User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-45692830-20200511054726/@comment-33695797-20200512060510

I don’t mean to change the subject too far, but SOTO, do I gather correctly that you are saying: in the case of things from the real world which are based on real-world counterparts that also have their own page, it makes more sense to dab the DWU counterpart instead? Should this be added to T:DAB? I do agree; despite dab terms generally being applied to real world things, it certainly would be confusing, even if it is technically true, to have Doctor Who be the page for the Doctor Who (N-Space), and the page for the real world series being called "Doctor Who (franchise)" or something like that. Your Tom Baker example also works quite well; while "Tom Baker (actor)" is true, people searching for Tom Baker likely aren't looking for the in-universe equivalent (although this isn’t the best example because there already are multiple DWU Tom Bakers). But then we run into T:EVIL TWIN issues...

As for the actual topic at hand, I don't think it's a problem to have a page that says something like "Osgood had a Big Finish app on her computer" and in a BTS section says "this is a reference to Big Finish Productions". Remember, as it says on Tardis:Stub, a stub isn't just a short article; it's one that is short because it is lacking in information that still can be added. We have plenty of short articles with nothing more that can be added from an in-universe perspective— to pick an example I recently created, the Pisces-Cetus Supercluster Complex. There's a little bit of information we can give from an in-universe source, and then the BTS section essentially says "this is a real thing by the way, there's the Wikipedia link if you want to know more". Similarly, about connecting this to other in-universe things, T:NO RW says just because we as the audience know that this is referencing Big Finish Productions and in all probability it is a company that produces audios, we can't say this for sure without in-universe evidence.

Personally I don't think it's a bad idea to split these pages (ex. The LEGO Group as a real world company and LEGO as referenced in-universe works well); in my opinion it is kind of silly to have the page for the British Broadcasting Corporation, the company responsible for this entire franchise, just a Behind the scenes section of the in-universe BBC. But looking at that, there's also the reverse situation at BBC One, a real world article with a minor "In the DWU" section. And it also depends on the topic— for example, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is a page for an in-universe play, yet it is mostly comprised of real world details explaining the connection with Doctor Who. But as important as those connections are, I'm not sure the real world series deserves its own page. Ultimately I suppose we should just be consistent.