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Basically. Not that I'm asking us to outright say this (it is pure speculation that Pratt-as-Crispy-Delgado manages to outright revert the damage to himself in time to regenerate into Beevers), but it is a possibility that should be made room for.

And again, Legacy of the Daleks no less "implies" it shows the origin of the Deadly Assassin Crispy than The Two Masters does. And Legacy also allows for Delgado to be able to regenerate in the general case; there is no conflict on whether he was the 12th Master.

Ultimately, what I'd suggest would be to add a section to the Master page. Or, rather, to dissociate the accounts of not-yet-crispy Thirteenth Master played by Beevers, from the "A body in decay" version. That way, you'd have the Delgado section, which ends with a fork between "maybe this leads directly into Deadly Assassin, maybe he regenerates in Doorway to Hell"; then you'd have the section about non-crispy Beevers, which ends with The Two Masters’s account of him being turned into the Crispy Master; and then you have the "a body in decay" section, now limited to the actual Crispy Master(s) and acknowledging that the timeline is very murky.

I mean, the template as it stands is a mess. A section titled "A body in decay" is saddled with all information about not-yet-decaying Beevers, making its title less than accurate — and what's more, Beevers again plays the shade of the Master post-TV Movie, and yet that template cannot point to both sections at once.

So in terms of the template, we ought to make to the non-crispy instances of his Master, and not the various times he plays the decayed wraith. Then a for Pratt/Beevers as such, and a  or something for the post-Roberts reversion to Beevers.

…Although in my opinion it would be so very much easier to just re-split The Master into individual pages. That way you'd have:
 * The Master (Terror of the Autons) for Delgado (12th Master);
 * The Master (The Two Masters) for pre-Crispy Beevers (13th Master):
 * The Master (The Deadly Assassin) for Pre-TV Movie Crispy, whoever he is;
 * The Master (The Keeper of Traken) for Ainley;
 * The Master (First Frontier) for "Rathbone" in the VNAs;
 * The Master (Dust Breeding), the "second" Beevers after he loses his stolen Trakenite body;
 * Old Master (Doctor Who) for Tipple, who for anyone worried that his page would just consist of "he died" is also the guy in the final Master section of The Eight Doctors;
 * The Master (Doctor Who for Roberts;
 * The Master (The Glorious Dead) for the DWM post-Roberts Master;
 * The Master (Mastermind) for the third Beevers, the shade who is eventually granted a new regeneration cycle in ''Day of the Master.

Past that (and before that) it's all relatively straightforward and uncontroversial.

But even if we don't do this, I hope the above has made it clear that there's something very wrong with the current state of events where things we might want to call "Beevers' Master" don't belong in the section A body in decay to which is stuck linking.