User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-1296654-20191020223216/@comment-25117610-20191020224948

I absolutely agree on both of your points. I assume the discussion comes from the following segment of Tardis:Images and perspective (and, to be more precise, how we're enforcing it): For in-universe articles, images must come from an in-universe source, such as a screenshot of a televised episode, or a scan of a comic strip. Novel or audio covers may also be potential sources for in-universe imagery, but only when no other source has an image to offer.

I get that, currently, we're enforcing it literally. If there's any trace of a comic/TV/webcast representation of a subject, we automatically discard any representation of audio/novel covers. But let's be honest. Do we really want to "throw away" dozens of covers depicting Liv Chenka because a "manifestation" of her appears in a (somewhat visually crowded) single panel in a comic story?

Must we ignore 'all covers that feature Evelyn Smythe because one single webcast features her? (I'm absolutely ok with the infobox image coming from there, though, because there's plenty of screentime for us to find a suitable image, as it's currently present).

Are we really to stop ourselves showing the Eighth Doctor alongside Charlotte Pollard, Lucie Miller, Molly O'Sullivan, Liv Chenka, Helen Sinclair, Bliss, et al, even though they never have (and probably never will) have full appearances outside of the audio format?

My understanding is that this segment guides us towards trying to use audio and novel covers on the infobox of, for example, any Doctor and their TV companions. And that's very understandable. After all, we'll have at least a few dozen episodes with each of them to choose images from, so why use a promotional picture?

But the nature of audio and novel characters (and specific incarnations of Time Lords) are entirely different from those of TV and comic characters. I can't see any advantage of forcing ourselves to use, for example, file:Lucie Vortex Butterflies.jpg (the only comic depiction of (a manifestation of) Lucie Miller, currently 282px wide (while policy states that images should be 420px) when we have several covers where we can get images like file:LucieSistersOfTheFlame.jpg or file:LucieBeastOfOrlok.png, both of which are over 420px and make the character much more recognisable to any reader.