User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-31010985-20191101112654/@comment-31010985-20191210041932

Um, okay? Surely validity is determined by appearances to some extent, though.

An appearance is indicative of rules 2 and 4 being passed. Just to give an example, if the Hulk appeared in a story by himself the story wouldn't be valid because the story was not intended to be set in the DWU. Would you agree that if a DWU character does not appear that is indicative or even confirmation that a story fails rule 4. Similarly, if the appearance of a character isn't liscened, that is indicative of a rule 2 failiure and vice versa.

The point I and others have made is the appearance of the Doctor's family is more indicative that these stories were intended to be set in the DWU than if they didn't and instead featured Walter the Worm. It was hardly a mistake merely common sense.

Aside from that, what was the point of listing those stories, they're really bad examples. Was it just that there are some things that feature the Doctor aren't valid? If so, you just could have listed any one of the thousands of fanfictions on the internet. That list of "stories" includes fourth-wall breaking stories, deleted scenes, and even one thing we have deemed not worthy of the moniker "story". The only useful point I can get from it is that Tardis:Valid sources being composed of only "Validity is not determined by appearances" is a bad idea but that has never, and will never happen.