Forum:Series 2 Torchwood episodes set in 2009?

I'm sure Torchwood's chronology is really difficult to 100% reconcile, but what media dates the Torchwood episodes A Day in the Death through Exit Wounds (and by extension, the radio play Lost Souls) to 2009, rather than 2008, or even just "some ambiguous point that could be in 2008 or 2009 but certainly before The Stolen Earth"?

I notice on SkyPoint's page, it mentions that that post-Something Borrowed novel is set in September, and yet the pre-Something Borrowed novel Pack Animals novel is set in October. Of course, neither of those would put Something Borrowed in the first quarter of 2009, so I'm not sure if that has anything to do with that.

There's been discussion on the Howling on this before, but it doesn't really state why they came to their seemingly varied conclusions. -- Tybort (talk page) 01:16, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

I think my main gripe is how to reconcile Fragments as 21 months after Ianto joins (sometime after the Battle of Canary Wharf), and Exit Wounds as 107 years after 1901. -- Tybort (talk page) 01:41, August 1, 2012 (UTC) Warning: It is explicitly against T:SPOIL FORUM to link to the Howling from the forum namespace. You can't require people to go to a spoiler area in order to fully understand your meaning here. Obviously, the linked thread is no longer much of a spoiler, so you're not getting blocked. But Howling discussions are completely irrelevant to the editing of articles here. Even if threads there appear to come to some sort of conclusion or consensus, their discussions are entirely non-binding.

The Howling is merely a place we provide in order to allow people to talk without having to be bound by our spoiler policy. Forcing someone to go that spoilery area to understand a discussion in the "proper" forums defeats the purpose of the Howling being walled off in its own namespace.

Please abide by policy and do not link to the Howling again. 08:16: Wed 01 Aug 2012


 * I'm so sorry about that. I meant REFERENCE DESK. I was really tired when I wrote that. -- Tybort (talk page) 10:45, August 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * And I don't think it's required reading, even if it WAS on the Howling (which it's not; I goofed up on my terminology). I'm just saying there was talk on this before. -- Tybort (talk page) 23:10, August 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Lost Souls, by the way, has to be set in 2008, not 2009 - specifically it's broadcast date of 10 September 2008 - because it's set on the day the Large Hadron Collider was activated. That would retroactively place all of series 2 before that date as well.


 * DWU history isn't real-world history (do you remember when a harpoon missile hit Downing Street, or when all the children stated "we are coming", or when that replica of the Titanic almost hit Buckingham Palace?), so we can't solidly use "Lost Souls's airdate coincided with the real world LHC activation" as proper confirmation for series 2 taking place in 2008. I'm just wondering if there's anything that positively puts A Day in the Death through Exit Wounds in 2009 (and I suppose by extension, Reset and Dead Man Walking at the very end of 2008). -- Tybort (talk page) 18:13, August 11, 2012 (UTC)