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Kamishi, Tengobushi, Sanukuma, or Nothing Is Easy
Hi, I'm sorry to be working over you. Believe me, I know how it sometimes feel. But, as typical of Doctor Who, nothing is easy or is what it seems.

I do not know if you've listened to The Diary of River Song, Series 1. It is closely connected to what I'm gonna say. Both box sets feature the same species of all-powerful beings from the beginning of time. As they are a big reveal every time, they are not present in any promotional materials so far.

It happened with the Diary that Sanukuma were taken to be a species (you can read my comments on the talk page there). But they are just one of the castes of Kamishi. Similarly, Tengobushi is another caste. A third caste is mentioned by name in one of the stories of UNIT: Shutdown, but no information was provided about it. Kamishi are said to have a complicated hierarchy of castes and chapters. So we cannot assume anything. My main message to you is: this is not simple. I myself am not editing these pages (other than correcting mistakes) for two reasons: I need to relisten to make sure that my edits are correct. This is all intricate stuff. Secondly, the spelling of Kamishi has never been confirmed by the production team. I'm still hoping they will do it. This is the reason why the page Kamishi has not been created yet: it could be Camishi.

Anyway, I wish you all the luck, am sorry if my edits made you feel bad. But things on this Wiki should at least be correct. God knows, they are incomplete. But correctness is the minimum I strive for. Amorkuz ☎  23:27, July 10, 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm glad I haven't ruffled your feathers earlier. I'm sorry to say that you've created some extra work for me though, work I would have preferred to do at the time of my choosing rather than now. I'm sure you didn't mean it, so let me try to explain what happened to avoid such clashes in the future.


 * Disclaimer, I am not an admin, so this is my personal complaint rather than an official reprimand. If you feel that I'm being unfair, you can always ask an admin to check it out.


 * You had an alternative proposal from mine, which is totally fine, and I would be happy to work together with you. But you acted on your proposal before waiting for my response. While creating new pages is generally a good idea, it would be good if this really helps other editors without creating extra work for them. In this case, Sanukuma had all the info on Kamishi from the Diary, not on Sanukuma. In other words, the information on Sanukuma was missing and the information on Kamishi from UNIT was missing. After you created a page for Kamishi, information on Sanukuma is still missing on the Sanukuma page, information from Kamishi from the UNIT is still missing. But, in addition, information about Kamishi from the Diary is missing on the Kamishi page. So, in a sense, this created more work. And this is why I complain. Note also that the talk page of Sanukuma and the history of changes to Sanukuma, which both were always more about Kamishi than Sanukuma, will not now be ported to the page about Kamishi. This is one of the reasons why I thought moving Sanukuma to Kamishi was the best choice. Again, I may have been wrong, and would have been happy to discuss this with you, if you only waited for my response.


 * Just to let you know, another situation where creating a new page without listening to the audio may create extra work for other users, including admins, is when the online cast only mentions one name of a character but the audio provides his/her full name, first and last. T:CHAR NAMES states that the page should be named by the first and last name, and moves are only allowed by admins. I can cite several examples from the new series Bex was created and then was moved to Rebecca Young, Kevin (Technophobia) was created and then moved to Kevin Jones based on the text of the audio. This involves changing all the links to the old page, after which an admin has to move the page, which is a work that can be avoided easily by listening to the audio.


 * Thus, I would appreciate it if, in the future, in case another editor is clearly involved in something you're planning to edit, to try and ask for their opinion first instead of acting unilaterally. It helps avoid conflicts. Plus I've been humbled many times when other more experienced editors explained to me their reasoning. It is truly my experience on this Wiki that people mostly do things for a reason. If we do not understand this reason, it always pays to ask before acting. Amorkuz ☎  09:55, July 11, 2016 (UTC)