User talk:ThePandoricaOpens666

Please do not add speculation or out of universe information information to articles. Also, do not change the tense of articles to present tense. All articles should be in past tense. The Thirteenth Doctor 11:45, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Rumours are not permitted to be used on articles on this wiki. All articles are written in past tense because that is what was decided was best for the wiki. We can't have articles in present tense because things change. And we can't have some in present tense and others in past. We write from the point of view that we are the only thing that has survived after the universe has collapsed and are documenting what happened. Now that you have been told this, if you continue to add speculation or change tenses it may be seen as vandalism, which could result in a block, so please follow the manual of style. The Thirteenth Doctor 11:59, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Please stop adding that edit to the Boiled sweet page. Simply because the Doctor had a sweet once does not mean he strongly liked them. He has been shown to have them once, has never eaten or offered them before or after, so it is is speculative to say he may have a liking for them. It's like saying the ninth incarnation had a liking for steak because he ordered it once. The Thirteenth Doctor 12:12, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

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Everything I do is always seen as vandalism, Im fed up of everyone hating me and thinking I'm useless.

Recently I edited Krill, there is a living creature on Earth called Krill, so I wrote For the earth species of the same name, see Wikipedia:Krill and it got edited out

why?

it is not relevant to the wikia, this is a doctor who database Revanvolatrelundar 12:03, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

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Oh whatever, everything I do on this site is looked down on by you people, Im fed up of being worthless and despised and thought of as a waste of space by you people,.

please read http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Tardis:Manual_of_Style to see where some of your edits went wrong Revanvolatrelundar 12:07, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

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OK i will, but now again my edit of Boiled sweet has been deleted, its funny how you people ask for stubs to be improved, and whenever they get more detail added the detail is removed.

You people turn something as wonderful as Doctor Who into some big complex formality.


 * This is an encyclopaedia. It is supposed to be formal and relative. We are not against you, we're trying to help you, but we cannot simply allow the edits to stay just because you may think we don't like you. I can assure you that is not the case. Your recent edit was vandalism and if you continue to edit as such you will be blocked. Given that we know you do want to contribute helpfully, we can look past it, but you need to read the manual of style. The link has been provided to you twice, yet you still haven't read through it. I strongly suggest you do so in order to understand why your edits are being reverted. The Thirteenth Doctor 12:16, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Cyborg
I must ask you again to read through the Manual of Style. Your recent edit to the Cyborg page was both out of universe at some points as well as in the present tense. This is the last time I will ask you, after which I will ask an admin to step in. The Thirteenth Doctor 13:00, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

ok
ok ill edit it

cyborg
Yes Ive noticed some past-tense, for which I apologise, although I dont like being told off for it and threatened as if ive done something inhuman. Ive edited it into past tense, and referred to the "whoniverse or "doctor who universe" as simply "the universe" is thats what you meant by out of universe.

It is not a threat, it is a warning. Thank-you for editing it. There are only minor tweaks to be made now. Have you read the manual of style? The Thirteenth Doctor 13:17, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

cyborg
warnings and threats are no different in my books, either way theyre both like someone sniping at me, im sorry for being like this but im used to having people sniping at me all my life and it gets frustrating when people do it on the internet as well, its like the whole worlds against me.

Which minor tweaks are they? Ive read it mostly.

Things like spacing, making sure that all all episode sources are properly written, enclosed in brackets with the DW linked. That sort of thing. The Thirteenth Doctor 13:59, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

ok
ok then


 * Also, you don't need to start a new section every time you post a reply. You can just post it underneath the previous one. And, it's not so important here, but on other talk pages like the forums etc, remember to post your signature, either by clicking the button or typing four ~. This helps people identify where your post ends. Thanks. The Thirteenth Doctor 14:03, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

