Forum:The Cybus Cybermen vs Mondas Cybermen Debate in "the Blood of the Cybermen"

Why are all the articles written as if it's confirmed that the Cybermen in TBOTC are Mondas Cybermen? It is perfectly reasonable that the Cybus Cybermen changed their logo, considering that it was a commercial logo...especially when they said that Amy would begin a new race of Cybermen...

There's a Cyberlord and they act like Cybus Cybermen...moreover, why would the Mondasian Cybermen freeze or hibernate when they are made specifically to operate in an extremely cold environment?--203.168.176.42 07:45, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes but the Cybus Cybermen, don't have spaceships, the Cybus Cybermen don't have cybermats, The Cybus Cybermen aren't thousands of years old ect

And another thing if you watch any of the Mondasian Cybermen stories you will see that they act the same.

Also Hybernation is the Mondasian Cybermens thing, the Cybus Cybermen don't do that but the Mondasian do in Toom of the Cybermen, The Wheel in Space, The Invasion, Earthshock and Attack of the Cybermen.

If you look there is more evidence that they are Mondasian than Cybus. General MGD 109

Most importantly: why are the Cybusmen in our universe in the first place? They're all trapped in the void. And don't say they're in our universe because they were in the Pandorica Opens. Presumably the cracks and the decaying universe allowed them to get out of the void. After the Big Bang, they will once again be trapped. My theory: Presumably there is a Mondas, and therefor Mondasian cybermen in Pete's World. John Lumic based the design for his cybermen on plans of these Mondasian Cybermen. He probably got the designs from International Electromatics, the company from the invasion (as he was seen using vans with the IE logo, I presume he bought the company). It would be too much of a coincidence that the Cybusmen were so much like our cybermen. TemporalSpleen 11:33, July 10, 2010 (UTC)