Talk:Hoverbout

Proper Spelling of "Transsolar Disc"
Where did the double-s spelling originate? From the printed examples I have seen, the craft was spelled "Transolar Disc" with only one "S".  Trak Nar  Ramble on 06:27, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I would like to know the answer to that question, also. Since I'm more familiar with 1960s comics I would also like to know more about when this term has been used. From the way this article is written, one would think that TD's originated in Big Finish audios. Here is a list of usages of the terms from 1964-1966. This isn't a complete list of appearances but a representative history of the terms and their spellings. Hoverbout is more of a broad class of vehicles and will need a separate article. Richard Jennings stories are consistent about what a Hoverbout is. John Woods created the first anomalous hovabout and Ron Turner may have used this as a jumping off point to make anything he wanted including jets with skis underneath them. More than half the time they were unnamed but the definition is so loose any small Dalek craft with flying capability can be included. Whatever they were called, any additional Dalek hovering platforms (like Polystyle ones or ones from the first Abslom Daak story) can be placed here instead of Hoverbout.

1964 1965 1966
 * The Dalek Book: Invasion of the Daleks (comic story) - Transolar Disk / Transolar Disc
 * The Dalek Book: The Oil Well - hovabout is a metal tower with a propeller
 * The Dalek Book: Anatomy of a Dalek feature - "Transolar Disk, or Hovabout, as it is generally known" (capitalised)
 * The Dalek Book: Battle for the Moon - only IDed as a Hovabout but is a TD
 * Cadet Sweets (Sweet Cigarettes card set): Doctor – Who and the Daleks - Hoverbout / transolar discs (story 1) transolar-discs (story 2 hyphenated) - Hoverbout is the more frequently used term and is often capitalised even when the other term isn't. Spelling is precise even if the grammar isn't.
 * TV21: Plague of Death - Hoverbout (TD - first appearance in TV21)
 * The Dalek Pocketbook and Space Travellers Guide - Dalek Anatomy feature (recycled from earlier feature with new art) - "Transolar Disc, or Hovabout, as it is generally known" (capitalised)
 * The Dalek World: Dalek Task Force feature - Transolar Disk
 * TV21: The Terrorkon Harvest among the craft used is what looks like a TD but with a giant hemispherical underside; another craft positively identified as a Hoverbout is a flying boat armed with four voltoscopes, its about the size of a lorry, manned by two Daleks but could probably fit four (first Turner TD that doesn't look like the Jennings version, first Turner hoverbout that isn't a TD)


 * "Hovabout" was replaced with Hoverbout quite early as the preferred term for a TD and I wasn't even aware any source after 1965 insisted on saying Transolar Disc (or Disk), even though its the only type you see in multiple stories. Disc and Disk were nearly equal in use at the time. The fan-comic Second Empire tries to delineate the other types as different classes of hoverbout but there is no attempt in the official comics themselves. The Hoverbout in AUDIO: The Genocide Machine could be anything while COMIC: Fire and Brimstone is pretty clearly a Turner-type TD.

--Nyktimos 04:05, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Rename: Hoverbout
As Nyktimos says above there's a high usage of the term "hoverbout", especially in the TV21 stories, in some of the others he hasn't mentioned Legacy of Yesteryear (comic story), Shadow of Humanity (comic story) and The Road to Conflict (comic story) sees several hoverbouts of different size and shape all of which are named as "hoverbout". --Tangerineduel / talk 18:10, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I second this. "Hovorbout" is the original name and should be changed to that. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 21:59, September 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've moved this page to Hoverbout as that's the more frequently used spelling. I'm not sure if it's useful to even create a redirect as I can't find any use of that spelling on the wiki. --Tangerineduel / talk 14:25, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Image
Although the original had a pure white background, does a version with the background manually cropped out really count as in-universe? Editing out speech bubbles over a monotone background is one thing, but this seems a bit much. Cookieboy 2005 ☎  21:24, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

(just added a gallery) Cookieboy 2005 ☎  21:25, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't see why it wouldn't count as in-universe; as you say the original has the print equivalent, a blank white background. But it's still very odd and unnecessary. Comic images on the Wiki aren't supposed to be transparent-background PNGs! They're not meant to be PNGs at all. The JPG version should be reinstated posthaste. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 21:31, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I've changed it back to JPG. Cookieboy 2005 ☎  21:35, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Well technically .pngs and .svgs are allowed when either line drawings or transparency is necessary, but this image doesn't fulfill these criteria, so it's a moot point. 21:40, 16 October 2022 (UTC)