User talk:Scrooge MacDuck

RE: An Unearthly Child
Hi. Thanks for explaining. I was aware that the pilot had something of the sort suggested but seeing as it is invalid on the wiki, I thought the broadcasted version must have suggested it as well. I was terribly confused for a minute there, thinking I had forgotten something (which, to be fair, is not an uncommon occurrence). Thanks again :) LauraBatham ☎  13:53, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Edit Warring
Yet another instance of User:Epsilon the Eternal exceeding four revisions on the page Poppy Munday. It is becoming increasingly tiring now, especially as the image he keeps applying has been challenged by several users on the talkpage. RadMatter ☎  15:25, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

THANK YOU
Oh, thanks.. you're an angel. I was having a lot of grief with that. What's going to happen to the fool who is vandalising the wiki? Saint2 ☎  20:42, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Potential Vandalism
Potential vandalism worth considering to delete (https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Right_of_first_refusal). DJAitch ☎  13:45, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

RE: Invalid info
My bad. Sorry. Luckily I only did a few pages so it hopefully shouldn't be too much trouble to undo my edits. LauraBatham ☎  01:13, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Green Global Chemicals
Thanks for the ping, I've replied at Talk:Global Chemicals! – n8 (☎) 12:40, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Cyber Foundries
I noticed a few days ago that you renamed Cyber-Foundry to the Cyber-Foundries. Wouldn't it be suitable to omit the from the title? I know the Master says "the Cyber-Foundries" all in one line, but I don't think that therefore the word the is needed for the title, like how pages such as Dalek Empire and Seal of Rassilon don't use the in their titles, even though they technically could. Thalek Prime Overseer ☎  11:14, 2 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply, apologies that I haven't replied sooner. Whilst I understand where you're coming from with regards to the name The Cyber-Foundries, I personally feel that the The in the name still isn't necessary. If somebody was confused by the title and, at first glance, they thought it was incorrect, all they would have to do is simply click on the page and they'd immediately realise why the page has a seemingly plural name. I'd like to start a further discussion on the page itself. Thalek Prime Overseer ☎  10:31, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

An user accused me of being jealous

 * https://tardis.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000003438477/r/4400000000011661751 Matipereira User talk:Matipereira

Master template
I did not have the template saved anywhere. If you would be kind enough to move it to a sandbox, say User:BananaClownMan/Sandbox/Mastertemplate, I would be most grateful. And my Doctors template too, please, if it also goes against any template policies.BananaClownMan 11:03, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Imagery
It's not a weird precedent at all. We have often fielded complaints from people who say they'd like images of them or family members taken down. Fair use clearly doesn't apply in such a situation. 22:59: Mon 17 May 2021
 * "Fair use" isn't a privacy issue. And my removal of the pictures in questionn had nothing to do with anyone's privacy. Rather it was a matter of complying with the wishes of the copyright holder, and that always trumps the nebulous notion of "fair use".  When someone asks for an image to be taken down, it is. That's standard practice, no matter what wiki we're talking about. But in this case, it's also in Tardis' self-interest because we surely don't want DWM's legal team coming after us. Beyond that, it's simply the correct and courteous thing to do -- and it's something we've done on this wiki several times before. After all, we aren't entitled to put a single picture up.  We exist only at the will and pleasure of those who hold the copyrights for the topic we cover. Furthermore, there is zero argument at all which required these particular pictures to be uploaded as an illustration of that particular person. I'm quite certain others could have been found which would not have raised a single eyebrow at the DWM offices.


