User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-31010985-20180428165444/@comment-6032121-20200514164508

I didn't think it was possible for yet again more crushing evidence to materialise, but I just read The Five O'Clock Shadow for the first time and the stubby description of its events that was on the page until today did not even remotely do it justice.

It is a story about how the Doctor, the one who's a Time Lord from TV, creates Dr. Who and Susan using some sort of Block Transfer Computation-type thing to create idealised versions of himself and of his memory of Susan as part of a scheme. Dr. Who and Suzy are last seen living happily in a house of their own while the Doctor is on his way, which presumably leads into Dr. Who eventually putting together his own TARDIS and thereby the events of Dr. Who and the Daleks happening.

This is, of course, of a similar ilk to "John and Gillian were really just from the Land of Fiction all along". We're not going to accept it as gospel without some serious "According to one account" language. But… folks, here is that valid story featuring both the Doctor and Dr. Who we've been waiting for all along, if there was still any doubt. Not only is Dr. Who in the DWU, but there is a perfectly good way to place him in the Doctor's timeline without any speculation, if you want one.