Talk:Companion

'Unpopular companions'
I removed a line from the Behind the Scenes section in which it was claimed that Tegan was one of the most unpopular companions. Aside from the fact I have never heard this anywhere else (she may not be in the same league as Rose Tyler but I don't see her being ranked down with Adric), it was a rather irrevelant comment more suitable for the article on the character, if anywhere (and presumably with some sort of attribution). The BTS section in general contains supposition and unsourced claims, as is part and parcel of most articles on the wiki, but I just felt that POV statement regarding Tegan didn't fit. 23skidoo 18:20, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think "most unpopular companion" is something that is down to individuals, and should not be noted in the article. Jack's the man - 18:26, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * seconded. --Stardizzy2 19:47, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * if I could put that down it would be biuas I third that. --Catkind121 09:23, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Companion Status
What about Lady Christina de Souza? DuduDoctor 08:53, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

As she is a part of the 2009 Specials, she is consider to be one off if I remember correctly, but dont quote me on thatBigshowbower 09:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

But Astrid Peth was also like Lady Christina, so why is she in the list?DuduDoctor 10:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The lack of solid definition always makes difficult discussions of who is and isn't a companion. However, Astrid does have a stronger narrative claim than Christina, in that the Doctor asked her to be one, and she accepted. Christina was explicitly denied entry to the TARDIS. In fact, Astrid seems more a companion to me than Grace, who largely gets on these lists because she's the only likely candidate from the Eighth Doctor's lone televised appearance.  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍ 14:14, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Christina da Souza belongs. the press did promote her as the Doctor's companion in the special. also, the Wiki has listed her as a companion of the Tenth Doctor elsewhere. --Stardizzy2 00:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Grace also qualifies because she is explicitly invited, but declines. That places her in the same category as Donna Noble as of The Runaway Bride. And of course the "must travel in the TARDIS" rule would actually disqualify Liz Shaw while strengthening Grace's case. The one that's tricky (even though I suggest he be included in the thread below) is Jackson Lake because technically the Doctor was his companion, rather than the other way around. Heck, the Doctor even got to ride in Jackson's TARDIS! 23skidoo 04:22, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Even by the loosest standards I don't see any argument for claiming Adelade was a companion. She was no more a companion that the hundreds of major characters who helped the Doctor out over the years. I think the only reason folks like Adelade, Astrid, Jackson, etc.. are even considered as companions is because the Doctor wasn't traveling with anybody at the time. There would be no discussion if the Doctor ran into these types of people with a companion already in tow.


 * The "problem" with Astrid etc. is that some companions are officially named companions by the BBC whereas others (like Sara Kingdom) are "only" considered companions by fans. My personal opinion is that a person does not have to travel with the Doctor in his TARDIS to be qualified as a companion but must have a major role to play in one of his adventures by, for instance, filling the traditional role of a companion, that is, giving the Doctor a stand-in for the audience who he explains the situation to. I guess, in the end, it's all a matter of popularity: who cares about Adam Mitchell or Lynda Moss? One is an official companion who might as well never have joined the Ninth Doctor and the other one is a would-be-companion who no-one remembers because the Doctor already had Rose and Jack with him. EltharionDrax 16:34, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Jackson Lake missing from Companion image
Since the infobox image of the companions includes the one-time companions, then Jackson Lake needs to be included as well. 23skidoo 04:18, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

I agree, and Rosita should be too. Also on an unrelated subject, Astrid, Christina, Adelaide and Wilf don't travel with the Doctor and are in the image, yet the Brig, Benton, Mike Yates and Jackie Tyler aren't.I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! Bigredrabbit 07:43, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, the companion montage thing is way over the top. It's trying to be complete without realizing that it can't be complete.  This article should be about companions, regardless of medium, so the image is missing easily 20 people.   Where are the comics companions?   Why is Sara Kingdom there?  Why isn't, as is said above, Jackson there when Adelaide is?  Where's the Brig?  Where's Destrii?  Where's Izzy (the record-holder for most time served in a visual medium)?


 * We could ask these questions all day. I think ultimately this thing needs to be changed to something much simpler so that it doesn't look like we're trying to be completists and therefore invite all these questions.  I say make it Susan, Sarah Jane, Jamie and Izzy. (The first companion alongside three companions who have a claim to the title "longest serving", by virtue of different criteria.)  Again, just don't make it look like we're trying to be complete, because we can't be.

River Song, Companion of the Tenth Doctor?
I find it strange that River Song is not listed among the Tenth Doctors companions, as she is arguably more important to the Doctor than his other one-off companions, something that her posessing his Sonic Screwdriver and knowing his real name proves. One might argue that she did not travel with the Tenth Doctor, but neither did a handful of other people that are considered companions. Please add arguments against naming her a companion of the Tenth Doctor. EltharionDrax 16:21, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Romantic feelings for Amy?
Under relationships "In series 5 there are hints that even though she is married the Eleventh Doctor has feelings of this sort for Amy Pond, although the producers are yet to confirm this." This line is just all wrong. Maybe it was written before series 5 started (or at least before it finished)? So far he has been not been shown to have romantic interest in her, has in fact rejected her overtures. And she's engaged, not married, until the end. Even if this actually meant for series 6, the first part still stands. Don't want to step on anyone's toes, though, by just deleting it, in case in a conflation of two sentences or something that meatn soemthing different and somehow ended up edited this way. Or there's something behind the scenes that backs up this statement, because I generally stay away from the behind-the-scenes stuff so as not to be spoiled for upcoming storylines.216.226.176.142 20:07, July 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Removed this bit, since no one commented on it. 216.226.176.142 17:52, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Remember to maintain in-universe style
Don't forget that the Style Guide mandates that unless an article is designated a "Real World" article, anything that is not under the header "Behind the Scenes" has to be written as if it's a history of real events. I just went through portions of this article to remove "out of universe" material, in particular I had to move the entire "Non-platonic relationships" section (which I think may have originated in another article) down to Behind the Scenes as it was all about production. I also deleted the speculation line about "feelings for Amy" my fellow anon above was concerned about. It didn't belong there was it was not based on any on-screen evidence. 68.146.81.123 03:59, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Definition?
...So what is precisely the definition of a 'companion'? Is it someone who travels with the Doctor, or does it include people who have merely shared an adventure with the Doctor? -- Bold  Clone  21:47, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Kazran/Abigail Front Page Photo
Abigail and Kazran are classified as companions of the Eleventh Doctor, but they don't appear in the line-up. Is there reason behind this? Void Dreamer 23:55, December 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Possibly because the exact nature of their companionship is unclear (all the Doctor did was visit them once a year and take them someplace). They weren't full-time companions, nor were they one-off; they were more like 'occaisional' companions.
 * A new picture (or new version of the picture) needs to be made. -- Bold  Clone  23:15, December 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * As I said above, it's pointless to try to keep this photo "current" or "complete", because both goals are actually impossible. It needs to be pared way back to four representative companions.