User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-79.68.246.214-20131114171340/@comment-4139960-20131118210016

Once again, there are dozens, maybe even hundreds of discrepancies within our boundaries of the DWU, from monster and species histories to things such as Jo's marriage and likely anything to do with Ace post-Survival. We cannot arbitrarily say "Oh, this isn't canon" or "this is mostly canon" and pat ourselves on the back for a job well done. Counting the Looming and the non-Loom childhoods equally means counting them equally. In fact, I'm pretty sure that Gallifreyan childhoods are alluded to before the New Adventures as well as after in stories like The Time Monster.

Relegating part of the New Adventures to "non-canon" or "non-DWU" seems to go entire against Tardis:Neutral point of view. We're not defining a Doctor Who canon ourselves, we're just describing as much as we can within an immensely self-contradictory fictional universe, but leaving out things the people who wrote the stories consider obviously outside of the usual continuity.

Marc Platt's Cat's Cradle Time's Crucible and Lungbarrow were stories, were licensed by the copyright holder(s) to Virgin Books, were officially published in their entirety and, so far as I can tell, were intended as continuity that follows somewhere after Survival. From what I gather, this means they fit all four of the four little rules.