User talk:PicassoAndPringles

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Vandalism edit
Hi! I appreciate your reverting of vandalism at Mickey Smith, but I do have a request. If you have to do so again, all you have to do is leave an edit summary stating that you are reverting vandalism (as you did on the Mickey Smith page). There is no need to leave a message on the offender's talk page for two important reasons: 1. it draws more attention to the vandalism, and 2. anonymous users don't get notifications when their talk pages are edited, so the offender will most likely never get your message.

Thanks for your help! Shambala108 ☎  03:19, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't know. I will avoid it in the future.PicassoAndPringles ☎  03:30, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Tele-snap of Camfield's Fairy Milk Chocolate
Hi PicassoAndPringles,

Just thought I'd drop you a line to thank you for adding to Camfield's Fairy Milk Chocolate the tele-snap of the chocolate bar being removed from the platform vending machine by Driver Evans.

I very much appreciate your help and efforts in tracking down this elusive tele-snap which — until now — could only be seen on the DVD.

Who knows, perhaps one day we'll see a bar of Camfield's Fairy Milk Chocolate (which I personally consider to be the Doctor Who universe's equivalent of the real-life Cadbury's Dairy Milk) again, this time in the new series... Freddie R. Aldous ☎  11:11, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

Spam in forums
Hi! Thanks for removing the spam in the forums, but in the future, if you do so, please let an admin know so the original poster can be blocked. Thanks. Shambala108 ☎  14:15, August 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Gotcha, though I certainly didn't get any notifications. Must be a flaw in the system. Shambala108 ☎  16:05, August 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Got it, thanks, I've blocked this particular name and removed the thread, which for some reason wasn't removed before. Shambala108 ☎  17:36, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

Hidden Categories
I'm sorry. I didn't know about hidden categories I'll restore them. Slughorn42 ☎  22:28, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

New Pages
Thanks for contacting me. I'll be sure to make sure I only create new pages I have all the info to. TheAnonJade

Re: Spam
Looks like someone already caught it but thanks for letting me know. Shambala108 ☎  14:11, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

RE:
Ok, I'm just use to other wiki's that just say replace the file so there isn't pictures overloading the server. 01:17, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Screenshots sought
Hi PiccassoAndPringles,

I'm looking for screenshots to illustrate two pages I recently created for TARDIS Data Core: Imperial and Phil Madison.

As you very kindly supplied the tele-snap for another of my created pages, Camfield's Fairy Milk Chocolate, and having heard you have quite the collection where screenshots etc. are concerned, do you happen to have images of:
 * the 100 Imperials coin flipped by Adric in Warriors' Gate,
 * and


 * the robotised Phil Madison, as played by Peter Badger in The Dalek Invasion of Earth?

If so, please feel free to add these to the respective pages next time you're on TARDIS Data Core. This would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks. -- Freddie R. Aldous ☎  11:14, September 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Screenshots sought
Hi PicassoAndPringles,

Just thought I'd drop you a line to thank you for adding the image to Phil Madison; the page looks much better now.

With regard to Imperial, don't worry about the low quality image of the 100 Imperials coin, as this is better than nothing. Thanks also for putting me right about it being Aldo who flipped this particular piece of currency in Warriors' Gate part one. It just goes to show how long it's been since I watched the story! :-) Anyway, I've now revised the page accordingly and added the image of the coin.

Once again, thank you for all your help.

Freddie R. Aldous ☎  12:12, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

Good morning, I see you've cleared out a lot of the less interesting chapter title entries I've made recently in the Target books and Virgin New Adventures entries. I was going for a consistency between entries in having a chapter titles section, but I can see where that's not necessarily ^helpful^ on my part, just a little OCD.

Have a good day, Soundacious ☎  10:35, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Infoboxes
I'm doing some work on another wiki and was admiring your infoboxes. Is there any advice or templates you can suggest for me to try to emulate your impressive infoboxes?

Leaving messages on other users' talk pages
Hi! I'm not sure exactly how to put this, but you need to moderate your tone when you leave messages on other users' talk pages. I haven't really felt it necessary to say anything until tonight, when you left a message at User talk:BananaClownMan about Tardis:Spoiler policy. To the uninitiated user, you come off sounding like an admin. There was no need for you to mention that he's been warned before; all that is necessary is to point the user to the policy page(s) in question, and if there is a problem, then let an admin know so they can deal with it.

