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User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-4028641-20170222073756/@comment-4028641-20170224100434 Amorkuz wrote: There are several points that have not been sufficiently clarified in this discussion. And, since I agree that this is going to be used as a precedent, it is important to put all the relevant arguments out there in the open: in a year, none of us is going to remember the details of what we were thinking now.

So the big question is: how exactly are the Daleks in the movie related to the DWU? A multiverse was mentioned, but the exact nature of DWU in it or how Daleks could travel to its other parts was not specified. The reason that I'm asking is because of the jokey name used for them. I would grant the argument that calling them Daleks is not mandatory and can be used for whatever comic relief. But calling them "British robots" is, in fact, treating them differently from the established lore of the DWU. Because
 * 1) They are not robots
 * 2) They are not British

I don't know how to make this more clear. I hate it when people make me explain jokes.

The joke is that the Joker doesn't know who the Daleks are. It is not a fact in the movie that the Daleks are robots from Britain. It is a fact in the movie that the Joker knows so little about the Daleks that he's chosen to interpret them as "Robots or something." It's not actually a fact that they are Robots.

Although, as an important note, please see Destiny of the Daleks

This is very much a nit-pick over a joke that was a last-minute adlib. It is certainly not a moment that you should base your entire argument off of.