Theory talk:Timeline - The Doctor

Fugitive Doctor placement
What, exactly, is currently stopping the Fugitive Doctor from being placed as a pre-Hartnell incarnation in this timeline? The Thirteenth Doctor herself seemed to agree that "Ruth" could only be from her past, and the fact she still remembers her after their first meeting also rules out her being in her future, right? So what gives? WaltK ☎  23:47, June 9, 2020 (UTC)


 * Most likely because her TARDIS looked like a police box, and the chameleon circuit didn't get stuck like that until An Unearthly Child. Probably just a continuity error, but still probably best to wait until the Timeless Child arc is over before placing her anywhere. LauraBatham ☎  04:38, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Fugitive Doctor should definitely be pre-Hartnell
In, once upon time, the doctor mentioned the fugitive doctor as being part of her memories that were stolen. Karvanista was also a companion of the fugitive doctor and it is stated that he knew the doctor pre-hartnell.

Swarm and Azure also know the doctor from before her mind was wiped. The fugitive doctor is shown to be the incarnation that they knew. Finally, the fugitive doctor works for the division which the doctor worked for pre-hartnell.

It seems pretty clear that fugitive is meant to be pre-hartnell, so why is she listed as having an unkown placement?


 * You're not wrong. She is pre-Hartnell.
 * Issue is, when exactly is pre-Hartnell? That's like saying a story is post-Tom Baker. Doesn't really narrow it down, does it? 📯 📂 20:33, 8 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Yeah whilst she is Pre-Hartnell for sure (S6B theory is dead in the water and has been since 2020). It's unclear where exactly she is placed relative to the other Pre-Hartnell incarnations (The Other and the Morbius Doctors). Closest we have is 'The 14* Doctors' from DWM 584 but that's still speculative. IRegisteredForTimelines ☎  00:37, 16 December 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm going to add here that I reverted the change to place the Fugitive Doctor after the Morbius Doctors as in spite of the 100,000 BC Feature in the most recent DWM. The textual evidence more clearly supports a pre-Morbius placement with the Brain of Morbius itself depicting the 8 Morbius incarnations as directly preceding Hartnell and Cold Fusion contradicting the 100,000 BC feature by implying one of the Morbius Incarnations (Patience's Husband) was the iteration of the Doctor that was 'A pioneer amongst his people'. An event placed post-Fugitive in 100,000 BC in spite of the same feature placing the Morbius Doctors before her. Adding also that the 14* Doctors feature contradicts the 100,000 BC feature and we have no reason to favour one over the other other than the evidence present in actual DWU stories itself. IRegisteredForTimelines ☎  11:31, 22 November 2023 (UTC)