User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-4028641-20151008023030/@comment-30325516-20191108125930

I wasn’t saying he wouldn’t count, I was saying that I consider him to be Beevers in a stolen body, but there’s no in-Universe evidence to say Tipple as a Master, whether a regeneration or a stolen body actually exists or if he’s Ainley or another incarnation we know of. So we’re on the same page about it.

And yeah, I agree that the Eight Doctors (assuming that’s what you meant rather than Two Masters which involves Pre-Deadly Assassin Beevers and Macqueen) should go in the Ainley section.

Post-Survival should go something like this:

"According to one account the Master was driven insane by his experience on the Cheetah Planet and sought revenge on the Doctor. He acquired a Deathworm Morphant and made his way to Skaro where he was put on trial by the Daleks and subsequently executed" (PROSE: The Eight Doctors (novel), The Novel of the Film)

"According to another account, the Master lived signficantly longer following his escape from the Cheetah Planet, instead seeking ways to prolong his life and cure himself from the Cheetah virus. He had many more encounters with the Doctor and Ace. Etc etc'' (The PDAs and any other Post Survival Ainley story that doesn’t fit with the EDAs or VNAs)

"One account suggests that the Master was transported to Earth immediatley after escaping the cheetah planet and was stranded. He later made a deal with the Tzun and had his Trakenite body transformed into a Time Lord one using Tzun nanites. He was then killed by Ace and regenerated into a new body. (PROSE: First Frontier''

Then we have the Tzun Master section that recounts the rest of First Frontier, Housewarming and Happy Endings. After that we have a section for "John Smith", which again says "According to one account the Master lost his Trakenite body to the warp core etc".

Which is pretty much how the article is already set out, but there’s some bits that could probably be improved especially as there’s a whole bit that says “either this happened or that happened after Survival” which could probably be removed entirely.

It’s particularly important that we make sure the information we present on the page is accurate too, as the Happy Endings entry says that the Tzun Nanites fail, which as we’ve established doesn’t happen at all.