Forum:Skirmish at TARDIS Wiki

Talk has come up about the existence of "battle" articles on this Wiki by CzechOut. Some of the articles are about minor battles that people have created, like the Skirmish at Hooverville which has been deleted, but the articles proposed for deletion also include The Year That Never Was which is a signficant part of the Whoniverse. Furthermore, the main reason behind the proposed deletions is that they are not proper titles. This really doesn't matter. The name and the content of the article are still part of Doctor Who. This apparently started because of Skirmish at Tranquil Repose, created by Skittles the hog. The other articles are mostly all about battles, including Battle for the Movellan ship(which I improved to make it look like a decient article), Battle of Bellatrix and the War in the Medusa Cascade. These articles can and should stay despite whatever the outcome of the votes are(when do they stop so they can be counted?) All articles proposed for deletion are available in the Proposed deletions category. -- Steed 19:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Would all persons involved please respond.


 * As i have said before these articles contain relevant information for the wiki and surprisingly almost every major / minor battle fought in the Whouniverse hasn't been given a name because like all battle a name is given after the battle has occurred and the original series never really mentioned battles from previous serials.


 * This does not mean the information on these battles shouldn't be included and if there is enough new information in there own article. Otherwise whats the point of having a doctor who wiki, articles are written about in universe events, in universe characters, in universe technology so why not battles ?


 * I propose that we do what other wikis do when they have "canon" (i say it in quotations because of the books, comics ect issue with cannon) information but no title available from an official source. and that is use a conjectural Tempalte which goes something like this:

The title of this article is conjectural. Although this article is based on canonical information, the actual name of this subject is pure conjecture.


 * Meaning we can still have the information (which i would like to think no one is disputing that validity of) whilst letting readers know that no this title isn't a canon title but there isn't one given at the present time Dark Lord Xander 00:07, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I like the idea of the the 'conjecture' template, but not sure if it would be saying the right thing at the top of an article, perhaps chuck it at the bottom of the article though at the top I suppose makes it clear.
 * As for how the votes stop / are counted up, it will probably be an admin who rules on it.
 * On Skirmish at Hooverville it can be undeleted, but as there was a discussion and a talk page and there were no votes against it and two pages linking to it it was deleted. --Tangerineduel 14:30, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok i will create the template so we can still have the info but let readers know that it isn't an official title however this shouldn't be away to save useless pages so the voting can continue Dark Lord Xander 01:03, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Just had a look at the template...I think it might need deleting and going back to the drawing board. As it's neither small or subtle. It shouldn't really impede reading of the article, it should be a note like a piece of italicised text rather than a rather bold orange banner. --Tangerineduel 13:47, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * This (above) I believe is a much more subtle template (it has PAGENAME tags in it to insert the page name into the template when used which). Additionally a large template such as Template:Conjectural would also take up a degree of room at the bottom or top of the article. --Tangerineduel 14:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This (above) I believe is a much more subtle template (it has PAGENAME tags in it to insert the page name into the template when used which). Additionally a large template such as Template:Conjectural would also take up a degree of room at the bottom or top of the article. --Tangerineduel 14:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree with Tangerineduel. Though the Template:Conjectural is a good idea, it could use a slight redesign. But, even though there should be something telling people the title is conjectural, what is everyone's feelings about whether the proposed deletion pages should be deleted or not? -- Steed 19:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Personlly i see no problem with the template (i guess because i made it :) ) originally i thought of something which would stand out / have a relevance to the wiki whilst informing the community of the problem with the title as for the amount of room it takes up really it doesn't take up any more than the spoliers or proposed deletion templates so i don't see the problem granted the wording can be improved (as everything always can but i see no problem with the design. Dark Lord Xander 05:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)