Forum:Is in-character linking narration canonical?

So yanno how BBC Video used to release incomplete serials with linking narration to cover the lost episodes? Sometimes, that used an actor who wasn't in character providing the narration, as with Tom Baker on Shada. But The Crusade release has William Russell fully in character as Ian Chesterton. They even give him a lower third which reads, "Ian Chesterton". So is that a valid image of Ian? And if so, doesn't it counter the Death of the Doctor notion that Ian never aged? And to the extent that there are other in-character linking narrations, do we take them seriously? 21:43:52 Thu 18 Aug 2011


 * It's something outside of the original broadcast.
 * Should we include/count the linking narration done for the missing soundtracks?
 * I don't think it does count as it's deliberately framed as narration, I'd add a however this though, if a story comes along and (somehow) manages to frame it into a story then maybe it could be counted. But as it stands there doesn't seem to be enough information for this to be a valid image. --Tangerineduel / talk 16:29, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Just sticking to The Crusade for a minute, the thing is, that's a very different reconstruction to either Baker on Shada or Ford on Reign of Terror or Anneke Wills giving linking narration for Power of the Daleks on CD. Unlike these other cases, it's done as a scene with the character of Ian, not with the actor.  It is Ian looking back on his life and remembering the story of how he got knighted by King Richard.  It's released by the BBC, the tape's producers took the time to create a properly dressed and realistic set, and there's proper multiple-shot editing.  It's in every sense a licensed narrative, and it does connect to the broader canon by confirming things that happened in other media.  For instance, he references PDA: The Witch Hunters, which was, at the time The Crusade VHS was released in 1999, the very latest story involving Ian.  It just seems like there was a genuine effort to make the piece fit into continuity.  04:11:34 Mon 22 Aug 2011


 * Okay.
 * How do we classify this? Is it still DW? Prefix wise I mean, and is there anything else that fits into this category?
 * Are the in-universe DVD documentaries in a similar field?
 * As it does tie in with The Witch Hunters and obviously The Crusade, then I would be leaning toward it being canon.
 * But I am concerned about what other stuff is lurking out there that might also fall into this category. Or might fall just outside of this category but may be included within it because it's close. --Tangerineduel / talk 13:54, August 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I think it's a special case so it kinda deserves special rules. I only have two examples that spring readily to mind.  One is this Crusade thing.  The other is the Fourth Doctor version of Power of the Daleks.  I think I'd be okay with references to them both being the company that produced the thing they were on.  So for instance BBC Video: The Crusade.  The problem here is, of course, that these little segments have no name.  The only distinguishing characteristic is really the medium/company of release.  22:43:14 Mon 22 Aug 2011

If BBC Wales says it's valid, then it's canon. That's a lot clearer than vague references to CURSE OF THE FATAL DEATH as a dream. Boblipton 22:44, August 22, 2011 (UTC)