User talk:Tangerineduel

Aberystwyth
Sorry if my changes caused confusion, but it does get a tad confusing. In the episode, the flyer clearly states Aberystwyth University, hence the page being named Aberystwyth university. I'm assuming thats what you wanted to know, so if the following confuses you, just ignore it and remember that it is "Aberystwyth University". (I've just ordered the season one boxset and will add screenshots when it arrives)

At the time the episode was originally aired however, the official name was the University of Wales, Aberystwyth, but was generally shortened to Aberystwyth University. The producers presumably heard it being referred to as Aberystwyth University, and just hadn't realised it was not the university's official name.

Still with me?

Then, during the year between the time that the episode was aired, and the episode was set (thanks to the one year gap established in the new Who season 1) the University became independent from the university of wales, and thefore changed its name from The University of Wales, Aberystwyth to Aberystwyth university. This change in name therefore effectively nullifies the producers mistake, as the name is now correct, given that the episode is set after the name change.

I hope this makes things understandable, and again I apologise for confusing the issue. I really enjoyed my time at Aberystwyth, and in an effort to make the relevant pages, may have got slightly ahead of myself.
 * Geek Mythology 18:45, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Your thoughts on a potential bit of major deleting
A few months back we shared a rant over the inability of some contributors to spell. I've also noticed of late many entries under "Myths" and the errors sections that seem to be stream-of-consciousness comments with no punctuation, no captialization ... and of course bad spelling. I haven't bothered to look at who might be putting these in but I bet they'll be anonymous IPs. I think based upon the way these things have been added, they should be considered suspect and removed from the articles. I've already removed a few that have been patently dubious or just outright wrong (I can't remember the detail but in one case someone added one of these sloppy notes to the Discontinuity section for an episode, pointing out something that was clearly stated throughout the episode. It's almost as if they were EUI - editing under the influence). I don't want to start pulling out stuff willy nilly without checking with someone first so I wonder what your thoughts are on this. Or should we just correct the spelling and capitalization and add periods, etc. and let things stand? (On a related note, if IPs are the cause of some of these problems, maybe Tardis should follow the lead of the Battlestar Galactica Wiki and restrict edits to registered users?) 23skidoo 16:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * For an example of what I'm talking about, please see The Deadly Assassin. Check the edit marked "delete useless" in the history and see what I removed. There is in fact a registered user attached to this, Assassin of Death, though I've yet to link him/her to the other edits I'm referring to above. I checked the contributions and they appear to be a mix of properly formatted additions, and stuff like what I deleted. 23skidoo 17:19, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Generally, when I see something like this, first I see if I can figure out what they were trying to say. If not, cut. After that, if it's a valid point, I try to clean it up. If it's just pointless, I cut it.
 * I'd be against requiring edits only for registered users. Mainly because I got into this wiki as editing as an unregistered user. (Of course, depending on how you feel about my edits and my OCD, this could be a good thing or a bad thing.) Monkey with a Gun 17:46, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Just a quick comment on this reply: Also another thing I don't think we should have is retroactively applying continuity to the discontinuity section should also be removed. That is calling out an old story as having incorrect elements because of a newer story. (I recently edited The Five Doctors which had some stuff in the discontinuity section relating to Last of the Time Lords. It's not really The Five Doctors' discontinuity, it's Last of the Time Lords'.)

I don't disagree with that, however I think it works if we use a newer story to cover off a potential discontinuity in an older story. For example, in Five Doctors there's the question as to why Susan would recognize the Cybermen. Based on what was known in continuity in 1983, she shouldn't have. However from 2009 perspective we now know she could have heard about the events of Doomsday or any of the other Cybermen invasions that happened at other points in history. So mentioning this in the rationale is fair game. I agree, however that if something established in an older story is contradicted by a later story, then that's mostly the fault of the later story (unless it's a key point of contention, such as a UNIT dating issue, or something like the "mystery Doctors" in Brain of Morbius). I think doing the retroactive game (which is often played with Star Trek, too) can be fun -- as long as we keep the order of things proper. 23skidoo 03:39, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Protection project page
I just read the page you created regarding page protection. Good work. If I might make a suggestion, when pages are protected on the main Wikipedia, the template that indicates same usually indicates that if someone wishes to add content but cannot, that they place a request on the article's discussion page, at which point a user not affected by the block can decide whether to add the information. It might not hurt to add such a statement to either the tag you created, or the explanation page. Otherwise I could imagine you might end up getting talk page messages from IPs of good faith (or not-so-good faith) who want to add stuff. If someone goes through the trouble of posting such a request, it probably would increase confidence that the information is valid, as opposed to just a random edit/rumor. 23skidoo 21:52, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Another possible notice box idea
I just added a small disclaimer to the "real world" section of the 2009 article here. I think it's worth noting this considering some events and dates do change. I think having a real world chronology is quite important though - and I think the day-by-day chronology for earlier years is one of the best things about this wiki. I think having just the bold line of text is OK, but if you think a boxed notice would look better (or if in fact one exists), please feel free to replace it. Ideally this notice should be added to all real world calendar date sections (2010, 2011, etc) and of course removed when the year in question has ended. What do you think? 23skidoo 16:24, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That's cool. I'll go ahead and add that one line at least for the 2010 and maybe 2011 articles when I have the chance (I don't see the need to do 2012 as from that point and beyond it's pretty much guesswork anyway - within reason, of course!). Incidentally, I've now cut ties to Wikipedia pretty much for good. I've been weaning myself off that project ever since the atmosphere over there got too unpleasant and I saw the writing on the wall that pop-culture-based articles were not long for this world (i.e. individual articles on DW episodes, for example). I was doing some editing on the sly and got slapped down for adding some material to a TV show article based upon episodes of a particular series (not Doctor Who), but because it wasn't published in some book somewhere they wouldn't allow it and were rather snarky in their responses. Not saying I agree 100% with every call for sources on this project, and looking at things like the discussion on The Doctor and the Enterprise there are some users who don't believe the Tardis Wikia should be "inclusive", but you guys are far more even-handed about it from what I've seen than the tin gods at Wikipedia. Pardon the digression - just had to rant a little! 23skidoo 12:39, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Marnal
Hi, I was just wondering if you had read EDA: The Gallifrey Chronicles. If you have, could you take a look at the Marnal article? Most of it was written by me, but I haven't actually read the novel and got my information from the Internet. I just wanted to see if anyone who has actually read the book could confirm the information in the article. Thanks.--The Traveller 19:46, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