 * Finally, remember that Wikipedia have a much greater claim to being an educational resource than we do, and they're constantly taking down pics for copyright reasons. Thousands of pics get pulled from Wikipedia every year. Today's action was just a normal part of running wikis, even if it's something you haven't yet encountered as an admin. 23:44: Mon 17 May 2021

Re: T:VS elucidation
Thank you for those clarifications. I will add them to the table tomorrow. That point about Can I Help You? is interesting and definetly something I would like to debate once we have the forums again. Bongo50 (aka Bongolium500) ☎  20:02, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi
Can you please lock my post because Users are getting into a comment war and I can't stand it. Proof: https://tardis.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000003453366/r/4400000000011863244

Early Bird
Just in case someone wants the evidence/reasoning for deletion here are the pictures: RadMatter ☎  13:49, 26 May 2021 (UTC)




 * OH, true enough! I think it must have been an edit conflict that stopped me from posting, then I saw the page deleted. RadMatter ☎  13:54, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Re: Daft Dimension Numbering
I am very sorry about changing the format. I remember it being without the number and the very quick check I did found a page where it was without the number (Boys (The Daft Dimension 560) which I have just remembered that I created (although according to the edit history I forgot the citation and that was added later by Doug86 (linking to the incorrect instalment)) and have now fixed). While I do not like the current method, I will not change it again. Bongo50 (aka Bongolium500) ☎  13:28, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Benny infobox image
If you weren't aware, I've added a new candidate for the infobox image over at Talk:Bernice Summerfield, so you ought to check it out! 📯 📂 23:28, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Dalek Appearances
Having slept on the matter, I see your point: it does kinda makes sense to have parallel universe equivalents of a species on a species' appearances list. I'll edit Kaleds - list of appearances and Thals - list of appearances to accommodate Masters of War and The Eighth Doctor: Time War: Volume Four. Thalek Prime Overseer ☎  07:32, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism
I just reverted vandalism to Ian Levine by user 82.45.10.63. It violates numerous things including using unnessary swearing on the Wiki as well as targetted harrassment. Just thought you would want to be aware of it. Have a nice day. The Farty  Doctor   Talk  10:35, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Re: Re: Dr. Who
Oh yes, I'm definitely in agreement with you there. Just as we would typically use "the Doctor" in plot summaries and the like, the same should apply to Dr. Who. Danochy ☎  11:54, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Mad (as in "Angry") Larry
He doesn't specifically mention the scripts (which, like Mr Saldaamir, had been available for free online for years) or the PROBE crossover, but it seems to me that his citations of Saldaamir and Eternal Escape are just examples in support of his real thesis that "you [should]n't buy any Faction Paradox material from BBV." So I interpret the entirety of BBV's 2020s Faction content as what he's decrying, not any of the releases in particular. – n8 (☎) 16:12, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think CoI is playing a role in my revision of the page, but I see what you mean; I don't think the decider here needs to be an admin, so maybe I'll try to drag in Borisashton or Najawin (PBUH) to break the tie, if that's ok with you?
 * Oh, regarding The Plot of the War, it's definitely summarizable, as you can see at the awesome DWRG page for it; but my thought was that there's little utility in a section which will likely remain to be added until the end of history, when a plot summary is already given (albeit in a distributed fashion) by clicking the links to the entries. The story-order listing of entries is already kind of unique for story pages on the wiki: we don't list tables of contents for any other book. But I don't feel strongly either way, so I'm completely okay with being overruled on this point. – n8 (☎) 16:36, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I really hope he's okay! – n8 (☎) 16:51, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Does the original Eternal Escape warrant a short story page? RadMatter ☎  18:49, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * There was mention of "The Enemy's homeworld" but I'm not sure if that is enough. RadMatter ☎  19:17, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

The Black Dalek of Vengeance
Hey. From listening to Vengeance last week, there's only one instance (at least, I'm pretty sure from my memory) where the Black Dalek is referred to as "the Black Dalek", and that's by Magnus Drake. On all other occasions, it's referred to as "the Dalek Supreme". But more importantly, it's explicitly destroyed by the Master late in the story, with the Dalek Litigator explicitly stating immediately afterwards to the Master "you have destroyed the Supreme".

