Talk:Kovarian

Eye Patch Lady's Name
It has been stated by some websites that her name is Madame Kovarian. This is because Frances Barber plays both the eye-patch lady and Madame Kovarian. Perhaps this can be stated on the page as a theory/rumour?

Relevant Websites include http://doctorwhospoilers.com/2011/summaries/episode-eight/ (DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU VALUE YOUR LIFE!- Massive Spoilers) and the quote of the week at http://doctorwho-fansite.blogspot.com/search/label/series%206

How can she play both? only one has appeared, Madame Kovarian was not her own character in episodes 2 and 3, they were the same.

Madame Kovarian has been proven as the eyepatch ladies name because during an interview in the total tv guide she says that this is the ladies name


 * There's a 'spoiler' policy and the admins have to wait for 'concrete' sources to maintain accuracy - but if you're looking for one, it may just have arrived; the second official BBC preview for "A Good Man Goes To War" has Dorium directly addressing her as "Madame Kovarian" - Perhaps the time to move the page has arrived. Baziel 23:40, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Episodes
The preview for episode 6 shows her. My mention of that was deleted. I am changing it back. ArthuruhtrA 00:16, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thankyou ArthuruhtrA, it was me who mentioned that in the first place. Obviously I will have more detail about Madame Kovarian once the 'Rebel of Flesh' (episode FIVE) has been broadcast.

82.26.157.86 09:43, May 17, 2011 (UTC)CPC1

Cameo
Technically, shouldn't all her appearances be classed as a 'cameo'. What's the logic of the specific credit for Rebel Flesh?Geek Mythology 19:16, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

I thought the exact same thing. All of her appearances are cameos, the latest one just happened to be a few seconds short than the the first two with no speaking role. It's fairly apparant she may be playing a large role in episode 7 (I think), so that would make all of her former appearances cameos. 90.199.247.156 21:09, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Removed the "cameo" tag. They're all pretty much equal.Skittles the hog-- Talk 21:12, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

I was going to add more information from the most recent episode, The Almost People, but when I tried to edit the page, it said that the page was locked to prevent further editing. Is it because of vandalism, or does the wiki team not want any spoilers? Anyways, for those who can edit the page, here is the info:

The Eye Patch Lady is seen again, but this time with a bigger role. She tells Amy Pond to "push" when she's giving birth. (DW: The Almost People)

Would someone please add this to the page that has rights to? Thanks. MasterDC 13:35, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Gallery
A user recently added a gallery to the page. I would like to propose that it is not removed as seems to be the case with every edit to this page. In the same way as Time Field shows every appearance of that story arc, this one could/should too. I see no real reason for its deletion as the images are neatly tucked away in a gallery. Thoughts?Skittles the hog-- Talk 10:39, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * At the moment, with it at the bottom of the page, it looks an eye sore. If we had more information, which we will have by next week, then we cna re add it. It look messy at the bottom of the page. Also, if we do keep it, we will need another one from a later appearance to add to the end, it looks truely awful as five/seven images. It should be an even amount. But back on subject, it should be removed till we have more information so the images don't look truely awful where they are. Mini-mitch\talk 11:01, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine to me and aesthetics is a flimsy reason at any rate. Leave it up, and when more information is added, it may also look nice for you.Skittles the hog-- Talk 11:10, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Eye Patch Lady/Madame Kovarian
We all know that the "Eye Patch Lady" is in fact Madame Kovarian as she is named in the trailers and numerous of other websites but I can see she is not confirmed on the Offical Doctor Who website but she is also not named on the Doctor Who website only in the ending credits. I think it is time to name her as "Madame Kovarian". The mysterious 15:43, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

The name will be changed when it is stated inside an episode, as it is an in-universe source. This is just the policy of the wiki. --Revan\Talk 16:30, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Age?
The Eye Patch Lady seems to be aging rapidly each time we see her. The first instance we see her the skin on her face is not as taught as it is in later appearances. Most notably this is seen from looking at screen caps from her first appearance and her most recent, telling Amy to "push". JoshuaFry 18:17, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Frances Barber, the actress who plays Kovarian reckons she's in her 40s. 86.31.133.146 09:33, July 31, 2011 (UTC)CPC1

Is River Kovarian?
I just saw the new trailer for the second part of Series 6, and there is a scene where River turns around and has an eyepatch:



In a scene a few seconds before we see Kovarian:

Could these be the one in the same?

Does that mean that there was 3 Rivers in the same time and place?

Does this mean River kidnaps herself? Invictus152 19:25, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Too big a tell, I think. I saw it and I thought of the shot in CAT BALLOU in which Lee Marvin, having killed his brother, puts on his brother's silver nose to scare Jane Fonda and company. That's one explanation. And please sign your pieces on the talk pages.Boblipton 10:22, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

What did The Doctor do to piss her off?
What do you lot reckon The Doctor did to piss off Kovarian?

Invictus152 19:26, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

I suspect the answer to this and a lot of the questions on other topics is that the Doctor talks in his sleep. Boblipton 20:38, July 31, 2011 (UTC)