User talk:Toughpigs

A bit late but better late than never :) Dark Lord Xander 03:19, 10 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Aw, thanks! I appreciate it. -- Danny (talk ) 05:21, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for stopping by
I browsed through the Muppet Wiki site "researching" ways to make this Wiki better. among other things I came across some great screencaps from The Storyteller, one of the best tv shows ever.

it might interest you to know that main character of This Town Will Never Let Us Go, from the Faction Paradox Who spin-off book series has an obsession with Muppets.

--***Stardizzy*** 22:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh, I haven't read any Faction Paradox books yet. I love Lawrence Miles -- I've been reading the About Time books recently -- but I haven't looked at the FP books.


 * By the way, did you see that we have a Doctor Who page? I was very excited when the 10th Doctor mentioned The Muppet Movie in "Tooth and Claw"... -- Danny (talk ) 01:30, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I actually didn't know about that page. thank you for bringing it up. --***Stardizzy*** 03:37, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Mediawiki Welcomes
Some things like including a template, when it was added to the user's page it added all the code, rather than just the template. I did try a few different ways of doing this, created special specific templates for the mediawiki welcomes, but it still translated to all code when applied to the user's user page, rather than just the template.

I appreciate the adding automatically function, but not all the people who add the welcome templates are admins, and there are several active members of this community that can often assist new users (just as easily) who aren't admins. Also, the welcomes to unregistered users, many IP users come and change just a few things and not sure if they want to be burdened or care about joining (okay I understand the argument about providing them with the info that will make them want to join), but often it seems not. --Tangerineduel 14:09, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, I'm trying to figure out what the problem was with templates... You should just be able to copy and paste all the code into MediaWiki:Welcome-message-user, and it'll show up in the welcome. You don't need to create a special template for it. I'll play around and see if I can figure out what happened.


 * If you want, you can assign a particular person to sign the welcomes, or put several people on. The most important thing is that people feel appreciated for their contribution, and connected to somebody who can help them out. I've seen a lot of IP users signing up on various wikis because they've gotten a welcome while they're still on the site. Not everyone will want to, obviously, but there are lots of people who just don't know that they can.


 * I'll look into the template thing; let me know what you think... -- Danny (talk ) 23:38, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay -- I tested it out, and it seems like it works fine... I signed in as a test user, made an edit, and I got a welcome using the Doctor Who template -- User talk:Dannytest14. Am I missing something? -- Danny (talk ) 23:46, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * My issue wasn't really with it 'working' it was with the neatness and simplicity with which it functioned. Currently when we place a welcome note on a new user's talk page all they get is: . With the mediawiki welcome implemented system you get 1300 or so worth of characters and all the associated wiki markup that makes it work. The reason I created the template and tried to implement it on the mediawiki welcome was to get rid of all the source stuff. It's all a bit messy and needless, plus I think a new user seeing all that on their talk page might be a little bit perturbed, welcomes should be short and simple, 1300 characters is a little bit daunting. --Tangerineduel 13:02, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You know what? You're completely right, and I didn't realize that was a problem. I'm really glad you pointed that out! I'm gonna go see what we can do about that -- I'll check back with you when I have a good answer. -- Danny (talk ) 01:32, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks, I kinda thought I was just adding my voice to the pot. The 36,000 edits thing, I hardly ever actually take note of that number. (Last time I looked and thought about it it was 34K)

As I said I'm all for helping new users, but those new users do (eventually) become regular users of the site, and some things are learnt by doing, not by having several helping hands along the way.

I learnt this stuff through doing, making mistakes and working it out from how one thing leads to another, my worry is that having all these assists for new users in place prevents some of the learning of the wiki/system through which all this operates occuring. I know there's a balance to be sought between making it super-easy for people to jump in and edit and allowing for more complicated things to be done. Just seems a lot of the new user stuff often seems to ignore the complicated things.

I seem to have gone from thanking you to making a critical commentary of things...I should work on that. --Tangerineduel 14:58, February 15, 2010 (UTC)