User talk:Sulfur

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 * My 6th edit, and you finally noticed me! :) -- Sulfur 04:59, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

SciFi Wiki
Hi, I;m an admin on the SciFi Wiki and I've seen your work here and on MA and was wondering if you could help out at the SciFi Wiki. Thanks!!!--UESPA 02:16, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Series changes
Thanks for letting me know. As the user who was changing the information was only logged in for 1 of the edits I've given them a final warning. I'll keep an eye out and block them if it becomes necessary. Thanks. --Tangerineduel 07:24, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Quote
Yeah I meant the narrator thing. Your right about that wiki rich thing though. Thanks--Skittles the hog 18:58, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Rich Text Editor
I've contacted Wikia to ask them if they can turn it off or disable it by default for all users. Hopefully I'll get a response soon. Thanks. --Tangerineduel 08:00, January 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * There are none whenever I see a page after editing. As for the editor, it is very hard changing it. For once, it stays on the default rich text editer, and it takes ages for me to switch to the other format each time I want to change over, so it ain't pretty waiting for that, when there is the chance it might not even work because it seems to og very slow changing over. Delton Menace 16:55, January 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Go into your preferences and you should be able to save it, and the rich text editor goes away for good. The spaces are not visible the first time the page is edited (generally).  It's visible the second, and so on-th time.  In fact, at one point this weekend, the end of the "End of Time" article had a single template on each screen.  There were 60-70 lines of blank space between each one. -- sulfur 17:15, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

I got a message back from Wikia support, they said they're in the process of rolling out a update to the rich text editor see here for info on the update.

I am hoping that this update will fix some of the noted issues. The new updates will be rolled out in the next week or so.

They did say it's *possible* to disable the rich text editor for an entire wiki, however: "'it makes such a significant impact on the number of new editors, and the number of edits that they make, that we would very much prefer not to. We would need to see a community consensus that all editors want it turned off, and even then it's important to remember that the RTE is most helpful to the new editors who are least likely to participate in such a discussion. We would much rather work with you to solve any remaining bugs so that there is no community desire to turn the editor off.'"

I think we'll need to wait for this update to come out and see if that fixes the issues, and if not then if you wish to start with a forum topic to come to some sort of consensus.

The alternative I suppose is educating new users on how to turn it off / pros & cons of using it. --Tangerineduel 12:39, January 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I know that it's something we did disable over on Memory Alpha. Best decision we made as a group last year! :)
 * I'll wait to see the updates, and if it doesn't, I'll be more than happy to start a discussion about it. -- sulfur 23:26, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Vincent van Gogh
Hi, I've rolled back both edits the user made to the pages. I'm not sure if a merger is nessecary given the Vincent Van Gogh pages is/has been always been a redirect page. But if the new series titles him as Van then...we shall see. I'll also keep an eye on the VvG article in case of any further user copy/redirecting/edits. Thanks. --Tangerineduel 13:54, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism
As yoru probally well aware were having a slight problem with it here at the moment, we can see one is a registered user. Is there anything we can do or is it a case of waiting for it to happen then fixing it ?--Ximodnic 03:33, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sadly, unless there is an admin about, there's nothing else that can be done. :(
 * I would suggest going back to a known "safe" edit revision though each time, and not just removing what you think is the vandalism. -- sulfur 03:35, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Will do ! -- Ximodnic 03:36, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Infoboxes + CSS
Looks nice. I will admit I know nothing about CSS and have mostly worked out how to do most of the infobox stuff by trial, copy and error. The 4000 is roughly how many articles use the individual infobox. Your additions seem to work (though how might I get the whole infobox to display on the infobox page in its entirety, as it did before your additions? If that's possible?). Also in the individuals infobox's case, we'd still need to look at all 4000 to check which ones need 'mentions' adding to them, but the method you've implemented means we wouldn't need to add 'mentions' to ever single one of those correct?

