User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-5.2.105.85-20170222095120

I know this'll probably be ignored due to my being an anonymous user, however I have some points on this story's inclusion.

Taking a look at the old inclusion "debate" - you'll see that one point made for this story's non-inclusion is that it is "irreconcilably discontinuous", this should never, ever be a reason for a story's non-inclusion, or else many of The Master's stories would be dismissed.

Another point is that it is impossible to fit with EastEnders' continuity, again not our problem, this a Doctor Who wiki.

Another point raised is again due to it being set in the fictional land of EastEnders - not important - so is the valid "Mistaken Identity" - in addition to this one of the Virgin New Adventures novels states that this whole story is a dream.

Also Army of Ghosts says that EE is a programme in the DWU, this is actually more beneficial, this gives the Doctor the reason to have this dream.

So there we have a perfectly valid reason why and how this story takes place in DW continuity, it's a dream thus no fleas off Fred.

Another point is no one would in their right mind would accept this as a valid source - so, if you read the Titan backup comics, then you'd see that this is a serious as it gets.

This story is often mislabeled parodic in nature, it's about as parodic as Time Crash bit silly, but mainly serious.

Another point is that JNT and the BBC implicate that it is "non canon" - as this wiki has stated before, the BBC have made no attempt to declare a canon.

JNT has said he doesn't care what people think about its status, which is no different from some VNA authors. He's not said it's "non canon", he's just said that he simply does not care.

Official reference books like the WHOology and The Vault have included it, as well as the official BBC website which even gives it a continuity section.

MY proposal is that we reconsider this piece a valid source as the BBC do, if anyone can think of a proper reason top dismiss it that don't include it being discontinuous, being set in EE and that comment of JNT saying he plainly didn't care - I'd like to hear it.

Otherwise I think we should include this story as no more than a dream, it's what the BBC and official in universe sources do.