User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-9435571-20141110033107

I took the liberty of starting to integrate the two versions of Cybermen into one proper article at Cyberman rather than having them as two entirely separate versions even though the Moffat era version is by now pretty clearly a merger of both the classic Mondasian Cybermen and the Cybus Cybermen, so the distinction is more of a historical one than anything that has any bearing on the Cybermen as a whole.

In Nightmare in Silver (TV story) we can actually see that the Mondas Cybermen came across at least the remains of the Cybus Cybermen (which were stored in Hedgewick's World of Wonders). In Assimilation² (comic story) we can actually see Cybus and Cyber-Legion Cybermen working together, even if it was originally a production error. Even if some far-future versions of the Cybermen from the comics etc. were meant to be purely Mondasian in origin initially, we can't really make the assumption in-universe at this point that they are not descended from both groups.

I've seen this discussed before on the wiki, but not actually done yet, so I attempted to (starting with their history) but User:Shambala108 told me to discuss it here first. My version was reverted, so you can see it here now. I'm sorry for causing trouble if I did. I think that the Mondas and Cybus distinction can be kept in separate articles, but they should now be purely "historical" origin articles, e.g. "Origin of Cybermen on Mondas" and "Origin of Cybermen on Pete's World".

I think it's better than debating ad infinitum which "main" article the Moffat-era Cybermen (and probably any future Cybermen) belong to, as they share characteristics of both previous versions and so will likely any future ones, so we'll end up with basically three different articles, with "Cybermen of unknown origin" section of the Cyberman article growing with every episode. I think having one "main" article and two "origin" articles is less messy.