Talk:Security Drone Incident

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May have missed something, but what makes this a revolution, apart from Chibnall's choice of title? Is there anything in-story to suggest it is one? 03:43, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I know, I agree. I created the page, but I just went with the redlink thing on the Revolution of the Daleks page for it. If you can come up with a better name, feel free to change it. But I don't know if it could be considered an invasion since the Daleks involved were for the most part from Earth itself.--WarGrowlmon18 ☎  03:49, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the in-universe justification for the title appears to be Robertson's pronouncement that the "defence drones" are revolutionary machines; it has nothing to do with the Daleks' actions.


 * Personally I would have gone for 2021 Dalek civil war, treating the attempted takeover of Earth by the Defence Drones as a prelude to the "main event" of their battle with the Death Squad Dalek. After all, the invasion was abortive and unsuccessful, while the civil-warring between the two races of Daleks is what had obvious material consequences (as well as two clearer sides), making it not only better-defined as an event, but easier to structure a "Conflict" infobox around.


 * But if we want to keep this primarily about the Defence Drones' attempted invasion, 2021 Dalek invasion or 2021 Dalek invasion of Earth would seem to be our best bets, and whatever we end up going with, those two should probably at least be redirects. Scrooge MacDuck ☎  03:58, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Civil war makes more sense than invasion or revolution frankly since we saw so little of the actual invasion and it was more about the Daleks vs. Daleks fight.--WarGrowlmon18 ☎  04:01, 3 January 2021 (UTC)


 * tbh, I'm quite confident he wanted an R of the Daleks name and then tried to shoehorn it into the story even if it didn't quite fit. I don't know if I'd even really call this a civil war, so much as an ethnic cleansing. So my vote is for invasion. Najawin ☎  04:05, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It's hard to quite call this an invasion either if we're being strict about definitions. After all, the Defence Drones, who are the only ones who actively tried to invade the Earth, were all "Earth-natives," born and raised! Nobody invaded anybody.


 * Whereas, while the battle seems to have ended up as a bit of a curbstomp, the Defence Drones clearly started out giving as good as they got to the Death Squad in the bridge scene. All in all this all seems terribly like the Dalek Civil War or Imperial-Renegade Dalek Civil War, which could also be said to be more attempts at "mutual" ethnic cleansing than they are conventional "civil wars", but must nevertheless clearly be our benchmark for what a "Dalek civil war" is. Scrooge MacDuck ☎  04:13, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with Scrooge on this one. Civil war makes sense, especially based on those precedents. 04:17, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * My thought was more that the Death Squad invaded the earth as a matter of course in the course of "purging the unclean". But my feelings aren't that strong, so don't hold this up on my account. Najawin ☎  04:19, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree. Oh and rewatching the bridge scene Scourge??? The Defence Daleks did not give as good as they got. They got off some shots but that's it. They didn't destroy any of the SAS Daleks and were quickly defeated.--WarGrowlmon18 ☎  04:40, 3 January 2021 (UTC)