User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Help!/@comment-24894325-20170404140430/@comment-1432718-20170404141321

User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Help!/@comment-24894325-20170404140430/@comment-1432718-20170404141321 Well, I found several examples of the "von", "de" and "ben" type that all had the namesort tag, so they would automatically be alphabetized by the last word. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's policy, but in my (admittedly small sample size) random search, I found no examples that didn't contain the namesort tag.

The "Mc" and "Mac" are almost always part of the last name, not separated by a space, so they would be alphabetized by the "M".