User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-1272640-20161223201024/@comment-1272640-20170114062902

OttselSpy25 wrote: As far as I see it, we have two options here. We either,

1) Agree an out-of-universe explanation for why it's invalid, as per most other stories we call invalid

or

B) no, 2) We make it semi-valid -- an odd technicality of an unclear incarnation (since he never says what regeneration he's in) -- who isn't invalid but who is obscure enough to be mainly ignored by editors (see: every weird one-off PROSE or COMIC Doctor incarnation). I prefer 2, myself. From an in-universe perspective, all we know is that he's after Eight, as he recalls "all nine of him" being painted by Warhol (which could mean Nine as in Hartnell through Hurt or Eccleston if we don't count War). From the line about nine lives, it doesn't make any sense no matter how you interpret it, as a regeneration cycle is thirteen lives. If we're gonna keep Man with the Rosette separate from the Master due to no in-universe evidence (despite authorial intent), we should do the same here.