User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-24894325-20161008100044/@comment-6032121-20181215223026

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-24894325-20161008100044/@comment-6032121-20181215223026 For the record Time Lord 1 and Time Lord 2 at least definitely strike me as very unwieldy. This deserves its own discussion, of course, but I feel like "Golden-robed Time Lord" for "Time Lord 1", or some other such distinction, would be far smoother.

Regardless, I support Renegade Time Lord (The Eleven) as a superior alternative to my suggested Time Lord criminal (The Eleven).

In all honesty, my gut feeling is that even if Time Lord (The Eleven) might well satisfy policy assuming there are no other noteworthy unnamed Time Lords in The Eleven, it's frustratingly vague. "Time Lord (The Eleven)" seems like what the Cybermen would call him in their databanks, slavishly following the letter of their programming.

But am I really the only one who feels like "Renegade Time Lord (The Eleven)", all while also satisfying policy, is a much more fitting title?

Look at it this way: a reader stumbling upon a link to Renegade Time Lord (The Eleven), with even a passing remembrance of what The Eleven was about, will know who the page is talking about. Whereas to parse the meaning of Time Lord (The Eleven) would require the same reader to remember that there were no other Time Lords of note in that story, nor a proper name given to the titular character's overall identity, and they would also have to be familiar enough with Tardis's naming conventions, to thus laboriously, eventually deduce that "Time Lord (The Eleven)" is about the One/Two/…/Eleven/Twelve.