User talk:Sichamousacoricothingmabob/Human Time Lords

New recruits
All who wish to be new recruits to the order should request to be added here. 16:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Discussions on Purpose
According to te article on Time Lords:


 * The Time Lords and Time Ladies (sometimes called "Lords of Time" or, rarely, "Chronarchs") were the oligarchic rulers of the planet Gallifrey. They possessed the power and technology to travel through both time and space in their TARDISes.

Now what part of that refers to us?

Yes, I know the New Time Lord Order may one day be a major grouping of the TARDIS crew, but for now we're very little. And even if one day we do control (some of) it, so what? And as for advanced technology, I don't have a TARDIS, you claim yours has broken down, and TARDISes themselves are nearly extinct, so unless you can create more Tardis-coral... However, there is a third reason - to remake the Time Lords, a powerful group nonetheless. But apart from that... there isn't really much purpose of the H.T.Ls at the moment. 16:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

What's the point?
Ultimately, what's the point in this? Yes, I know it'd be a good idea to create a new order of Time Lords, yet there are a few points about it:
 * First of all, the Time Lords were the ruling class of Gallifrey. As far as I'm aware, the Human Time Lords aren't currently ruling anything.
 * Second of all, the Time Lords had very advanced tech - TARDISes, stellar manipulators, interstellar travel, etc. The most advanced tech the Human Time Lords seem to have is computers. However, it should only be a few thousand years until Time Lord technolgy is within Humanity's metaphorical technological grasp, and I'm sure the Time Lords didn't have all their technology in their beginning.
 * Third of all, can I join? If there's a better point than just to restart the Time Lords from scratch, then I'd like to be part of the New Time Lord Triumvirate. If fact, regardless of whether or not there's another point, I'd still like to be part of it. 16:20, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Posted below is Si's reply on my talkpage:


 * "First of all, the Time Lords were the ruling class of Gallifrey. As far as I'm aware, the Human Time Lords aren't currently ruling anything."
 * Just wait. eventually this wikia will be called "the Human Time Lord Wikia".


 * "Second of all, the Time Lords had very advanced tech - TARDISes, stellar manipulators, interstellar travel, etc. The most advanced tech the Human Time Lords seem to have is computers. However, it should only be a few thousand years until Time Lord technolgy is within Humanity's metaphorical technological grasp, and I'm sure the Time Lords didn't have all their technology in their beginning."
 * How do u know i haven't got a TARDIS, and Joker1138 claims to have one.--Si 20:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

You asked what we are supposed to do. well i think the best thing to do currently is to find anyone else who'd like to train to become one. their are 3 easy steps 1.ask if they want to do it. 2.put their name on the members list on both the list on my page ant the h.t.l page (i read somewhere u have to get permission to edit other people's user page so to to let u know u've got permission to edit it by adding names) 3. ask them on their infobox the add the fact their a human time lord (training).

Also i fegot to tell u this but if ur a h.t.l u have permission to edit the h.t.l page (for the right reasons obviously) and to edit the h.t.l section on my page to put members name on. p.s renember to tell any users u invite to h.t.l this. thx---Si 20:56, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Now a (slightly more detailed than the one on my talkpage) reply of mine to the above:


 * Alright:
 * Perhaps... although because it isn't about Human Time Lords it should be "the Human Time Lords' Wikia".
 * Well where's mine then? I'm one now so I should have one!
 * Well, it's a start, but once we have enough Human Time Lords (say about six to ten) then what? Or will we decide when they've joined the order?
 * How does the training take place / work?
 * I've already edited some of it for grammar, so I hope you didn't mind.
 * 15:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I found my /tardis. but it's not working propely yet. wish it would coz i'm always late for stuff. it seems Joker1138 has already got one and using it. ask him. while ur at it tell him i've been waiting for a reply to my invitation i sent him.
 * Yeh i think 10 will be enough, although we won't stop their. yep. we will decide when they've joined the order.
 * I'll think about what the training will be. it should be ready when we have 10 time lords. --Si 20:13, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay then. If I have any more ideas I'll post them here, okay? 20:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Discussions on Training
Here we should have some discussions on training, and how it should take place and what should happen. Because currently, I have no idea how it should work. 16:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Discussions between members
This is the place to talk to other H.T.Ls about anythything that is to do with the order and is not part of any of the things above.--Si 12:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Discussions between heads
Heads are in Italics. This section is the same as above, but between heads. any messages or over things you'd like to tell the heads, can also be put here.--Si 12:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC) P.S when u start a new discussion put a sub-sub-titel as this "date-subject". --Si 12:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I've changed heads to another section of the members instead of being in italics for now, is that okay? 13:32, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

