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Yes, I agree that these forums cannot be used to prove any statement, which is why I did not cite them directly or linked to them.

Here are some examples of the Terry Nation Estate (TNE) and its spokesperson Tim Hancock having direct influence on all things Dalek. "There was a recent story in The Sun about the Terry Nation Estate blocking various DVD extras because they didn't want the Daleks to be seen in a certain light."

- 24 February 2008, question in an interview with Nick Briggs

"Originally I had hoped to include wooden Daleks, but objections to that concept raised by the Terry Nation estate necessitated a change to metal and stained glass instead."

- Mike Tucker, the writer of Order of the Daleks, released about a year ago, in writer's notes section of production notes

""I am absolutely delighted that the Terry Nation estate and the BBC have been able to reach agreement on terms for the use of the Daleks in the new Doctor Who series," said Tim Hancock, agent for the Terry Nation estate. "We look forward to working closely with the production team in the forthcoming months.""

- 4 August 2004, announcement about the new series at BBC News

It seems clear that not only does TNE have the rights but they are not afraid to demand changes to the final product, thus, exerting a certain control over the production. Regarding the peculiarities of the US copyright law, Titan Comics are also published in the US. As noted earlier they include "Dalek image copyright BBC/Terry Nation" in Dalek-related stories. Thus, it would be very irregular if this notice could be omitted for the movie.

If the notice is present in the movie, the issue is closed. If not, the situation becomes "unusual" and some official confirmation is required that they had a complete license from both BBC and TNE to use Daleks proper.