Talk:Dalek mutant/Archive 1

Kaled mutant ala mode
So, Kaled mutants are edible. Yuck. Why would anyone even want to eat one?! 'Specially a live one! They're all mucousy... I'd can't imagine they'd be very flavourful. >.<  Trak Nar  Ramble on 06:30, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Some minor things that could be mentioned?
Well, in regards to post-Time War Kaled mutants having only one eye... If you look closely, you can see that there is a second vestigal eye. It may not be a functioning eye, but it is indeed a second eye.

Also, in Jubilee, the uncanned Dalek, while being tortured, demonstrates an accelerated healing ability, as its flesh had begun to grow over Farrow's hand. Should that be mentioned?  Trak Nar  Ramble on 07:10, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

New Picture
Would it be better to have adifferent picture here? Seeing as the one currently featured is the dying mutant form TV:Dalek. Wouldn't it be better to show the emperor or Dalek Sec? Or Caan for that matter. Taccer 07 19:19, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * From the new series, Dalek Sec is probably the best choice. Caan was slightly deranged and looked that way more than the other Daleks - especially with the destroyed casing.  The Emperor is also a relatively unique case in that he's huge.


 * Genesis of the Daleks might provide a good image.--TheOmnius 20:17, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I am not too sure about Sec, since he seems to be uniquely endowed with long tentacles. He may have gone through some changes before he opened his casing.  Variations of the mutant body structure could be featured within the article, though.  But to use Sec as a representative of the race as a whole?   Trak Nar  Ramble on 07:46, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I think Cann would be okay as he doesn't seem to look any different to the standard, even if his case is wrecked and he moves too much... Taccer 07 17:56, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * As an example of a Kaled mutant, I agree that Caan would make a good representative. He may be mentally out of sorts, but he is a healthy mutant.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 08:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, I was discussing this image matter with my brother earlier this evening, and he suggested "Why not just use a drawing?" I agreed, but due to my tenure on Wookieepedia and their policies on artwork (it needs to be official, only), then I suspect that this wiki has the same policy.  Nevertheless, here.  Otherwise, Caan would still make a good representative of the species as a whole.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 04:39, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

What about Ressurection of the Daleks, that has a good picture.--Liquid Ink 01:24, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Why was Dalek Sec different?
I mean, he was green, had extremely long tentacles, and had a "trunk" that swallow people. Did he get these by experimenting on himself?

Oh, and we should get pictures of him "swallowing" Diagoras as well. -Unsigned
 * All the Kaled mutants were green in the classic series (and, for that matter, as early as the Peter Cushing films). See for example the Seventh Doctor's summary of the Daleks as "little green blobs in bonded polycarbide armour". I'm not quite sure why NuWho changed it, or why they returned to it for Sec specifically, but there you have it: green is an entirely normal color for a Dalek.
 * As for the rest, well, the Cult of Skaro were specially-created Daleks, whose DNA can be assumed to be a little different from rank-and-file Daleks'. The different appearance might just be another way he differs from normal Daleks. But all that's unconfirmed, albeit likely. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎  00:25, December 15, 2018 (UTC)
 * As for the rest, well, the Cult of Skaro were specially-created Daleks, whose DNA can be assumed to be a little different from rank-and-file Daleks'. The different appearance might just be another way he differs from normal Daleks. But all that's unconfirmed, albeit likely. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎  00:25, December 15, 2018 (UTC)

New Dalek Paradigm mutant
after they made the originals in Victory of the Daleks how did they get more mutants to build a empire

Kingalien talk to me 22:21, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * …Cloning, presumably? This is hardly the place to ask, anyway. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎  00:25, December 15, 2018 (UTC)

Kaled/Dalek mutant
I think the fact the Daleks are primarily descended from Kaleds makes "Kaled mutant" the standard designation. And there's already the "Dalek of human origin" page, and even in one alternate timeline, the Master was helping convert Draconians and Sontarans and other aliens into Daleks, so the common factor in Daleks seems to be that they're just mutations. Steed ☎  14:14, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * On the face of it this argument made sense, but there is also the varying account of what species the main Daleks evolved out of to take into account. Genesis of Evil features what we would term the first Kaled mutants, on Skaro, prominently, yet they mutated out of a race already called Daleks, not the Kaleds later introduced in Genesis of the Daleks. And that's without even going into The Daleks’s statement that it was the Dals who mutated into the Daleks.


 * "Kaled mutant" is certainly not an untenable name for this page (we've used it long enough without trouble, after all), but "Dalek mutant" is equally supported by the sources and unlike "Kaled mutant" accurately covers all we want to be talking about on this page, rather than merely "most of it". As part of this wave of overhauling our records of Dalek history that's been going on, I think this rename would be most welcome, with "Kaled mutant" obviously staying on as a redirect. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎  22:16, September 24, 2019 (UTC)
 * Just to add to the evidence, one Dalek in AUDIO: The Time of the Daleks calls Kaled/Dalek mutants "the Dalek inside the casing", and later refers to the casing as well as "Dalek casing". They may well be Kaled mutants, and that is a valid name for this page, but the Daleks themselves in many stories see themselves as "pure, unadulterated Dalek", and use the terms Dalek or Dalek mutant to refer to the creature inside. 18:49, October 1, 2019 (UTC)