ok
i was wondering how do i add pictures to an article? you see i want to do a gallery section for "cyborg"
 * For pictures, you should place them in the spaces between paragraphs rather than in a gallery. The code for it is thumb|Caption. . The filename should include "File:" or "Image:" depending on which one the image uses and the file type extension should go at the end, for example, .jpg . Replace the "caption" with a sentence describing what the image is, and give a source for the image. For example, thumb|The Doctor. ([[DW: The Christmas Invasion)]] gives... [[Image:New begining 04.jpg|thumb|The Doctor. ([[DW]]: The Christmas Invasion)]]
 * When uploading a picture, please make sure that you don't upload it over another picture. The wiki actually gives you a warning, so take heed of it. If you upload over a pre-existing picture, then all pages using that image have their images changed. It is always best to choose a new name. Also, you should always check that the image doesn't exist already, or check in case a sufficient one already exists. All this information is in the Manual of Style and related articles. Have you read it? If not, please do so now as it means I won't have to tell you how to do things and I will be able to edit the wiki as well. --The Thirteenth Doctor 14:39, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Promotional Images
Hey. I notice you've been adding images to articles recently, and that some of them have been promotional pictures. It is actually against the Manual of Style to use images that are not from episodes, so some of them will need to be removed. Thanks. The Thirteenth Doctor 18:32, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

images
after all that hard work, and thats all you have to comment on. very well, ive removed the promotional images and replaced them, i used those ones in the first place because it was difficult to find any better ones on google images for those characters

I have but its so long and I dont take in all the details. And no, I dont expect that, although Id prefer people not to snipe at me and act like Im some sort of enemy.
 * What do you want? Everybody to thank you for editing? All those images that you have uploaded have no sources on them. You'll need to go back to all the files and add sources. If they are from television episodes they will be BBC screenshots. If you don't, they will be deleted. Also, have you actually read the manual of style or any of the policies? I've asked you several times and you haven't actually told me. The Thirteenth Doctor 20:08, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

And you seem to be indifferent to images being deleted as if you like pages being dull and plain text.

How do I add sources for them?


 * Nobody is sniping at you. You said yourself that you just take it like that. Perhaps you should stop seeing everyone as being against you and actually consider that they may be trying to help you. I'm not indifferent to hem being deleted, but I can't add the sources because I don't know where they came from. And if I was indifferent then I wouldn't even bother to warn you, I'd let them simply be deleted. I suggest you take a while to actually read through the manual, no matter how long it is. I had to, all the other users have had to. I won't be helping you any more as you are becoming too dependant on other users instead of reading the manual thoroughly. It explains the things you need to know. The Thirteenth Doctor 20:47, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

They make it too long, and too complicated. they write 50 billion words on one subject and excpect people to understand it all in one go, its not fair

Look ive looked at the manual, i read about images and it doesnt tell me how to source the information, i dont even know what it means by source, does it mean the website?

--The Thirteenth Doctor 21:33, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * But it's obvious you've not actually looked over it for any length of time and simply glanced over it. And you can easily refer to it instead of asking other users all the time. To add a source that is a screenshot you add to the image's page. --The Thirteenth Doctor 21:08, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * look i cant do it, when i remove an image then add it again it wont work, nothign works i dont know where to begin i just dont understand what to do!!!
 * Ok. Do not upload any more pictures until you remember this:
 * 1) Do not upload duplicate images as they will be deleted. Check that they haven't already been uploaded by looking on related pages to what the image is of.
 * 2) When you do upload the file, choose the licensing in the licensing drop-down bar. If it is from the television episode select "BBC screenshots".
 * 3) If you have already uploaded the image, go to the image page, edit it and add.

thanks very much, but...what is the image page?

Click on the image, then a box will come up. On the bottom right hand corner there will be a link that tells you to go to the page. Click it and it takes you to the image page. It is the page that you go to immediately after an image is uploaded. Remember, instead of uploading new images, check in case a suitable image already exists. The Thirteenth Doctor 21:46, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

No, don't add screenshot to the image on the page. Add it to the image's page. The Thirteenth Doctor 21:59, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Recent edits
Hi. I would suggest that you pause on your edits to this wiki. Instead please look and read around at several of the pages, looking at both their text as it appears on the article and the wiki-code behind the article, please also look through the Tardis:Help pages including the Tardis:Manual of Style.

