User talk:Tangerineduel

Changes to archiving coming
Mini-mitch recently reminded me of a bit of unfinished java code that I'd installed s few months ago. It makes the archiving of talk and user talk pages much easier.

I thought all this time it didn't work, but thanks to mini-mitch's prodding, I've discovered with the developer that there's actually what seems to be a Mac-specific bug when attempting to use it in the Oasis/Wikia/Default skin. Thus, ironically, the tech admin couldn't see his own tech upgrade.

As a Windows user — at least I think you're a Windows user — you will have long noticed an option under the edit drop-down on talk pages. if you use it now you'll sort of be able to archive pages, but you'll get a redlinked template. So it's not ready for prime time.

But now that the developer and I seem to have identified the issue, I think that this feature will be coming fully online by the end of the month at the outside. I'll of course keep you posted. And when it's ready there'll be help files, announcements on the community-corner and in the Panopticon as usual. That said, the feature may fully work before the announcements. However, I don't want to make announcements before I can give definitive instructions to fellow Mac users.

At the moment, it is available to Mac users, but only in Monobook. That may be how it stays, but I want to be able to either say, "Mac users must use Monobook skin to see this feature" or "All users will find this feature under the edit button whilst on talk: and user talk: pages."

I'm really sorry that we've had a not-quite-functional button under the edit menu on talk pages all this time, but I just couldn't see it. 02:28:50 Sun 22 May 2011
 * Oh cool, you're a Mac user. So you're definitely using the wikia skin and you're definitely not seeing this archive thing in the edit/leave messge menu, even after purging your cache?


 * What version of OS X and your browser(s) are you using? If I can get another Mac user to confirm my won findings, then it's not just my personal system, and I can maybe kick it up to Wikia Central as a platform specific issue that they might look at.   16:16:46 Sun 22 May 2011
 * Ah hah! This is good, this is a lead.  Can you go under Apple menu | About this Mac | More info then scroll down to Software | Applications, then go to the "J"s in the list of applications and give me the version numbers of everything starting with the word "Java"?  So, "java Preferences, Java Web Start, and Java (version number) Plugin Settings.  Also, please go under Software | Frameworks and again give me the Framework Name and version of everythign beginning with "Java" (should be about seven things).    It'd be really helpful.   17:06:51 Sun 22 May 2011


 * I can't see the archive button itself — well, technically I can now, but only by use of a workaround, which means I'm not seeing it through the same code as you — so I can't detect whether my changes are making the "double vision" disappear.  Could you please clear your cache and tell me if you're still seeing two archive buttons?   15:46:24 Thu 26 May 2011

PNG format
What is wrong with the PNG format? RVSP, BroadcastCorp. 12:49, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay, sorry I added PNG pictures. Should I convert them to JPG? And sorry for putting my message at the top of the page, I just thought you could notice it most there. BroadcastCorp 16:15, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Problem report on 25 May
Your front page problems have been fixed. Not quite sure why the printfooter (that little message about being "retrieved from tardis wikia") started appearing on the front page. It's been there a while, and I assumed it to be something to do with the changes to the wikia skin that happened a couple of months ago. It's the involuntary "stamp" you get when you print out a page from the wikia. In any case, I've forcibly shut it down. The center tag thingie was showing up because of the new feature I added to the front page yesterday. I forgot to close the center tag at Doctor Who Wiki/FastFacts, and thus the open tag cascaded down the page as far as it could until it hit another open center tag, which confused it.

The other business you're discovering on the talk page is sort of a knock-on effect of what's going on with the ArchiveTool thingie. You're basically right in your assessment of the "collision" that's going on. It'll get fixed soon. It kind of only affects admins, because only we have so many options in our edit dropdown. Normal users shouldn't have enough lines in their dropdown to experience the collision. In the meantime, of course, you can just use your footer tools to achieve whatever you can't currently access under the edit dropdown. 14:33:14 Wed 25 May 2011
 * You should now no longer be experiencing collision. If you are, please clear your cache and check again.  Can you tell me whether you're seeing one archive button or two under the edit dropdown.   16:11:45 Wed 25 May 2011

Protecting the Eye Patch Lady article
To me I think it is unnecessary to lock the page. The least you could do is protect it. I have some contributions and images to add to that article and now I can't because it's locked. RSPB, BroadcastCorp. 19:55, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

More about our presence on wikia.com/Entertainment
We were looking to change the description underneath our wiki name on the Entertainment top 10 list. Well, I found where they got the text from: MediaWiki:Description. I've since changed it to be basically what we actually say on our front page, as you can see by clicking the link. They've obviously not just linked there, cause it's had no immediate effect. Perhaps they scrape everybody's MediaWiki:Description page once a day, or once a week. I say let's leave it a week. If our description doesn't change by the premiere of the mid-season finale, we'll assume sulfur was right and they've just got it gathering dust on an internal server somewhere. Then, we'll Special:Contact them and ask them to please use our current Description. That'll give you a chance to tweak the language a bit. 14:14:47 Sun 29 May 2011

Wikia welcome template
Not sure if you saw my comment here, but at MA, we came up with a clever trick to work around the "template subst'ing" that the Wikia bot does. -- sulfur 22:34, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Tardis:image requests
So I was performing the final archive on Forum:Image Requests, and was trying to explain why Tardis:Image requests had been deleted. You'd given the rationale of "not really required anymore", when it struck me that I didn't really know why it would have been deleted. Yes, there's Special:WantedFiles, but that's not really the same thing as tardis:image requests, because the latter allows users to fully describe the kinda picture they were looking for. Why did you say it wasn't necessary anymore, if you can remember? Was it just that people weren't using the page, because by now most editors know how to take basic screenshots? 02:05:04 Tue 31 May 2011
 * You might want to take a look at Forum:The Special:Import feature. 08:47:01 Tue 31 May 2011

Persistent talk pages
Yeah, that's interesting. I suppose the question I'd have is why anyone would save an orphaned talk page. I don't think I've ever left behind a talk page if I've deleted a main page. I mean, what's the point of having Talk:Patchwork person around? The only thing that does is keep "patchwork person" a searchable term that brings up the ns;1 page instead of the ns:0 one. I suppose that means people might be deterred from re-starting a patchwork person page, but I'd tend to think we don't want to expose ordinary readers directly to a talk page through the search box. Also, since this isn't the usual practice with deletion, people might wonder why sometimes a search for a deleted page results in the talk page coming up, and sometimes, most times, it doesn't. If Skittles was worried about people recreating patchwork person, I would have thought creation protection more effective. This way, if someone did recreate the page, the old talk page would be attached to a new page. That could become potentially very confusing. In my view, if Skittles — or any other admin — is generally deleting only ns:0 when he deletes a page, he should probably change his practices. Plenty of pages get deleted at one moment in time but are successfully revived later. Resurrected pages really shouldn't have an old version of the talk page attached to them. 16:05:37 Tue 31 May 2011