Talk:Gallifreyan history

according to The War gallifrey was destroyed after that, so how can it be destroyed again in the time war? I renember reading somewhere that it was "remade" or something. i'm confused.---Si http://images.wikia.com/tardis/images/e/e4/Si_HTL_Seal_Leader.PNG 15:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * In The Ancestor Cell Gallifrey is destroyed (in fact there isn't much left of the whole system.
 * At the end of The Gallifrey Chronicles it's revealed that the Doctor has the Matrix in his head.
 * At some point after The Gallifrey Chronicles, (it's assumed that) the Doctor and Marnal reconstitute Gallifrey and rebuild the Time Lords...just in time to fight the Last Great Time War.
 * But as with the time war there isn't any explanation of how it happened, just that it did some how happen.
 * RTD has stated that The War and the Last Great Time War are separate from each other. --Tangerineduel 16:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * one of the EDA's set before the amnesiac Doctor on Earth arc also describes the existence of nine(?) Gallifreys. the original got cloned as decoys for the Enemy.


 * That would be; The Taking of Planet 5 which mentions Nine Gallifreys, The Shadows of Avalon (I think) calls Romana War Queen of the Nine Gallifreys, The Ancestor Cell definatley refers to Romana as Mistress (or War Queen) of the Nine Gallifreys. --Tangerineduel 18:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Gallifreyan later history
This later history seems to be missing great chunks (I tried to write it but couldn't work out the best way to approach it); but basically (as discussed in Talk:The War) there were a few other Wars that went on (actually not just in the later history). But there is The War, there's the whole anti-time crisis with the Oubliette of Eternity and other such gadgets. Romana's challenge to Flavia's presidency (mentioned in NA: Happy Endings, Lungbarrow). There's also Gallifrey's first destruction (EDA: The Ancestor Cell). --Tangerineduel 03:35, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd be inclined to do it by first having a section on Romana II's Presidency. That would take us through the later New Adventures and the Big Finish material. You could then follow that up with the Romana III/Eve of the War EDA stuff.


 * There's a few continuity problems here. Leela and Romana meet for the first time in Zagreus when they already know each other in Lungbarrow. There's no sign of Leela's son in the Big Finish stories. Big Finish also claim Andred is from House Deeptree rather than House Redlooms. Some people make a terribly big thing out of this, but myself I think it's pretty small potatoes for Doctor Who and there's no real problem with assuming Big Finish's account of the Rommana II presidency picks up where the Virgin account leaves off. Rommana forgot Leela for Some Unknown Reason, the kid went to Some Unknown Place and Andred's House has at least two names. Easy.


 * Things do get a bit confusing when you consider Braxiatel. The Gallifrey series is meant to be a prelude to the Bernice audios, but ends with Brax seemingly preparing for the Last Great Time War. Over in the Benny Audios however, Gallifrey has suffered it's Ancestor Cell destruction by the time of Season Two, but has been restored by Season Five and is still existant by Season Eight. What's going on here though are probably just problems we'll need to face when we write Braxiatel a full biography rather than a major worry now.


 * So I think the History of late Gallifrey looks something like this...


 * The Eight Doctors (Flavia is still President, so the Eighth Doctor has travelled into Gallifrey's past. Naughty boy, but hardly a first offense.)


 * Happy Endings (Romana II becomes President)


 * Christmas on a Rational Planet (The escape of the Grandfather from Shada and thus the severing of House Paradox)


 * Lungbarrow


 * The Sirens of Time (occurs during the Twenty years Romana was missing on Etra Prime as established in the next story)


 * The Apocalypse Element (Romana returns to power. The Sixth Doctor interacts with what for him is Gallifrey's future. Naughty boy.)


 * Shada (The Webcast version. The first meeting between President Romana and the Eighth Doctor as they go back to experience the adventure which Borusa's timescoop sucked out of continuity.)


 * Time of the Daleks/Neverland/ Zagreus


 * The whole of the Gallifrey series of audios.


 * An unseen resolution of the cliffhanger that series ends on.


 * All of the EDA depictions of Gallifrey from Shadows of Avalon on.


 * I'm not sure where the DWM stuff like The Final Chapter could fit. Maybe in Romana's twenty-year absense?--Richard Jones 22:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)