Besides, loads of stories featuring a Dalek Supreme of some kind refer to their Supreme as "the Supreme", and yet we know that these Supremes aren't all the same individual, what with how many get blown up, and stuff like the Dalek Supreme Council confirms that multiple Supremes can exist at the same time. The same goes for Black Daleks - they're a rank as well as an individual, yet they may be individually referred to as "the Black Dalek", but that doesn't make them the same individual. I'd say that the Master blowing up the Vengeance Supreme with his mind makes the latter separate from the Black Dalek Leader, because without some kind of indication of its survival, nor something bigger to indicate that the two Black Daleks are the same beyond the words "the Black Dalek", there's nothing that says the two are actually the same.

Now that I think about it, the Vengeance Supreme being called "the Black Dalek" may just be a simple stylistic choice, given that, in the animated trailer for Master!, the Supreme appears as a black-and-gold variant of the red-and-gold Supreme Dalek design from The Stolen Earth and Journey's End. Thalek Prime Overseer ☎  22:54, 25 June 2021 (UTC)


 * No problem! Glad to have helped. Thalek Prime Overseer ☎  13:51, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Davros (Unbound Universe) help
I'm trying to add an "affiliated with" section to the infobox on Davros (Unbound Universe), but for some reason, even after adding the info I'm trying to add, it won't show the new section on the visual editor or the preview. I've tried various edits on both the visual editor and source editor, and I'm getting nowhere. Could you help me? Thalek Prime Overseer ☎  16:09, 27 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help. I was trying to add four affiliations to the "affiliated with box" because I thought, what with pages such as Dalek and Cyberman having more than four affiliations, that I could add more than three. Is the difference because Dalek and Cyberman use "Infobox species", whereas Davros (Unbound Universe) uses "Infobox individual"? Thalek Prime Overseer ☎  16:33, 27 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I guess I could. It's probably not a very big deal, given that we could just swap out, say Kaled (Unbound Universe) from Davros (Unbound Universe)'s infobox and stick in Quatch Empire instead, seeing as, of the four key affiliates this Davros had, the Kaleds are perhaps the least significant, and therefore could just be swapped out. But perhaps it's worth a shot for the long run. Thalek Prime Overseer ☎  16:55, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

This is somewhat unrelated, but there's something else I'm curious about regarding Davros (Unbound Universe)'s infobox. Would it be appropriate to specify in the infobox's name that the subject is from an alternate universe? As in, changing the name of the infobox from Davros (as is the case for Davros and Davros (Palindrome)) to Davros (Unbound Universe) - just to be a tad more specific. Thalek Prime Overseer ☎  16:49, 28 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Alrighty. I take it that also applies to infobox sections such as "species" and "place of origin", given that they're also in-universe? In which case, I'll undo what I did a few minutes ago. Thalek Prime Overseer ☎  16:59, 28 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Cool stuff. Thanks for helping me again. I'll undo what I did on Davros (Unbound Universe) earlier. Thalek Prime Overseer ☎  17:28, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Re vandalism
Hi, that last two reverts you did, you may want to look at Osgood and Kate Stewart, as they did the same type of vandalism on those too Valeyard12.5 ☎  21:37, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Cyan Doctor
I was referring to this: https://dwexpanded.fandom.com/wiki/Cyan_Doctor. Is that a mistake?

Master links
Hello, there.

I wanted to ask something that, no matter how I phrase it, sounds nit-picky, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to at least ask all the same; would it be possible to change the links for War Master and Spy Master to "War" Master and "Spy" Master. I think it helps illustrate that these are nicknames for these Master instead of official titles.

Also, do you plan to go even further with this idea, like "Saxon" Master or "Tremas" Master? Could this be the first stage of getting individual Master pages.

Thank you for your time, Sincerely, BananaClownMan 02:20, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


 * @User:Scrooge MacDuck: Well, great minds think alike, don't they? ;p
 * Just after I posted my reply, I saw yours, and turns out we gave more or less the same rationales, but worded a bit differently. OncomingStorm12th ☎  02:40, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Nick Scovell
I think you're mistaken about the plays Nick Scovell was in. I can't find them anywhere on the wiki. Since they aren't covered, I think he should be removed from the Doctor actors category. MystExplorer ☎  13:20, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Ok but they aren't mentioned on either of the stories' pages. So they aren't covered by the wiki. MystExplorer ☎  15:10, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Well, the fact is that they aren't. So by definition, Scovell should not be in that category. So I am going to remove him (again) and I am done arguing about it. Sorry. MystExplorer ☎  15:18, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Go ahead and create pages for them then. MystExplorer ☎  15:44, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Worshipful reply
Its the “copied on the real book's” part that I have an issue with. To me it doesn’t read right and isn’t 100% clear in what it’s trying convey. Up until that point it makes perfect sense.

