Talk:Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS (TV story)

Set entirely within the TARDIS
"This is the first full episode in the BBC Wales version of the show to be set entirely within the Doctor's TARDIS, although several mini-episodes have been as well." what about amy's choice?
 * Please sign your posts. Amy's Choice was set partially in the TARDIS, and partially in Upper Leadworth (both being dreams, of course). --SOTO ☎ 04:17, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * More than that, this story wasn't set entirely in the TARDIS - primarily so, of course, but several scenes were set on the Van Baalens' spaceship. 210.1.215.90talk to me 04:30, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well... if we went by that, then nothing would be set entirely in the TARDIS. Are we going to discount The Edge of Destruction simply because they walked out of the TARDIS for a few seconds at the end? Of course not! There's just approx. 4 and a half minutes of footage outside of the TARDIS in Journey, so I consider it to be entirely set within the TARDIS. --SOTO ☎ 05:52, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * There's a massive difference between the end of The Edge of Destruction and the fact that this episode clearly has scenes set outside the TARDIS.  Tardis1963   talk  08:10, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Then why don't we rename the category to something like, "stories set primarily in the TARDIS" or "stories set largely in the TARDIS". "Entirely" is such an absolute term, and there are bound to be exceptions, so why not give it a little wiggle room? Memnarc ☎  04:17, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * I was thinking that earlier, but haven't had the time to bring it up. Also, somehow Amy's Choice ended up in Category:Stories set entirely in the TARDIS; how? --SOTO ☎ 04:20, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

People who know The Doctor's name
I specified that River was the first of the Doctor's companions to learn his name, not the first person. Drax knows it, as likely do many other Time Lords, up to and including The Master. Vbartilucci ☎  20:07, April 28, 2013 (UTC)vbartilucci

Cast list
The credited actors for the time zombies aren't mentioned, though I'm not sure if it should be put up exactly as in the credits,


 * Time Zombie - Sarah Louise Madison
 * Time Zombie - Ruari Mears
 * Time Zombie - Paul Kasey

Or the more streamlined


 * Time Zombies - Sarah Louise Madison, Ruari Mears, Paul Kasey

Which seems more "proper"? -- Tybort (talk page) 07:45, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, first of all, what's our source for the actors in the first place? From the credits? If so, then we should put it exactly as in the credits, although, if the first option, the last two should be de-wikified. --SOTO ☎ 22:39, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Telescope from Tooth and Claw
I don't have Tooth and Claw on hand right now, but is it really supposed to be the telescope from that episode or just any big observatory? The telescope in that episode isn't even a functioning one, it was just a weapon to kill the werewolf. -- Tybort (talk page) 16:43, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * I was the one filling that note (sorry, no username, I think I'll register soon).
 * I did compare them, because that shape really remembered me that episode.
 * They differ a bit (the tube from Tooth and Claw is a bit bigger on the top, and smaller on the bottom, the half-moon figure is reversed), but globally, the resemblance is impressive.
 * It can't be from any observatory, as many details (the half moon, the wheels, the overall shape) are too much unique.
 * It's probably just a copy the Doctor made, anyway, not the original (which would account for the small differences) --93.50.83.19talk to me 18:18, April 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * It may have been the same cgi/model used in the production as the Tooth and Claw telescope, but that does not mean it is meant to be the same in universe. Geek Mythology ☎  18:20, April 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm with you. The art direction team probably repurposed the telescope but it's a leap to say it's the same telescope in the TARDIS as existed in Tooth and Claw. This implies that The Doctor removed it from its location and installed it in the TARDIS. Given the age of the TARDIS, it's more likely that the observatory has been there for hundreds, if not thousands of years and is not a recent invention. 63.143.218.107talk to me 19:21, April 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * The Tenth Doctor admired the telescope so, he may have went to the end of the Torchwood Estate, whenever that will be, to purchase it, but why do so when he has the Architectural Reconfiguration System and can just make a new one just like it? In any case, I'd say two things: 1) it belongs in Continuity, not References (so I moved it) and 2) we can't say it's exactly the same. --ComicBookGoddess ☎  04:45, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Plot
Why is the plot section so.. meager? I can extend it if no one else's doing it. Puchplimmirdeyslithin ☎  19:43, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Production Error?
I don't think the bullet in the production error section belongs. It is not a production error. Who knows what the metal was or how the sonic screw driver put the message on there? It was, after all, the letters that burned her hand, not the device itself. I am going to remove that bullet and put "to be added." It may be a plot hole or a good discussion on the sonic screw driver, but it is not a production error. Whosethebestwho ☎  04:59, April 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * Regardless of the type of metal, it is clear when they show the letters that they are etched - there is a edge depression at the top of the "BIG" and the light source shows the edgeing. That means that it's an etching, with the metal taken away. The letters, being empty spaces and not raised pieces of metal, never come into contact with the skin to burn them. --ComicBookGoddess ☎  06:30, April 29, 2013 (UTC)




 * But it is the letters themselves that burned the skin, NOT the metal casing, so it is not a production error. Could it be a plot hole?  Possibly.  Bad physics?  Maybe.  However it is not a mistake.  Clearly the letters on the casing were intended to burn her hand and the did.  That is not a production error. Whosethebestwho  ☎  07:47, April 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * It is an error because the clear absence of letter cannot transfer heat. Kindly refrain from reverting that edit again until others have the chance to weigh in. I'm not conceding the point, and I'd rather not keep recomposing it. --ComicBookGoddess ☎  07:59, April 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * I am going to remove it because it is NOT a production error. I am not sure how many times you want me to say that.  It simply does not belong in that section, period.  I am going to elevate the issue to prevent an edit war.  Whosethebestwho  ☎  08:04, April 29, 2013 (UTC)