User talk:Shambala108/Archive 10

Re: message
Sorry about the inconvenience. Emotions got the better of me. CoT    ?  01:09, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

NPA
To be clear, the "confused naysayer" comment was deliberately written in a way so as to avoid violating T:NPA, since it specifically avoids identifying any one person or group of people, and I frankly don't consider the words "confused" or "naysayer" to be insults. However, thank you for the warning, and I acknowledge my violation in this way.

However, I (as a user) would like to appeal you (as an admin) to edit T:NPA to make it more clear in this regard, particularly the examples given there, since I'm well familiar with the policy as written, but I didn't think the comment fell into category of insult. I'd just like to know an objective scale, since I've seen other users banned for what they thought weren't violations, and I'd hate to stumble into a similar scenario.

(None of the above is intended to be an attack on anyone, and I deeply apologize any unintended offense if taken by any reader.) NateBumber ☎  15:50, February 27, 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for those links! I read them both and found them pretty interesting, especially the discussion over User:Boblipton. I guess I was just confused about whether my comment fell under the "civil language used to describe an editor's actions" clause, since the word naysayer ("someone who opposes or is skeptical about something") has no negative or uncivil connotation to me. I moderate Reddit's two largest Doctor Who subreddits, with over a quarter of a million users, and I pretty heavily enforce the "don't be a dick" rule over there; I guess the rules here are just a lot harsher, and that's a problem with my expectations. In any case, I'm sure we can agree that my unfortunate phrasing was far from indicative of any negative "discussion habit" - though if you don't agree, please let me know, so I can change accordingly and avoid the fate of Bob and so many recent banees. Thanks again! NateBumber ☎  04:07, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

TARDIS (Hell Bent)
Hi. The merge/deletion tag has been up on TARDIS (Hell Bent) for just over one year (since January 21, 2016) and nothing has happened pertaining to the merge of this article into Clara's TARDIS. I would like to ask, why have you reverted my edits? I did not delete any information, I merely followed policy and redirected this article to the other one, keeping to the consensus established in the merge discussion. This issue has been unresolved for over one year, it's a bit crazy that it's gone on for this long. Regards. NickM98 ☎  04:22, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

Video policy
Hey Shambala108. I see you're now back after a (well deserved and needed, I'm sure) period of absence. I see that a new user has violated the Video policy, and that is has been dealt with. I know is pretty much common knowledge that only admins can upload videos here, but, at least to my view, it is a bit hard to get the idea from the policy page itself.

While there is a warning right on the top of the page, I believe it is something that is very easy to, unintentionally, miss (I must say I myself did not see it until the 5th or 6th time I stumbled across the page). Most, if not all of the text on the page is written as if regular users were permitted to upload videos by themselves (I imagine that it was written when everyone still could, and when the change was decided, no one edited the text).

Phrases such as "This means that you cannot upload a video about something which has not been officially released in its entirety", "but users who upload region-locked video will not be subject to punishment for doing so" and " If the video is allowed by policy, then you should upload and display it on the page" may give the impression that any user can still upload videos. If/when you have the time, it might be a good thing to take a new look on the entire text, replacing "you should upload" for "you should suggest the video at Tardis:Video recommendations", and stuff like that, so we diminish the amount of videos uploaded by users.

Anyway, glad to see you're back. :) OncomingStorm12th ☎  22:47, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

