Talk:New Earth (New Earth)

New Earth chrnology doesn't fit into classic series' view of "future history"
Article previously said:
 * When the last humans left the planet Earth, bound for planets such as Refusis II and Frontios. (TV: The Ark/Frontios''). Humanity was spread across the stars. A revival movement was organised so that humanity could settle on a planet which was very similiar to their orginal world.

I removed, because there's absolutely no connection between Frontios, The Ark and "New Earth". They are three apparently contradictory "end-of-humanity" stories. The people on the Ark believed they were the last humans, but they weren't. They're from "10 million years in the future", according to the First Doctor. In other words, they're 10 million years in advance of where they were last — the mid 1960s. Nowhere close to the year 5 billion.

Frontios is harder to date. There's nothing specific in the script to tie us to a year. However, we do have the Doctor saying the TARDIS has drifted "too far into the future". Makes absolutely no sense that this would be the same time period as "The Ark", despite what the Discontinuity Guide/Official website says. The year 10 million is a dawdle for the TARDIS. Hell, the Ninth Doctor offers the year 5 billion to Rose just because his ego's been bruised. Hardly the edge of time. In order to get a warning from the TARDIS of "time parameters exceeded", you'd have to be somewhere closer to 5 trillion, at least, given "Utopia"'s statement that the year 100 trillion is further than the Time Lords ever came.

So you might be able to argue a case that "Frontios" is possible to put into the new series' view of future history, but not The Ark. "The End of the World"" simply contradicts and disregards The Ark. Even so, Frontios is more relevant to the article about Malcassairo than New Earth.   Still, it'd be hard to put Frontios' description of the precise moment of Sol supernova into line with "The End of the World".   I mean, we saw the sun go nova.  So where was the space ship referred to in Frontios?  Nowhere, because RTD's description of the end of Earth doesn't jive with Bidmead's.  Bidmead tells of a last-ditch effort to leave the Earth before the sun went nova. "The End of the World" says that all the Humans left in a quite orderly fashion well prior  to the explosion of the sun.  They even had time to set up a trust and an elaborate system of shifting the continents.  RTD's "last humans" were hardly in a lather about the nova.      Czech Out   ☎ | ✍  06:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Tagging error?
When did the Eleventh Doctor visit New Earth? Mugen Kagemaru 05:49, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Good catch! It appears to have come from the game Worlds in Time, which violates Tardis:Canon policy and therefore cannot be used for in-universe articles. I removed the category and the appearance. Shambala108 ☎  06:06, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

Slight rename
"This topic might have a better name. This page should be at New Earth considering it has appeared extensively in around a dozen sources compared to other New Earths that have appeared only once. This surely should be the primary topic." - For the record, I fully agree. The name as it is now is just clumsily done. — Fractal Doctor @  13:04, 23 August 2023 (UTC)