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Kate's parentage is confirmed by Downtime anyway, the only reason we're discussing her is because of Clonemarshalcommandercody trying and failing to make a point.

Back to the topic of Missy. To bring back the Pandorica argument from earlier in the thread, at the conclusion of The Pandorica Opens we could not know the full extent of what the Pandorica was, which was later revealed in The Big Bang. The same applies here, as all we know of Missy after Dark Water is that she is, or claims to be, an incarnation of the Master. Death in Heaven cleared this up by clarifying she was post-Simm.