Talk:Doctor Who Farted (TV story)

Writer
Is there a source that Seth himself wrote this? Andrew Goldberg is credited as the writer of the episode this is from. And Seth hasn’t actually worked on Family Guy outside of doing voices since 2010. NightmareofEden ☎  15:51, November 19, 2020 (UTC)

Alien
If this is considered an official source (even if invalid as DWU), then surely the alien species itself should have its own page (in Non-DWU species)? Cookieboy 2005 ☎  14:15, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Just a cutaway?
Surely this should cover the entirety of Inside Family Guy, and not just "Doctor Who Farted"? It'd be weird to have a page for Peter Griffin, but he appeared in a story featuring licensed Doctor Who universe-related material. Cookieboy 2005 ☎  15:48, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * (it just feels like it would be required to retain a neutral point of view - I mean, we even have a page for the real-world William Shakespeare as a writer) Cookieboy 2005 ☎  20:11, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

The Griffins
I made pages for the Griffins because, as far as I'm concerned, the part where the announcer introduces the episode ("we now return to Doctor Who Farted") is just as much a part of the skit as everything else. It sets it up and gives it an in-universe context - that it's a television episode being watched on TV by the Griffins. That technically makes Lois, Meg, Chris, Stewie and Brian characters in my book. WaltK ☎  16:17, 15 July 2023 (UTC)


 * That's... not how cutaway gags work in Family Guy.
 * With all cutaway gags in the show, characters go "hey do you remember when X Y Z" and it cuts to X Y Z. While this cutaway gag is framed as an in-universe episode, it functionally does not differ from a more conventional flashback cutaway gag, but the characters referencing the contents of the gag — contextualising it in the narrative of the episode — doesn't mean that said reference is part of the cutaway gag. 20:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)


 * "With all cutaway gags in the show" is a very sweeping statement that is completely contradicted by this skit's very existence. I could see were you were coming from if this were set up as a flashback like the majority of cutaway gags, but this is depicted as something happening in the present.


 * Covering it otherwise would be like if we only covered that one scene in Extras: The Special as "the Doctor and an unnamed companion once confronted an enemy called Schlong" instead of "Andy Millman played an enemy called Schlong in an episode of Doctor Who", which is currently how we cover it, and the scene is set up in a way not unlike Family Guy's cutaways. WaltK ☎  20:22, 15 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I think there is a large difference between acknowledging that this is an "in-universe episode" and literally covering part of the preceding scene which has been completely and artificially sliced from the rest of the narrative. If we cover the bit in the Griffins' home because it references the cutaway gag, I guess we're covering the entire episode as the scene in the Griffins' home is part of the full narrative of Inside Family Guy. 20:29, 15 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Even if the proceeding scene is part of the overall narrative, it still has a very clear cutoff point from both ends, which is made easier from the fact that it's literally the very first scene of the episode. If you look at it through that lens, we're given an immediate setup (with no other narrative beforehand that we'd need to consider); when the skit ends, we cut back to the Griffins' about to have a conversation that has nothing to do with what we just saw, effectively making that final shot of the Doctor attempting to waft his guff cloud out of the TARDIS ("So, how was your weekend?") the end of the relevant scene and, thus, our coverage from there on. WaltK ☎  20:37, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

About the potential rename
While I'd be all for the page being retitled to Inside Family Guy, I will point out the Doctor Who Farted title does have a… sort of official backing to it.

The official Doctor Who website's report on the crossover has an embedded link to a YouTube upload of the cutaway by the Doctor Who Farted title (or Family Guy - Doctor Who Farted!, to be more precise). The only snag is that the upload is in this weird grey area of not even being an "official" upload, despite its usage by an official source. WaltK ☎  19:55, 15 July 2023 (UTC)


 * While we're on the subject; is this article the only "proof" we have that this skit is in any way "official" from the BBC side of things? Our actual claim of the broadcaster having given them permission appears to lack an actual source. This is important, as we must depend upon it to be even able to cover this skit to begin with. WaltK ☎  20:09, 15 July 2023 (UTC)


 * As for the YouTube video... I do not believe that title is remotely reliable. The clip was unofficially uploaded on 13 December 2017, nearly a year after our article — titled Doctor Who Farted — was created on 24 December 2016, so there is the very very real possibility that the name of the YouTube video was based upon our article.
 * Plus, I don't think the BBC embedding the video in their article means anything, especially as it seems retroactive as the article was published on 22 July 2016.


 * As for the licensing of this cutaway gag, I have never actuallyfound any proof online that it is. The Wiki page used to directly assert it but it was unsourced. Frankly, I think we need to check the end credits of Inside Family Guy and check.
 * This cutaway gag has been nothing but issues, in my eyes. 20:18, 15 July 2023 (UTC)


 * That last sentence is honestly something I couldn't agree more on at this point. Not being able to find a concrete source is probably the best thing that could ever happen for us. WaltK ☎  20:29, 15 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I have found no acknowledgement in the episode's credits. The only other places you could potentially find confirmation are the episode's DVD commentary or the book Inside Family Guy: An Illustrated History. WaltK ☎  21:03, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

"The BBC gave permission"
Highlighting this in the likely event that it gets overlooked: our ability to cover this thing in the first place depends upon a currently unsourced claim that the Doctor Who scene was done with the blessing of the BBC.

I have been unable to find any online documentation of such a claim, and the episode's own ending credits provide no evidence. The only other places I can think of finding a potential source are the episode's DVD audio commentary (assuming it has one), and the publication Inside Family Guy: An Illustrated History (which has a section on the episode, according to the Family Guy Wiki).

This and a number of other pages have been created under the premise that this is an officially licensed crossover. Solid evidence is required to ensure the continued existence of these pages on the wiki. If anyone has access to the DVD or book and can confirm anything said on either, or if you know of a concrete online source, please let us know! WaltK ☎  22:01, 16 July 2023 (UTC)