User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-4028641-20170222073756/@comment-4028641-20170305034527

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-4028641-20170222073756/@comment-4028641-20170305034527 Thefartydoctor wrote:

Is there any form of true, real connection between the universe in which the LEGO Batman Movie is set and the DWU? And a true, real connection is a rift, a wormhole, a gateway...

I think it's been proven that the Phantom Zone was meant as a multi-universe prison.

A quote posted earlier:

"I loved the [1978 Richard Donner-directed] Superman and the idea that the Phantom Zone, in our world, could possibly house all of the villains from other LEGO universes."

- Director Chris McKay in interview for Entertainment Weekly

So, ergo, someone in the DWU trapped the Daleks in the Phantom Zone. The Phantom Zone connects to all universes. The Batman universe thus connects to the Phantom Zone, and the Phantom Zone is connected to the DWU.

The Bad Wolf references have been listed as a good example that the LEGO DWU basically just wants to be the DWU, but it looks like LEGO. They don't re-tell stories, they don't retcon anything. They take the universe that exists and adds onto it. Bad Wolf only makes sense if Rose Tyler did everything with Bad Wolf.

If LEGO had tried to do a re-telling of someone else making Bad Wolf a thing, then we'd be able to go "oh, this isn't meant to be the DWU." But we don't have any of that. We just have the DWU, but it looks kinda weird. We have Moffat refusing to call it non-canon. I keep making the comparison because it keeps being relevant -- this is no more worthy of being invalid than the Titan back-up comics are.