User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-39450671-20200330222925/@comment-197.86.143.126-20200606115758

Surely there are already split Masters pages? Whoa re Stream (The Hollows of Time), The War King, Man with the Rosette, Magnus (Flashback), The Master (Scream of the Shalka), The Master (Sympathy for the Devil), The Master (The Curse of Fatal Death)? And that's not even including The War Chief.

Of course, there are very contradictory things in-narrative here.


 * If Koschei and the Troughton Doctor hadn't seen each other in 200 years in The Dark Path (novel), how does the Constable Goody Master fit in?


 * Big Finish have made it abundantly clear that the "Tremas" Master, the "Bruce" Master, the Preacher Master(and others such as Richard and Don Maestro) are all just Geoffrey Beevers, using other bodies as "meat suits". Thus, everyone from The Deadly Assassin (TV story) through Ravenous 4 is the sane incarnation. Actually, this incarnation appears before The Deadly Assassin in, if I recall correctly, The Two Masters (audio story). How then does the Master regenerate in First Frontier (novel) into the "Basil Rathbone Master"? Even if that Master starts to decay, it wouldn't be into Beevers.


 * The earliest Master, chronologically, is William Hughes in The Sound of Drums (TV story)/Last of the Time Lords (TV story). Is this the same incarnation as Goody? I don't think so for a nanosecond. For one, the Doctor is an elderly frail First Doctor, whereas the Master is in a younger body, showing he has regenerated. This fits in with Flashback (comic story), where Magnus is said to have regenerated while still on Gallifrey, not from death, but because he didn't want an "old body".


 * Legacy of the Daleks (novel) clearly established that Roger Delgadoand Peter Pratt are the same incarnation of the Master. More recently, The Two Masters (audio story) appears to state that they're not. And Doorway to Hell (comic story) seems to take the new, revisionist, Big Finish position.


 * Now, would Tremas and Bruce count as their own incarnations? They're clearly just stolen bodies, but Anthony Ainley and Eric Roberts each gave their own take on the character.


 * Where, if at all, would the Magistrate/War King fit in?