User talk:Revanvolatrelundar

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Update
Just thought you might want to know that I contacted wikia regarding the background issue. They promptly replied with: "We are currently having some image server issues going on related to purging of images from our caches as they are uploaded. Our technical team is currently working on finding the cause and resolving it."

- Wikia

They didn't provide a time-scale for a solution so I can only hope its prior to Saturday. ThanksSkittles the hog-- Talk 15:17, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Is the new background fitting on your screen? It's aligned to the right a bit more than the last one. ThanksSkittles the hog-- Talk 15:29, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Really? I haven't touched it. I'll upload a new version moved left a bit. You may have to refresh your cache in 5. Thanks for helping me "perfect" this. :)Skittles the hog-- Talk 15:32, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I think you may have missed it as it's a bit obscure. I've uploaded a new version now.Skittles the hog-- Talk 15:38, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. I have been notified of similar problems. I think its just a case of finding a size that fits the majority.Skittles the hog-- Talk 15:15, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Done!Skittles the hog-- Talk 16:55, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Come on, Revan! (RE: Doug86)
Do you hate Doug86? Cokme on, admit it! I certainly do! Do you dislike Doug86? Do you? Has he ever deleted a page straight away that you created like 90.215.45.50's Temporal Anomaly? Well? Doug87 19:27, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

PS: Leave the answer below, please, as I have no talk page. Doug87 19:29, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

"Doug87"
I've deleted the message you left on "Doug87" as the user doesn't exist (if they did they'd have a talk welcome page), the user page/contributions page has no contributions or deleted contributions. I think there's a few IP users masquerading as "Doug87", the user who left the talk comment above (90.210.131.149) also left a few talk page comments on my talk page where they pretend to be 4 different users. I've deleted your comment left on "Doug87"'s talk page just so the user doesn't gain any legitimacy (please restore it if you think it should be left intact though). Thanks. --Tangerineduel / talk 14:27, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Deletion policy
Hey, I just wanted to ask you opinion on adding the following to Tardis:Deletion policy (or something to the same affect).


 * "Brevity is not a reason for deletion unless the subject matter is covered by an article with a similar agenda."

I'm not trying to suggest we list all the invalid reasons for deletion but cases like this seem to be quite prevalent and so it would be nice to have something to refer to. It's not a big change, but it would be quite handy. What do you think?Skittles the hog-- Talk 13:08, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

We need to settle the validity of FP as a resource before you continue adding tons of material about it
Please stop writing articles so as to suggest that an FP source has claimed something about Gallifrey, Time Lords, the Doctor, or any other BBC-copyrighted item. If you can't produce a page number in a FP book that actually says "Gallifrey"' then don't claim that an FP source talks about Gallifrey. I know you love FP, and you're au fait with all the little "code words" and sly references to BBC concepts, but please don't go beyond what the text actually says.

It's highly misleading to readers to claim that Of the City of the Saved... says something about a Time Lord named Handramit who left Gallifrey when neither "Time Lord" nor "Gallifrey" appears in the text of the book.

There is only one narrative about Faction Paradox that is true to the DWU, and that's the one that happened in the EDAs. The Lawrence Miles spin-off wasn't allowed to refer to anything in the DWU by its proper name for legal reasons. We can't now go back in and try to decipher the code language that he used to get around legal restrictions. It's absolute madness for us to attempt something like that.