I would maybe change it to something like:

"Salyavin left a decoy in its place — really a copy of a human work of fiction, entitled The Hitchhiker's…, disguised in the real book's red binding."

SarahJaneFan ☎  22:54, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, that's pretty much the size of it. Plus the fact that the title of the book had just been mentioned made it seem like the title was copied onto the binding, which didn't make a lot of sense. Perhaps that is just book-making jargon we aren't aware of, but the fact we aren't aware of it would be a good reason to use a different term.

Also I think referring to it as the "original book" rather than "real book" would increase the clarity so maybe "disguising it in the red binding of the original book"? Danochy ☎  23:00, 11 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Seeing your reply to SJF, I see you're now saying it's a different red binding, although your original post did say it was made using the same red binding, so you understand the confusion. Regardless, I suppose I better amend my suggestion to "disguising it in a red binding based on that of the original"? Danochy ☎  23:10, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

That’s fair enough, but this comment of yours did kind of imply it was the same binding, hence the confusion:

“by rebinding it using the same red binding as the real Worshipful & Ancient Law”

In that case, I would just suggest changing "copied on" to "based on" or "inspired by". I feel something like that would make the sentence far clearer. SarahJaneFan ☎  23:12, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Can I make a sandbox page in the template namespace?
I'm working on a template that I really need to have saved in the template namespace, rather then the user one. Could I create a sandbox page in the template namespace, potentially at Template:Bongolium500/TEMPLATE NAME? Bongo50 (aka Bongolium500) ☎  18:02, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Re: don't wikify your own material
Hi since I'm not 100% sure what you meant on the page, I can't fix the following error, so I'm pointing it out here: Obviously I have a pretty good idea what you meant but it's probably better that you fix it thanks Shambala108 ☎  04:16, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * On Tardis talk:Don't wikify your own material you have User:OncomingStorm12th listed twice

Tabular list of appearances demo
I don't know if you've noticed what I've been up to over at User:NateBumber/Sabbath - list of appearances and User:NateBumber/sortname, but I'm seeking permission to move the "sortname" template into the normal template namespace and implement this tabular list of appearances format over at Sabbath - list of appearances (likely in conjunction with a speedy rename request). I think it's a clear improvement over the existing format, as it can allow any reader to sort by medium and series like now, but also by release order and author. I obviously don't intend to replace every list of appearances at once – that would require further automation and SemanticWiki'ing a la Bongo50 – so my intuition isn't that it would require a forum thread to implement, but I figured I'd run it past a purplename before I just publish it. Any thoughts? – n8 (☎) 17:59, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

220.188.250.84 - spam
Just an FYI, if you check user 220.188.250.84 and their contributions, you'll see a lot of blanked pages that I have tried my best to reverse. The Peter Capaldi page hasn't balanced back to "0". In fact, it says "-3", so I'm not sure what the deal is there. Just thought you'd like to know and take whatever action you deem fit. Have a good day. The Farty  Doctor   Talk  04:03, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Two points of query
Hi, just wanted to inquire regarding two points that have come to mind.

1. The Wyngarde Debacle In light of the new Wikify page, I went back to mull on the original No Self Ref. and actually came to wonder if a particular circumstance with the Peter Wyngarde page may toe over the lines of acceptability. Though not added by Wyngarde himself, long been since passed away... in my own previous revisions of that page, I opted to document the ever complicated tangle that is his birth date. (You'll see well enough from the page that it's quite a tangle!) Three of those sources - which were all from the same site over different period of times and notably inconsistent with each other - always did perplex me but being that of his official fan club, I'd pondered that they may have had the same level of confusion as average onlookers do with Wyngarde's birth details.

