User talk:Azereal

Assault Dalek
As the name 'Assault Dalek' hasn't been used anywhere in Doctor Who media (other than the Character Options figures), I don't think it qualifies as canon. The blow torch attachment is covered in Manipulator arm.

Additionally, Merchandise doesn't count as appearances, (other wise we'd have a hell of a time with the various Dapol figures and everything that came out of the Dalekmania in the 1960s).

Which brings me to accuracy of the merchandise, back in Dapol days they released a green K9 (because the photo the BBC gave them had K9 photographed on green grass, making him look green). This doesn't make K9 green or canon. (sorry random facts)

If there is ever an Assault Dalek article, it needs to be backed up by something more than the merchandise. (Also remember to sign your comments on talk or forum pages, it's the button third from the right on the row of buttons above the text box, it looks like part of a signature, or you can add it via four tildes (~), the symbol next to the 1 on a keyboard whilst holding shift: ~ ). --Tangerineduel 12:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The Doctor Who Wiki TARDIS Index File does consider a lot of things that haven't appeared on TV as canon.

On this wiki there is generally just one canon, the idea of 'expanded universe' or secondary canon was explored early in this wiki's inception (when inspiration was sought from other wikias), but has since been discontinued owning to the complex nature of the Doctor Who universe.
 * As for Merchandise categories see Category:Merchandise.
 * There is some what of a difference between fandom and a wikia, can you cite a similar example within the wikias that also uses merchandise as a valid resource?
 * As I said before, if there is a primary resource that can back up the name of the Assault Dalek then it may qualify for an article of its own, or a sentence or two within the Dalek variants article. --Tangerineduel 13:05, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * On this wiki, as you can see what is in the canon policy is what is in, 'strong fan support' is something I'd rather not have anywhere near policy as fan support can really mean anything.


 * I'm not sure the Transformers wiki is a good example, as I noted on the canon policy talk page the figures don't have any meaning in and of themselves, only their source texts give them meaning, so the source texts are the canon, rather than the toys. Also the TARDIS wiki is a little more formal than the Transformers wiki. All in-universe articles are written past tense from the imagined point of view of looking back from the the end of the universe sort of thing. I was looking for an example similar to this wiki's situation, I had a look at the Wookipedia, (the Star Wars wiki), which has a pool of references in the same bredth as this wiki, their merchandise information is in a separate wiki, something I don't think should be done here.


 * I added the Gone to Pot tag as the article has no information on it. The information is in fact already covered on the Character Options action figures page. I'm not sure what repeating the information on a separate page brings that the Character Options action figures page doesn't.


 * Also the image doesn't enlighten on to what it's talking about, is the page Character Options: 5" Action Figures Series One just about the Assault Dalek? Or is it about all the other figures that are a part of the 5" from Series One series? (The Character Options action figures again makes this more clear with its tables, links, and divided sections)


 * The Character Options action figures has everything some what organised, with images illustrating exactly what is in each figure.


 * As for cleanup vs stub etc see Tardis:Templates. But quick info; stubs are used for articles that can have more information added but have the right formatting and basic info. Gone to Pot articles are in need of major work.


 * Also some other notes. I would advise against copying information from the address bar when creating wikilinks as it leaves in the underscore making it tricky to read links placed on pages. --Tangerineduel 15:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

My apologies!
Hi Azeal, I'm owning up to interfering! (The Librarian) in the character option page I hadn't realised you were still working on it, and I should have asked first, my bad!
 * Ok here's my thinking. I'm keen on merchandise to be covered in a lot more depth (I'm working on some 'goodies' for this year!!). The character option figures I see as very significant in this area and the existing action figure page has the potential to be a very long page!


 * So, bearing in mind I wanted to expand the Character Option page I created a new page giving ALL their merchandising a better structure.


 * I'd envisioned the contents from the existing Character Options action figures page, primarily photos, to be moved over to these new pages which will, (now -well done!), include descriptions, variations and comments. The Torchwood figures should be seperate but with a link at the top for those interested.


 * Anyway I jumped the gun, it must of been my enthusiasm over the new Time Squad (sooooo cute!) I hope we can work together on this they deserve some more attention and hopefully the other Character Options merchandise (currently headed "Toys and Gadgets") will get included.


 * Bye for now The Librarian 22:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)