I have been looking through several of your recent edits and while I see you are certainly enthusiastic, however the formatting of several of your additions does not follow our Manual of Style.

As far as the use of images go, they should add to what is being said in the text of an article not simply be "here is an example of X".

I would also encourage you to look through the Category:Doctor Who images category and the sub-categories within, this has all of the images used on this wiki, categorised into a variety of sub-categories. Also please feel free to experiment with editing on the Tardis:Sandbox. Thanks. --Tangerineduel 14:40, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

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I don't understand. What are you talking about? The Thirteenth Doctor 21:11, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Parts were rather repetitive, some were in the present tense (they should be in past tense) and then there was the sourcing (which is not needed in the opening paragraph as it looks out of place). Also, it doesn't really need to go into much detail as that especially since it's all explained in the main body of the article. The Thirteenth Doctor 21:17, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

User pages
Please do not ask questions on my user page. Editing other users' user pages it considered vandalism. Use their talk pages. I removed the images as they did not add anything to the article. Other than being images of examples, they provided nothing, much like what was happening on the Cyborg page with all the images you were adding there which had to be removed. The Thirteenth Doctor 18:06, September 13, 2010 (UTC) Honestly some of the people on here, everything has to be done to an exact way, you lot are like Terminators or Cybermen or Daleks.
 * Images aren't a necessity in articles. It's better if they do, yes, but not if they're simply there because they can be. We're an encyclopaedia first off, not a picture book. --The Thirteenth Doctor 18:24, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Completely devoid of emotion or desire. Ive added the pictures again but THIS TIME ive added better detail and I think now they add stuff to the article. Is this OK?


 * The rules have been agreed on by the community to help run the wiki better. If you do not like them, bring up your problems in the forums. I'd rather, and others as well most probably, would rather you didn't say we were devoid of emotion or desire, as that's quite offensive. The option to edit other peoples' user pages is there so any spam/vandalism/red links made by the user can be removed by others if needed. The images are better than they were, but will need to be fixed so they are in positions related to the relative information about them. Tangerineduel has also said on the talk page that you shouldn't add the images and actually work on the article first otherwise you'll just add images, a load of information and then it will just sit there needing a cleanup like Cyborg is. The Thirteenth Doctor 18:39, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Silurians
You said it yourself "was intended to be". That means it wasn't a Silurian. The Thirteenth Doctor 17:58, September 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * You go to a cinema, and they say, "we intended to show Harry Potter tonight". What comes next? "Sadly we are not".
 * You go to a concert, and they say, "Snow Patrol were intended to play tonight". What comes next? "Sadly they will not be performing tonight."
 * See a pattern? Intended means that is what is was supposed to be, but it turned out to be different. That is my point. --The Thirteenth Doctor 18:09, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Do not question my liking of Doctor Who. Yes I have an imagination and love speculation, but it has it's place on the wiki. Something I question is whether you ever bothered to read the Manual of Style and the policies for the wiki. Did you? The site is not a speculation site, a forum or a guessing site. It is first and foremost an encyclopaedia. We put down stone cold facts. No speculation, no guessing. Would you open up an encyclopaedia and expect it to say: "There may be life in space. In fact, we have imagination... so there is definitely life in space". No, you wouldn't because to say so is wrong. --The Thirteenth Doctor 18:14, September 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Because if you want to edit here without your edits being reverted, you need to know what to add and how to add it. I ask you one final time to read it. You have been asked numerous times to do so, even by an administrator. If something like this happens again, I'm simply going to ask an administrator to block you, as it is simply getting ridiculous the amount of time it takes to argue with you. The Thirteenth Doctor 18:21, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * No. I'm talking about adding speculative sections, then undoing their removal when other users give good reasons why they were removed. Also, please sign your comments on talk pages, it's very difficult to follow a conversation when you don't post your signature. The Thirteenth Doctor 19:11, September 14, 2010 (UTC)