Talk:Time field/Archive 1

Poster Crack
No trick can get past me! haha! Kranitoko 20:20, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Pandorica may be the doing of Pandorica... Maybe?
Could it? There are some similarities. Do you think that she is still alive in the corner of the mind of some Time Lord, and with the Events of the episode "End of Time" she could have escaped, somehow... Doing so it could have created the craks in time, because she was not supose to be in there, but she is so powerfull (or so vague, not living, never "existing") that entitys like the Reapers can't detect her...

But this is only my teory... But at this moment it's the only one that I like xP L Mars 23:08, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

The Black Guardian
I dont know why but I have a feeling the Black Guardian is the new ultimate enemy. Think about we havent seen the guardians in the new series though there have been suspisions about the Woman from the end of time was the White guardian so it seams appropriate they should show up sooner or later. Also in the old series the Guardians had imense power and the Black Guardian strives to create chaos and destruction. Ripping apart the universe or damaging the universe with the craks seams like something he could do easily. Its just a theory of mine so dont hate me for throwing in my 10cent.

Another Crack?
Not really worth mentioning, but watch the 3D pre-Alice in Wonderland series trailer again (starlit sky, ye olde "Doctor Who?" joke, flying through vortex with a measly three enemies that we already know about).

Before Smith and Gillian fall into the time vortex the grass physically cracks rather than just giving way. Sneaky...

Any light on to what that thing at the end is would be cool, too.

81.97.251.86 23:58, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: Also, in the second episode towards the end, the Doctor's looking out over a beautifully CGI'd starscape and Amy hands the mask to him. It could just be me or the badly aging windows they're looking out of, but doesn't the universe he's looking at seem cracked to anyone else?

81.97.251.86 23:37, April 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * No, sorry. The cracks are patently in the window, not the universe. This is clear when you watch the scene in motion, not just a single still frame.

Story Arc - Zero
OK, so we know "silence will fall" is a dead cert for some cataclysmic universe-threatening thing in the finale, the 'Pandoricum' is going to 'open', and the story arc involves 'cracks' in the universe of which we've already seen two and the one the Doctor's monitoring. But something's linking them all together. ...maybe?
 * Prisoner Zero was the antagonist of the first episode.
 * The Doctor sent the number 0 throughout the entirety of 21st Century Earth.
 * The kid in the intro of the second episode (Timmy?) got a zero on some cyber-homework...
 * ...and was subsequently punished for getting on that elevator. On the display, the floor he was dropped to read "000".

81.97.251.86 23:34, April 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Steven Moffat has stated that there are five features of the new series that will keep appearing like bad wolf did. The cracks are one and it seems "0" could be another one. Seems plausible. Oh also the last one about reaching floor 000 doesn't really count because he was being sent to the star whale to be eaten at the centre of the ship, so he would naturally be on the bottom floor Yun Fang 18:48, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Pandorica references could be another reoccuring feature. Meta-Levia, 16:30, May 4, 2010 (GMT)
 * The Pandorica references could be another reoccuring feature. Meta-Levia, 16:30, May 4, 2010 (GMT)

The End of Time
The End of Time crack cannot be involved in this page. It is likely it has nothing to do with this. If you put this in, every mention of cracking something throughout the series would have to be incorporated. I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! Bigredrabbit (talk to me) 09:26, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

The Cracks are getting bigger
Looking at the craks through the episode they seam to be changing and getting larger almost like something is trying to push its way through.

Yeah, and the crack in the trailer for "Flesh and Stone" was partway open. Bluebox444 18:34, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

The Cracks Are Glowing
What's interesting about the cracks in episode 2 onwards is that they are glowing. The crack on Amy's room in The Eleventh Hour did not glow until the Doctor forced it open with the Sonic Screwdriver. Is someone/something on the other side trying to force these cracks open? Aussie Doc 13:24, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Good point! I noticed that too. Bluebox444 18:34, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

More than one or all the same?
I wonder - judging by the fact that the cracks are all exactly the same shape, maybe the "cracks" are all one particular crack following the Doctor and Amy around. Maybe it's some kind of entity that exists in the form of a crack in space and time. After all, Radio Free Skaro implied that there was some kind of "silent menace" following the Doctor and Amy on their travels. Bluebox444 18:34, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Title change?
Now that "Flesh and Stone" has aired, do we keep calling this page "The Cracks" or should we change it to "The Crack?" Bluebox444 23:54, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

