Talk:Iris Wildthyme

The metafictional thing
She's not always metaficitonal. Certainly she's not in either Excelis Dawns or The Wormery, the two adventures she has in a "proper" Doctor Who adventure. I'll grant she kind of is within her own stories, but not even all of them. She's not aware of her metafictional nature in The Panda Invasion, for instance. We might think that the jokes are metafictional, asthe audience, because the script recalls moments from DW's past, but she herself never comments upon her own nature like that. It's played completely straight, allowing the listener to decide. There's a difference between in-jokes and metafiction. I think the article needs to cite specific instances, and to mention the fact that there are a number of appearances which do not portray her as actively aware of the similarities between her adventures and those of the Doctor.  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍ 02:58, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Out Of Order?
She meets The Doctor out of order. Just like River Song.
 * Yes, and? What's your point? She and River aren't the only people to have done so. It means very little. And if that's what you're getting at, those are unbelievably flimsy grounds to suggest that she and River are one and the same… though in fairness, "River Song" doesn't feel too implausible as one of Iris's potential shifting pasts that might get mentioned someday. (Might is however the operative word. The whole thing remains tinfoiled speculation.) --Scrooge MacDuck ☎  23:20, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Companion Sexuality
It seems odd to me that Iris's companions have random notes of their sexuality, which is something that plays very little in importance to the story. such as "Traffic warden, (a confirmed lesbian)"

and

"Tom (who was gay)"

It seems incredibly odd and out of place for this wiki, considering there is a whole page of other information available for Jenny and Tom. Surely that information of their adventures is more important than something so trivial? specially when accounting for the fact this isnt done for Oliver Harper on the First Doctor's page. Perhaps removing of these rather out of place notes and fleshing out the section in general is in order?

Route22
Does anything in Buyer's Remorse really say she's Route22? Especially considering she's not owned by the author or the BBC, and the various bidders including Route22 are only identified by their silhouette. -- Tybort (talk page) 22:13, April 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * I'd say it's clearer than all those times when Virgin used/referenced Daleks without a license to use them. The name "Route22" is derived from Iris' routemaster that says its heading to 22 Putney Common. Route22's silhouette is that of "a woman in an extraordinarily large hat". She has Iris' speech patterns. Route22 quickly leaves the auction upon learning that the TARDIS being sold is the Doctor's TARDIS, something that would make sense for Iris to do. CoT     ?  22:37, April 20, 2017 (UTC)

New Infobox image
Going through the Iris Wildthyme covers, I came across a image which I believe is better suited to the infobox than the current one. Not only Iris is looking left instead of front. but also it doesn't have "unnatural lighting": that is, there isn't an orange filter over it. For further discussion, I'll place them both under a gallery. OncomingStorm12th ☎  18:03, September 1, 2018 (UTC)


 * Decided to give the illustration a go. If anybody has any objections, feel free to revert my edit. Epsilon the Eternal ☎  03:07, September 4, 2020 (UTC)