Talk:Dodie Golightly/Appearances

Mystery Lady
As someone who has now listened (and read) the Mystery Lady series I can firmly say that these are ten individual stories which make up a larger arc rather than one massive ten hour story. On the Mofibo website they are clearly listed as "Series One Episode One", "Series One Episode Two", etc. RadMatter ☎  13:49, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * What I would compare this series to is Series 3 of Torchwood. All of those episodes are given generic names; Children of Earth: Day One, Children of Earth: Day Two, and all tell one long story but are clearly intended to be viewed as individual parts with their own narrative beginning, middle and end. RadMatter ☎  13:59, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I mean, the author refers to the story as a novel. And while most of the episodes have distinct dramatic beats and settings, so too do the chapters of a book. With Torchwood, that's five hours of television, a lot of content, and it wouldn't make sense to cover it on one page. But here, I think covering this in 10 different pages would be a real hindrance for the wiki, especially since they're all just titled "Episode 1" and so on. These would be pretty slim to stand by themselves, because they're all just chapters rather than individual stories. A novel is a different medium than TV, and I don't think this story was too massive or complicated for its medium. It's normal for audiobooks to be more than just 10 hours. Definitely though, of course, this should be an (audio story). CoT     ?  14:08, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * This story may have been intended to be a novel, but no physical novel has ever been released. What has been released is a series of episodes - framed rather like a television series - and the production company that has released it, Storytel Original, repeatedly refers to it as such. These individual releases are the same length as each of Paul's other works; Baker's End, Brenda and Effie, etc. RadMatter ☎  14:14, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Right, but I perceive this as being a serial situation. We wouldn't separate The War Games into separate pages, or most of the audio stories we cover. I think the interpretation of these needing separate pages would be stronger if they had individual titles. I'd say these are different than Magrs' other audio stories, because while this one does have a cast of two actors, it very much is in the format of an audio book, so it takes longer to get through plot for a variety of reasons. And also, at the end of the day, I just don't think it makes sense to make ten different story pages when one will do. It's largely the same characters across these episodes, and I think it'd be very cumbersome to cover this story on character pages if it were divided into ten tiny parts which would each get a couple sentences most. CoT     ?  14:25, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * This is not simply narrated like an audiobook.


 * This series is performed by two actresses - one playing Dodie and one playing Cassandra, and it is certainly similar to the other audio stories from Magrs (albeit with a smaller cast). There is a theme tune after the first few paragraphs or so (similar to New Who running the titles after setting up the story) and music is performed throughout. The actresses also do individual voices for all the characters.


 * I can relieve your concerns about "ten tiny parts" as I have already completed three in word and they have plenty of plot information, references and continuity notes. There's also the individual synopsises created by Storytel for each release, which isn't done for individual chapters. RadMatter ☎  14:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

The reason anyone on this wiki knows about this story in the first place was my discovery of it, and as it happens I also have a running draft of Mystery Lady (audio story) that I was planning on finalizing in the near future. In a sense, this has been, as I informed you when I told you about it... my turf. But that doesn't matter completely, I don't wanna be a jerk about that. I'm aware of all those things you describe, and they're all common to audio books. And, for serialized storytelling, it's not uncommon for episodes to have individual descriptions. It just doesn't make sense, from a readership or an informational standpoint to cover this in ten parts. This is a relatively obscure piece, and covering it as if it's some massive thing just gives it an incredibly different vibe than covering it as a single ten-part story. CoT    ?  14:44, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Of course, though, it's very neat to see you taking such an interest in this story! :) CoT     ?  14:48, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * This story being covered in ten parts would be the same as if The Brenda and Effie Mysteries was commissioned for television and they did one book per series therefore stretching Never the Bride out for so many parts. There is no "series" (which Mystery Lady is described as repeatedly) if it was a single story.


 * Your point of view confuses me as you have the page named "audio story" but the whole purpose of your argument for it being an individual story is that Magrs called it a novel? RadMatter ☎  14:51, 16 February 2021 (UTC)