Obviously this is just my very strong opinion, and not policy. I'm just asking you to stop making these kind of articles until the matter can be settled once and for all by community consensus. 19:11:25 Mon 30 May 2011

Protection
Hey, just wanted to make sure you know that the protection template only forms that label, it doesn't protect the article. I protected River Song; just undo it when your done. :) Skittles the hog-- Talk 19:14, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. Good move. Skittles the hog-- Talk 19:59, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey, I'm really worried about this lock that you and Skittles have jointly done at River Song. Locking a main character's page during the period of time when most editors really want to write about that character is a bit of an own goal.  Fine, we want to protect pages about stories that haven't been published before.  But locking River Song after an episode with a big revelation about her? We really don't have any cause to do that, except possibly if there were an actual edit war.  We want a lot of activity after episodes are broadcast.  Sure there might be moments where an article reads rough during that creative process, but we don't want to stop all editing dead in its tracks.  In simplest terms, that's just no fun for our editors.  We're already having a tough time making them understand why they've got to wait until an episode is broadcast to edit the page about it.  We can't very well then turn around and say, "Now you can't edit after that episode has gone out."


 * We want people writing when they're most enthusiastic about a subject. Some of the revisions are gonna be crap, but if we have faith in the wiki process, the article will soon find its level.


 * Also, you're kinda misrepresenting things at Talk:River Song when you say, "it was protected before". Yes, the article has been protected before, but never locked.  There is no precedent for this action you've taken; I'm pretty sure that I've never seen a new series character page ever fully locked before.


 * Please remove the lock ASAP. It's pissin' reasonable editors off, as evidenced by the discussion on the rest of the page. Indeed, editors who could have helped you police the page have now been alienated by the lock. Locking isn't really supposed to be done in the main namespace, save for instituting a cool-down period during a genuine edit war.  As indicated at tardis:protection policy, Its main use is really in other namespaces, like template:, file:, tardis: and help:.   06:47:35 Thu 09 Jun 2011

Doomsday (RE: Stop it)
Stop reverting my edits to the Doomsday page! It is absolutely uncalled for! 90.210.131.174 19:37, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Mini-mitch\talk 17:30, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Eight image
Seeing as you are sort of the Eighth Doctor guru, I was wondering if you prefer this image? The current one makes him look a bit bashful. Skittles the hog-- Talk 21:18, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

The Absolute
I don't suppose you remember but your revision of the Absolute categorised it under robots. I just categorised it under Unique beings as I wasn't sure. Any insight as to which it was, I cannot remember? Skittles the hog-- Talk 17:32, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reverted The Eternity Trap
Why was my edit for The Eternity Trap's crew members removed entirely? According to the Format for television stories, it's perfectly fine, if not outright preferred to use Template:Wales crew for the BBC Wales spinoffs. 94.2.154.27 19:54, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * And yes, I know about the whole "two casting directors not showing up" bit, which I asked at the tag's discussion page to sort out around the same time I edited. Still doesn't completely answer my question. 94.2.154.27 20:00, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Not 100% sure what you mean about "neither showing up", though. I can see one of them just fine in the previous edit. Are credits beneath that not working or something? 94.2.154.27 20:24, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Category problems
Are you currently unable to add categories in the usual way when in editing mode? At the moment I'm having to type them out by hand and was wondering if this problem was widespread or just personal.-- Skittles the hog-- Talk 15:39, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I love quotes, it almost makes it worth the problem...almost. Skittles the hog-- Talk 16:01, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Time Field
I was wondering, why did you rename Cracks in Time to Time Field, when quite a lot of people would agree that Cracks in Time would be a better name, AND delete the talk page? TroopDude