But just the other week, it came to my attention that the fan club website has infact been run by a Tina Wyngarde-Hopkins. Following that back, it seems she claims to have been romantically partnered with him for 30 years... and further to that, Wikipedia's talk page seems to contain some form of argument between her & editors there. Now, I know we have to maintain NPoV - but would there be some form of consideration to be taken when an individual close to a real person claims a key detail in their life in an unverified and often inconsistent manner whilst they were alive and now after their passing? I wouldn't think it 'taking sides' if we were to conclude that - by whatever manner and intentions, perhaps that of simply being told so by Wyngarde himself in those years - there was an issue with the inclusion of those as sources.

No Self Ref is, I will admit, primarily meant for instances in which the person themselves adds the information to the page or an editor does so on the basis of their comments, but like I say, I have to ask if this might also extend to this rather complicated case?

It's a rather tricky situation, and after thinking on it the past week, I decided best to refer to yourself.

2. Non-cis and Non-het RW individuals It's been on my large "Things to tackle when the Forums return" list, to get to the implementation of non-heterosexual and non-cisgender categories for real-world individuals. I was thinking when I drafted my list that this would likely need to involve the forums but it was later brought to my attention that in-universe categories for this already exist. With that mind, as creating them would be to compliment the existing in-universe categories - and since a large part of the forum discussion on those in Thread 271132 was actually to decide the need/significance of having those & the best suited naming for such a category - would it be the case that there is enough precedent for making those categories right now without a forum discussion?

The thread decided a significance to having in-universe cats, and that they should be named "Non-cisgender individuals" & "Non-heterosexual individuals".

So, would real-world cats in the same vein not be just as valid to add presently, provided they were named in the same scheme i.e. "Non-cisgender real world individuals" and "Non-heterosexual real world individuals"?

JDPManjoume ☎  02:48, 16 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your replies on both points. With that first point in mind, I will amend Wyngarde's page to remove the fanclub website, and note the rationale on the talk page so that it is clear to any others editing the page why those have been taken off the page. You made a good point re. third-party sourcing from actual individuals - I would've been better placed to say sourcing key information without further independent verification of the accuracy of the statements.


 * Thanks also for the reminder that the thread was at that stage of opinion re. real-world individuals, as I'd forgotten about that. I shall of course leave well alone on that for now.


 * Just as an aside, since it's just come up - please see the talk page on David Burton when you get a chance for why I wished to remove that statement for the moment. It was a matter of who added it, the best way to word it to avoid reader misinterpretation re. licensing, and the question of finding a source for the production actually existing.

JDPManjoume ☎  12:50, 16 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'd noticed Najawin's sandbox just last night, hence my most recent additions to my list. I will probably move a copy of it over there sometime soon once I've cleaned it up a bit more. And yeah, the PoC categories are going to be a complicated situation. I've no doubts about that, but I think it's worth having the conversation to see how much can be untangled.
 * On the Dhawan vs. Delgado thing specifically, that had come to mind actually (as had Tso in the audios) - and I suppose my argument there is going to be akin to the point that this contention is not too dissimilar to the matter re. "first PoC Doctor actor". (Jo Martin, Daniel Anthony, Lenny Henry, Damian Lynch) All of those actors in both cases are, by an academic and scientific standpoint, people of colour. Thus, the approach I'd already be proposing for that would be that their individual pages note who is generally referred to as the first in media reviews and fandoms, whilst also noting the other people of colour who can be applied that title too.
 * This is the approach that is already being taken for a subsection on the Fugitive Doctor's page. If that can point out the technicality that Damian Lynch was briefly playing the Third Doctor as predating Jo Martin as Fugitive Doctor, then I don't see why the technicality of Delgado being hispanic and though not noted at the time, would actually be a person of colour, should throw any particular troubles.
 * As such, then it would be a viable path that operation of the category can include them all. I wasn't really thinking of those folks being an issue. What will be, however, the three major points of complexity that actually stand out to me would be that of Richard E. Grant, Marcus Hearn and of Peter Davison - who are all despite typical perception all mixed-race. Even if ultimately it doesn't result in a category add, it would at least provide something to point at in terms of it being considered & lay a groundwork that might one day be further resolved by someone else. Time will tell, as it always does.

