User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-24894325-20161219001033/@comment-24894325-20161219070734

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-24894325-20161219001033/@comment-24894325-20161219070734 Yes, exactly, it's all because we're trying to responsibly follow the BF's definitions of ranges, while BF irresponsibly plays fast and loose with them. The Third Doctor Adventures have not been separated as a range by BF (yet!), but clearly deserve their navbox as a 3D flagship akin to 4DA (it should also be mentioned that the second boxset has only recently been released).

The way I see it, The Collected 10th Doctor and The Collected War Doctor are different from all the other collected ranges. The other collected ranges were created for ease of navigation postfactum, after the standard ranges such as The Companion Chronicles have been well established. With the 10th and War Doctor releases, the collected ranges have been used from the very beginning and their presence prevents BF from seriously thinking about the new ranges: the collected 10th Doctor already includes more or less the 10th Doctor Adventures, and the collected War Doctor includes exactly the War Doctor boxsets, so why think of a separate name for a range? I think the navboxes for them should be modeled on the 4th Doctor and 8th Doctor Adventures (although the War Doctor one will eventually include an Eighth Doctor boxset).

I have no idea why BF treats The Churchill Years and Classic Doctors, New Monsters differently from The Diary of River Song, given that they have identical release patterns so far (one box released, one announced) and that all three are sold as one bundle. So I would be happy to abandon the current transitional mess completely and make navboxes based on common topics rather than range designations. We already have a precedent: though Dark Eyes has eventually become a range separate from the Eighth Doctor Adventures and Doom Coalition has always been its own range (if memory serves), both are added to the Template:EDA because there is a clear linear time progression for the Eighth Doctor.

And the OncomingStorm12th's comparison with the classic series ranges is exactly the reason I think the consolidated navbox will need to be split eventually. We have at least two new-series ranges with 4 or 5 announced boxsets each. Having them as a subnavbox is really bad for navigation.