Talk:Cyberman (Mondas)

Integrating info from Nightmare in Silver
This article is locked until the end of series 7b. This will give us all a week to sort of digest what's been shown in Nightmare in Silver and hopefully figure out a sort of direction to take going forward. In doing so, we need to keep a few things clear: So, those two provisos clearly made, use this page to discuss how this article might be improved with information from Nightmare in Silver. 02:38: Sun 12 May 2013
 * The main infobox pic for this page will always come from the original series, or perhaps comics clearly based on the original series. Period.  The bulk of the appearances of this type of Cyberman were in the original series, and any new series appearances are simply not representative.
 * There will be no assertion of a connection between the original and modern series Cybermen (or to put it in other terms, the Mondasian and Cybus Cybermen) except from narrative sources. Neil Gaiman interviews don't count.
 * I'd have to rewatch the episode for specific references, but the Cybermen in the episode reference Mondasian Cyberman events as part of their history, such as the Cyber-Wars. At the beginning of the episode, Cybus Cybermen (with logos) are seen, suggesting that it was initially them that had invaded in the past. However, the new Cybermen that feature for the majority of the episode are implied to be Mondasian, what with a shared history, and a shared weakness for gold and cleaning fluid not necessarily true of their Cybus counterparts.
 * I think perhaps this should be brought to The Panopticon, so that it can gain attention over the next week, as it affects many pages and which Cyberman page we link to. We're currently linking here on all pages related to Nightmare in Silver. --SOTO ☎ 05:47, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

The World Shapers
Can an admin get rid of the Mysteries and discrepencies section and maybe re-integrate it into the early history section? It's implicitly giving priority to Spare Parts and Iceberg and ignoring The World Shapers' explanation of Planet 14, which we're not supposed to do per T:NPOV. -- Tybort (talk page) 16:49, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

Star Trek crossover
The Star Trek crossover comics are and should be treated as a separate history as the two franchises are separate having referenced each other as fiction several times, (The most recent being Rose giving the 9th Doctor the name, "Spock").
 * Numerous pages have been established with Assimilation information without such unilateral removals, including the creation of the page Federation universe and the category Federation universe almost a year ago, which seem to establish the story as in a different universe to the one where Star Trek, Spock and so forth are fictional. I've not read the story to know or understand the specifics, however. The page for COMIC: Assimilation² also notes this is not the only irreconcilable differences between some people being fictional characters and "real" with Sherlock Holmes and John Watson being real in PROSE: All-Consuming Fire and entirely fictional with inspiration from the lizard detective and her wife in TV: The Snowmen.
 * By our own rules, if it's a licensed use of the Doctor Who name and the use of the Cybermen, then we include it, as it's information from a Doctor Who-related title. If there's outside confirmation from the creators that it's a "what-if" or otherwise not connected to the Doctor's universe in any way, then we'd exclude Assimilation from at least the DWU-related pages. -- Tybort (talk page) 13:50, September 6, 2013 (UTC)