The doctor who years deletion
Can you please explain why the doctor who years page has been deleted so I can improve in future 95.147.32.223talk to me 22:29, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Images
Could you explain why some of the images that I uploaded have been removed from pages? Like the ones from Zygon (webcast), Zygon and the Tenth Doctor (webcast), and The Doctor in 'The Return of Doctor Mysterio'. I believed I added the correct licences and followed the rules, but I'm not as familiarised with this wiki's policies than someone like yourself. --Borisashton ☎  19:18, March 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, this helps a lot. --Borisashton ☎  15:45, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Uncredited Cast
Apologies about that - I think I've sorted it all out now. I just used the same reference link that was used on The Wedding of River Song story page for the uncredited cast. Thanks for the message. Cyruptsaram ☎  14:30, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Matteusz
Hi, you removed Matteusz Andrzejewski from Category:Joyrider hosts. As an active contributor to the category, I'd like to keep it consistent. There is an ongoing dispute about the proper name for the category, so I thought you might be editing based on that dispute. At any rate, I'd appreciate if we could compare notes on this so that all unfortunate hosts are treated equally. To the best of my memory, his body was taken by Steve Hopley, who, technically, is not a client of Joyriders but an employee. Was this the reason? Amorkuz ☎  12:09, March 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Now I understand. When the category was added originally, it was misspelled: Joyrider host instead of Joyrider hosts. Thanks for noticing. Amorkuz ☎  14:48, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Blitzen fish discussion
As far as I see things, there's no issue here. We both agree on the same things. Note, when I said "we" when referring to experienced users, I was talking about all of us, including yourself. Furthermore, when users (and I could name names) get excited on actual discussion threads in the forums and hastily try to close them down, I'm one of the first to say "let's leave it open for people to come along and have a say". I'm one of the first who reminds editors (new and old) that some forums stay open for years, they don't get resolved in a matter of days.

There's nothing to understand here because there's no issue. You have Amorkus who has listened to the audio in question. He provided me with the answer to my main question: is this event referred to in the audio? With that answer, there was no need to leave that discussion wide open. It's counter-productive. We also both agree that Wikis are editable. Anyone can come along with new or contrary evidence and change something. In fact, somebody did edit it seconds after I did. They changed the paragraph I wrote completely. And it was better haha. That's what great about Wikis. And if the edits aren't in line with the Tardis rules, it gets undone by others.

There's honestly no issue here. I just think you read my intention wrong in what I was saying. You're telling me what I already know. You're telling an experienced user the rules he already knows. Can we drop it? The Farty  Doctor   Talk  01:56, March 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm just going to re-edit my response for one simple reason, and that's so that nothing gets taken out of context. Thanks for coming along to the Blitzen fish talk page and helping us out. But I will remind you of one thing. One of the core rules on this Wiki is "assume good faith". When you see a comment online, you neither know the context nor the intent behind it. As an admin, you really should not have jumped at me the way you have- once over the time comment and another time from a simple line out of my response. From being a "chat moderator", you should know that people take offense wrongly all the time and it's your job to step in and enforce the "assume good faith" rule. You've not shown that here, and to be honest, I feel a bit taken aback (maybe even hounded) by it.


 * As far as I'm concerned, this needless discussion is over. If either of us should be offended, it should be myself. I'm the one who has had his words mangled on two occasions. But I'm not offended and I won't be contacting other admins over it. I'm not that sort of person. I contribute to the Wiki with any information that I've learnt and then I get on with my life. I've been here for almost a decade and I've abided with the rules. If, when you're "assuming good faith", you can't take that into account when working out if I'm being "offensive", then you may need to read up on the rule.


 * No offense is ever meant by anything I say, so if you take offense, I can't be held responsible for that. We live in an age where people take offense at everything, especially on the internet. And I'm not for any of that. Easy life is all I want. I won't be interacting with this conversation further because it's silly. Have a good day.
 * 14:58, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

2100
To be honest with you, I don't really remember why I would have tied this year into The Waters of Mars. It's been a half a decade. I looked again at all the terrible, terrible website graphics that are in that show today, and I couldn't find any reference to 2100 -- though I did manage to add a couple of new pages to the wiki. So it wasn't a total loss.

I am pretty sure it's claimed elsewhere, and not by one of my edits, that there is some connection between TWoM and 2100. But the truth is, the much stronger evidence for that whole "humanity starts colonising nearby star systems" thing is actually in Killing Ground, where it's pretty explicit. Grant comes from 2191 (as stated several times later in the book). The prologue says, "They were in the TARDIS, ninety-one years into Grant's past..." So: 2100.