--Tangerineduel / talk 15:40, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Edits on River Song page
Hello, can you tell me the reason why you have reverted my edits on the River Song page? I spent quite some time delving into episodes for quotes and details so that the information is accurate. If you have anything to say about the accuracy we can discuss it, but to completely revert my edits there has to be a good reason. Dakovski 05:25, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Help
As an independent admin, I was wondering if you could review the situation at Talk:Silurian. I think that User:Cortion has breached Tardis:No personal attacks, but as the target, it would be unfair to take action myself. Sorry to pressure you, there's no rush. Thanks Skittles the hog-- Talk 11:14, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * If he has, I would suggest leaving the block until the discussion is finished. Which should hopefully be soon. Mini-mitch\talk 11:19, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to give me such a well laid out opinion. Yeah, Mini-mitch is right, the discussion should come first. Skittles the hog-- Talk 11:39, July 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * So you are going to block me then? Cortion 12:33, July 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Please don't block me! I'm extremely sorry! I will change! Just give me a chance! Cortion 12:42, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Why don't you block Skittles the hog, why me? I've done nothing! Cortion 12:48, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * I still don't understand. Just give me Saturday, Sunday and Monday off. I can cool down then. Tuesday if you must. But please not for a week! Cortion 13:02, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * You are a very upsetting user, Revan. Cortion 13:09, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, but even though he was very hostile, I can't help feeling sorry for him. :( Skittles the hog-- Talk 13:14, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, of course, we must observe policy. I wasn't trying to sway your judgement, just voice an opinion. Sorry for any confusion caused. Skittles the hog-- Talk 13:22, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Christ!
Yep, thanks, that helps a lot. 21:26:38 Mon 11 Jul 2011

Morgan
Hi,

Just to say that I think Owen's involvment in the story is relevant, and also Ed didn't try to hug Gwen, this is a mistake. He threw himself onto the knife. That was deliberate; he is suicidal, paranoid and depressed.

Thedarkestvillain 20:36, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hon Mrs Saxon
Hullo there! I'm an experienced Wikian and I see you've reverted my first edit without citing a reason. I hate to bother, but would you mind explaining, please? DBD 20:55, July 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's not at all based on speculation – the article itself lists The Lord Cole of Tarminster as Saxon's father. That automatically means she was The Honourable. That's about as solid as it gets. I'm not new to this DBD 23:27, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

The Impossible Astronaut
Please state the reason for your reversion of my edit to The Impossible Astronaut, it was done in good faith, added information, and contains substantiated information from episode footage. Cowbert 02:43, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

MM/ Want to talk? 20:33, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Zamper
Heya :) I'm not quite sure why you re-created Zamper (planet).  Maybe you just didn't read the list of previous deletions before you hit "submit".  (Maybe, somehow, you got to the create page in such a way that you bypassed the delete log.) In any event, please remember that tardis:disambiguation policy would give the un-disambiguated form to the in-universe item, in this case, the planet.  You'll therefore find a thriving article on this topic at Zamper.  13:08:16 Fri 12 Aug 2011
 * No worries. I think that was actually my fault for not having the bot look at the novel page when it was doing the original switchover from Zamper to Zamper (novel) and Zamper (planet) back to Zamper.  I just manually changed the novel page, though.  See it's stuff like this that makes me believe that all stories should just be auto-disambigged.  I do at least five of these kind of switchoevers every week.   13:14:08 Fri 12 Aug 2011

Dependence Day
Having just properly disambigged Independence Day (novel), I gotta ask: is there a thing in Dependence Day called "Dependence Day"? Like, is it an actual (holi)day in the DWU? If so, please let me know, please start writing up an article about the day on your sandbox, and please start linking to Dependence Day (short story). I'll then take care of the changeover with the bot, and you can transfer the contents of your sandbox to Dependence Day once the move has been completed. Thanks. 16:01:04 Fri 12 Aug 2011

categories
Hi Reven, not feeling brilliant at the mo, but just catching up on some bits (been busy at work for months now. Sorry about the categories, I still get confused with individuals and I know I'm gonna have to revisit them at some point. But just to say thanks ... thanks :) The Librarian 16:32, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Name
Can I call you Rev for short? Because your name is incredibly long. BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 11:05, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Davros and Big Finish
Sorry about that! I'll have to have a closer look at the Tardis:Spoiler Policy in the future. Incidentally, thanks for the compliment regarding my Big Finish edits. I've been having a Big Finish marathon for the last several weeks so I'm gleaning all sorts of interesting information as well as being thoroughly entertained! GusF 22:00, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