If I were to just copy the code from the astronomical infobox into the individual infobox (obviously changing the wording for it) it would work just the same I'm assuming? Many thanks, the 4000 infobox changes wasn't something I was looking forward to doing. Fixing the astronomical infobox was a mindnumbing experience enough. --Tangerineduel 12:13, January 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just making the same changes would do the trick for you. In terms of the CSS, something like the following would (should) do the trick.
 * It may not be perfect at first crack, but will allow you to make the infoboxen much simpler. (See after the code chunk here).

table.wiki-sidebar td.sb-both { text-align: center; border-bottom: 1px solid gray; border-top: 1px solid gray; padding-left: 0; padding-right: 0; }

table.wiki-sidebar td.sb-name { text-align: center; bgcolor=Mediumpurple; border-bottom:0px solid gray; font-size:larger; color:Lavender; }

table.wiki-sidebar td.sb-both img { display:block; /*force new line after img in sidebar */ bgcolor=white; margin: 0; padding-left: 0; padding-right: 0; border-bottom: 1px solid gray; border-top: 1px solid gray; }

table.wiki-sidebar td.sb-left { width: 33%; font-weight: bold; text-align: left; border-bottom: 1px solid gray; border-top: 1px solid gray; vertical-align:top; }

table.wiki-sidebar td.sb-right { border-bottom: 1px solid gray; border-top: 1px solid gray; }


 * So, your infobox code would look more like:

|- |-


 * Or:

|- |-


 * Much simpler. Putting the whole box on the page is pretty easy too, but best done on the documentation page.  Over on MA, we've actually done those up as examples of each.  See here for an example.


 * Let me know if you want any help converting templates or whatever. I have no problem helping out where possible (as you have likely noticed). -- sulfur 14:03, January 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey, thanks for sorting all the infoboxes out, it's been on my "I should do something about this" list, but I haven't really got around to it. --Tangerineduel 12:59, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Templates
Thanks for your edit to my templates but I am editing and there is problems with things appearing at the top and it won't go away. Please could you do something about it and when it's done, I'll email you back when you email me. Thanks! Trikster87 16:20 - 28th January 2010
 * When adding the new "acting" bit, you put a random horizontal break in the wrong place, and didn't close an "#if:" check. I fixed that. -- sulfur 16:24, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!
Do you like my new templates! I love 'em! Now I'm going to make a new one about a series and please feel free to contact me whenever you feel like it! Trikster87 - 31st January 2010 16:55
 * A new series? What series?  I'm pretty sure that there's already templates that cover all series. -- sulfur 16:56, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Std pix width on infoboxen
Okay. I see what you're saying. Your templates at MemAlpha have all been rejigged to 292px with no borders so the true width is 292. Everything here should therefore be that as well. I buy that. Fine. I also think that here, as at MemAlpha, editors shouldn't be given a choice as to width, cause they'll put any old thing in. Moreover this means that if the site needs to change in the future, we change one template, and the whole site obeys. And I had infoboxen 6 months ago that did that. But they were shot down as they were being implemented, by the main admin. In the meantime, it seems like everyone is on the infoboxen bandwagon, but I don't really see that much changing. I'm not sure, at this point, if we're going CSS, as you've been pushing things, or if we're just making modifications to our clunky wiki code, as we've always been doing. If it's CSS, I don't think I as a regular user can get into that, can I? Don't you need to be an admin for that? You're probably closer to the seat of power now than I am, judging by talk page interaction. Have you addressed this point to Tangerineduel? And is there a bot that will help us to convert into whatever.jpg so that we can easily make the conversion?  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍  20:10, March 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Most bots can do that easily -- I don't have one (can't get it to compile anymore :, but it's likely best to do something similar to MA and use a template to create the image calls, so that if the ads change or the widths change down the road, there's only one place that needs to be fixed. I've not mentioned it to TD, but could bring it up there easily.  Wouldn't be a problem to do so.
 * Again, the big issue is the 20k pages that have infoboxen with images :( -- sulfur 20:14, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and yes, to fix CSS, you need to be an admin (mediawiki: space). But CSS is a huge pain in the ass, as evidenced by a slew of changes we had to make on MA today to handle a quiet update done by Wikia.  The pains of having a dark background.  Heh. -- sulfur 20:15, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

So where would I get such a bot? Cause I think some of TD's resistance to making the kind of, for lack of a better phrase, "wholesale paradigm shifts" that we need to make to infoboxen is reasonable. None of us signed up to wiki editing in order to trudge through a thousand pages and make one or two tiny little changes on each page. Most of us just want to write, not, essentially, program. Any clues you could give as to finding and using bots would be much appreciated.  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍  20:57, March 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * I see that they've updated the one bot since I last used it, so I'll look into getting that working this weekend actually, and if I can, then I'll approach TD with the proposal on the matter. There are a number of other bots out there, but that was the one I had the most luck with.  I'll let you know the progress on things this weekend. -- sulfur 23:56, March 3, 2010 (UTC)