Howling:No More Bad Wolf

Since Bad Wolf's power extends to all of time and space, why is the Doctor still faced with dangers? Where is Bad Wolf now? Bad Wolf, in the short instance it was born and destroy, would have prevented Big Bang 2, silence, etc and drop hints of all Doctor's futures to him. --222.166.181.9 22:33, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Uhh, no. That's not what happenned. All that Rose did was incinerate the Daleks and graffiti "Bad Wolf" around the universe. If she got rid of every danger all throughout time, then there would literally be no show. There would be no Time War, no Daleks, etc. This applies to the classic series just as much as to the new series.Icecreamdif talk to me 05:13, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

That's the problem. The problem is why wasn't it done. Moreover, Bad Wolf said specifically that she wiped out Dalek's existence in all of time and space, and yet there are Dalek in the future.--222.166.181.72 09:51, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

The Bad Wolf did indeed wipe out all of the Daleks that existed in time and space in that timestream, at least the Daleks that it COULD erase; as erasing all the Daleks that the Doctor had encountered before hand would have caused a massive paradox, not to mention the fact that the Cult of Skaro were in fact NOT in time or space, but the Void, which existed between or outside both the third and fourth dimensions.

And, leaving that aside, there's also the possibility that the numerous returns of the Daleks were fixed points in time that even the Bad Wolf was unable to alter without causing adverse effects. Also, it's possible that, given that the Bad Wolf was still essentially Rose, or using Rose as a conduit, it may have been limited by the capabilities of a human body, which means that there were only so many changes it could make before Rose would no longer be able to sustain it. And it was able to warn the Doctor of at least one of the times the Daleks returned. Memnarc talk to me 10:35, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think you get it, well the Cult of Skaro was not in time and space in present but when they pop up in Manhattan and Stolen Earth and stuff, they would be in past/future, Bad Wolf only erased Daleks in present and not in all of time as she said. Bad Wolf is suppose to have power that reaches through time and she didn't do anything. She made a warning but she could have just wiped Dalek and Davros from existence...that's kind of pointless. --222.166.181.126 15:57, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Also we don't know that Rose didn't use her time vortex powers to make life easier for the Doctor in some circumstances. Just because she didn't mention it doesn't mean she couldn't have tweaked time a bit to stop some big invasions that the Doctor couldn't have prevented. 94.72.209.160talk to me 18:10, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Time is in flux. If the Bad Wolf hadn't intervened in that episode, then the Void ship would probably never have returned anyway. The Daleks would one day be in 1930s Manhattan, but they weren't yet. They were in the void. They basically didn't exist and never would exist at the time.Icecreamdif talk to me 20:01, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Also, as the Doctor pointed out to Jack Harkness, the Bad Wolf was still, in many ways, Rose Tyler. She could misjudge things, like bringing Jack back to life "for all time" instead of only once. It's quite possible that she intended to get rid of the Daleks completely and thought she had done so but simply missed some of them because she didn't fully understand what she was doing. The Doctor told Jack that a Time Lord who looked into the heart of the TARDIS would become a (vengeful) god but Rose, being human, did not become a god. She had limitations, as well as being much nicer than a Time Lord would have been. --78.146.177.197talk to me 22:12, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

We know the series 1 finale daleks had been partially created using human DNA, so perhaps only those types of human converted daleks were erased from present and future (erasing them in the past would have caused a dangerous paradox) and all other types continued to survive even from that point on because they were considered another race entirely. I know, human daleks have appeared from that point on, but presumably there is just a slight difference between each race of human dalek. 178.78.81.210talk to me 17:19, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Nice idea but the Emperor was a true Dalek, not created from human DNA. --89.242.79.21talk to me 17:37, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Come to think of it did we even see the dalek emperor destroyed? Rose could have dealt with him in a different way, because in the series two finale I recall Rose says that she "poured the time vortex into his head". Maybe she noticed the Emperor was different and gave him a different treatment. She had the whole time vortex on her side, so could have done absolutely anything as the Bad Wolf. Destroyed anyone, resurrected anyone, changed any parts of the timeline, there was basically no limits when she had the heart of the TARDIS running through her head. 178.78.81.210talk to me 20:45, January 2, 2012 (UTC)