Talk:The Alliance (The Pandorica Opens)/Archive 1

I don't understand the Daleks and Cybermen think all other races are inproper and must be destroyed or converted and they worked together with other species to stop the doctor, the cracks must have been very serious to make daleks and cybermen work together to save the universe--Jackr12 19:14, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Infobox
Can we please keep all the members of the Alliance out of the infobox and instead on the article? The infobox stretches horribly if we listed every single race on there. The evil dude. 20:18, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's sort of the point of the infobox, though. And it doesn't stretch that long if you use commas, rather than putting each race on a separate line.  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍ 21:04, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I've put the members back into the infobox, cause that's where they belong. Helps make the whole article more compact. And it's one of the major fields in this infobox. If you're not going to put the members in the infobox, there's almost no point to using the infobox at all.  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍ 21:14, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Category
Should we have a category for the members of the Alliance? 21:20, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes we should have one. Great idea!Fallen5 17:00, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

What do the Daleks and Cybermen hope to gain?
Why would the Daleks and Cybermen want to prevent the destruction of [all] the Universe(s)? Isn't that their goal? Imprisoning the Doctor would then be counter-intuitive, unless its just because of a grudge.
 * They would be destroyed too. They don't want that do they? 10:28, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's much more likely that the new Doctor Who team just doesn't care about Who lore and is willing to get all the baddies together for great justice ratings. Karshí 20:13, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

They did it to survive, as basic as that 98.109.139.104 14:21, July 28, 2011 (UTC) Smurf Who
 * They both want to take over the universe, yes, but the Cracks/Explosion would destroy them along with anything else. Chances are the Alliance would've fall apart within seconds of the Doctor's imprisonment. -  I. Am. Excalibur-117  -(talk • contribs) 20:17, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Move
Why was this page moved? Any move should have been discussed first. The Thirteenth Doctor 12:42, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blowfish
Did anyone actually see the blowfish on screen. If so, could you please provide a time that they appeared. The Thirteenth Doctor 12:46, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Look at the picture in the Infobox. The Drone Dalek's right you should see it's head fin and the top of a Uvodni. Son of Icthar 13:59, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

yeh i saw the blowfish behind the uvodni aswell just. Silversurfer06 21:22, June 20,User 2010 (UTC)

Judoon
sorry just don't get it why are they there, there basically allies to the doctor, more allies than enemy, the judoon even wanted help from the doctor when fighting the daleks and thats another thing in that room the judoon are probably trying to stop most of the aliens in that room, and also another thing i think they could be helping the doctor cause they never said ONE word in the whole scene which makes me think are they being sneeky. Silversurfer06 21:28, June 20,User 2010 (UTC)

But the Judoon wanted to get their hands on the Doctor's TARDIS so they could destroy the Daleks. They were actually trying to steal it. --CGW 07:02, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

No. Is it so hard to understand? The Judoon also think that the TARDIS may destroy the universe. So, they seal the Doctor away to stop the universe from getting destroyed! If your life was on the line, you would help to stop yourself being killed, wouldn't you? 07:05, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, they thought it was the Doctors fault and will always quickly change there minds on stuff or people depending on what they think is more justice, in this case, survivaul. 98.109.139.104 14:27, July 28, 2011 (UTC) Smurf Who

Leader?
On the page it says that the Supreme Dalek is the leader, but the Cyber-Leader or Commander Stark could easily have been the leader! My theory is that the Cyber-Leader's universe started to fade away (he seemed to know all the universes would disappear) and he broke through where he contacted Commander Stark and they got the Alliance together, but then the Progenitor Daleks took over and the Strategist Daleks devised a plan, the Scientist built the Pandorica after the Drone collected the residue stuff from Amy's house and the Eternal stopped all the others from rebelling (which they probably do in the next episode) as he seems to have the ability to never die (the stone dalek may be him, able to move). Your theories? Kerange 18:35, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Leader of the allaince
Dont you think that the supreme dalek is the leader of the alliance overall he represented the alliance and mostly was at the front all the time and spoke the most.The mysterious 16:22, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I think its much easier not to put a leader then it stops any arguments. --The Brig 16:32, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

How is this possible
Sure the Daleks, Sontarans a few others could easily be there. But the cybermen all died, so how are they there? The blowfish was killed in Torchwood, and I never saw a Weevil there either. How is this possible? Plus, how would they join together. They could have been anywhere in the universe!Fallen5 17:00, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

blowfish is a species. There are two seperate blowfish on Torchwood one in the first series 2 episode and one in the episode where they all have flashbacks. Lu-igi board

the cybermen travelled into our universe and are spread across the universe luigi board is right and the weevil is there as i could easily spot it

They all came from different time periods and joined to save the universe. The Daleks arrived from some point in their own history after being recreated in WWII, the Cybermen in the small periods they existed on this Earth etc. -- 07:46, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Good guys?
In a sense they are working together to save the universe. So are they good or bad? Alpha111 18:02, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

The jury's still out on that, but I suppose it can be said that they are a bunch of bad guys trying to do something good. --Jpx400 02:50, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

The Aliance unseen members
These people will not be appearing, but are in the alliance due to costs
 * Teraleptil


 * Slitheen


 * Cheloneon


 * Nestene


 * Dravins


 * Haemogoth


 * Zygon


 * Atraxi


 * Draconian

Don't expect to see these Aliens.

An Atraxi ship can actually be seen among the spaceships when the Doctor manages to scare them off. I don't know what some of these races look like, but a pinkish creature with a large, spiky fin like a punk rocker hairdo and a green creature with large eyes can be seen during the overview before the Doctor talks to them. --Jpx400 14:07, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

pink creature is blowfish green i dont know possibly a uvodni in a strange light

Uvodni Revenge
Wait a mo. The Doctor never did anything to the Uvodni, and I didn't see any either. Didn't see no Kudlak or nothing. Commisar1945 19:01, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

he probably had an encounter with the uvodni,weevils,etc before. wikia contributer

Ships
Didn't River say there were millions of ships, not 10,000? So we really should put that in the Garrison box.

Racnoss
When I saw the scene with all the spaceships I saw the Racnoss ship I think we should add the Racnoss to the list of members.88.104.100.19 15:57, March 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Seems unlikely, since the Empress of the Racnoss was supposed to be in hibernation and the others were dead or trapped in the centre of the Earth. The Webstar looks like an Atraxi; are you sure you didn't see that instead? -<Azes13 19:47, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Weevil's?
Yes there ARE Weevils in the Alliance, but they REALLY don't show up on the screen. The ONLY time you can BARELY see one is right behind the Cyber Leader after the Pandorica is sealed. I think wee should remove them from the Alliance listing because they really didn't have much of a physical appearance in the episode.

No, they should still be included because they are in the alliance. The amount of time they get on screen is irrelevant. Skittles the hog-- Talk 21:16, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Weeping Angels ?
I understand how all the other species were albe to work together to keep themselves alive and save the universe, but how could the weeping angels ever be part of the alliance without turning to stone or feasting on the other aliens time line or something like that, it's hard for them to even work with each other, almost impossible with the Alliance, and yet the are listed as noble members. Also I never saw them or heard them mentioned, so were are we getting them as noble members? 98.109.139.104 14:07, July 28, 2011 (UTC)Smurf Who98.109.139.104 14:07, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

I Think you'll find they're included because of their role in the Doctor Who Experience, which featured the Alliance.Not sure if they're explicitly identified as members though. Baziel 15:03, July 28, 2011 (UTC)