Talk:Tenth Doctor

Suggestion for a new image


Sorry about adding the photo to the main image yesterday. I wanted to test it out, but couldnt change it back.

Anyway, the current image is not eligible for change until december 2012, which is long overdue.

I am not a fan of the current image. It is too big and makes 10 look weird with the glasses. Also, he is facing left from a weird angle. This photo, he is facing left, the lighting is right and it fits perfectly. Please consider my choice. Thank you.

Quicksilver 999


 * I'm sorry but the suggested image broke so many of our rules that it had to be deleted. Please study our Category:Image policies before suggesting images. The main rules are that images must be given a license, be no more than 100k in size, be no less than 420px in width, cannot be promotional images. But there are more nuances. Amorkuz ☎  19:13, December 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Just pointing out that there is no "long overdue" change. The Dec. 2012 date was to prevent users from calling for another change so soon after a very very very long debate. There was no suggestion that we are required to change it now.


 * And your complaints about the current image being "too big" go completely against Tardis:Guide to images. Please carefully read that policy to see just how tightly cropped we want the infobox images.


 * Lastly, don't forget that you must sign your posts with the four tildes: ~ . Thanks, Shambala108 ☎  19:39, December 18, 2017 (UTC)

Spouse
Tennant said that Rose was a girlfriend of Ten, shouldnt she be listed in the spouse column? I can add sources if needed

51.9.198.113talk to me 21:02, March 24, 2019 (UTC)
 * No, girlfriends are not spouses, and Tennant is not an in universe source. Shambala108 ☎  21:08, March 24, 2019 (UTC)

Clarifying Rose-the-cat
I am going to move this to the talk page to avoid an ongoing edit war, even as I know that talk page debates take years to get satisfying resolution. But User:BananaClownMan's ongoing claims that A Rose by Any Other Name is set after Journey's End makes absolutely no sense.

The entire story is about the Doctor mourning Rose Tyler after she fell into Pete's World. The comic ends with the Doctor deciding he has to move on and get a new companion in spite of losing Rose. Early on, the comic was clearly meant to be set after Series 2. An offhand reference to the events of Series 3 brought this into question, so the timeline was then moved there.

But then, someone pointed out that a Hath cameos for literally one panel of a random issue. I believe the context is that the Doctor goes to a lonely hearts club, and there's a Hath there for literally one panel. BananaClownMan thusly believes that, as you could speculate that he spent enough time with this Hath to recognize one later, the comic must be set post-Series 4.

This is, with all due respect, asinine, and another example of why Timeline pages were taken off the mainspace, because they encourage an exacerbatingly incorrect reading of sources. No, the comic about the Doctor mourning Rose Tyler post-Series 2 is not set after he's reunited with her and after he loses Donna because a random fish alien cameos for one panel. Placing the story post-Series 4 makes absolutely no sense in terms of the story presented, and was clearly not the authorial intent. If it was, the comic would have name dropped Donna I don't know, once? And it would not have ended with 10 deciding to get a new companion after his final televised one. OS25🤙☎️ 11:06, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I think the Hath part of your argument is absolutely true and basically above discussion. The thing is that The Doctor's Daughter never actually says the Tenth Doctor doesn't recognise the Hath! In the scene where he "first" comes face-to-face with the fish-people, he doesn't go, "wow! I've never met one of you lot!" or anything. (Mostly, he ducks, because people are shooting guns in all directions.) The entire idea that he has never met the Hath before relies on this quote

"Yes, I noticed. With the Hath. But tell me, because we got a bit out of circulation — Eastern Zone and all that. So who exactly are the Hath?"

- Tenth Doctor


 * But — come now. At most, all we have here is him learning the name 'Hath' and asking for more information about who they are as a species. This doesn't have to mean mean he doesn't remember his speed-dating encounter with another Hath a big long while ago. The whole gag, in A Rose by Any Other Name, is that the Doctor wasn't able to communicate with the Hath, so obviously he didn't learn its name or anything about the species! Obviously! (EDIT: Slightly misremembered the gag, actually. My bad. Teach me to not reread before posting. But it is still the joke that he doesn't speak to the Hath for any great length of time — it is a speed date, after all — so the basic point that he needn't have learned the name, or anything substantial, stands.) Big Finish Productions doing their level best to tip-toe around continuity could not have written it better.


 * But even that may be taking the above quote a little too literally. You may notice that the Doctor, in this quote, is lying. "We got a bit out of circulation; Eastern Zone and all that". This is a classic moment of Dr Who playing dumb to get the bad guy talking. What he actually wants is background information on the particular ongoing war. You could absolutely imagine the Doctor coming up on a weird enclave of humans fighting Daleks in a historical context that baffles him, and sidling up to the leader, and playing dumb, and going, "now, I'm just a silly little hermit who doesn't know nuthink' about nuthink', so could you help a guy out? These Dalek things, who are they, what's their deal? Since when have they been attacking you?" Remember Rule 1.


 * What to do with the mention of Lilith, I cannot say. I personally feel that a post-Series 2 placement, acknowledging Lilith as a continuity error, makes the most sense, at least as far as the main namespace is concerned. (The Theory: timelines are an area somewhat outside my remit.) But it could go either way and deserves further discussion. Post-Series 4, though — no. Just… no. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 22:35, 30 March 2023 (UTC)


 * As I've moved on, I've somewhat accepted the post-series 3 placement on the justification that the comic ends with the Doctor directly saying I am ready for a new companion. If you think about it, this does not make sense directly before his arc with Martha, but does work a lot better pre-Donna. So I think immediately pre-series 4 actually has a lot of advantages with the over-all story. OS25🤙☎️ 22:41, 30 March 2023 (UTC)