Talk:The Five Doctors (TV story)

Is the current format of the plotholes/errors section of this article seriously within guidelines? It seems very un-wiki to me to have two people arguing over events/opinions within the article itself, with very obviously two voices present in the narration. 203.33.165.216 08:23, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * It occasionally needs a clean up. The comments in italics should come from canon and shouldn't contain speculative phrases. --Tangerineduel 13:36, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

In the Five Doctor's why has susan stayed the same, i mean if she is a time lord and she looks older then how has she stayed in the same form since we first saw DOCTOR WHo? regenerate already 11:47, 17 april 2010


 * Make-up. (Legacy of the Daleks)OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 11:18, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

"Game of Rassilon" link
The "Game of Rassilon" link in The Five Doctors (TV story) redirects to Help:Game of Rassilon, which is outright insane.

There ought to be a page for the original Game of Rassilon, as featured in the show. That, after all, is what anyone clicking on the link is going to be trying to find out about, not this wiki's game of the same title.

You may need a disambiguation page to sort out the confusion that results from this wiki's appropriation of the title for its own purposes. --2.101.53.235talk to me 22:50, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

I've removed the Game of Rassilon links as it does not lead to a page describing the Game as detailed above. When such a page is created then the links can be re-installed. Ventry Girl ☎  06:28, August 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I have created a page for the Game of Rassilon and rolled back the two edits removing the links. Thanks for making us aware of this. --Tangerineduel / talk 06:56, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for creating the page for the Game of Rassilon! Ventry Girl ☎  16:09, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I wish you'd checked the "What Links Here" before you made this frankly major change, Tangerineduel. There are so many links to Game of Rassilon-as-redirect-to-Help:Game of Rassilon that the system can't display even a good fraction of them.  There are also links in the javascript.  Every single page displays a link to Game of Rassilon-as-Help:Game of Rassilon.


 * I left behind adequate notes explaining the rationale for this change, but maybe it would help o explain the state of Game of Rassilon when I repurposed it a year ago. It redirected to Death Zone, and had done for four years, since its creation. There were zero link to it at the time.  No one seemed interested in it, probably because Terrance Dicks never defined the damned thing with any clarity.


 * In any event, the server load required to fix these tens of thousands of links is immense. So I've restored Game of Rassilon as a redirect. There are two avenues open to us going forward.  We could just make The Game of Rassilon the page about the DWU concept.  Yeah, that's an additional article, and we don't like doing that, but this is a special case.  Or we could just have a sidebar at Help:Game of Rassilon which gives what's known about the in-universe concept.  It could pull double duty as  it were.  That, too, is an unusual solution, but what we know about the Game is so little, we could easily accommodate it at the help page.   05:31: Thu 06 Sep 2012


 * Just go with the easiest. The Game of Rassilon. When they're all in the Dark Tower the wobbly hologram of Rassilon makes it sound like it's the definite article "This is THE Game of Rassilon". --Tangerineduel / talk 05:36, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

I'm new to this wiki, but I was thinking that it might make the understanding of "JNT" easier if we add (JNT) after the introduction of John Nathan Turner's name. Even I looked around for a while to see if that was what JNT meant. In fact, I'll make the edit, and if it isn't allowed, just take it out. Thank you. And I'll change my sig soon so you can see it better. Jay JLOM Things turn out for the best for the people who make the best of the way things turn out - John Wooden 06:15, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

Perspectives
It mentions that an explanation for the second Doctor's knowledge of Jamie and Zoe's fate may have come from conversation with the third Doctor. While a possible solution, it adds too many variables to be just given as a solution without a good deal of discussion needed, such as why the third Doctor would casually violate his own history/to what end would he tell his younger self, why the Doctor would assume Jamie and Zoe were supposed to be from his personal future, etc. I am going to remove it and leave it as otherwise learning of their fate unless there's objection.--Trebligoniqua  ☎  15:49, April 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * This one is quite old but I think it could be taken up again... It could also be that, given the Doctor never really bother about rules, did hop out of his personal timestream after he said his goodbyes but before he was doomed to exile and change of appearance. --DCLM ☎  18:42, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

Portmeirion
I removed the reference to Portmeirion as a filming location. It was not. The architect of Portmeirion lived a few miles away and they shot there, as well as other locations in the vicinity, but not in "The Village" itself. Source: http://www.doctorwholocations.net/locations/portmeirion. 68.146.70.124talk to me 19:45, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Taken out of Time
The First Doctor, by his surprise of seeing Susan again, is clearly taken out of time some time after The Dalek Invasion of Earth.

The Second Doctor mentions Omega which means he's taken out some time after his pop-out of time in The Three Doctors, and also mentions when seeing Jamie and Zoe that they were made to forget him which means, if the suggestion above is not true, that he jumped out some time between his goodbyes and his exile/change of appearance during The War Games.

The Third Doctor remembers the Second Doctor from their previous encounter in The Three Doctors, by the means of how they adress eachother, and must be taken out somewhere after that.

And finally the Fourth Doctor is directly, and clearly, taken out of time from the boat scene in Shada. -DCLM ☎  19:37, July 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * The Second Doctor placement isn't as cut and dried as that. See Season 6B. 23skidoo ☎  17:08, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

Corpsing, or intentional?
Just after the Ring of Rassilon teleports back onto the “dead” Rassilon's finger, the body appears to wince or wink. Is it just "corpsing", and thus, a production error? Or is it intentional, fitting with the fact that Rassilon isn't properly dead but in some weird "forever-sleeping" state? --Scrooge MacDuck ☎  17:39, September 26, 2018 (UTC)