User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-27280472-20160208162907/@comment-27280472-20160208220013

PicassoAndPringles wrote: For our own sanity, we can't have every crossover make two worlds into one. Assimilation² doesn't mean the Star Trek and Doctor Who wikis merge. The TARDIS visiting the Baxter Building in Death's Head doesn't mean we include the Fantastic Four here. The Confessions of Dorian Gray isn't another world. It's very clear that the same character appears in The Worlds of Big Finish, Shades of Gray, and The Confessions of Dorian Gray. Not in some sort of inter-dimensional crossover. Dorian's universe is the same one as Benny lives in, and consequently that of Doctor Who. PicassoAndPringles wrote: You have to really stretch to apply rule four to this situation. BF's marketing language in general is inconsistent, but in this case it's pretty clear that in no way are Dorian Gray or Sherlock Holmes related to Doctor Who. Given that these two are public domain, we should be extra careful to only include what's relevant to Who. One (or two) crossovers isn't enough to merit wholesale inclusion. On the contrary. It's pretty clear that Dorian Gray and Sherlock Holmes ARE related to Doctor Who, because they appear in the context of other characters in the same universe as Doctor Who. Where this wiki's Dorian Gray page says "However, that series is not considered by Big Finish to be in the Doctor Who universe," it's factually wrong. Maybe "Doctor Who universe" is a misnomer — it's the same universe as Doctor Who, but it's not directly connected. The Sherlock Holmes page happily uses information about Briggs's version of the character, but gives an arbitrarily limited view. PicassoAndPringles wrote: Sometimes, a crossover is just a crossover. What does that even mean? A crossover isn't a meaningful concept from an in-universe point of view.