User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-1272640-20161223201024/@comment-95.147.32.223-20170115143729

Bwburke94 wrote: Pluto2 wrote: At this point, I'd be hard-pressed to find a reason Scream of the Shalka (both the webcast and novelization) and The Feast of the Stone could be considered invalid, as there's...not much to debate here. It certainly passes rule 4, and discontinuity with the Wales series is not in itself a reason for exclusion. From a purely in-universe standpoint, nothing outright says the incarnation Grant plays is the ninth. The "all nine of him" line that you yourself provided is good enough evidence. You've twisted the words to make sense of how he could potentially be a later incarnation, but saying that he is not ninth (in his personal timeline) is pure speculation.

The more pressing question is the Eighth Doctor, because he will have regenerated into two entirely different Doctors if the Shalka incarnation is ninth. Is that any different than Antony anleys incarnation of the master who has 3 different endings including losing his body and regerating into a new incarnation or the Delgado master who in the books simply became disfigured and was the one seen in the deadly assassina or in big finish regerated into the one who became disfigured