User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-2.26.183.189-20170416191252/@comment-4028641-20170418015105

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-2.26.183.189-20170416191252/@comment-4028641-20170418015105 Ehhh, sort of.

Here's how the set-up for the episodes go when you put them together:


 * In The Pilot, the Doctor tricks a Dalek into a confrontation with Heather. He and Bill run down a corridor adjacent to this.
 * Again in The Pilot, we cut to Bill being chased by a Dalek as he tries to shut them into one part of the ship.
 * We don't know how many corridors Bill and the Doctor have run through at this point. It could be two and it could be fifteen. So it's not a discrepancy for them to be hiding from more Daleks.


 * In Friend from the Future, we see the Doctor and Bill hiding from a group of Daleks. They discuss what a "Dalek" even is, and they are cornered by one of the "Daleks."
 * This also happens in FftF (it's a lot of the same footage, just color corrected), and it's revealed that the Dalek is Heather in disguise. Nardole says "I've sealed the area, all the Daleks are quarantined."

The only discrepancy, as noted above by TFD, is that one of the area behind the corridors in The Pilot is more heavily detailed. In FftF, it's just a wall. In The Pilot, it's another area that catches on fire.

It's heavily important that we look at the reasonings for why we would call a story invalid and we ask ourselves "would this apply to any other story?"

Time Crash is another example of a televised "mid-quel" that has horrible continuity. It very poorly attempts to set itself within the end of Last of the Time Lords, and a lot of stuff doesn't work.

If this story is invalid for doing the same thing, then so is Time Crash; alongside any other "middle-of-story-stories" that aren't done very well.

In fact, if you look closely, the very continuity errors we're describing here are also present in the episode. Columns disappear, corridors materialize, walls go missing; all in the same scene. So if FftF is invalid for visually contradicting The Pilot, is The Pilot invalid for contradiction The Pilot?