JDPManjoume ☎  15:47, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

FandomDesktop migration
Hey there! We are due to migrate this wiki very soon to FandomDesktop and I need to help get a light theme ready. Apologies for the short notice of this, there were some unforeseen circumstances.

It would be great to work with the entire admin team to get the wiki ready for FandomDesktop. Have you been using the new skin? I'm going to start some preparation tomorrow and it would be great to work with the admin team on this. We may need to:


 * Adjust the theme on light theme
 * Adjust templates
 * Adjust CSS/JS
 * and more potentially.

If you have any suggestions for how we can collaborate, please let me know. I wondered if a forum thread on Forum:Index might work? Please let me know if you have any questions, and I look forward to hearing from you! --Spongebob456 talk 18:47, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Henrywaltertardis
Hi Scrooge,

I thought that I would raise a possible concern about User:Henrywaltertardis.

It appears that this user is editing the 2021 (releases) page based purely on the dates which have been given on the List of future releases, despite the fact that some of these releases have been delayed or the dates mentioned on the page were incorrect. For example; the user recently added the Iris Wildthyme story The Mermaid Menace to the 2021 releases page and stated that it was released in May 2021 - the release is noted for May 2021 on the future releases page. However, I cannot find any information that this publication has actually been released. Likewise, the user has added Lytton 4 and Orcini as having been released in June - again information which matches that found on future releases - but I am certain that these have not been released yet.

Thanks. RadMatter ☎  15:51, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

The Undying
Hi Scrooge,

It features Archibald Angelchrist from Paradox Lost in a supporting role. I have added the information to his page. RadMatter ☎  13:19, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Community Connect
Hey there! Can I confirm you received an email re Community Connect please? May be in spam and it's to the email associated with your Fandom account. Is this something you would be interested in attending? Thanks! --Spongebob456 talk 10:27, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Abigblueworld
Hi hope you are well. The user abigblueworld is being a major nuisance. Editing wars, vandalising pages, adding fandom. Should be blocked in my view Valeyard12.5 ☎  21:03, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

whats adding fandom? Fandom is already a Website :/ 21:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Language?
Hey, I just wanted to ask you what the rules are when it comes to language and bad words in comments on posts. I would like to be aware of it. Someone said a really bad word in a comment on my post, but they weren't attacking anyone, so I guess it's fine. But going forward, I'd like to know what the rules are. Thank you!

