User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-197.86.143.126-20200606192351/@comment-45692830-20200710210516

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-197.86.143.126-20200606192351/@comment-45692830-20200710210516 197.86.143.194 wrote:

But what about the human soldiers travelling in the SIDRATs? Did they all have Rassilon Imprimaturs? What about time rings, and static electricity with mirrors? You are clearly trying to defend the undefendable.

Again, you seem to think that the Rassilon Imprimatur is needed to time travel rather than to survive the effects of time travel. But this just isn't supported by the text. And if it's the latter we have no clue how long it takes to kill someone. Radiation can take quite some time to kill someone IRL. To think that these people would just drop dead borders on question begging.

197.86.143.194 wrote:

But, the main points in the OP were:

1) It is explicitly stated in The War Games (TV story) that The Doctor and The War Chief each stole a TARDIS.

2) It is explicitly stated in Doctor Who and the Sea-Devils (novelisation) (among many others) that The Doctor and The Master each stole a TARDIS.

3) It is explicitly stated in Doctor Who and the Doomsday Weapon (novelisation) that only TWO TARDISes have ever been stolen up to that point, one by the Doctor, and one by the Master.

Well I'm glad we established that The Monk is the Master.

197.86.143.194 wrote:

4) Furthermore, the exact same chapter of the exact same book gives the events of The War Games (TV story) when describing the history between the Doctor and the Master.

Reasonable point. Don't disagree. In the context of 3 this actually suggests that they're intended to be the same character by the authors. Not sure if it's sufficient, I do want to see Holmes' thoughts, but I don't deny this point. Again, I don't have a horse in this race. I'm here to dispute bad arguments.

197.86.143.194 wrote:

5) It is explicitly stated in The War Games (TV story) that the Doctor and the War Chief are both renegade Time Lords.

6) It is explicitly stated in Doctor Who and the Terror of the Autons (novelisation)(among many others) that the Doctor and the Master are both renegade Time Lords.

7) It is explicitly stated in The Three Doctors (novelisation) that, prior to Omega, the Doctor had only ever come up against ONE renegade Time Lord...The Master.

8) When the War Chief sees the Doctor in Doctor Who and the War Games (novelisation), he states that there is only one person the Doctor can be.

9) In an interview reprinted in DWM 91, Malcolm Hulke, who co-wrote The War Games (TV story), and actually speaks at length about The War Games in the exact same interview states that the Doctor and the Master were the only two renegade Time Lords at that time.

Again, I'm glad you've established that the Monk and the Master are the same person. Like. C'mon. These statements obviously contradict things we know about the "continuity" of the world from that time. So unless the War Chief or the Master are brought up in the same context, to show some textual connection, and thus an intentional allusion, it's just a continuity error.