User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-1451563-20180913002703/@comment-1451563-20190112185233

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-1451563-20180913002703/@comment-1451563-20190112185233 So correct me if I’m wrong, but we still have no in-universe prescription for referring to Time Lords generally with “they”; it is primarily being done out of out-of-universe ideas being brought into the show. So what’s the problem? The only pronouns we have ever heard any Time Lords ever use/accept are “he” or “she”; and the only in-universe instances there have been of referring to Time Lords with general pronouns suggest still using “he” or “she.” Heck, we even have slightly dubious descriptions of how Time Lords - or in some cases perhaps only the Doctor - view gender (or rather, don’t at all) that even still in themselves continue to support the he/she usage either directly or through simply not specifying any difference from how the he/she pronouns have been used up to that point. So so far I would still argue the “rule #1” idea of generally following the lead of what the majority of in-universe pronouns suggest that we have for some reason not been following in this case is still not in favor of “they.” And that’s not to saying anything about the secondary consequences that have not been addressed relating to this decision and the grammatical issues connected with it (which I of course agree would ultimately have to be trumped by a story’s explicit prescription of using the “they” pronoun, such as in the case of a character like Orr, for example). Furthermore, series 11 arguably did present some even more evidence of the gendered thought Time Lords have been shown to experience the whole time, with the Doctor’s forgetting to switch her pronouns. The he/she usage has been supported consistently through and through.