17:07:41 Mon 22 Aug 2011

Page delete
Hi Revanvolatrelundar (wow, that's a mouth full), and I recently created River Song (Mels), which you subsequently deleted. I'm an active member of multiple Wikia communities, and so I was wondering why was it deleted? I was under the impression that pages were being created for all of Melody Pond/River Song's incarnations, including Mels. The reason I assumed this was for two reasons. One, being the talk page discussion, and two being the creation of Melody Pond (River Song). I have realised, that I named the article incorrectly, and while creating the article I was planning to request it be moved to the proper name, being 'Melody Pond (Mels)', but before I could it was deleted. Thanks for your time, 13:01, August 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, but that's the same situation with Melody Pond (River Song), is that to be deleted too? Are we going to have seperate articles for seperate incarnations of Melody?
 * Thanks, I'll bring it up. :) 13:08, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

River Song
Sorry, they were already there when I added those categories. I didn't establish the pages myself. Should those pages be removed, then? -- Tybort -- Tybort (talk page) 14:46, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

DWM categories
When categorising the DWM issue, remember to alphabetise them by issue. So DWM 404 would be alphabetised as " 404". The space is essential. Please could you add this to the ones you have already done. Thanks for helping out.-- 09:48, August 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for helping recategorise the DWMs. Just though you might want to know that we accidentally made the DWM achievements unobtainable as there are no longer any articles in category:DWM issues.-- 12:39, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

I can't see a way around this, so if asked, deny everything.-- 12:54, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

River
OK, fine, speculation on the main article is not allowed. But can I instate the 'speculation' about where she lived during the Mels era in the 'behind the scenes' section of the article??

Cascade11 19:05, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Reply via my talk page.

Mahalo
Thanks for catching that IP user problem reported by user:Boblipton. 23:17:27 Wed 31 Aug 2011

River Song
Recently a source was added to the page "River Song "for the Little Girl in the Impossible Astronaut being River, as discussed on River Song's Talk page. I was just wondering why this has been removed? Aliyoda 12:14, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * But what if (as in this case) an out of universe source is all we have? There is no complete in-universe proof that the little girl is River, and without this source it is mere speculation, which (as I understand) isn't allowed on in-universe articles either?
 * Aliyoda 12:23, September 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * First, let me say that I'm very happy with the way this was ultimately resolved; the Behind the Scenes entry answers Aliyoda's question about the fact appearing in the article, without needing any kind of clumsy attempt to shoehorn it into the in-universe sections.


 * However, I wish you would have responded on the Talk page, or left me a message, or at least left an edit summary. We had a discussion going on between multiple users, we came to an agreement, I did what we'd agreed to, and it was reverted without comment. This seems to be a general pattern on this wiki; there's little reason to try to use the Talk page to improve the article when others are just going to change the article back without discussion, and as a result the Talk pages end up being more about random speculation than serving any useful purpose. --173.228.85.35 06:14, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Uncategorized files
The licensing of all images in Special:UncategorizedFiles has been completed. To the extent that there are images left there, they are most likely simply waiting for a cache update to whisk them off the page. By no later than Wednesday the caching will have cleared away any remaining stragglers.

I have taken some time to manually (well, semi-automatically, let's say) affix the proper licenses to a great many of the pictures that used to be there. From Wednesday forward, all pictures discovered in UncatFiles will be subject to completely automatic deletion. A number of warnings have been placed on the wiki to this effect. You may direct users to Help:Files should they come to you with the question, "What happened to my file?"