Delete tag has been removed, but so, too, have all references to TWoM. Interestingly, though, Killing Ground is actually consistent with TWoM. You'd need lightspeed before colonisation -- and TWoM tells us that lightspeed comes in 2089, so it all kinda "fits together'. 03:30: Sat 01 Apr 2017

Closing an old thread
Hey, I know you admins have been getting these messages a lot lately, and I know it's kind of bad to keep asking these, but would you be able to give a look on Thread:204223 and, perhaps, close it? I think it's quite fair to said we were able to reach a consensus (that is, to removed the "UNIT" prefixes from the UNIT: The New Series boxsets. Even two admins agreed upon that matter (well, at the very least, User:SOTO said that this "would seem to be a natural extension of the "Doctor Who" decision."). Anyway, I believe that you are the only currently-active admin that hasn't posted on the thread, so it seemed correct to bring this to you. Thanks. OncomingStorm12th ☎  01:51, April 6, 2017 (UTC)

Military Officers/Personnel
Hey there, I had a small question, and was wondering if you could enlighten me: What is the difference between "Human military personnel" and "Human military officers"? It seems as though they are two very similar categories. Could they not be merged into one to avoid confusion? Regards, 22:39, April 10, 2017 (UTC)

I am Shambutekh the Destroyer. Where I tread I leave nothing but dust and deleted images.
The question is: do you find it good?

Another question is: can you restore images you've deleted like you can restore articles you've deleted? There are a heckuva lot of images which do not pass our current standards for images; I would ask that instead of deleting them, you make a list for editors like me so that the images can be updated with better dimensions/aspect ratios/file sizes instead of them being deleted. I don't think tardis wiki is being improved by these losses. CoT    ?  23:29, April 11, 2017 (UTC)


 * Seriously, please stop deleting these images! There's a better way! CoT     ?  00:33, April 12, 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm perfectly aware that you're not paid. I'm also perfectly aware of why you're deleting the images you are. In case you weren't aware, I was comparing the loss of a handful of images to the extinction of the human race. But I think this could very quickly become more than a handful. There were loads of images uploaded before our policies were strictly enforced. I'd hardly say "it's too much work" to simply note down the problematic images when you're already doing the double deed of deleting them and removing them from their pages. CoT     ?  01:03, April 12, 2017 (UTC)

images
I don't mean to cause you any trouble, but the loss of the "probably hundreds of images" will be a serious detriment to tardis. You say it's too much work to fix all these images; it's much more work to find these images all over again and reinsert them into articles.

Might I ask, how are you finding all the images which break the rules? Are you just sifting through every image on the wiki? CoT    ?  01:20, April 12, 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry that you're feeling personally offended, but I've been rather offended by the idea that removing at least a tenth of all images on this wiki would be an improvement. Images that have been on here for years. It's incomparable to deleting an unsourced page that's been around for years. One can only imagine how much more would be at stake if this was happening before OncomingStorm12th's campaign to make many images fit with the guidelines.


 * Please understand that no personal offence is intended towards you from myself. Funnily enough, if you were a paid wikia employee I probably would treat you differently than the average user, because then this whole thing would be more than just a hobby.


 * In my mind, the "the message [I] left on [your] talk page yesterday" wasn't a message at all, but a fun laid-back title (in my perfect world, your reply would've had a title like "Face it Soldeed, you're being invaded... by bad images" or "We're talking about the Daleks bad images, the most evil creatures ever invented"). It's just a matter of choosing a quote from Dr Who and twisting it to reflect what I'm talking about.


 * It would be a lie to say that "honestly, just be upfront about what you're doing" wasn't born out of frustration, but that was frustration purely with what you were doing. You almost always leave an edit summary; not leaving one would make an edit that was removing recently deleted images from pages look just like an edit fixing a grammatical issue. Could I have worded it better? Obviously.


