User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-24894325-20170121220436/@comment-24894325-20170121231125

As this change would affect more than one page, it should rightfully be discussed at Panopticon so that editors of other affected pages would be given a chance to participate.

And no, I respect the decision about the inclusion of Faction Paradox and would ask you to equally respect the collective wisdom of more than 2000 edits to the Doctor's TARDIS page over the past 10 years that did not make it an individual despite all the sources you cite.

This is truly not a trivial matter.

As for the tension, let me explain how your edit looked to a non-initiated reader. There was a mention of Lolita in the infobox, with no reference made anywhere in the text. TARDIS was called a species, Type 40 was another species, and Mark 3 was a third species, not yet having a page. But going to the page TARDIS, one would not see a mention of it being a species. There it is a time-space vessel, no different from Dalek time machines or any other member of Category:Space-time vessels for that matter. So there's your tension: a large number of pages with information directly contradicting new information from one of the most important pages on the Wiki. Yes, we have plenty of contradictions, I know. But that's no reason to intentionally create additional ones.

As I said, if you want to change the point of view of this Wiki that TARDISes are individuals, there are tons of pages you need to change. Potentially, every page in Category:TARDIS is affected. In addition, the category tree will have to undergo changes itself, changes that, at the very least, require careful consideration. Thus, I insist that such a change not be taken lightly.