Please, when leaving a message on other users' talk pages, refrain from using words like "warning", "enforce", or anything else that implies you have the ability to enforce policy on this wiki. For new users, it's not always obvious who is and who isn't an admin. Thanks. Shambala108 ☎  06:52, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

BF Production Codes
Hi! My sources for the majority of the varied production codes I have added are form the actual physical releases themselves, and I can advise you that the production code listed on Big Finish's website for the release you mention is, as admitted by the company themself, a mistake (one of many, as the information on releases found there is riddled with errors). However, all releases from January 2013 onwards are given no placement code on the release or website, but through contact with producers and authors the detailed production codes are given. Note that numerous releases since have no production code (the Locum Doctors trilogy, Trial of the Valeyard, various box sets and special releases), as Big Finish has now ceased making evident any confirmed placement. RogerAckroydLives ☎  09:13, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

Death in Heaven
Hello PicassoAndPringles, Why did you delete my added information in Death In Heaven? It read: "Missy is revealed to have been The Master, a man, in her last incarnation something The Doctor has said happens on occasion when he spoke of The Timelord The Corsair who came back as a woman "a couple of times." (TV: The Doctor's Wife)" This is accurate information and also shows the continuity of the show. If you watch The Doctor's Wife you will hear the doctor make the statement that The Corsair was a fantastic bloke who never felt quite himself, or herself a couple of times, until he got his tattoo of a snake. These lines are said right at the start of the show when The Doctor receives "mail" in the form of a glowing white box. Please tell me what your problem is with this accurate information. Thank you. BungBunger ☎  05:00, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Titan Back-up Comics
Hey, I just wanted to tell you that we are currently sending down a final vote on the Titan back-up comics down at Thread:177099. You seemed to have a pretty strong opinion on the issue, so I just wanted to make sure that you knew that the vote was happening. The polls currently tally to three votes for the back-up strips being valid and five for them being invalid. All votes have gone towards making the WeLoveTITANS comics invalid. If you want a say in the matter, there is a week and three days left on voting. Sorry for the bother! OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 21:27, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Timeline
Thanks for the links. I will get back to this issue after studying them. By the way, I completely agree that stating that "A Doctor's Tale" follows "An Unearthly Child" is silly. In some cases, Big Finish states the timeline placement explicitly in the "Behind the Scenes" tab, which might help avoid speculation. Another note before I have information policy-wise: in "A Doctor's Tale" the events of the crusade are not only mentioned but used for plot development. Ian is accepted as equal by the nobility and clergy because he is knighted: he is Sir Ian of Jaffa. This happened in "The Crusade," which is why, in my mind, it is important. Anyway, let me read up first.Amorkuz ☎  15:28, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, so my first impression is that my edits did not, in fact, violate the old decision sited in Forum:Timeline sections on pages. It has been decided that If the story's timeline is actually certain enough and noteworthy enough, then mention of it will be made in the lead or story notes section. And there were pages with such information in the lead section, e.g., Blood of the Daleks.

I was also always mentioning timeline information in the lead section. I will be happy to additionally provide the reasoning behind it as was requested by some participants in that forum. I'll have to think how to do it in a spoiler-free way though. But if Voord is in the title of the story, I guess it is not really a spoiler to mention a previous encounter with them.

What do you think? Should I go ahead and reinstate important cases or should we open a new discussion? In the latter case, perhaps, you could start it as you are have more experience with the forum and it would be easier for you to involve the right people.Amorkuz ☎  18:00, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

Hmm... Not sure how you leave replies rather than another paragraph. But anyways... It appears that we essentially agree on the principle of things. In fact, what you described as reasonable leads was exactly along the lines of what I had in mind as "reasoning behind" I mentioned above. I suspect that where we might differ is in the definition of "noteworthy" ("certainty" is quite clear I think: as in not based on speculation but on actual quotes). I half suspect that you might have been spooked by my placement of The Bounty of Ceres after The Time Meddler, which appears to be a trivial placement after the first Steven's serial. But even that is plot related: the reason the TARDIS crew had to leave the ship in The Bounty of Ceres and could not return to it until the very end is the Doctor's experiments with the Relative Dimensional Stabiliser that he pilfered from the Monk's TARDIS.

There were also examples of trivial placements among the ones you've deleted: all 2nd Doctor's Early Adventures are completely nondescript in this respect (so far). Here I completely agree with you: there is no point having them if it has been decided that such information should be useful rather than complete. Another example of placement I am not planning to restore is a throwaway mention of Marco Polo in The Alchemists.

As I was saying, I'm adding information that I would have found useful myself in determining what to listen to next. That is my definition of "noteworthy." Given that I am far from the being the most devoted fan, I suspect that there are other people like me out there, who prefer to watch the relevant classic episodes before listening to a Big Finish story. Or, more importantly and less obviously, listen to the relevant stories from other ranges.

I hope that the second version of my edits will be more obviously useful. Congrats on the admin nomination, by the way.

IV Magda vs. 1V Magda
Hey P&P! Just wanted to make a quick enquiry about some of your recent(ish) edits. I noted a whole back that you fixed a link on 7's page from "Magda" to the more accurate 1V Magda. However, I later spotted the fact that the page for The Prisoner's Dilemma credits the character as IV Magda. Given the fact that the sum total of references on this wiki to the roguish Zinc's wife is three, and that I have not listened to Dilemma for quite a while, I thought I'd ask here to see if my dilemma could be simply solved.