 * Keep in mind that I will be trying my damndest to undo any damage done by you. When an image is deleted from the wiki, google images isn't automatically updated. True, only a 300px wide thumbnail image survives, but it's enough to salvage an image that passes the rules. In cases like that image of Sweetville, several other websites have identical files probably copied from the wiki page. In a way, this solves your problem, but there's a way to do this without being left with a boatload of compressed images which only reach the minimum of our standards.


 * When some admin other than you returns to having a regular presence on this wiki, I'll be sure to ask them to restore all the fixable images that you've deleted these past few days.


 * P.S. please don't bother making that "here's why you actually undeniably did break T:Personal Attacks" post that I'm sure is second-nature to you. What's done is done. I'm not trying to dispute the "charges", just trying to explain myself to you. User to user.


 * P.P.S. feel free to delete File:Yoghurt.png and File:Zarka.png (unless you can merge their histories into File:Yoghurt 11th Hour.jpg and File:Zarka Web Planet.jpg). CoT     ?  20:46, April 13, 2017 (UTC)

Deletion
Hi an IP user has recreated the List of individual Time Lords and Gallifreyans that was recently deleted please could the page be deleted again. Adric♥Nyssa∩Talk? 09:19, April 14, 2017 (UTC)

I added an image of Moira (Bill's Foster mum from The Pilot) and you then removed it. I just wanted to know why that was. I'm new to Tardis Wiki and I just wanted to know for next time

Apology note
Hello, Shambala108, I hope you are doing well.

As for me, well, my block expired and I'm free to edit the wiki again. But, before I do, I just wanted to stop by and apologies for my behavior that lead to the six month block. Don't worry, I don't hold anything against you, in fact, I wanted to thank you for it. Without TARDISWiki to divide my attention, I've been able to devote myself to my uni work more effectively.

I'd also like to say that I support the admins in their hard, and often unthanked, work. Don't pay attention to those users that denounce you guys. You're the guardians that protect us from ourselves when we hit a breaking point and need to have some sense snapped back into us.

With that said, can I ask what I did to get blocked? It's been a long six months, and the only information I could find was "repeat ignorance of admin request", but after looking through my talk page, the only instruction I found was leaving a note when I remove info, which my contributions indicate I did. Maybe I've just forgot something I did, or there's something hear I'm not getting, either way, I want to ensure that I don't cross the line again and can stay on as a full time User again.

Anyway, I hope this becomes an opportunity for us to find common ground and start afresh. Yours in good health, BananaClownMan ☎  10:34, April 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * If it helps, I tried to Achieve them here; Talk:BananaClownMan/Archive 1.BananaClownMan ☎  14:18, April 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * In response to your response

1) I think the reason I have such a hard time accepting the "no speculation rule" is that it was a practice going on long before I even joined this wiki. Heck, the only reason I took an interest in the timeline pages in the first place is that I was adding context from the 12 Doctors, 12 Stories anthology and got tired of guessing where to put the summaries, so I took a look at the wiki's timeline theory pages, saw that they were heavily incomplete and decides to try and kill two birds with one stone by finding as many facts as I could about each story and try to put them together so I didn't have to worry about guessing incorrectly when I added story context again. As you can see, this "no speculation" argument is as old as this wiki and I don't think its going to ever be resolved. I think the best we can do is just agree to disagree on the subject.

2) Thank you for the help and I have now successfully achieved all discussions that have ended on my talking page, keeping only the ongoing talks

3) I understand, and will do my best to always leave an edit summery. If in future I forget, know that it truly is down to me overlooking it because, as they say, "old habits die hard."

