Forum:Updating the Tardis Wiki logo

Introduction


I think this should be the new Tardis Wiki logo. OP over. OS25🤙☎️ 21:09, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Okay, FINE, I'll write an actual OP.

So in our previous debate, now archived at Forum:Temporary forums/Updating the main page & theme, there was pretty strong consensus that the site's user base wants to replace the current Tardis Data Core logo. You can see our current design here:



This logo, ignoring a few color corrections, has been on the site since 16 January 2013, as you can see on the file history of File:Wiki-wordmark.png. At the time, different restrictions existed for the site. I believe at the time 250px across was the limit on the logo, for instance. A similar restriction existed for the actual shape of the design. I believe the current restrictions are 500px by 500px and a 1 MB limit. So it's fair to say that today this logo looks a little stretched and pixelated in a way that it doesn't really need to.

The general consensus in the mentioned forum was that we should update our logo to be more in-line with the RTD2 branding. This inspired me to pitch this as a possible upgrade, with new TARDIS art pending:



However, someone in the debate linked to the Russian version of the wiki, which has replaced their logo with the cut down "novel" version of the RTD2 diamond design. This has inspired many oohs and aahs, as it does look very nice.

And so I decided to find someone who could make a version of this that represented our website. Thus, we have this design:



Now, there are a few minor things worth discussing about this. First of all, adopting this design might mean the formal retirement of the name "TARDIS Data Core." Historically, our website was actually founded as the TARDIS Index File, which was apparently a mis-remembered combination of TARDIS information system and Index file. The name was later changed to TARDIS Data Core to correct there being no in-universe concept of a TARDIS Index File... Only for the BBC to then release TARDIS Index Files, making our abandoned name official.

Anyways, since January 2013 our name has been "Tardis Data Core"... But I honestly see fewer and fewer people use it these days. We're "Tardis Wiki", that's always how I see people describe us. It's a better name.

Worst case situation, we could modify the text next to the logo to hastily add the "official name" back in. Right now, reading the logo and banner together, it says "Tardis Data Core, the Doctor Who wiki." But we could easily change it to "Tardis Wiki, Tardis Data Core, the Doctor Who Wiki." Etc.

Personally, I think the logo reading "TARDIS Wiki" is more than fine, it's actually for the better.

And finally, I have also asked the artist who helped make this logo to draft up a version of the old TARDIS icon. This way, if people really are going to miss that TARDIS png, we can still keep it if we want to. The fun thing about this variant is we would still be able to do fun alternate versions, as I briefly pitched in the original forum.



So the basic questions now are:
 * 1) Do you like this logo concept?
 * 2) Do you want to go with one of the TARDIS variants?
 * 3) If you don't like any of the logo concepts, what ideas do you have?

Thanks for reading. OS25🤙☎️ 21:25, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Discussion
I personally think that the new logo looks absolutely wonderful, and I don't really think that the Tardis variants are necessary. However, I do think that one or the other could work quite well for the favicon.ico (the little image that you see on the left of the header text in the tab/bookmark), as these generally need to be square, and the logo isn't. I think the Beep the Meep and Chistmassy Dalek variants look very nice as well, and would definitely support having them every once in a while (however, this would be a lot of effort, and it's perfectly understandable if people don't want to do this). So, the long and the short of it is, I support the new logo concept. Aquanafrahudy ☎  19:22, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Support (without Tardis) Cousin Ettolrahc ☎  19:38, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Wait no. support with first TardisCousin Ettolrahc ☎  19:40, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * The first TARDIS. The other one makes it look too flat. Danniesen ☎  19:53, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Honestly, I prefer the second one with the tardis myself. Overall I really love the new logo, and I think the last two would be fun to implement for some special occasions, it would be quite lively for the wiki. All in all, I support the new logo concept, and frankly, I would be happy with any of the options offered being picked as the logo. Liria10 ☎  21:09, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Discussion OS25 is referencing is Thread:117468 at User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon I. Tardis Data Core was actually a compromise between "Tardis Wiki" and "Tardis Index File". After reading the thread I find myself unpersuaded by the need for a compromise - TIF was simply a mistake and the people pushing for it seemed to be doing so for reasons of nostalgia. Czech's arguments in the thread were incredibly cogent - as far as FANDOM is concerned, we are Tardis, as is true for fandom. :P Najawin ☎  22:27, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Good find. Personally, if we're getting rid of Data Core, would it not make sense to also change the text at the top of the site? So instead of reading "Tardis Data Core, the Doctor Who Wiki," maybe it could read "Tardis Wiki, Home of the Doctor Who Universe" etc. OS25🤙☎️