Talk:Aliens of London (TV story)

Date of Doctor Who
I always wondered why this website listed episodes as being set nearly a year ahead of when they were broadcast. Now I know it goes back to this episode which is set 1 year in the future (at the time), putting it in 2006. Therefore the 2005 episode THE CHRISTMAS INVASION is set in Dec 2006. Therefore, 2006 Christmas episode THE RUNAWAY BRIDE is set in 2007 and series 3 is primarily set in 2008 and so on. Do the writer's even know about this system because they seem to just set the episodes in the present; end of story. No year in the future. There are multiple contradictions too. The Doctor mentions Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows ("wait until you read book 7, oh, I cried") in the SHAKESPEARE CODE but if SMITH AND JONES is set in 2008, Martha's had a year to read it. The dialogue places SMITH AND JONES in 2007...Did the writter of this episode not know about the 'year in the future' deal? Bttsstewart 17:50, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Some writers do, some writers don't. I know Russell himself forgot by TV: The New World, which taken literally makes the Christmas setting of Out of Time very confusing. But apart from that glaring error, I don't think any year is mentioned at all in Doctor Who's present day (referring specifically to the Russell T Davies era), apart from "x years ago" things (mostly, but not exclusively relative to other episodes which would have also been a year ahead anyway), and the occasional "21st century".


 * I agree on the "book 7" bit (though honestly, per T:NO RW, maybe the seventh book was delayed until '08 within Doctor Who), but and the same time, it's not consistent and mentioned again and again; the year just isn't really a part of most Doctor Who, SJA and Torchwood points beyond "post-mobile phones and Internet; looks like Cardiff without any period set dressing". There are notable contradictions with at least Torchwood's early seasons as well, but even that's in about two or three episodes.


 * The Moffat era de-emphasises this (and The Power of Three, which is practically a Davies throwback, has no exact setting, but is definitely a while after The Bells of Saint John and the 2013 of The Name of the Doctor), but the Davies era, not to mention Miracle Day, is not the real world circa 2005-2011. The public are more and more aware of aliens in all three BBC Wales shows; the Daleks moved the planet, the entire world was enveloped in a poisonous gas, Cybermen appeared in every house, London's residents are actually aware of nasty things like the Webstar attack happening every Christmas, and we have distinct differences in technology with vehicles like the Valiant. Even if Moffat's cracks in time have muddled it or retconned it, to paraphrase the Seventh Doctor, humanity haven't been as capable of self-deception here as they were during the attack on the London Underground. Many are in denial at first, but they didn't ignore the strange events, and the cover-ups are just as crazy as "aliens are real and among us". -- Tybort (talk page) 23:01, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Plagiarism?
It's not word-for-word, and I'm a bit exhausted right now to check thoroughly, but there seems to be plenty of elements which are lifted from the DWRG. Is this enough to start it from scratch? -- Tybort (talk page) 23:14, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Removing for at least the time being on a "better safe than sorry" approach. No use moving over 10 paragraphs here, especially considering the reason I've removed it is over accusations of plagiarism. -- Tybort (talk page) 00:24, September 27, 2013 (UTC)