User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Tales from the Tardis/@comment-188432-20130325173913/@comment-1046-20130415020420

It's a fairly small point, but surely it's very simple to distinguish the "Vienna universe" (one audio play, possibly two) from the Marvel Universe (decades upon decades of comics with a highly developed multiverse). If the "Vienna universe" exists as something distinct from the DWU (which is how Czechout is reading the comment from the producer), then it was created either in The Shadow Heart or in The Memory Box. The Marvel Universe existed before the TARDIS landed on the roof of the Baxter building, and continued to exist afterwards. It's a well-documented fictional universe. The "Vienna universe" isn't, to my knowledge, described anywhere.

A wiki is a way to present and organize information. When we say that we're not covering The Fantastic Four, no information is lost; there are plenty of other resources discussing the history of the Fantastic Four. There are even other wikis. As far as I know, there is no wiki discussing the narrative content of The Memory Box.

As for the claim that allowing Vienna would break tardis:valid sources, I don't see how that's the case. The fourth rule — the one that Vienna would presumably break — says:"If a story was intended to be set outside the DWU, then it's probably not allowed. But a community discussion will likely be needed make a final determination."

This is the community discussion required by that rule. And honestly, it looks to me as if the community wants to include this story.

I'll note that at one point in this discussion CzechOut has paraphrased rule #4 as "there's no suggestion by the people behind it that it's not set in the DWU". That's not quite what the rule as currently written says. What we have is a situation where there is conflicting evidence about whether Vienna is a Doctor Who spin-off or not. On the one hand, the producer says that it isn't; on the other hand, the Big Finish website describes the series as a "brand new spin-off from the Doctor Who main range adventure The Shadow Heart." So we can choose whether to include it or not. And that's what this discussion is.

As I say, I don't have a position on the matter myself. But if policy is meant to reflect community views, and not just what the people who enforce it think those views should be, we should respect the opinions given here.