Howling:River Song in Series 5

I was just looking at the River Song page and noticed a mention of "Crash of the Byzantium" under her time line. Looking at the photos from the start of filming, it certainly looks like the crash of something... Raukodraug 21:10, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Specifically, a ship called the Byzantium. --Golden Monkey 23:49, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * So then if the time line located in her article is correct, then, from her perspective, this will not have been the first time she met the Doctor. --Raukodraug 14:16, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * also thats another trip of the tenth doctor that didn't get shown (unless the meeting was with the 11th looking like the 10th) --Ajax752 20:32, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

72.221.71.209 00:34, October 24, 2009 (UTC)this is a pic from the same location showing a woman who looks like river
 * ah up rive joins the army but when and when does she become a archoligist--Ajax752 20:34, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Has anyone realised that she seems to be wearing handcuffs. Could she be a bad girl when the doctor discovers her??? Michael Downey 12:01, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

She could be the Rani; the Doctor could use a chameleon arch on her (and keep it), creating the River Song identity...with knowledge of the Doctor and Time Lord lore, she'd be less inclined to have the curiosity of John Smith or Professor Yana (with it all being a part of her created identity) just a thought. Either that or his coursthip with River works in reservse (i.e. the first time he meets her is the last time she sees him and as he gets to know her more and more, it gets to be earlier and earlier into their relationship.) - CB

Ahh, so that could be why she called the Tenth Doctor "so young", seeing as the last Doctor she saw looked a lot older (McCoy being in his 40s at the time). Then the Rani sees him again as River Song. Hmmm... interesting...

DoctorWhotheF*** - 18:30 - Nov. 11. '09.

I very much doubt that River Song is the Rani. Its starting to get ridiculous that everyone thinks everyone is someone else. Remember back in the day when people where the same people lol. Bit of sarcasim there Michael Downey 20:29, November 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Seriously, don't we all know that River Song is the 13th incarnation of The Doctor? She can't be The Rani, because The Rani is actually Kamelion, who's really a Raston Warrior Robot refitted with Gundan memory chips by the Brigadier, who's actually a future version of Martha Jones who traveled back into the past after a genetic accident at Torchwood turned her into a white man. None of which has anything to do with the real question, which is whether Wilfred Mott is really a meta-crisis Davros or the reincarnation of Adric. --99.170.146.147 10:55, December 28, 2009 (UTC)


 * See, at least SOMEBODY'S making sense. DoctorWhotheF***
 * See, at least SOMEBODY'S making sense. DoctorWhotheF***

i think you are the only one sir. River is Moffat's creation so he has the can do what he wants with the character in terms of longevity in the series. Geffe71 17:29, December 28, 2009 (UTC)