User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-4028641-20151201203643/@comment-5918438-20151205190000

This discussion adds nothing to what has already been discussed before. Thread:130675 was open for almost a year, between 2013 and 2014, and clear consensus was reached that advertisements, including those that have in-universe characters within them, are not valid sources, by virtue of not being stories.

I quote:

CzechOut wrote: There is such a thing as being in-character but non-narrative. In-character advertisement is a common ploy of marketing, as I've demonstrated above with a number of industry and academic reports.

What you haven't explained is how we can allow this, but disallow the dozens of in-character advertisements otherwise associated with Doctor Who. You're arguing for this one thing and I'm worried about the precedent that this is setting. It's better to get rid of one thing that may be marginal, if it helps us weed out things that are clearly over the line, than it is to keep the thing that's debatable and thereby cast doubt on things that should be easily eliminated.

This discussion brings nothing new to the table. It's already established, from that 2013/2014 discussion, that in-character advertisements are distinct from narrative stories. We have policy from that which dictates that all such advertisements are not valid sources, because a clear-cut rule was deemed necessary. This reasoning is in fact woven into the text of T:VS itself.

I am hence closing this thread, on the basis that this has been shown to be an advertisement, and advertisements are not valid as sources on this wiki. Thank you, everyone, for participating.