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Thefartydoctor wrote: In which case, that further backs up my "Edit". The point in my edit was that you have Faction Paradox (and before I start, I'm not a fan of FP nor do I disapprove of its inclusion, so there's no peddling or bias of anything on my part). FP put a lot of work into its range of books and audios that were meant for the DWU, despite them having no true licence to use certain terminologies. There's a complete oeuvre of work that spans years and the authors actually intertwine their own stories with those with licences.

Just to make this absolutely clear, there's no way they didn't have the rights to put the Daleks in this movie. In this case, we have a movie who uses the Daleks as a light-hearted approach on a "British villain". I get your point but you've kind of said it yourself. If they wanted this movie to take place in the DWU, they'd have least hired Briggs to do a few more lines. The Daleks were evidently not supposed to be taken seriously.

I don't really see your point. So, by your logic, because the Daleks aren't goofy cartoon parodies with tons of dialogue the movie wanted them to be taken as a joke? I totally disagree. Almost every other villain in this is played to be much more of a parody. The Daleks are just played like the Daleks. They don't conspire with the other villains while laughing maniacally because that's not what Daleks do.

Just to make sure, you and I agree right? I'm all against making this a valid form of narrative.

I mean, have you read any of my posts at all?

There are too many crossovers and the characters are dealt with too flippantly. It's more bragging that "we have the Doctor/Daleks" rather than "we're making a Doctor Who game/story".

I don't think that's an argument we can really back up without any quotes from the creators. LEGO Dimensions does not leave me with the impression of a bunch of people who wanted to use the Doctor without understanding him. Doctor Who is, by no means, treated as a shiny object to show off.

There might be a much better explanation of all this. Maybe they didn't want to spoil the Daleks being in the movie? Putting "Nick Briggs" in the cast would make it obvious to most people that this was the case.