Howling:The cybermen debate

just transphering the latter part of this conversation from the panopticon to here, as this is more the place for this sort of debate http://tardis.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:The_Unspecified_Cyberman_Debate&t=20111221075156. Imamadmad talk to me 11:53, December 21, 2011 (UTC)