User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-1432718-20200311152817/@comment-5918438-20200311200612

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-1432718-20200311152817/@comment-5918438-20200311200612 The way we've tended to deal with this sort of thing in the past is to affix, say, "human" as a second species only to those incarnations of the Doctor who asserted this was the case, or to whom it specifically applies, in-story. If really all stories featuring the Sixth Doctor either say he's a Time Lord, or don't make any assertions at all about his species, then a "Timeless species" really has no business on his page.

Beyond that, though, I would call into question whether or not the Timeless Child's species even belongs on the Thirteenth Doctor's page, though not for the same reason. We really don't know what the Time Lords did to the person who would become the Doctor in the time before they became Hartnell. Until or unless the Thirteenth Doctor actually says she no longer she believes she is, at present, a Time Lord, we don't really have any evidence that by now, the Doctor is biologically distinct from her fellow Gallifreyans. All we know is that, in this account of the Doctor's origins, their original species was something other than Time Lord. So it might belong on the Doctor's page, it certainly belongs on the Timeless Child's page, but I'm not so certain we yet have enough evidence to make the same assertion about even the current Doctor.

(As a side note, though, the Eighth Doctor does call Gallifrey home in the TVM. And the Sixth Doctor asserts, as the Tenth Doctor later would: "I am known as the Doctor. I'm also a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey in the constellation of Kasterborous." We do have accounts of various incarnations telling us they are "from" Gallifrey, and even in the Timeless Child reading of events, the Doctor's identity as the Doctor did still begin on Gallifrey. My take is that the variable is more concerned with where a character comes from, than where their body originated.)