I plan to implement an automatic run more or less when I feel like, but on a weekly basis when any of our shows are in season; at least monthly when not.

user:Doctor Who 63, far and away the biggest offender, has now been put on what I would call a "final warning". If he uploads even a single new picture without a license, there are certainly adequate grounds to block him. I would suggest a block of no more than a week at first, just to let him or her that we are completely serious about needing image licenses. His latest offense comes from 4 September, well and truly after two or three warnings from TD. If he had ever acknowledged TD in the past, to let us know that he was having problems understanding what to do, the case would probably be different. As he's been asked several times, and yet continues to do break the rule. Yes, his behavior is being aided by the "add a photo to this gallery" bug, but since he/she won't respond we're left with only the option of taking some overt action. Again, you'll be looking for any uploads after 11 Sept without a license. Thanks. 23:04:15 Sun 11 Sep 2011

Achievements now "the Game of Rassilon"
Please note that "Achievements" has now been totally rebranded the "Game of Rassilon" on this site. For those editors who only edit here, it will probably be confusing to make reference to "Achievements", as the word has all but been scrubbed from public view. Help and rules files are now Help:Game of Rassilon and tardis:Game of Rassilon rules. 13:37:54 Tue 13 Sep 2011

Image discussion
&mdash; Rob T Firefly - &#916;&#8711; - 13:44, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

MM/ Want to talk? 22:27, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Ministry of Chance
Hey, I've deleted everything on the wiki having to do with the Ministry of Chance — or at least everything that was linked to Ministry of Chance, except for the Minister of Chance, himself. The creators have firmly said on the Flashing Blade podcast, and elsewhere, that it absolutely does not occur within the DWU and it should not be interpreted as such. Obviously they have zero backing from the BBC.

It simply doesn't belong on the wiki. I dislike having to invalidate so much of your work, but this is well beyond the scope of what we should be covering. I don't think this deletion requires a forum discussion because it's precisely in line with other deletion decisions for BBV things, to which you were a party and in agreement. This is like The Stranger all over again. Or like covering other fictions in which, I dunno, Ian McNiece has played Winston Churchill just because they share a character and actor with Doctor Who. 05:03: Fri 07 Oct 2011

Umbaste
I'm curious as to why you rolled back my latest edit of Umbaste. Care to explain why?Boblipton talk to me 17:19, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Eighth Doctor Timeline
For sure! I'd love some help, I mostly chose the Eighth Doctor because I've read/heard most of the stories involving him (I've not read several of the STs) and it's got fairly easy limiting points to separate out things (Gallifrey's destruction, Romana etc)

I've been rewriting the timeline page as a proof of concept for the Forum:Timeline pages post, to show how I think all the timeline pages should look.

I've moved the page from a subpage of my user page to a subpage of the current timeline page (Eighth Doctor - Timeline/Work in progress) so it's more accessible for work by multiple users. I don't think it should be the current page as it's not in a state that's ready. When we decide to integrate it into the current timeline page I'll merge the pages so the history can be preserved.

I'm undecided as to how to present the information. Currently I've just got it all indented, which was the easiest way to do it, but I was thinking maybe presenting it in a table might be better.

One of the things I want to do with the Timeline pages and sections on story pages is explain why we've placed the stories where we've placed them. Because if you look through some of the DWREF stuff some of the stories have very little reasoning for their placement, and I don't think the DWREF is always right, some of the other sources present as good as placements. But I want ours to give reasons so people can understand better why things are where they are.

I'd also like to embrace the idea some things just can't be placed, I know that sort of goes against the idea of creating a big information library, but some things just don't have enough information, but we can still add info to an unplaced section as to why we can't place it. Lance Parkin's AHistory has this, at the very back a list of "None of the Above" stories that don't have enough info to fit into a history. I know some things we can place vaguely but, I dunno some things are just very vaguely set.

Onto in-story lists of companions, I would tend more to go with lists of companions pointing towards where in his timeline it exists rather than in the specific order they happen to have travelled with him. --Tangerineduel / talk 03:55, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

past tense
hello. do you have to write everything in the past tense? also could you check ou my wika: http://justwilliam.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity  (and also alert me for any mistakes on it.) thanks Metardis talk to me 18:02, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

MM/ Want to talk? 17:42, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Year 2063?
I was going to put something in this year but it says Permission Error is it suppose to do that?

TimeTraveller34 talk to me 19:34, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ok
Ok, I'll try it tomorrow if i have no luck with it i'll send it to you.

