Talk:Toclafane

Source for "Based on V.I.N.C.E.N.T."?
These buggers look nothing like VINCENT. Yeah, they hover around like VINCENT and are round, but VINCENT has more of a distinctive form. If anything, the Toclafane resemble the IT-0 Interrogator droid. What's the source for this VINCENT-based design? VINCENT looks nothing like those glorified Voit basketballs.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 19:12, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Source request
"To survive, the Human race evolved into the Toclafane, their final evolution." The sentence implies that ALL humans in the universe at that time were on the ship towards Utopia and thus all became Toclafane. Doesn't seem to be consistent since the Doctor mentions humans being all over the universe many times (albeit he has never been to the year one hundred trillion, but seems possible other "rogue planets" exist). Also, on the wiki Human, the quote: "the last known Humans" implies that there is no conclusive information confirming all humans at that time have become Toclafane.

So could the author of the article or any other expert of the whoniverse cite the source for the claim "the Human race evolved into the Toclafane?" Thanks! 174.31.192.103 10:28, July 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) We believe apes evolved into humans, but apes (at least certain breeds of apes) still exist.

Human race evoving into the Toclafane doesn't necessarily imply that no humanoid humans can exist. Moreover, the word "evolved" used here is not in the sense of a biological evolution as this is a technological advancement. You are free to clarify the wordings, but the current information is not incorrect to the best of our knowledge. --203.168.176.42 15:48, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) The Series explicitly state that these were the last planets, and they were the last known humans. Until new humans are discovered in that time period, this is what we know.

Title?
Honestly, if this was Wikipedia then I wouldn't care, but here I do care about the title. Toclafane? Honestly? That's just a name the Master made up. Like the Bogeyman. I am requesting a name change to possibly: Human (Far Future). BroadcastCorp. 08:40, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * I disagree, but I do see where you are coming from. The Master gave them the name "Toclafane" becuase he essentially created them. He sent them to "Utopia" where they died and advanced/changed/upgrade etc into the metal spheres. Which were unnamed. Upon his arrival on Earth and the announcement that the Human Race would meet them, he called them the Toclafane, that's why they are called that.


 * The Master just made up the name, like the Doctor said. But is the Doctor not a made up name, is the master not one? They made up their own names. So we change them? No because that's the name we are given in a canon source MM/ Want to talk? 16:33, July 24, 2011 (UTC)