User talk:Bold Clone

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Edit warring
Please do not continue to edit war the headers of the Trickster's Brigade page. Allies can be contained with members as a different group.--Skittles the hog-- Talk 21:52, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Exactly why there is a different header with the central block of members. I suggest posting on the talk page as edit warring is against policy.--Skittles the hog-- Talk 21:56, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Blocking policy
You have not agreed to leave the page alone and discuss the matter on the talk page before changes are made, under the Tardis:blocking policy you can be blocked for around 2 hours if you continue to do this. Consider this your final warning. --Revan\Talk 22:06, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

You don't understand what I meant, you were reverting the edits back, they should have been left alone and then a TP discussion should occur. --Revan\Talk 22:09, February 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with Bone Cold here, it seems a bit unfair that just because he did not go to the talk page, he should get blocked. Other Users were part of the edit war. However, now he done the right thing and started a discussion. Mini-mitch\talk 22:13, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

To be honest I have been looking at the big picture and not the specifics of this edit war. But in future try to leave the page after revertion and ask the users to discuss on the talk page. Thanks. --Revan\Talk 22:13, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Policy
I think there should be a minimum, but I think it should be something you bring up in the forums. Also, I think that the 4 edits in 36 hours is too long. It should be 4 in 24 hours or something similar.Mini-mitch\talk 22:33, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, and it was only removed by Czechout to stop an edit war. Mini-mitch\talk 22:34, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Pic removal at The Doctor's TARDIS
As the editor who put up the several pictures at The Doctor's TARDIS which you removed, I'm curious why you clearly didn't want them there. Did you not think they helped illustrate the subject meaningfully? I'm genuinely curious why you didn't like those additions to the article.
 * I didn't initially realise you couldn't answer this question because of a temporary block. I've now lifted the temporary ban on your being able to edit this page.
 * Thanks, Czech. This is why I voted against Skittles becoming a Sysop: I knew this would happen. He just doesn't have enough patience to handle the responsibility of being a Sysop. In regards to your question, I don't think the picutre "illustrated the subject meaningfully." Personally, I think you overdid it and placed too many images, additionally making a bunch of big ugly white gaps. I was trying to improve the page by taking out a couple of images removing the white spaces from the page. -- Bold  Clone  02:19, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * White spaces? Really?  Hmmm, I didn't see anything like that on my screen.  I wonder why you were getting that.  Now that the images are back in their original place, any chance you could take a screen shot and show me?  It might be a technical fault that needs to be addressed.
 * Alright; I'll do that. How do I take a screen shot? -- Bold  Clone  15:23, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I dunno what OS yer runnin' :) But if Windows, there's a button on most keyboards above the "home" key that says "PrtScrn".  Generally touching that takes a screenshot.  Since I'm not running Windows I forget where it saves the generated file.  Prolly the desktop.  Just open windows help and search for "screenshot", "screen shot" and/or "print screen"  If Mac, it's Shift-Alt-3, and files go directly to your desktop as "Picture #", where # is a number beginning with 1 that increments by 1 each time you take a screenshot.
 * Alright, thanks for the info. EDIT: I've got the screen shot now, but what do I do with it? -- Bold  Clone  16:25, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

You have to paste it somewhere. Try "paint", a program located in accessories. Just go to Edit->Paste.Skittles the hog-- Talk 16:32, February 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, it just holds it in the clipboard in Win does it? Interesting.  Never knew that. 

Repeating actions
Please note, repeating actions does not make them correct and only creates edit wars. Talk pages are a good place to discuss individual pages. Thanks--Skittles the hog-- Talk 23:15, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * ...Right. This coming from the User who didn't go to a talk page and instead repeatedly reverted my edits instead of practicing what he preached. Hmm. Please note that repeating your actions did not make them correct and only helped create an edit war. Talk pages are a good place to discuss individual pages. Thanks. Next time, if you disagree with me, please just go to the talk page to discuss the matter, instead of ignoring my work and banning me for helping the wiki out. -- Bold  Clone  02:22, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Changes should be discussed. The article as it stands should be what we revet to in these cases. As shown in all your edits, you have disregard for all users so I blocked you while repairing the page. Feel free to make a suggestion for changes on the talk page here: Talk:The Doctor's TARDIS. ThanksSkittles the hog-- Talk 15:26, February 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * ...and your changes were not discussed. What's more, you gave no rational, did you? I did. I was clearing up white spaces and improving the page. What were you doing? Ah, that's right. Reverting my improvements and calling it "repairs". We're coming at this from different angles. You think that stuff should be disscussed before we edit pages. That's just a bunch of red tape that kills ideas. I think that changes should be discussed after the page is edited. That way, one can see the change and compare it to the original from the page archives. -- Bold  Clone  15:31, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

I made no changes, I reinstated the page in its original form. If you want to show your ideas, create a sandbox like most users have, here's a link [User:Bold Clone/Sandbox one]. Simply copy the article over and make your changes. This allows clear illustration and an easy comparison. ThanksSkittles the hog-- Talk 15:35, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sigh...and as usual, you completely ignored me. You know, if my method was in operation (discussion after edits), then none of this would be happening. The two of us would be calmly discussing my changes on the TP, and we could compare the revisions. Instead...you essentially shouted me down and banned me for vandalism. I don't see why you're so resistant to anyideas not your own. My idea allows for clear illustration and an easy comparison. Couldn't we just do that? Thanks. -- Bold  Clone  15:40, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

You have to switch between two comparisons in revision history. Shouted at you? I have only ever been polite in writing and blocking you wasn't out of anger. I think it safe to say that your current idea was not well accepted, the Doctor's TARDIS was improved by CzechOut's additions, only for your good-self to remove them. This has been the case with many of you "additions". I think if you took a move friendly view, people would respect your opinion more. ThanksSkittles the hog-- Talk 15:45, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * ...uh, "shouted down" is a figure of speech. what I meant was that you reverted my edits and blocked me, making me unable to even speak up to defend myself.
 * Sigh...the TARDIS page was improved by Czech, but he placed in too many images, leading to several large white gaps. I removed them, only for your misguided sense of self-good to readd them and block me. This has also been the case with your attitude towards me and my improvments. I think that if you were more tolerant and open-minded towards other ideas, relations between us could be better, and I might give you and your opinion some respect. Thanks. -- Bold  Clone  15:51, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Can I have an example of any "improvements" you have made, just for clarification?--Skittles the hog-- Talk 15:58, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok: 1) removing big ugly white gaps from the TARDIS page, 2) my general method of operation (removing speculation, coincidental material, and unimportant info from pages). 3) Trying to have small pages of no worth (Howling Halls, etc.) deleted...It's not my fault that this wiki likes to have worthless 'micro-pages', or that you have a very loose definition of 'speculation'. -- Bold  Clone  16:04, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

No, no. I meant specific pages you have improved. Looking through your contributions there are no major edits that were not reverted or discounted. Are there any edits you're proud of?Skittles the hog-- Talk 16:06, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * ...Yes...all of the small edits that help to improve the wiki as a whole (see my previous post for details). I didn't join this wiki to make major edits. I joined so I could help out in small ways and easily keep tabs on the details of Series 5 and 6. -- Bold  Clone  16:12, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, that's cool.Skittles the hog-- Talk 16:13, February 23, 2011 (UTC)