Talk:Ultimate Sanction

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It should be Rassilon's Final Solution more so than The Final Solution. This is because it is not a single event but rather Rassilon's individual work.--Skittles the hog-- Talk 21:06, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, it has more to do with Rassilon, maybe throw up a conjectural title tag on the page to express the fact that it is not a definate title. Revanvolatrelundar 21:07, January 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * The name in story is not "Rassilon's Final Solution", but "the Final Solution", correct? If so, 'nuff said. -- Bold  Clone  21:09, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

The Doctor's TARDIS is an example of an object being attributed to an individual. Why not an event?--Skittles the hog-- Talk 21:10, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * False example; The Doctor's TARDIS is to distinguish the page from the other TARDIS pages. There is only one 'Final Solution' page, I believe. Your example is null and void. -- Bold  Clone  21:12, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

I never saw the point in creating the page anyway, surely all this info is just the End of Time and therefore should all be on the episode page anyway. Revanvolatrelundar 21:11, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

No, it is because it is the Doctor's TARDIS. This is Rassilon's Final Solution.--Skittles the hog-- Talk 21:15, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

In fact this page is not even needed at all because its info belongs on the Last Great Time War page anyway, which is where the info is also. Therefore this page is a repeat of information and should be deleted. Revanvolatrelundar 21:17, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Do you think so? The Battle of Canary Wharf and various others are part of the Time War. They have pages.--Skittles the hog-- Talk 21:20, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * @Skittles: "The Doctor's" distinguishes his TARDIS page from the other TARDIS pages. Are there any other "Final Solution" pages that this needs to be distinguished from? If not, then I say we call the page by what it is called in the story.
 * @Revan: Yeah, this is probably a dupe page. I'll put up the delete template for you. Back in a moment.
 * @Skittles: The Battle of Canary Warf are events. The Final Solution is a plan. Big difference. -- Bold  Clone  21:23, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * The Battle of Canary Wharf wasn't as related to the Time War as this was, canary wharf had implications on the Earth side of things and it was only relevant to the Time War in that 4 Daleks escaped from the Time War into that battle. Rassilon's Final Solution is a direct extention of the Time War and is fully linked to the information in the Time War page, therefore it should all be on that page (which it is) and this one should be deleted. Revanvolatrelundar 21:25, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Plans should have a page. This should expand on an event the Time War page summarises.--Skittles the hog-- Talk 21:32, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm maybe you are right, we need admin direction about it i think, on the Last Great Time War page we could have "for more information on this topic see: (this article)", then the info would not be duplicated and could be elaborated in more detail on this page. Much like how the incarnations act on the Master page. Revanvolatrelundar 21:52, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah that sounds good. I don't particularly care for this page myself. I just thought we adopted the "If it exists, it’s in" approach.--Skittles the hog-- Talk 21:56, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Skittles has a point; if we delete this because it's basically a dupe page of info, then we should do the same for other pages, like the Howling Halls. -- Bold  Clone  22:16, January 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'd favour keeping it as an elaborated page branching from the Last Time War page. --Tangerineduel / talk 12:49, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * All right, but the is still the issue of the actual name: to we call it what the continuity calls it? -- Bold  Clone  00:08, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahem...-- Bold  Clone  04:29, January 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ahem. -- Bold  Clone  22:00, January 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ahem. -- Bold  Clone  13:59, January 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * The page as it stands, called "Rassilon's Final Solution" is a good and descriptive title, it also helps to disambiguate from the Final Solution, while it's probably not mentioned in televised DW I recall it being mentioned (probably in Just War or something like that). --Tangerineduel / talk 14:15, January 27, 2011 (UTC)