Howling:The Pandorica and The Cracks are unrelated?

River tells The Doctor in FaS that she already knows about the events concerning the Pandorica, and the Doctors adventures with it.

However, she doesn't know what the cracks are or what causes them.

Does this mean they're two separate plot devices? Ghadius 18:12, May 3, 2010 (UTC)Ghadius

Great point!

But if you think about it, if the Pandorica caused the crack, River's point of view--seeing the crack after the Pandorica--is actually the one that makes sense, and the Doctor's is screwy, because he's going to see the cause come after the effect.

While this happens all the time on the show, usually it's because of the Doctor's time traveling, but in this case it's the crack's time traveling. Non-time-travelers could have seen the crack in 1941, then live until 2010 to see the Pandorica open, so they'll see it just as backward as the Doctor.

Anyway, if the Pandorica opening in 2010 caused the crack to open in 1998 (and then begin moving forward and backward in time following Amy around), River wouldn't see that happening; in fact, nobody would unless they were somehow standing outside of time and watching all of spacetime evolve. (Even the Doctor doesn't see these kinds of changes directly, but at least he seems to know enough to reconstruct the view from the vantage point that they could be seen from.)

Is it just me, or is talking about causality in the Whoniverse even more complicated than figuring out the right tenses? --Falcotron 22:53, May 3, 2010 (UTC)