Forum:Undated and unchronicled events

Is there a specific reason for using bullet points for undated event sections on individual and species pages? The only example which didn't use this I could find was Sea Devil. It seems like it really messes up uses of images. After all, "undated" isn't a synonym for unchronicled, offscreen adventures even if a few of those mentioned sections refer to "undated/unchronicled". It could easily refer to a comic story that isn't easy to place. -- Tybort (talk page) 11:34, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

What's your proposed alternative format?Boblipton talk to me 12:13, July 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * To not bullet it at all and make it paragraphs, especially for longer undated sections. A lot of DWU fiction doesn't have an obvious placement beyond "features this lineup of Doctor incarnation and companions etc.". It seems bad form to just unilaterally get rid of such a commonly used format without asking; I'm just wondering if there's a valid reason in favour of bulleting. -- Tybort (talk page) 12:46, July 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * The paragraph format implies that the information or events are all related. Paragraphs should consist of information on a specific topic; you shouldn't veer off on an unrelated topic in the same paragraph. For the Sea Devil page, the weapons from The Sea Devils and Warriors of the Deep are both in one paragraph. This makes sense, since weapons are related to weapons. For the undated events, the events are all in one paragraph. This doesn't make sense; it would imply that the captured Sea Devils in The Forgotten and Destiny of the Doctors are somehow related, which is somehow related their addition in the I-Spyder Book of Earth Creatures. The undated events are only tenuously connected in that they are undated. Bullet points at least imply that the events aren't closely connected. -<Azes13 talk to me 17:48, July 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm a little confused. I'm not misusing the word paragraph am I? That means a bit of information, followed by a couple of line breaks or an ident, right? -- Tybort (talk page) 17:59, July 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Indentation, yes. I think Azes is going a bit overboard. He seems to be insisting that the particulars of one set of layout choices are somehow rules of English carved in stone, which I disagree with. I find bullet formatting useful to separate subcategories. For example, in ''The Eternity Clock (video game) continuity section, when the list of hats to be collected piled up, I made them a bulleted subcategory. I think that's an appropriate format. I am, however, sure there are other valid formats.


 * Nonetheless, while Azes may be a touch dogmatic, I think that bulleted separators are a good way to indicate clearly a list of several short (less than two-line) descriptions.


 * How about this: without going into the particulars of whether we should always do things in a particular manner -- which I think tends to make simplistic and ham-handed choices -- how about you plunk down a section formatted as it currently is, and then follow it with it reformatted the way you prefer and we'll see if people prefer yours.


 * I do think that people should make editorial changes without discussing every one. However, so long as you're asking, you're stuck with my opinion, such as it is. Boblipton talk to me 20:53, July 7, 2012 (UTC)