The Doctor said that the Crack contained Time Energy in Flesh and Stone. Maybe the name should be changed to 'Time Energy'. Meta-Levia 16:28, May 4, 2010 (GMT)

Why The Name Change?
Why has the name of this page been changed to "Time Shield"? The Nth Doctor 01:36, May 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I were just going to post the same question :S, think some one should change it back unless theres a good reason for the change?Alex1442 01:40, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Doctor calls the crack a Time Shield. I love the new name, too. Delton Menace 02:19, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Time Shield is the only name given besides 'The Crack in my Bedroom'. I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! Bigredrabbit (talk to me) 03:35, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just checking is it confirmed it's called a time shield? I swear the Doctor and Angel Bob said time field
 * This is an unhelpful name change, though it may be supported by Flesh and Stone. The predominant name for this phenomenon is something which has the word "crack" in it. Now, I'm not saying we yet have the best possible name for it, so I can't offer an immediate name change, but The Cracks was actually a better name than this, in terms of maximizing comprehensibility of the topic. Calling them "time shields" — and allowing that name to be used in articles — is going to create more confusion than not, I think. Especially if it turns out later that the term was used in only this episode.


 * I personally don't even buy the name at all, really. I've watched the episode twice and don't recall the name at all. Could anyone point to an exact time code of the moment the term was used? What I hear from Angel Bob is "time field", not "time shield". And actually it doesn't describe the crack itself but what's inside the crack.  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍
 * Bob also calls it a "rupture in time". Why is that term less valid than "time shield" or "crack in time" or "the cracks"?  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍ 12:55, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no mention of them being called time shields in any episodeLiamhenney 12:59, May 2, 2010 (UTC)Liamhenney
 * Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced this article is actually talking about two different things, and that's making its focus blurred. There are the cracks themselves, and then there's what's inside the crack, and there should be two separate articles on each, or possibly two very clear sections in the same article. The cracks themselves aren't causing the rewriting the history; that's being caused by what's variously called in this episode the "time energy", the "explosion at the end of the universe" and the "time field".  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍ 13:19, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm going to change it back to The Crack or whatever, unless anyone has any strong objections. -- MisterRandom2
 * By the way, how DO you change the title of an article? -- MisterRandom2 17:16, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I figured it out. -- MisterRandom2 17:38, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Changed it just as i finished editing. Curses....... Fan555 17:39, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * He definately said Time Shield. So many things are wrong with Cracks in Time. 1) It isn't a plural 2) It is so much more than just a crack in time, its a whole Time Shield. I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! Bigredrabbit (talk to me) 08:00, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Changed it just as i finished editing. Curses....... Fan555 17:39, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * He definately said Time Shield. So many things are wrong with Cracks in Time. 1) It isn't a plural 2) It is so much more than just a crack in time, its a whole Time Shield. I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! Bigredrabbit (talk to me) 08:00, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * He definately said Time Shield. So many things are wrong with Cracks in Time. 1) It isn't a plural 2) It is so much more than just a crack in time, its a whole Time Shield. I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! Bigredrabbit (talk to me) 08:00, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Prisoner Zero?
I mean, I guess the easy explanation behind this is that Prisoner Zero knows more about the cracks than most characters we've seen so far, but in the Eleventh Hour, it uses the crack to escape it's prison. In Flesh and Stone, it's said that the crack destroys all memories and traces of a creature's existence in time. So how exactly would PZ be able to escape through the crack, as said in the episode? Wouldn't it be wiped from existance? -*IP address here...* 04:06, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Well, any answer will be just speculation until they tell us all the details, but there are all kinds of possible answers.

For example, imagine that the crack is nothing more complicated than a wormhole, except that it's for some reason attracted to the big cataclysmic event at Amy's wedding on 26 Jun 2010. At first, one end gets drawn to Amy in 1996 and sticks in her bedroom for 14 years, while the other is flailing around in spacetime and ends up on the Atraxi prison. As Amy starts traveling around time, the "near" end is following her around, but the "far" end eventually made it way to the end of history, at which point the "time energy" started pouring through it.

So, until the far end reached that end of history, whenever it happened to pass through any inhabited areas, people could have used it to travel to Amy's bedroom, or to space next to Starship UK, or to the War Room during the Blitz. But who, other than a condemned prisoner, would want to do that? --Falcotron 11:01, May 3, 2010 (UTC)