TimeTraveller34 talk to me 15:34, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

acts of vandalism
If I am correct in assuming you're staff, someone is vandalising the Wedding of River Song page and has done so twice in the past hour. Can you see about blocking him? Boblipton talk to me 17:03, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Premature page creation
Why are you creating so many pages, particularly of audio releases, months and months prior to their release? This is a violation of spoiler policy. I don't really want to delete your work, but it's a major inconsistency to lock the creation of TV episode pages until the moment that premieres are broadcast, only to have audio pages created a whopping great number of months before the story's release. 21:01: Fri 25 Nov 2011
 * Revan, it's totally a spoiler by this site's definitions, which are clearly plastered in numerous locations all around the wiki. Starting a page this far out from release is a blatant violation of our spoiler policy.  It makes it hard to enforce that policy if one of the site's admins is so blatantly violating it.  "Spoiler" does not mean "info released by someone other than the production company".  It means any information, from any source, about a story which hasn't been released.   21:43: Fri 25 Nov 2011
 * Read in particular T:SPOIL DEF.  <span style="">21:44: Fri 25 Nov 2011

I Only Put So Many Pics On My Profile So People Could See ALL My Uploads.

Yes, you CAN hear a Silent in the end credits
Actually, you CAN hear a Silent in the very end credits of The Wedding of River Song. I'm not making this up. -- MisterRandom2 talk to me 19:38, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Here's proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzlVP7Id3T0
 * Big whoop. If we heard the TARDIS at the end of the credits, would we put that in? No, because it has absolutely no relevance to the story in any way, shape, or form. Additionally, this guy is in an edit war with myself and Boplipton, and I would appreciate it if you could put a stop to things. We need to decide if we should add this to the page. -- Bold  Clone  23:57, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Fine. Let's just call a truce or whatever. This is obviously going nowhere. -- MisterRandom2 talk to me 00:46, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Eternity Clock
Must ask... how comes you keep removing The Eternity Clock articles?

Kranitoko (talk) 22:33, December 10, 2011 (UTC) <span style="">22:00: Tue 20 Dec 2011

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Hedenex: new page
what is a "spar planet'? Boblipton talk to me 14:15, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

--Tangerineduel / talk 14:21, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

No One Else Can See What I See
The Valeyard arc page said, and I quote, "The Story arc of the Valeyard, the Doctor's inner darkness and the possibity of the Doctor truly turning into the Valeyard". So I when on each Doctor's personality page and put every dark action he took to the Valeyard arc. I also used Television Tropes and Ideals.Who12 talk to me 23:05, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Please tell meWho12 talk to me 23:10, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Toy Story
Fair point you made on the Eighth Doctor sandbox edit. I knew nothing about the Faction Paradox; I was just caught up on the link moving. Before I did what I did, some were prefixed FP, others were CP (due to first appearing as a charity version, I suppose?). Sorry for any inconvenience; I probably should have asked an admin or made a thread. -- Tybort (talk page) 20:00, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

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MM/ Want to talk? 21:33, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Big Finish April releases out now
I was wondering if you could unprotect this months Big Finish audios for editing as they have now been released. Thanks in advance!!Ventry Girl talk to me 09:55, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Pic stuff
Heya :) Please remember that all pics must be a minimum of 250px width upon upload, per T:ICC.  Also, please take a gander at Forum:Thumbnail size.  <span style="">14:00: Mon 23 Apr 2012

Timeline
So, is Forum:Timeline - Eighth Doctor a good outline for writing a new timeline page from scratch, or does it have stuff which fits better in the "Time essay" pages mentioned on the main Forum:Timey-wimey detector? Also, should every story that's not conjecture, even those released in succession or on the same date in the same series, have a note (such as in the bit between The Eight Doctors and Bounty on the Eighth Doctor page stating why it's where it is or is that overkill? -- Tybort (talk page) 23:27, May 3, 2012 (UTC)