User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Tales from the Tardis/@comment-188432-20140327234318/@comment-5215868-20140402012116

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Tales from the Tardis/@comment-188432-20140327234318/@comment-5215868-20140402012116 Clara Listensprechen wrote: MasterPWN, the Doctor confessed his love for River Song when he admitted that she didn't fade after her death. It's not just the way he saved River to the library computer but the way they parted at his gravesite. The Doctor's clone with Rose was basically Rose's just desserts after being so disloyal to Mickey. Why would the Doctor be attracted to such a person? I can't think of a single reason.

Have you watched any if season 1-4? Do you even know what you just said? Rose and the Doctor had a beautiful dynamic in the way no other had. Yeah, the Doctor cared for River, but not in the way he loved Rose... Sweet baby Rassillon, this is going to start a ship war. Not working, the poll isn't sensible anyways. Moffat's too much of a happy ending fairy tale writer in nearly depthless characters and RTD's got the characters and if you put them together they might be unstoppable but you can't grind an ax with a piece of wood so we should all shut up and mind our own business because internet arguments always end in failure for both sides.

Editing this in.

Ok. Let me tell you reasons the Doctor loved for Rose, just so you'll be able to think of a few good reasons next time this subject is brought up.

She was actually a really good person. She really was. Take the episode "Dalek" for example. Despite the fact that the Dalek winds up killing nearly 200 people, Rose still pities and feel compassion towards the creature, who she changed with just a touch, that is sitting so helplessly before her when the Doctor wants to blow the monstrosity to oblivion. If that were me, I would've stood back and let the now very vengeful, angry, Un-Doctor-like Doctor blast it to smithereens. This is the main reason the Doctor loved her and how she healed the man suffering from post-traumatic stress from being the only survivor of the most terrible war in the history of the universe.

She both bettered the Doctor and herself. About halfway through season 1, you see her character becoming stronger and more independent. This is also something the Doctor needed to heal, someone to lean on.

She was unswervingly loyal and, got to give credit where it is due, she always gets credit for effort by the time Tennant's Doctor comes about, even if her merits were not entirely successful, or even if they failed.

(Now I don't see we're you get "selfish" from, maybe how she treated Mickey, and I can see how you don't like that. I didn't like how he was treated, even if he was a bit of a coward at the start, he didn't deserve it. I loved to see his character growth however.)

Now here are some ways we can tell the Doctor loved Rose:

He DIED for Rose. He gave up a whole regeneration for her. He sacrificed himself for her. This kind of sacrifice, we've only seen it once before. It is a rare thing. He knew he was running low on regeneration energy, and he gave that up for her.

His absolute fury in the episode "Idiot's Lantern" when he sees what has happened to Rose. His overall protectiveness of her.

The episode "The Satan Pit" how the power in the words he wish he could tell Rose just cannot be conveyed by Ida, but he still admitted it to himself. How he said "If there's one thing I believe in, I believe in her." Something never actually heard from the Doctor before.

The closure he need after she was lost in the parallel universe. He could've just left it, another lost companion, and forgotten it. No, he has to go and check, has to say goodbye. And she's the only companion he's mentioned so much afterwards. During his time with Martha, Donna, we even see he's still thinking about her in season 6!

How so, so, glad he was to see her again when she came back through the "dimension cannon" to find him again. And how he tried to leave her something, (that something being the meta-crisis) instead of just banishing the meta-crisis away into an event horizon or something for committing genocide which he probably would've done if Rose never got separated from him.

I could keep going, but I think I've said my fair share.