Talk:2150s Dalek invasion of Earth

Rename
The Daleks invade not just Earth but blockade the solar system. Earth is named in the introduction, but I don't think it would make the article more accurate by adding it into the title. --Tangerineduel / talk 13:02, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Proposal to rename and divide the two invasions
To avoid confusion with the Dalek Invasion from Lucie Miller, I propose this be renamed "22nd century Dalek invasion (The Dalek Invasion of Earth)" and another page being created, titled "22nd century Dalek invasion (Lucie Miller)". Toy  Story   Fan  17:29, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Rather than adding dab terms, how about 2150s Dalek invasion of Earth and 2180s Dalek invasion of Earth? The structure better mirrors other pages like Dalek invasion of Mars (which should really be 2150s Dalek invasion of Mars, natch), and "2150s Dalek invasion" has a pleasing parallelism with Daleks' Invasion Earth 2150 A.D.. – n8 (☎) 17:55, 21 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that works. Toy   Story   Fan  12:04, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

We might as well use this oppurtunity to standarise the format of all the Dalek invasion pages. I plan to create a page for the 2060s Dalek invasion in the near future which will necessitate a rename to 21st century Dalek invasion whatever is decided here. Do we want to use decades in the titles of 23rd century Dalek invasion and 25th century Dalek invasion as well? Borisashton ☎  23:26, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * While we're doing this, could we make including "of [Place]" in the titles a general rule? Literally everybody knows the 2150s Dalek invasion as, well, "the Dalek Invasion of Earth".


 * And on a factual level, the Daleks' invasion of, say, Alvega, also took place in the 2060s, so we're probably going to have to do 2060s Dalek invasion of Earth, or maybe "of the Solar System", rather than just "[060s Dalek invasion". So if we're trying to be consistent, it would both be logical, and in accordance with reader expectations, to do the same to the 2150s one and more besides. Scrooge MacDuck ☎  23:42, 23 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I agree standardising Dalek invasion page names would be a good idea. I was wondering if we should better work out the term "First Dalek War" while we're at it. We could rename this page to that instead, though, as raised above, everyone knows this better as the "Dalek invasion". Personally, I think it makes more sense to give First Dalek War be given its own page to denote a wider conflict; the Earth and Mars invasions could be listed as "Part of: First Dalek War".


 * That then raises the further issue of "First Dalek War" also being used in the Planet novelisation to refer to the period of the Thal-Dalek War at the time of the Thal-Dalek battle. Is it worth creating two different FDW pages? TheCoud&#39;veBeenKing ☎  11:52, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Aye, in my view, the existence of another conflict called the First Dalek War is enough to make the name unsuitable for this page (although a dabbed redirect a First Dalek War (The Dalek Invasion of Earth) should probably be created).


 * An unrelated problem does occur to me, while we're talking T:NPOV, however: both Genesis of the Daleks and Doctor Who and the Crusaders date the invasion to the 21st century instead of the 22nd. The Genesis instance is just something the Fourth Doctor says, so we could plausibly argue he simply misspoke, but no such luck with the Crusaders instance, which is given by the omniscient third-person narrator.

"Susan had gone, left behind in an England all but destroyed in the twenty-first century when the Daleks had attempted the conquest of Earth, an invasion only just foiled by the Doctor."

- Doctor Who and the Crusaders


 * I'm unsure how to deal with this. First Dalek invasion of Earth would be conjectural, and potentially confusing because while it takes place later in the Daleks timeline, the Stolen Earth Dalek invasion does take place earlier from Earth's perspective. Scrooge MacDuck ☎  13:16, 9 April 2021 (UTC)