Forum talk:Validity: Hacker T. Dog

Lost media
Must say that I find the closing post here extremely disagreeable as precedent. What we've essentially done now is called this media invalid via being lost media. I'm sure the intention was just that we'd gather all the linking segments together then try this again, but we have to be realistic - these are a week's worth of linking material from seven years ago. We are never going to find everything unless we personally find someone with a CBBC archive from the last decade.

Thus the obvious threat is that a complete picture will never be possible all of this material must remain invalid - and this is an extremely dangerous precedent considering the amount of lost media associated with this franchise. OS25🤙☎️ 11:21, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree this would be disagreeable precedent, but it is very much not what I said. I explicitly said:

"o long as swathes of it remain unarchived I think it'd be unreasonable to ask for people to have watched it in its entirety, but let's have robust Wikification of everything currently available, and revisit that once we're all on the same page there"

- User:Scrooge MacDuck


 * That is: I want what is in fact (illegally) available on YouTube wikified before we revisit this. The lost media are lost and we can't hinge validity on them. I was just concerned about validating all the available Robot Week bits when they weren't the focus of the thread and thus, I suspect a lot of people hadn't watched them. Furthermore we cannot actually require people to watch pirated material to participate in a thread — for obvious procedural reasons, regardless of ethical qualms — hence my request for robust Wikification of all available material that people could check instead in the new thread to get a sense of what we're talking about and make an informed choice of where they want to stand on this. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 11:28, 24 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I suppose I can contend it's a reasonable request then. OS25🤙☎️ 11:41, 24 June 2023 (UTC)


 * God we really need to have a thread about lost media, the Wiki is just not built to handle it... 12:29, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Introducing BL1INKBOT
It's a bit embarrassing that I didn't catch this sooner but I've just had a skim through the Brownlow-Pike video to see how many segments we have available and I've realised that Introducing BL1NKBOT, which I hitherto believed to be an independent webcast merely released in conjunction with Robot Week, is actually integrated in full as a part of a TV studio segment. We have this short exchange...
 * LAUREN: You've had quite the week, haven't you?
 * BL1NKBOT: Yes. View my memories.

...before the pre-recorded video plays in full. As a result of this discovery, per the ruling to merge "The Robot Reveal" segment with Robot Week (TV story) I no longer believe Introducing BL1NKBOT is entitled to a separate article. What does everyone else think? Borisashton ☎  11:37, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Makes sense. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 12:07, 24 June 2023 (UTC)