Thanks! RogerAckroydLives ☎  08:02, November 11, 2015 (UTC)

Speedy rename
Hi! Please make sure, when you move a page tagged with "speedy rename", that you change the links first. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎  04:54, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

Bang-Bang-a-Boom!
Thanks a lot for that page move. A good day's work now paid off. Now, for Thicker Than Water... RogerAckroydLives ☎  13:52, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

Exact release dates
I've noticed you have removed an erroneous release day of the month on The Yes Men (audio story). Some of the audio releases have both month and day (especially the recent ones), while others only have the month. I was wondering what is preferable? Put another way, are days of month missing as a matter of policy or because this information is not immediately available on the release page? Amorkuz ☎  15:59, November 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * Got it, thanks. The news page is where I was getting this information too. I will then stop adding this information to the Companion Chronicles releases. Amorkuz ☎  16:50, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

2029
Much obliged! --GusF ☎  20:41, December 9, 2015 (UTC)

In/Out Universe
Thanks for explaining. And sorry that I will have to continue relying on your (and other admins') divine interventions. Finding relevant excerpts of the policy is, unfortunately, simply not an efficient use of time. I made an experiment and, after you started deleting images, tried to find the relevant policy based on your comments: 30 minutes knowing what I was searching for. When I don't know the policy exists in advance, I can spend hours trying to find it instead of wikifying.

Regarding what needs to be done, I can give you the facts on the ground and hope that you could tell me if there is a policy for such cases. Your suspicions were correct about the Weltausstellung 1873 Wien (in a way, it's a happy coincidence that we started discussing this topic and can now fix the less obvious errors). This name, which is the correct English name according to Wikipedia, is never used in the audio. Unfortunately, neither is its English translation, "World Exposition 1873 Vienna." Even the generic terms used for the series of these event, which are "World's fair," "world fair," "world exposition" or "universal exposition" are not used (incidentally, I know at least one other audio about another of these world fairs, Other Lives. The term most commonly used in the audio is "Vienna Exposition." I'm guessing this might be the correct article name. (And I have since learned how to make a Wikipedia infobox with a name different from the name of the article.)

But this is not the only thing that may need to be changed now that we're talking. Vienna Ring Road is invariably called by its German name "Ringstraße" in the audio.

And while we're discussing names, I was using Wikipedia names as guidelines. So the "Vienna" part of Stephansplatz, Vienna is there because of Wikipedia. Now, this is not, strictly speaking, out-of-universe: they call it "Stephansplatz" and they acknowledge that they are in Vienna. But if Wikipedia names are not relevant even for historical real-world phenomena according to the policy, as I you may well tell me, then perhaps "Stephansplatz" would be a more reasonable name. (I believe the rational in Wikipedia is that there is a square with the same name in another city (Hamburg?), which is not (yet) relevant in-universe. On the other hand, maybe keeping "Vienna" is good for future proofing.) Amorkuz ☎  22:38, December 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * No, there are no others: I checked all the pages I've created and will try to implement the in-universe perspective in the pages I will create from now on. Two more things:


 * Full disclosure for "Ringstraße," which may affect the naming. This is the correct Austrian German spelling. However, there is an alternative spelling that only uses letter present in English, "Ringstrasse." The connection between "ß" and "ss" is quite strong (stronger even than between "ö" and "oe"): 1) the only correct capitalized version of the word is "RINGSTRASSE" in all variants of German because the letter ß does not have an uppercase version; 2) there are variants of German where ß is not used: for instance, in Swiss German, this would be written "Ringstrasse." But all the action in the audio happens in Austria (even the references to Villa Diodati don't change this as that is in the French-speaking part of Switzerland). Unfortunately, there is no written material from the producer to guide us, at least not available to me.


 * While you're spending your time on me anyway, I'd allow myself to ask about the name I will soon create. There is another character similar to Count Larisch (soon to be renamed to Larisch thanks to the help from Skittles the Hog), i.e., not present in the play but mentioned by name, Dieter Wallmann (he is another patron of Stahlbaum and the first "eyeless murder on Ringstraße"). My problem with him is that it is not clear what the correct spelling of his last name is: it could be Walman or Walmann. I did some Google search and Wallmann seems more prevalent, but this is not sourced in-universe. What is the procedure in such cases? Which name should I use? Amorkuz ☎  09:39, December 14, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for moving pages and changing links. I'm still not losing hope of finding someone with a script. I was a little slow on this as I needed to figure out how to go about it. But now I've posted on Refdesk. Let's see if there are any takers. So I will wait with the Walman page.


 * I did, however, find a marvelous site that details the contents of the CD packing, which allows me to add the missing cast information. The reason I mention this is, actually, not to boast. The packing features some additional illustrations, including a pencil drawing of a Cyberman. So my question is: are CD package contents considered in-universe or out-of-universe? Amorkuz ☎  21:55, December 15, 2015 (UTC)