Talk:Regeneration

Ninth Doctor's First Words
Weren't the ninth doctor's fist words simply "Run!" to Rose in Rose?

Yes his first words was "Run!" But in talking about regeneration the more fitting quote would be after the shop blew up and Rose invited The Doctor into her flat The Doctor is messing about in the living room while Rose is talking. He then looks in the mirror and says "Still could be worse. But look at the ears." Which could be a comment on his regeneration from the eighth to the ninth he may have been busy locating the transmitter of the Nestine Consciousness that he hadn't had time to look at himself after regenerating. That seems more fitting.

Regeneration posture
I'm not sure why this was removed. This is a significant aspect of regeneration. While it was not seen in the "original" series, it has been seen as part of the standard process in the revival, and Davies has stated that according to the current "rules" the series follows, this is how TimeLords regenerate normally - and there really is nothing in the original series to contradict this given the Doctor has usually been incapacitated and Romana regenerated off screen. Perhaps a reference to Davies' comments could be added, but we should try to keep things in-universe as much as possible. 23skidoo 04:55, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure of the reason it was removed, as I wasn't the one to do it. However, having read the section, it does feel "removable". Too much certainty is attached to the explanation. There are at least three regenerations — 1-2, 3-4. and 5-6 — which shouldn't have more greatly inhibited the Doctor from standing than the ones we've seen in the BBC Wales production. You can't argue you want to "keep things in-universe as much as possible", then cite RTD as a major rationale. In-universe, there's not a satisfactory reason why absorbing the time vortex would have allowed the Doctor to stand, but simple old age wouldn't. The Ninth Doctor had the most traumatic cause of regeneration of the lot, and yet he stood when others didn't. There is no narrative logic; it's just an artistic choice. It can only be explained in an out-of-universe way. It is interesting to note, however, that all but the Tenth Doctor and Romana II have ended up flat on their backs immediately after the initial act of regeneration, though.  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍ 14:06, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I removed it because there didn't seem to be any in-universe evidence that the posture was important. They never actually said the whether the Doctor was standing up mattered at all. -<Azes13 02:35, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

So, does anyone have any in-universe evidence that the position of the Time Lord during Regeneration matters? Or can I just remove it already? -<Azes13 16:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * As we have seen there throughout the TV series there is no set posture / position for a time lord to regenerate only a life threatening injury or enormous free will. I say move it to behind the scenes (original Series lying down / New Series standing up) or remove it Dark Lord Xander 06:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Master=Rainbow?
Umm...has anyone else noticed that when the master regenerated, instead of the usual gold color, the energy coming out of him was rainbowish?Papayaking 01:15, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

It's just the people who animate it trying to make it look more "realistic" (not quite the right word), and less gaudy. I mean, if you look back at the Ninth Doctor's regeneration, it's pretty gaudy and looks like a pretty mediocre CGI job. BlueBox 02:44, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Tardis
I know that Russell T. Davies said that after the Master regenerated they decided that that was what all regenerations would look like. However, an in-universe explanation for this could be that all regenerations in the new series (including the one diverted into the Doctor's hand) occured in the Tardis (specifically, the Doctor's after it was put into its coral theme)? I know other regenerations have occured in the Tardis before then but if they ever decided to make an excuse, wouldn't that likely be part of it? BlueBox 02:44, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Changing gender
The possibility was confirmed atlast - Eleventh was worried about it at the end of The End of Time part 2. Someone change it? xD 20:07, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * The possibility wasn't confirmed, it was suggested. For a laugh, I might add. :P 95.150.79.142 22:51, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Regeneration like dying
The tenth doctor said regeneration felt like dieing - looks like in the new series of the show regenerating is basically death for one incarnation of a doctor while another man is born with the same memories. Someone add it to the 'attitude' section?
 * I think it's fair to say that, for the new show, regeneration is basically "instant reincarnation". Which is cool, I like that. Though I think it's ridiculous for him to have said "everything I am dies"... because that's not true. I mean, hey, if it was really dying, how could the Tenth Doctor know what it felt like? And he never hesitates to identity himself with previous incarnations. RTD went a little overboard there, I think. 95.150.81.104 22:46, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha. I was just watching the end of Season 3. Here's a great exchange:
 * The Master: Dying in your arms. Happy now?
 * The Doctor: You're not dying, don't be stupid, it's only a bullet. Just regenerate. 95.150.79.37 21:35, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

If you look at regeneration as another form of reincarnation then the only thing to survive through the changes would be the memories and self-consiousness.


 * In philosophical terms, only the Doctor's accidental properties change. His essential properties -- the things that mean he IS the same man from incarnation to incarnation -- remain the same. And Moffat has made it clear in DW:Confidental that regeneration isn't death. Thankfully, Ten's sudden "it's the same as dying" shift in outlook for EoT has been discarded as the silly excuse for tear-jerking that it was. As he said to Rose in the CoN special: "Rose, it's me. Honestly, it's me. I was dying, to save myself I had to change every cell in my body. But I'm still me". Long live the Doctor. 95.150.80.91 15:37, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

Tenth Doctor's Regeneration
Didn't immediately set in? I'm pretty sure it did and he just held it back for as long as he could. His healing the wounds on his face right at the beginning was part of the regeneration, after all. He wasn't staggering about because of the radiation, he was staggering about because his body wanted to change then and there and he wasn't letting it. 95.150.81.104 22:46, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Humanoid Regeneration only?
In article is said "...up to this point, all the main Time Lord characters' regenerations have remained humanoid."

However according to article the Master (Bruce) Master occupied some snake-like form (I am nto sure if he regenerated into this form)

Second and a Half Doctor?
SMProductions added the Second and a Half Doctor to the First and Last Words. Should he really be there, seeing as he is from a currently unfinished fan-made film? TemporalSpleen 15:12, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Damaging "Energy" or damage to the Tardis?
Folks, yes, the David Tennant regeneration to Matt Smith was extremely damaging... But have we forgotten something?

Remember, 10th Doc just absorbed how much radiation? Now we know from Smith & Jones, that TimeLords can absorb radiation, focus it, and expell it..

When was the 10th Doc able to expell all the radiation from the reactor? He certainly absorbed it, and absorbed so much that he was forced to regenerate... But he certainly was contaminated by the radiation, but he didn't seem concerned about it... If he was, why did he go to the Bar? Or get close enough to Wilf to hand him the ticket, etc?

He absorbed all the radiation, contained it internally, without considering how it would affect the regeneration. As part of the process of the regeneration all that extra radiation/energy was expelled, damaging the tardis... This may have been one reason that the Tardis locked out the 11th doctor.. It was rebuilding, but also cleaning out the excess radiation...Bschollnick 17:04, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

The Master (Saxon) First words
Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't when the Master regenerated into Harold Saxon he was commenting on his new voice in his first words after regenerating?