One last thing, there seems to be some confusion regarding theories. In that, nothing I submit is my theory, if it can even be called that. What I do is simply look through all the pages on this very wiki regarding story to find a continuity note of reference that pinpoints a prose, comic, video game or audio in relation to a TV episode or serial. Failing that, I look at the hyperlinks connected to a page and see if they document any facts that can also pinpoint a "before" or "after" effect. Some websites linked even note the blurb that states where the book or audio takes place in the TV continuity. Very little of what I jot down is a conclusion I came to on my own. Just thought it would be useful to get that out there.

I hope you find this response satisfactory. Forever here to talk, BananaClownMan ☎  11:02, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

Heather
Recently, you (and User:CzechOut removed both a speedy rename and a simple rename tag off Heather because "we'd never dab in the manner requested". However, the page does need some sort of dab term, as per T:DAB "if more than three things share a common name, the un-disambiguated term typically goes to a disambiguation page". This means Heather should be the disambiguation page. So, what dab term do you think would be appropriate?

Also, why couldn't we dab it as (plant)? I know is not the most common dab term on the wiki, but so aren't (flower) and (element). OncomingStorm12th ☎  21:28, April 19, 2017 (UTC)

Apology
Sorry for violating T:VID LINK. Amorkuz ☎  05:40, April 25, 2017 (UTC)

.png file sizes
I am not sure how to move forwards with uploading .png images with transparent backgrounds. .png files are naturally larger than .jpg files, and so it's nearly impossible to have them be both over 250px wide and under 100kb in file size. What would you have me do? Am I to upload an image in under 250px just to serve the purpose of getting it to slightly below 100kb?

In the case of File:The eighth doctor and charley 2.png, you'll find that I had the image barely over 250px wide. And yet, it was just 13 KB OVER the 100 KB limit. Which rule am I expect to break then? Because how things are set up now, there is no way to upload a .png with a transparent backdrop without breaking one of the two.

It just seems like the rules don't make any sense in this one instance. It's the reverse of a loop-hole -- the rule of "under 100kb" was written for jpg files, and .png files are allowed in limited stock. So we have to find some sort of middle ground in this situation. OS25 (Talk) 11:13, April 29, 2017 (UTC)


 * Not trying to pin this on you, of course. This is a general fault in our rules. I'll post elsewhere, as to not bother you further. OS25 (Talk) 11:24, April 29, 2017 (UTC)

Apologies
Thank you for showing me the link for video recommendations, I'm new and thought that I could upload or link to videos myself. I've submitted the recommendations now, thanks! Flabshoe1 ☎  20:38, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

Snivystorm
Hey Shambala108, I think your recent blocking of User:Snivystorm seems more than a tad bit harsh. Whatever happened to "Users attacking other editors personally (in regards to anything) should be given one warning prior to a cool-off ban."? Snivy seemed like a good editor with great potential and this major deterrent might have ruined all that. It's made all the more tragic by the fact that (the way I read it) Snivy was not insulting you, but trying to reinforce your message to an anonymous user. Their response to my comment makes it quite clear that they have respect for you and all of the admin team.

If not a complete repeal, could you reduce the ban to a week or even only a few days? Snivy's probably already learned their lesson in etiquette. CoT    ?  16:39, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

Threads breaking spoiler policy
So two threads recently emerged, both discussing untelevised events of Series 10. I'm not sure the protocol for closing and removing these, but one of them is Thread:215470. The other I can't find, suggesting that it was already removed. Thanks for your time. :) OS25 (Talk) 21:39, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism
Hey, I just wanted to alert you to the edits of User:TanookiBilly. He's been vandalizing a lot of pages with joke posts. OS25 (Talk) 22:18, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Possible sockpuppet
Hi. I may be wrong, but I believe that the user RobHolmes, who has been editing the discontinuity discussions on World Enough and Time and The Doctor Falls, is the user Paulmorris7777, whom you blocked earlier. This is because of the excessive use of exclamation marks and the persistent attitude. 81.103.146.200talk to me 16:28, July 2, 2017 (UTC)