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Two more points I'd like to add: AeD rightfully said that having a live Voldemort from between books 4 and 7 is not out of question. But on top of that, there is time travel (such as it is) in Potterverse too. With this amount of timey-wimeyness available on both sides, continuity arguments look more and more like unicorns: beautiful but not real.

Second (and this is why I respect TheFartyDoctor for bringing that up even though he didn't think it was relevant), I actually think "Bad Wolf" is relevant to this discussion. It is thin evidence, for sure, but with the general lack of evidence, it is still something.

My question is this: Did "Bad Wolf" occur in LEGO DWU universe? Did it exist there? If it didn't, then this can only be a reference to the real DWU universe (I feel like we should start numbering them, like Marvel does). And this one comes with a predefined explanation: Rose was spreading the words throughout all time and space available. In the absence of an alternative explanation, is it not the only prudent thing to do to conclude that Rose was able to reach the universe the movie is set in?

Also on the intent level, "Bad Wolf" does way more for me than the presence of Daleks. Daleks are trivial in their ubiquity (let Briggs forgive me). Using Daleks as an easily recognisable villain is a no-brainer. But using "Bad Wolf" shows respect for the more intricate lore of the land. It shows attention to details that will most likely be missed by most viewers (even among us, TheFartyDoctor was the only one to bring it up). What I'm saying is that this Easter egg was not made for attracting viewers or boosting box office. The producers did not talk about it, did they? So it seems the only purpose of it being there is to show respect to the parent universe by providing narrative links to DWU (unless once again it did appear in LEGO DWU).

Look at it this way: it was suggested to do a frame-by-frame analysis of the portals in the Phantom Zone to try and discern something recognisable from DWU. Well, "bad wolf" is that something except it already made its way into this universe.