User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-31010985-20180428165444/@comment-4028641-20191213154108

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-31010985-20180428165444/@comment-4028641-20191213154108 I understand your motivation fully, but those charity books are nothing more than lightly published fan fiction. With the faction paradox, it's at least the same writers as far as I've been told. But with the Cushing films, it's literally unrelated fans making fan fiction. I can understand you wanting to make your own wiki to cover said fan fiction, but it's not a real argument as per why all the content should *move* from this wiki to another.

The rest of your post is sound in logic, but your implication that we should cover these films as we do novelizations (or that we have to do this, and thus a seperate wiki makes more sense) is something I don't agree with. The issue is that all of the Cushing media (which is to long films, one quality comic and one short-story, alongside other half-appearances discussed before) are part of another "canon", another universe, another collection of stories. But they are not Non-DWU texts, not by a long shot. Thus they deserve a place on this wiki, even if a seperate style of coverage.

I can not continue to emphasize enough that how we cover things like the Dr. Who films is pretty much exactly like how the Sonic/Power Rangers wikis cover their respective "weird reboot" properties... Except we, for a reason melting down to a weird policy evolution and a choice not to fix our internal problems, collect "weird reboot" stories under the same label of stories which aren't stories.

Then we encourage people to make pages like Dr. Who (Dr. Who and the Daleks), because pages on stories like that clearly do work, but then we add stories to the same category based on it being impossible to use them to write pages. Like Attack of the Graske (video game), LEGO Dimensions (video game), plays which no longer exist in any way, deleted scenes, and many roleplaying books. We say "Pages on these topics can't be made and be accurate. But because of our inconsistent treatment of INVALID stories, people go ahead and make pages like The Doctor (The Ultimate Adventure), Street urchin (Attack of the Graske), Anthony Williams (P.S.), Vorgenson, and so many others. The final pages I've linked here exist as a mockery of our inclusion debates.

The difference here is that Dr. Who (Dr. Who and the Daleks), Ninth Doctor (Scream of the Shalka), Susan (Dr. Who and the Daleks) and many others are all totally competent pages made about Doctor Who stories which are only invalid because they don't fit into the pre-existing Doctor Who canon, while all the other pages are about stories that we deemed unable to have pages written off of.

So, really, this small group of stories where the pages do work (Susan (Dr. Who and the Daleks), Ninth Doctor (The Curse of Fatal Death), The Master (The Curse of Fatal Death)) should be split off into a new category of what we cover, and all the other pages should be deleted, or at least rewritten to be from an out-of-universe perspective0. This is good not only for these stories, but also the site's policies and content.