User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-1272640-20170106043421/@comment-188432-20170131022633

I reject Nate's assertion that this situation isn't like Death's Head. It's precisely the same. Death's Head came from The Transformers and went into the (UK) Marvel Universe via the DWU. And we don't consider either The Transformers or the Fantastic Four a part of what we cover.

The simplest way forward here is the one we've been using: start with Old Flames as the first appearance in the DWU.

A behind-the-scenes note at Iris Wildthyme, explaining that the name originated in Marked for Life, is totally fine. The same approach can be used for any other character names that started in that trilogy, but later were seen in Doctor Who-branded works.

But any characters who only appeared in the Phoenix Court trilogy don't belong here, any more than some full-throated article about Optimus Prime or Reed Richards.