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After first discovering this shouting match through Twitter, I am surprised nobody has mentioned a precedent that does exist for the stories in question. Lawrence Burton's Smoking Mirrors is a full novel, published freely on the authors own blog. We do not cover it here. It is fanfiction that only exists officially as a curio that eventually became Against Nature. The page that exists with that novel's name serves only to explain the situation. Information is contained to how the book relates to things that are allowed on the wiki. As such, if 10,000 Dawns is to remain, I cannot see why it requires more space than a footnote and a spot on a character's list of appearances.

As a quick aside, I would like to question what Mr. Wylder's assortment of friends think they are doing? As noted above, this thread is likely to be what a curious reader first finds were they to search for Mr. Wylder, Arcbeatle Press, or 10,000 Dawns. They would see a mountain of immature reasoning, all insisting that 10,000 Dawns is nothing if it is not allowed on, of all things, a fan wiki for a science fiction children's show. I assume that Mr. Wylder would claim he is worth more than that, but the evidence of this thread does suggest otherwise.

I look forward to the inevitable response where I am told that Smoking Mirrors is actually totally irrelevant for some nebulous reason.