User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-27280472-20160606210324/@comment-20607870-20161128223820

Fwhiffahder wrote: DENCH-and-PALMER wrote: I do however find it very rude when people don't answer the question straight away and just start with "There is no canon" maybe not here, but if there was no canon then everything would be valid - just another word for another.

That's not true. This wiki's validity policy is completely unconnected to "canon," which doesn't exist at all. Validity decides what narratives can have articles here and in what way.

DENCH-and-PALMER wrote:

And by the way. We didn't actually see Seven die.

I know, and I absolutely agree with you. Ideally, DCtT shouldn't be considered NOTVALID or another universe, but the previous inclusion debate decided that he did die in DCtT, and that therefore it deliberately contradicts the movie, and that therefore it has deliberately separated itself from the "proper" universe. So it doesn't make any difference to argue about it anymore. This thread is only about whether it should be considered "another universe" or NOTVALID.

I agree but I don't think that we should say definitely that Seven died, one because we didn't see it.

And two I don't think fans have the right to decide whether a character has died if we haven't seen it.