24.02.07-Promotion
Ghelæ would you like to be 2nd in command?--Si 12:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Fine by me. Thanks! 12:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Although if we have another leader, could you place me as the third, like Rassilon-Omega-Other? I don't like being, well, similar. 17:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

24.02.07-logo
I'm thinking of making a logo on paint. what desighn would u suggest? pehaps earth with some random squibbles on it or can u think of any better?--Si 12:54, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll see if I can make one in paint, using "my own" set of symbols. 13:33, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Here's my first test logo: 13:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think we should have the Tardis in their as it's the Doctor's Tardis. From reading the novilation of the claws of axos, when Axos captured the Master's Tardis, it was in the shape of a dome, is that the Tardis' default shape?--Si 14:05, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't know, according to the Gallifreyan Gardens article on this wiki, they naturally appear as a plain box, although that article isn't sourced and may just be fanon, so there's no way to check. 14:08, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * do i have permission to download that image and tweak it a bit?--Si 14:15, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, sure, but try to save it as HTL_test_logo_2.JPG or HTL_test_logo_1.2.JPG or something slightly different. Not that I'm really bothered, it's just a test image and I could always reupload it if I cared. 14:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Do u know where i could get some gallifreyan symbols as i think i'm nearley there.--Si 14:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The only symbol I can find on the net is the Seal of Rassilon, but give me a minute, I think there may be another symbol somewhere on a game on the BBC website. 15:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * No, nothing on the BBC website, they've taken the game off (it was one of the advent06 games). 15:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

What about these?--Si 14:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * They're a bit... busy. I'm personally starting to go off the Earth+symbols idea. Perhaps we should just do a version of the Seal of Rassilon? 14:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmmm......well if i'm the fouder then should i make a seal of Sichamousacoricothingmabob.--Si 14:04, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * And what would that look like? 14:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * This! I'm no sure about the backrouns couler though. what couler do u think I should use?[[Image:Seal of Sichamousacoricothingmabob.PNG|150px|right]]


 * Hm, I think the colour's okay, but it just looks a little messy. I'll try to make a neater version of it now. 19:10, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Go ahead!--Si 19:13, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Here it is, although I think it should a more symmetrical design like the original Seal of Rassilon myself, and personally I don't like the idea of the logo having the letters "I W", even though that is your Human pseudonym. 19:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

How about this: --Si 19:26, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, but this [[Image:Seal of Si 3.PNG|150px]] has a neater "S I", although the "S" isn't as clearly an "S", if this is chosen as the final logo it could easily be changed. 19:32, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I have to go now but how about this, it's basically both the 2 above merged, a cleaner "I" with my "SI" ontop. I'll have to reply tommorrow(or after as i have school) coz i got to go now, but their is that slight chance I might be able to come on before 9:00 GMT. see ya--Si 19:38, 25 February 2007 (UTC)




 * Bye! So, for now, I'll just have a few independant attempts of my own... 19:41, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

How about these? 19:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Though it's none of my business, the second one looks good. Azes13 20:10, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Well the 1st one is gallifreyan and the secind one well.....possibly. I'll sleep on it.--Si 21:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The second one, in case you didn't notice (even I'd have a hard time seeing it) is composed of a very anglular "H" underneath an angular "T" and an angular "L". 16:28, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I see. I think we'll have that as the logo then and then when we have more members we'll cast a vote =, what do you think?--Si 12:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

PS: Azes13 has decided to create a Sovereign Earth Reptile Empire!
 * I prefer the one that's currently at the bottom myself. 14:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * And as for the vote, yeah, okay. 15:24, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