K9 Prefix
With new series K9 coming to we need a new prefix I would suggest K9A as in K9 Adventures. --Catkind121 12:14, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Restoration of Potential Vandalism
I was looking at the recent edits and noticed a large swaths of Journey's End (~8000 characters) and The Stolen Earth (~16,000 characters) had been removed by an IP user. I left a note in the talk section of The Stolen Earth and responded to a comment over in the Panopticon from the same IP user. Since this is my first time restoring someone's deletions, let me know if I handled it correctly. Thanks. --Raukodraug 21:41, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Message to/From Wikia Central
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"Wikia Community Support" 

To:

(my email address)

Date:

Wed, 24 Jun 2009 4:48 AM

Hi Tangerineduel,

Thank you for your thoughtful note. It is a little bit of a conundrum, but I think you certainly have grounds for honest discussion with the community, and shouldn't be worried about conflict of interest if your state your case plainly.

People who are clever with wiki and template code can do amazing things, but I agree that code which relies on a single user for maintenance or improvement actually decreases the utility of the wiki, especially for new users.

One possible solution would be to move Czech's code to another template name, where s/he can resume work on it if and when they return, and then edit the resulting redirect to restore the desired simpler template.

Thank you for contacting us!

Catherine Munro Wikia Community Team

Original message sent to wiki community team
On 2009-06-20 08:36:07, (my email address) wrote:

Hi, I'm an admin (and frequent editor) over at the Doctor Who Wiki (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Who_Wiki) and I'm in a little bit of a quandary. A user has made significant changes to one infobox (I might add approved more or less by the user base. (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Infobox_Comic) Is the infobox in question. Our old infoboxes which are still used across the site on everything *except the comic one* which he said was a test bed for it are still intact and they're relatively easy to edit (through either knowledge or even trial and error and are more or less easy to manipulate for whatever purposes).

They are also more or less functional, they're not as fancy as this newly implemented one, but they worked. (Sorry I tend to ramble as a lead in, I will get to the point) Anyways he's not been around for about 17 days and as the only user who was really fluent in (I'm searching for the word) but fluent in making the whole new infobox work with all its collapsing functions, automation and whatever, the project has come to a halt, leaving the wiki with an oddly disjointed design.

I have tried and failed to "have a go" at it, though this design is far less forgiving than our other (simpler) infoboxes. (this is what one of our more simpler infoboxes looks like; http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Infobox_ClassicTV)

I just wanted to know whether it's within the wikiness to propose a revert to how the infobox was before.

I might also add that I was somewhat vocal about several features of the infobox's features (mostly down to usability of the navigation arrows over text), so I'm debating whether I would have (or as it would appear to have) a conflict of interest if I proposed a revert of this).

Any advice would be helpful.

Thanks.

Responses to the above messages
I personally really like the comic infoboxes that Czech designed. That said I think pushing it into the live database before we had redesigned the other infoboxes does cause a bit of a disjointed feel. As it stands now, I would vote to revert the comic infobox templates back to the old style. and move the new template to a new name as noted by the wikia staffer.

At the same time I really do like what Czech did and I'm wondering if it would behoove us to create a "New Infobox Project" page to link the new comic infobox to (where we could also have a discussion about what we really want to see out of the infoboxes in terms of color/info). I would love to work on something like this... if anyone can point me in the direction of a decent tutorial... 'cause after playing around with creating infoboxes for the DW Extended Wiki, I realize how hard it is to develop and maintain an infobox that works right. Of course, I'm not a coder which could be some of the problem. --Raukodraug 21:47, 24 June 2009 (UTC)