Talk:Skaro

Geography
Could someone please cite the specific episode of The Daleks where the geography of Skaro is limited to one single continent divided into two halves? I can't seem to find it at the moment.  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍ 22:10, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I have looked through both my source books and a few of my early dalek serials but havn't been able to find it not that that means it hasn't been said somewhere through Dark Lord Xander 08:22, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I suppose the question really is whether it appears in The Daleks, specifically. If not, the line needs to be cut from the article. I can't recall it. And my examination of the first three episodes didn't reveal it. But it's one of those little details that sometimes defies fast forwarding. I'm thinking it might be in episode 5, which is a little wonky on my DVD. Can anyone confirm?  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍ 11:22, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * In one of the I, Davros audios I'm relatively sure it's stated (I can't say which one as I've only listened to them once and still vague on the finer details). As for the Daleks I'll have to grab my DVD at some point and give it another watch. --Tangerineduel 15:48, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I just watched The Daleks, and nothing about continents sprang to mind. Most of the stuff about geography in that serial was about the deadly lake and the petrified forest. Should we remove it? -- Tybort (talk page) 21:42, September 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Rewatched the serial. Still don't recall anything about Skaro having one continent appearing in there, so I removed it. -- -- Tybort (talk page) 18:35, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Location
Not sure if this is worth mentioning, but the infobox has the location of Skaro as one trillion miles away from Earth (not sure of the source for this), which puts it...well within the Oort Cloud of our own Solar System. Just sayin.

Comment on the above: The Dalek Book of 1964 actually has the Daleks navigating Skaro into our Solar System. In fact, planet-moving technology seems to be a constant with the Daleks, as they were also planning to move the Earth during the 22nd-century Dalek Invasion of Earth. And then of course, there's "The Stolen Earth". So Skaro could have been within the Oort Cloud at some time. But does the name Skaro refer to a single planet, or just a current Dalek headquarters or homeworld (Skaro means "home")?

Skaro's destruction from Daleks in Manhattan
I recall the Daleks saying that their planet was destroyed in "a war" in Daleks in Manhattan, but did they specify which war? Even if it was the writer's intent it was the Time War, from what I remember the dialogue as-phrased could easily have referred to the Imperial-Renegade war and the Hand of Omega. -- Tybort (talk page) 21:42, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but the point is that it was destroyed, as of the line of Daleks that survived until Victory. Well, to be fair, the exact line is:
 * "My planet is gone, destroyed in a great war."

So we've got even less wiggle room than we'd have with just the word "destroyed". It's not just destroyed: it's actually gone. And we can trace this Dalek directly through to Victory of the Daleks and the Moffat era. Literally Skaro just "comes back" in City of the Daleks, and then is shown in Asylum, but with zero explanation. So there's clear narrative discontinuity. Doesn't matter which war destroyed Skaro, in a sense. It was destroyed, and then it wasn't, but you can trace a direct narrative line from the one who said it was destroyed to the stories where Skaro is suddenly not destroyed. 04:51: Tue 07 May 2013
 * To be fair, it was never established that the Doctor was visiting a present-day Skaro in Asylum Of The Daleks. He may have simply come to it at an earlier point in its history, prior to its destruction. Ensephylon ☎  08:17, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Skaro outside our Galaxy?
Is there any in-Universe source confirming that? Or just that we don't know such a planet in our Galaxy and therefore assume it? Our Galaxy IRL and in DW can be different (It is not called "Mutter's Spiral" IRL) Movsar talk to me 12:06, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

In David Whitaker's novel "Dr Who in an Exciting Adventure with the Daleks", published in 1964, Skaro is described as being "in the next universe but one". On the face of it, this sounds nonsensical until you remember that in the early 1960s, the word "galaxy" was not yet an everyday expression. At the time, most astronomers still referred to them as "island universes". So we can assume that this means the next galaxy but one. But while I can accept interstellar travel, intergalactic travel seems to be a bit of a stretch, especially when you consider that our own galaxy contains 100 billion star systems. Even if we had instantaneous interstellar travel, it would take millions of years to explore all that, so the intergalactic stage seems too big to be credible. The best solution seems to be a satellite galaxy of the Milky Way, of which 27 are currently known. But in 1964, only two were known, the Large and Small Magellanic clouds, with the Large one as the next galaxy but one. There are 2 reasons in-Universe to think that this is the correct solution: "The Dalek Book" (1966) shows an early dalek interstellar cruiser referred to as a "Megallanic" Cloud Cruiser ("Megallanic" is an obvious error for Magellanic). Even more convincing is the fact that the Dals/Kaleds (I consider the Kaleds to be a warlike politico-religious party within the Dal nation: think Germans/Nazis) believed that there were only seven galaxies (Genesis of the Daleks, Part Two: Ronson: "It is an established scientific fact that in the seven galaxies only Skaro is capable of supporting intelligent life"). Astronomically, this is very difficult to rationalise. The only explanation would be that seven nearby galaxies were visible in Skaro's skies, whilw more distant galaxies were assumed to be something else. On Earth, distant galaxies were thought to be " spiral nebulae", or coalescing star systems, until the early 20th century. So, if there is anywhere in the Large Magellanic Cloud where our galaxy and six of its satellite galaxies are visible, that is where I would put Skaro.

Fan opinion
The part about the fans' reaction to Antalin and War of the Daleks. Does that violate the "real world" part of T:NPOV? -- Tybort (talk page) 01:26, February 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * It violates a lot of things. It's unsourced; it violates T:NPOV; it's just a statement that, for all we know, could be blatantly false. It doesn't define how many fans or state when this blanket opinion was tested - back in 1997 when the book was published? Yesterday?


 * This kind of thing needs to be removed whenever we find it. If it's a poll in DWM, for example, it's sourced; it's fine. But "most fans think..." is not at all encyclopedic. Shambala108 ☎  03:36, February 19, 2014 (UTC)