Howling:NOT the ninth doctor???

Has anyone put forward the idea that the Doctor who steped out of the Tardis in "Rose", is really the FIRST Doctor, and not the "ninth"? Has anyone established that the Doctor we first saw in 1963 was really the "first"? Making 10 really #2, 11, #3 etc. Might explain River's ongoing joke / brush off, "Maybe when you're older..."

The Tenth Doctor already knew Sarah Jane and Davros, the Eleventh Doctor called himself the Eleventh Doctor, the Fifth Doctor said he was in his fourth regeneration, the recap in The Next Doctor showed all 11 Doctors, the Timelords called the First, Second, and Third Doctors the First, Second and Third Doctors in the Three Doctors, there are numerous references to past episodes in the new series, there are no references to new series episodes in the classic series. River's ongoing joke means that she has met the Doctor later in his life, when he is older. She never met the First Doctor and was never in the classic series.Icecreamdif 04:11, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

All you need is this quote from The Five Doctors:

"As it happens, I am the Doctor. The original, you might say!"

- The First Doctor Skittles the hog-- Talk 21:56, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

All that proves is that William Hartnell played the First Doctor. We never actually saw Patrick Troughton, or Paul Mcgann's Doctor's regenerate, so what if Christopher Eccleston is actually the Third Doctor. My theory is that the Timelords erased Jamie and Zoe's memories, returned them to their own time, and then forced the 2nd Doctor to regenerate into Christopher Eccleston. They were going to exile the Eccleston Doctor to 20th century Earth, but they were inturrupted by a Dalek invasion that began the Time War. The Eccleston Doctor fought in the Time War, and eventually destroyed Gallifrey. All of the new series episodes take place in what is known as Season 6B. Eventually, in a future Matt Smith episode, the Timelords will return. The Timelords will still be mad that the Doctor destroyed them in the Timewar, so they will force him to regenerate into Jon Pertwee, and will exile him to 20th century Earth.69.140.32.138 02:39, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

What about the Tenth Doctor remembering the Fifth Doctor in Time Crash? Or the Ninth Doctor's involvement in the Kingmaker, based on his memory of events? Or the Time War foreshadowing in Series 3 of Gallifrey? Or the numerous occasions in the new series where we've had a run through of all the Doctors? Or the Fifth Doctor refering to himself as the fourth regeneration (in the Five Doctors), and the Eleventh Doctor calling himself the eleventh (The Lodger). Or the new series Doctors referencing and remembering events that happened to Doctors 3 through 8? I don't think any amount of retconning can accomodate your absurd theory. TemporalSpleen 16:36, March 24, 2011 (UTC)