User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Tales from the Tardis/@comment-188432-20131126205522/@comment-1235-20131128024202

Marketing is key here. I realize Narrative is the bread-and-butter of this wiki, but the Capaldi Doctor *will* be known as the "***th Doctor" on official toys, the BBC website, posters, Brilliant Books, et cetera. It's possible that no ordinal will be used in the Christmas Special (and no need unless it's apart of the next storyline), and perhaps for some time to come.

He's already been introduced as the Twelfth Doctor in some behind-the-scenes, OOU contexts. If, narratively and officially, they decide to change it to Thirteenth Doctor, then I think we'd be better off having a Pope John XX situation, with there being *no* Twelfth Doctor (maybe a link with a new page titled "TARDIS:ORDINAL" or something explaining the situation).

It's just another oddity of the Doctor's life, and it doesn't change the ordinals that 9 through 11 believed themselves to be, most of the time.