24.02.07-Other Members vs Members
I don't really like the name "other members" because if i were just a member i wouldn't like to be classified as "other" something do you get where i comming from.--Si 14:35, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, I suppose, but until we have enough others we can't really group them as anything else. In theory, we could have scientific advisers, the outer and inner councils, etc, but not with only three official members. 14:42, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

25.02.07-template
I've just found a template on Wikipedia,. Do you think we should we each add it to our userpages on Wikipedia? 14:30, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll make a simular one that says human time lord instead. btw is there a shortcut to this wikia you know like to link to wikipedia you put page so is their one that libks other wikias to this?--Si 18:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think it's best to make a H.T.L infobox on Wikipedia, but if you must...
 * wikia:c:Tardis:Main Page for linking to this wiki's Main Page, for example.
 * 19:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

07.03.07-New members
some new members who are feinds from my school are goint to join. just to let u know.--Si 13:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay. But we shouldn't let it get too large. And we'd better make sure only people with usernames and who contribute to the wiki should currently be members. I think. 15:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

15.03.07-Us vs. Them
Isn't this...sort of creating an us vs them sort of thing within this wiki? (just to be clear I see myself in the them, rather than the us category). If this were anything and I had to take sides, I'd be hanging out in the Eleven Day Empire. --Tangerineduel 15:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, suppose. Not that we meant it to be a sort of war or whatever. (BLAME SI! IT WAS HIS IDEA!) Perhaps we should just make a wiki cat editthis.info or just... wage war upon the other factions? I dunno. Erm... Si, do you have any ideas? For that matter, where are you? 16:02, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I don't get what this argument is about. Ghelæ, from I gather, something about "factions", "Eleven Day Empire" ect. also can i call you Ghel as it takes me a while to copy æ from your signature to this talk page. oh nad i;m on my 2 weeks holiday so i will be able to post more now I don't have to do homework 24/7 after then it's gonna be a bit dodgey--Si 19:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * It's about the idea that it's creating, as Tangerineduel said, creating an "us vs them" idea - that is, Human Time Lords vs everyone else.
 * Tangerineduel's comment about "hanging out in the Eleven Day Empire" is a reference to the Eleven-Day Empire in the BBC Eighth Doctor Adventures, in which Faction Paradox of the empire were the enemies of the Time Lords, in which case the "us vs them" thing is the idea that it might inspire everybody on the wiki to "take sides", as Tangerineduel, yet again, put it. And then things could get a bit... messy, which is why I proposed creating a seperate wiki for most of the stuff.
 * Yeah, you can call me "Ghel". Or eveb "Ghelae". Or "Gh(a)e". Or... anything else, I suppose, that vaguely resembles it.
 * Yeah, I'm on my Easter hols too. YAY!
 * 06:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

02.04.07-Ranking icons
Instead of having letters and numbers on our icons, I though that each leading member would just have their own differently coloured symbol to specify them, and all rank would be taken from the symbol by knowledge of the person (or, alternatively, by reading the image page/person's user page). After all, we won't be around for ever, and chances are we won't be of the same rank either. 11:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Well I was thinking that if we ever changed our position, we just change it on our symbol. If you want to chamge your symbol, feel free, just make sure that it is changed here too!---Si http://images.wikia.com/tardis/images/e/e4/Si_HTL_Seal_Leader.PNG 11:10, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, I will. 11:14, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Alright, I've made a different pic, redone my sig, and found out how to stop that little external link arrow coming on op the sig - the  tag.  11:47, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

how does the fit in to my signaure?---Si http://images.wikia.com/tardis/images/e/e4/Si_HTL_Seal_Leader.PNG 20:09, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Hang on I think i just messed up my signature let me just see.---Si http://images.wikia.com/tardis/images/e/e4/Si_HTL_Seal_Leader.PNG&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt; 20:21, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * phew not that bad. Ghel help---Si http://images.wikia.com/tardis/images/e/e4/Si_HTL_Seal_Leader.PNG&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt; 20:21, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * You place the tag in front of the icon and add after it. If you're still not sure about it, then look at the end of the code for my signature . 06:28, 9 April 2007 (UTC)