User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-45692830-20200510214412/@comment-6032121-20200510215106

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-45692830-20200510214412/@comment-6032121-20200510215106 Not much of an inclusion debate if you ask me. A very occasional user (no offence), User:Epsilon the Eternal, asked if this story was canon. Just as I was explaining to Epsilon that we don't deal in canon around here, User:Xx-connor-xX weighed in under the impression that the story's validity was under question due to the title of the story being wedged into a shot rather than getting a swirly title card like we're used to for television (but Extremis and the TV Movie are also edited so that the narrative footage bleeds into, and out of, the opening credits!), and that the Osgoods sit down to watch what is clearly spelled out as an episode of Doctor Who at the end — but the fact that I can link to an in-universe Doctor Who page sans tag is all the proof you need that Doctor Who is well-established to exist within the Doctor's universe (or multiverse).

There is every appearance that Peter Harness meant for this story to take place in the Doctor Who universe, from the custom-modeled UNIT desktop including files about Zygon sightings to the use of a DWU concept like a time eddy. An appearance by Doctor Who in-universe doesn't change that, and until we see some hard quotes from Harness about this story not being set in the DWU, I see no reason whatsoever why this story's validity should be questioned.

Folks, The Terror of the Umpty Ums is valid. We can surely deal with this without worrying about our precious (nonexistent) canon like Mary Whitehouse clutching at her pearls, and I fully trust this community, including Connor and Epsilon, to recognize this.