donna may look into the heart of the TARDIS and become the Bad Wolf entity. The Doctor (If he is trapped in the Medusa Cascade) will not be able to help her. - *The BBC One website states that Francine Jones, Martha's mother, will reappear in this episode. The website doesn't include Harriet Jones, despite her appearing in the next time trailer. - *Jenny may come back. ''Unlikely as she is not listed in cast list. However, neither is Harriet Jones.'' - *Earth is not in its own solar system, it is seen in the trailer with planets not from our solar system, close enough to be seen by the naked eye on Earth. On the other hand if it is the end of the universe, space could be retracting. - *The 'secret of the vault' has to do with the red Dalek. - *The 'Children Of Time' are the Doctors companions. - *In Doctor Who Confidential for the episode Turn Left, RTD mentioned that the TARDIS may be exploding, he also mentioned the fact that the bees are disappearing (and sounded surprised that it is happening in real life also), and that something from every episode would tie together in the finale. - *Davros has created the Daleks by taking humans from the future and coming back in time to kill their ancestors in a similar way to The Sound of Drums and Last of the Time Lords. ''This conflicts with the rumor that Davros is using Dalek Caan as a template for new Daleks. Furthermore, this concept has already been explored in The Parting of the Ways.'' - *The TARDIS has been turned into a Paradox machine. Again Unlikely. - *River Song will return again. This is unlikely as River Song did not recognize Donna in Silence in the Library. - *The Universe is shattering which gives Rose the ability to cross between worlds - *There are other worlds, capable for people on Earth to see with the naked eye, so it is possible that planets are being moved to another galaxy for a parallel world, meaning the Earth has been stolen - *This place the planets are being taken to could be the Medusa Cascade - *Davros and a Dalek army were sealed in rift at the Medusa Cascade during the Time War but now they have freed themselves, causing a fracture in which all universes are collapsing. This gives Rose the ability to travel between worlds. Davros then wants to destroy the TARDIS inside the Medusa Cascade rift, or Cardiff rift, to blow a hole in time which will allow Skaro to be saved but could result in Gallifrey being restored. - *Davros wants to destroy the TARDIS inside the Medusa Cascade to blow a hole in time which will allow Davros to save Skaro. - *It is rumoured that Gwen and/or Ianto will die as the trailer shows them huddled along with Jack who is saying he can't stop something, as Daleks invade the Hub. This would tie in with rumours of Martha, Rose and/or Mickey being recruited to Torchwood, as Jack would need new staff if they had been killed off. ''This is EXTREMELY unlikely as Gwen and Ianto are main characters on Torchwood. Main characters are rarely killed off outside their own shows. Plus there is a third series of Torchwood. Also 2 members of Torchwood already died in the second series finale and an online article stated that 2 new members would join the Torchwood cast''. - *The Judoon are servants of the Shadow Proclamation as they are "Intergalactic Police" and part of the function of the Shadow Proclamation appears to involve the upholding of galactic law. - *The Children of Time could be Time Lords, supporting the return of Gallifrey theory. That would mean there are now Time Lords. ''One unresolved story element was the Face of Boe's last words, "You are not alone." While in season 3 this appeared to be an allusion to the Master's return, it could also mean that the Children of Time are Time Lords that also survived the Time War, perhaps even members of the Deca.'' - *The secret the Doctor has kept about the Time War is that he allowed Gallifrey to be stolen. - *Another clue to the return of Gallifrey theory is, in The Fires of Pompeii, Evelina says The Doctor's name is hidden in the Medusa Cascade and the only people who could know his name are people from his home planet - *Davros reveals that he has been in control of the Shadow Proclamation since he escaped back in Remembrance of the Daleks and that the Judoon find out that Davros has killed the Leaders of the Shadow Proclamation. Where as the Judoon, The Daleks and Davros all wage war to gain control of the Shadow Proclamation. - *Donna Noble is revealed to be a Time Lord who is currently in Human Form. ''Unlikely as there have been no hints or suggestions that she was adopted by the Nobles. Also, both the Doctor and the Master experienced flashes of memory and headaches whenever confronted by anything associated with time travel.'' - *Davros is using the Medusa Cascade to steal breeding worlds (The Adipose planet, Sontaran breeding world etc.etc) and he's using them to breed more ruthless Daleks after Dalek Caan told him about what happened to the Cult of Skaro. - *The Daleks want to eliminate the Children of Time; they try to assassinate each member starting with UNIT, then at the home of Harriet Jones (Three Daleks are seen in the 30 sec trailer to be inside a rural cottage), followed by London. - *Daleks Alpha, Beta and Omega from Evil of the Daleks return, being The Children of Time. This is unlikely as all the humanized Daleks were presumed killed at the end of Evil of the Daleks. - *Flydale North might appear as Harriet Jones is not in office and the Daleks try to kill her at her home as she is a member of The Children of Time. - *Davros tortures Dalek Caan after hearing that Caan has failed his missions twice. He also mentions Nyder to Dalek Caan Saying "Nyder has always been my best ally, unlike you, you pathetic machine". - *In the trailer, there appears to be a space battle occurring between the Dalek fleet and a fleet of Shadow Proclamation ships like the one seen in Partners In Crime. - *At one point in the trailer, a Dalek ship appears above Chiswick and appears to destroy a street of housing. Possible, as an explosion was heard after the Dalek ship clip. - *Daleks have been trapped in the Rift in Cardiff, and the Rift is opened, freeing them. Highly unlikely. - *The Judoon are their to help a companion (possibly rose)although in the trailer the woman with white hair asks for the doctor. - *The opening credits are in the following order: - David Tennant - Catherine Tate - Freema Agyeman - John Barrowman - with Elisabeth Sladen - and Billie Piper which means Martha Jones will play an important part in the story (more important than Captain Jack and Rose etc.) - *Luke Smith is kidnapped by the Daleks and dies -   - === Filming Locations === - Caerphilly -   - === Discontinuity, Plot Holes, Errors === - to be added -   -    -    - == DVD and Other releases == - *This is due to be released in the Series 4 boxset in November 2008 along with the rest of the Series. - *It will be released as part of Series 4 Volume 4 alongside Turn Left and Journey's End in September 2008. -   - ==See also== - *Bad Wolf meme -   - ==External links== - to be added -   -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -

Character changes
Luke Smith looks way older in these episodes(with awesome hair, just like the Doctor!)