Talk:Kate Stewart

Age during The Silurians
When I encountered it, article had this statement:
 * Kate was five at the time of the Wenley Moor Silurian incident. (PROSE: Doctor Who and the Cave-Monsters)

Well, I've searched the book seven ways from Sunday, and all of the following search terms have failed: None of them turn up a hint of anything to do with a daughter of the Brig. Thus, I've removed this sentence because the citation is clearly wrong. If anyone knows where the statement actually comes from, they're free to reinsert it, along with the proper citation. 00:40: Sun 23 Sep 2012
 * Kate
 * Katherine
 * Katarina
 * daughter
 * Fiona
 * "five years"
 * "5 years"
 * "age of five"
 * kid
 * child

I think it might be from The Scales of Injustice. Doug86 ☎  00:43, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Confirmed.  00:49: Sun 23 Sep 2012

'Kate was the daughter',,, isn't that supposed to be 'is the daughter'. She hasn't died yet has she?


 * We write everything in past tense here. 170.185.224.19talk to me 13:34, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

Doris the step mother
The lead asserted that Doris Lethbridge-Stewart was Kate's step-mother. That's pure speculation, since new spouses of non-custodial natural parents are not automatically considered step-parents. There's no way in hell my mother would consider her father's wife her "step-mother" in any sense, and I certainly don't think of her as my "step-grandmother". "Step-parent" is not a legal title that simply passes automatically upon a marriage certificate. Step parents have no legally-enforceable parental responsibilities until and unless they actually adopt the child, at which point they are no longer step-parents.

You have to essentially earn the title "step-mother", so we would need to have narrative evidence that there was some sort of positive relationship between Kate and Doris. We've got good evidence from Scales of Injustice that Fiona was her natural and custodial mother. As far as I'm aware, there isn't any evidence in any story that Kate had any sort of interaction with Doris.

Due to the lack of a valid source, Doris therefore cannot stay in the main body of the article, much less the lead. 16:42: Sat 26 Jan 2013


 * I'm unable to find a dictionary that defines "stepmother" as narrowly as you do. Oxford defines it simply as "a woman who is married to one’s father after the divorce of one’s parents or the death of one’s mother." Can you cite a source for your definition? -- Rowan Earthwood ☎  16:57, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with Rowan. I've never heard of a step-parent not being an automatic title. Ever. Adopted parent is not automatic, as it has to be done legally, while a step-parent is automatic: someone who is currently married to a legal parent. I know legalities can differ between the US and the UK, but I'm suspect of whether they truly differ so much as to not be automatic. Restricting it to being a "positive" and "earned" definition sounds more like a personal/moral definition (essentially an opinion), not a legal one. Looking at the Cambridge.org online definition of stepmother, it states, "[T]he woman who is married to someone's father but who is not their real mother[.]" I would also like a cited source to the contrary. Mewiet ☎  04:44, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

She *isn't* Osgood's mother!
It's worth debunking the claims already spreading across the internet that Kate is Osgood's mother. She's not - Osgood does not address Kate as 'Mum' in "Day of the Doctor", but as 'Ma'am', which is sometimes pronounced as 'Mum' (e.g. when speaking to the Queen). Later in the episode Osgood addresses Kate as "Kate".86.178.204.38talk to me 09:32, November 24, 2013 (UTC)