Vandalism by Tr8d0s0a1
User:Tr8d0s0a1 is repeatedly vandalising pages by either blanking, spamming text or moving them. I've had to constantly revert their edits to combat it. See Special:Contributions/Tr8d0s0a1. EpsilonGamma ☎  08:25, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism
Hi. Abigblueworld101 could use a block. LauraBatham ☎  14:06, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Seconded DanTheMan2150AD ☎ 16:28, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Possible breach of Tardis:Don't wikify your own material
Hi, I've been rereading some of the policy stuff just because I like to make sure I know exactly what is and isn't allowed and after reading this policy just now, I got reminded of a point in 2019 when I edited a page on here after another wiki user had done, only for someone to message me on Twitter asking why I edited it because they were the one who wrote that section (I was fixing an error from the book I had just read). The person in question is someone who is a writer of DWU content and the part of the article I edited was something related to a story they had been involved with. After reading this policy, I checked my Twitter messages, but they have left Twitter, so I may not have info on those messages (although they may still exist in my emails), but the user on here has edited a lot of content that they themselves have worked on and has also edited their personal page here on the wiki, so wanted to mention it to an admin, and because you're an admin I regularly see editing stuff, I thought I would mention it to you. ThomasRWade ☎  20:12, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
 * With regards to this editor, I have managed to check my emails and the time they mentioned to me about it being them was February 2020. However, this was in a private message and their profile on here doesn't mention who they are. They claimed the account name on here is a pen name they plan to write under in the future, so I don't want to dox them for it, but they are still editing pages that involve works they are directly tied to, as of August 3rd. This editor previously used an account with their name that is known publicly, but based on te Contributions page, their last time using that here was early 2019, with the first edit on the new account being late 2019. If revealing the information is doxxing, due to the nature of them telling me being via private message, then I won't reveal who it is (that's why I've been vague about the editor, to avoid breaking rules regarding that), but I felt it best to notify an admin that I had seen this happening, because I saw that policy last night. Thanks ThomasRWade ☎  11:13, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarification. I was worried about that being an issue. They no longer appear to be on Twitter anymore, so I doubt I'll be able to contact them. It's a shame that some people don't read the policies, but I am guilty of that in the past myself. Sorry for wasting your time. ThomasRWade ☎  12:05, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Vandals on Martha Jones
Hi, two vandals are putting some extreme vandalism on Martha Jones’s page Valeyard12.5 ☎  18:01, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Serial vandal
Hi, that Furneai on wheels (or whatever he’s called) is back as a sock puppet Doctor Who is rubbish, up to his old stuff Valeyard12.5 ☎  21:56, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Another vandal
User HAHAGOTyalmabig is vandalising pages Valeyard12.5 ☎  12:13, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Fandom projects
Hi! Got a couple of things:

As this wiki used to use Special:Forum, Fandom wants to make sure that old forum links and references aren't cluttering up maintenance special pages (unusedfiles, needed pages etc). Would you mind checking and letting me know asap as to whether that's an issue for this wiki? Just looking for dead links to forums in special pages, or links to images used in forums but are now dead, stuff like that. No need to attempt to cleanup yourself, I just need to know if they exist.

Secondly, did you receive an email sent last week I believe inviting you to The Downstream on September 10th? The email is titled "[The Downstream] Ask Fandom Anything, Social Media Tips, and Data Insights". I just want to confirm you received the email as we know Fandom outreach emails often land in spam.

If you could let me know about both of those things, that would be fantastic. Thanks! --Spongebob456 talk 09:43, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi there, just a reminder that The Downstream is Friday, September 10 at 11am EST at https://www.twitch.tv/Fandom. You can register/RSVP and add the event to your calendar here. That page also gives a lot of detail on what the event offers. Any questions, please let me know! --Spongebob456 talk 12:10, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Notable referencing issues on Vitas Varnas
Was doing a bit of research in a personal project regarding Doctor Who at the BBC: Lost Treasures, and in process, stumbled upon the note that Vitas Varnas has a thanks within that. In checking Vitas' page to determine a source to push over onto the release's actual page... That source provided some handy help - but - I noticed that the following; "Vitas appears in the comic Omega as a Minyan in a crowd witnessing Princess Malika put onto trial. He also appears in the comic story Goodbye To All That where he's seen on the streets of Soho, 1975." is cited with sources that are actually tweets from Vitas himself. Though the creators did acknowledge the first of those tweets in some small manner, I believe this would probably still fall under a self-ref issue as it is still using an individual's own statement as sole verification of a contribution.

Things only got more complicated from there, as reviewing the other sources, I then noticed that the initial citation for creating the page re. his likeness appearing in a K9 book - is also within this situation. It's a Facebook post from Vitas himself about it. The likeness may be clear enough, but I thought it was still a problematic thing and that it would be better to check the actual book for a proper credit.

As the editor in question - EpsilonGamma - had covered the creation and sourcing, I then decided to check their other related edits to see if there were any other similar situations.

EpsilonGamma's citation on Vitas' page re. Strangeness in Space is yet another social media statement from Vitas about being involved. And the DWU counterpart also has a similar situation for its sole citation.

The H.P. Lovecraft page also has edits that veer in this direction too. The Jonathan Green page, too, seems to have had such an edit.

