Howling:Addition to the Doctor's age confusion

One key factor to his age seems to have been overlooked. At the time of the first doctor's death he was hundreds of years old, and this suggests to me that a Timelord can live for a very long time without needing to regenerate, that a single Timelord lifetime can last for centuries before regeneration actually becomes a requirement.

(This is substantiated by the Master using the laser screwdriver to age the Doctor by "all nine hundred years" of his life, whereas if he is already at least 900 then he should have already reached his limit, and by the fourth Doctor judgmentally pointing out that Timelords live for thousands of years in The Deadly Assassin.)

Bearing this fact in mind, I remind you of the fact that the Seventh Doctor, in the opening to the Doctor Who movie, stated that he was "nearing the end" of his seventh life. Considering that his life usually gets cut short by the dangers posed by his adventures, it seems logical that if he could live out a full lifetime without getting killed, he should be able to live just as long as the original doctor.

So this means that if we include every previous claim of his age up to 1012, he still has to have lived for well over 200 extra years. Even if we assume he was in his 900's during his 6'th life he has to be at least 1100-and-something by now. So although his exact age is still undetermined, I think it is safe to say that he has definitely been lying about his age, as even the "not counting his time on Galifrey" argument fails to account for this discrepency.

Thanks for listening, hope you enjoyed. :)

DWfan

I always assumed it was him looking back on it retrospectively, and his voice was being used to mask the surprise of who the regeneration would be. In reality, of course, why would he be monologuing? Besides, I think some novels inferred the other incarnations lived on in some way inside the head of the next one, so he could have been speaking from there. However, I haven't seen the movie in some time, so if someone points out it is Doc8's voice, that still solves the problem; he's looking back on it as his last days :) Cannon881 16:55, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it was Doc 8 monologing over the scene of Doc 7 in the tardis relaxing before being killed, but he clearly said he was nearing the end of his seventh life. Now while this could suggest that he is acknowledging that he is about to get killed by the gunfire, it seems very clear from his tone and the way he said it that he meant he was reaching the end of the seventh lifespan.

Either way, the fact that Doc 7 looks noticeably much older clearly indicates that n indeterminate amount of extra time had passed, thus still raising his potential age above the current estimate.

DWfan

I read an interview with Steven Moffat in Doctor Who Magazine, where he says that in his mind the Doctor has no idea of his exact age. Can't remember the issue number. -- Noneofyourbusiness 16:26, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

That's more likely. Travelling in time must be pretty confusing for things like age! Jim393 18:25, January 26, 2010 (UTC)