Finally, there is a little bit of concern to me regarding the citation for his GameGrumps participation. Aside that linkage to an easter egg does not show he was a frequent contributor.

[Older revisions of the page also involved EpsilonGamma adding a birth date and year to Vitas' page, that other editors would understandably later remove for being completely uncited. This seems to have been cited on the 1992 (people) and 16 June (people) pages with a People Pill link, but that actually has no such information.]

I would normally deal with this as typical, but given the scale and breadth of the matter, I thought best to draw to your attention so that you can conclude the best possible resolution of these issues and can more officially speak to EpsilonGamma re. this.

JDPManjoume ☎  20:29, 27 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reassurance that it was a NO SELF REF issue - I've moved those statement to the talk page of Varnas' page, until any proper sourcing can be found. (Having just looked at Amaral's RW page, there was no issue there... but there was a citation that was failing NO SELF REF on the page of the in-universe counterpart that I've also removed for the time-being.)

As for sourcing either... well, looking at the Kickstarter page for Omega provides no information of whom the 24 backers who would fall under the 'likeness' perk.

And the Cutaway Comics website has no page I can find re. these backers. And neither their old Twitter (cutawaycomics) or their new Twitter (cutawayuniverse) has anything that would be helpful in that regard. Which is a bit of a stumbling block, not just for Varnas but also for Amaral, in terms of having them properly cited.

I agree that we could certainly count the resemblance without an outright name; because as you say, we have plenty precedent for identifying individuals grouped under one credit title (particularly in supporting artist territory) - though having now read the talk page for Amaral, I will admit I have questions about drawing a direct connection between two separate cameos as one whole character without cited authorial intent... but I will air those over there in due course, after I've mulled the implications of Bart Simpson.

(I did note, however, on the Kickstarter page but not entirely sure if we can take the wording offhand on that page that "our chance to appear in Omega #1! We'll need your image by early December, but assuming we do, you'll achieve Minyan IMMORTALITY at the pen of John Ridgway!" as to any definite statement on the character of Antonio being definitely a Minyan, but might that be helpful on that currently tangled BtS section?) JDPManjoume ☎  17:18, 28 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Both Amaral and Varnas are credited in the Omega comic series with thanks as well in the fourth issue of Lytton, however it doesn't say specifically it's them in the audience as I could only go by their posts to confirm this, and no one in Lytton I could see resembles Amaral. Would scans of the comic book credits uploaded to the wiki be considered a reliable source? EpsilonGamma ☎  09:46, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism
Hi, user 82.28.161.139 is vandalizing pages constantly. He was blocked on one profile but has turned up again. Voyage. Of the damned and dinosaurs on a spaceship are the pages Valeyard12.5 ☎  22:09, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

The Merge of Morbius
Hey Scrooge, hope you're well! I enjoyed scrolling through the Morbius incarnation pages this morning and it reminded me of something which was floated several years back but never decided or implemented: that it might be within the bounds of current policy and standing admin decisions to conclude that the Imperator is the First Morbius. Sadly the forums are currently inaccessible, but as I recall it, the case of the Imperator went unaddressed in the original debate(s), and while it's easy to compare him to the Master and the War King (which were decided to stand apart, given the state of evidence at that time), I think his character is much more comparable to the Homeworld and "the Ship" from Toy Story, each of which the wiki positively affirms with their DWU equivalents. I'm curious what you think; given today's changes to Morbius, it would be an easy and unobtrusive integration. – n8 (☎) 19:00, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Very eloquently explained. I definitely see what you're saying regarding mixing precedents. I'll shelve the idea for now… In the meantime I'll start working on something about the policy suggestion I mention on my user page. The forums can't come back quickly enough! – n8 (☎) 20:13, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Dalek television stories template
Hello, there. I thought I'd come to you directly to ask if it was okay to update the Dalek television stories template based on the current talk page, such as the removal of images and archive footage? BananaClownMan 01:57, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Prime Ministers Box
For some reason the box on PMs of the UK overlaps with the Show button meaning you can't open it.