Talk:Doctor Who Wiki/Archive 1

Home Page
Might get shouted down but anyone else think the homepage could use alittle tweaking...not too much though, just to make it look more accessible. Any ideas? Thanks --The10thdoctor 22:37, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Help Please
Sorry but I've been away for about 6 months and as the Panopticon seems to be abandoned, can somebody give a summary of the decisions/changes/ideas made to this wiki, so I know where to talk and how to contribute/edit.

Thanks,
 * --GingerM 19:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


 * It's not abandoned, it's just now at Forum:Panopticon. 19:13, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Obituary announcements on Main Page
Just wondering what everyone thinks is an appropriate length time of time for carrying such announcements on the Main Page. Two weeks? A month? Also should we carry a message of support and condolence for the victims of Hurricane Katrina, as other wikis are doing? --Freethinker1of1 00:40, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)


 * I think a month is probably appropriate for obituaries. If the other wikis are carrying messages of support and condolences I think we should too. Anyone else have an opinion?--GingerM 19:48, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Statistics Page
I found a wikicities statistics page for this wiki here. Should we put a link to it on the Main Page / somewhere else?--GingerM 20:56, 16 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * A Statistics page already exists on this wiki, which is much easier to read and understand, without all the confusing tables and percentages the other one has. I think the one you found is more for the use of the administrators of Wikia, to monitor the activity levels of all the different wikis, making it easier to find and if necessary delete inactive and abandoned ones. --Freethinker1of1 17:30, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Category Organization Ideas
I'm not a regular contributor to this wiki, but I have some suggestions for category organization on this wiki if anyone is interested:


 * Rather than lumping inanimate items into "Objects" have separated main categories for things like "Vehicles", "Weapons", "technology" (Gizmos? Gadgets?), etc.
 * Merge "Galaxies" and "Planets" into a larger category called "Locations" or "Places"
 * Maybe add a category for "Villains" (Good for races like Daleks and Cybermen, as well as individuals like Davros or The Master)

Otherwise, nice looking wiki. I will likely revisit often. --Majikjon 00:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Is it just me, or are there two many location and building categories?? Dividing them into earth, british, english/welsh/scottish AND types of buildings including churhces, theatres, colleges means there seem to be too many categories with only one or two pages each.
 * . Can someone please do some work on Sarah jane smiths unit work please and upload more alien objects?

Geek Mythology 17:51, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Featured articles
So should we vote on featured articles here? Or should we vote somewhere else? 17:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Nope, here looks good. I nominate Andrew Hayden-Smith (since I'm just that self-centered) and Weevil (because it's a good page immediately pops to mind). I'll get back to when I think of some other good pages. Azes13 17:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * well thank you for calling Weevil a good page, seeing the amount of work on it. however, IMO, it needs improving. see the discussion page for that entry. --***Stardizzy*** 21:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I NOMINATE The Black Guardian - He is the only One of a main series finale villain that hasnt had a spotlight article and people should look at him the same way they look at big characters like Davros/Daleks and the Cybermen. Its only a matter of time he'll be back for the new series. Michael Downey 13:43, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright, lets vote! 20:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I nominate Mr.Smith 13:55 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I nominate Andrew Hayden-Smith 00.52 30 December 2008

Black Guardian
Score: 1

Weevil
Score: 1
 * Littlblueyes

Andrew Hayden-Smith
Score: 2


 * Azes13
 * Tangerine Duel

Wikia Blogs
This wiki is included in our new Wikia Blogs feature. To get involved, just add snippets of this wiki's best articles to MediaWiki:Blog snippet each day and that content will appear on the Wikia TV Blog. Please see Wiki to blog for an introduction and Wikia Blogs for a list of wikis involved in this. Angela talk 00:53, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Doctor Who Fanon
Could someone please make an appropriate link to the Doctor Who Fanon wiki? I tried, but couldnt. Me and an IP are the only ones editing it. Thanxs The evil dudeArnie 15:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * When there is an appropriate place to put a link there will be one. But currently I don't think having a Fanon / Fan fiction link on the front/main page is a good idea. It could open up various biases, and the 'Fan Fiction' idea doesn't quite fit in with the whole idea of the TARDIS wiki. --Tangerineduel 15:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

--Colleyd 15:10, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

GNU FDL/WIkia Banner Problem?
Has anyone else had the problem of the Wikia copyright banner (The one with the GNU FDL Free Doc logo) showing up smack dab in the middle of the main page? I've tried accessing the site from 3 different computers and get the same results each time, the banner showing up right underneath the 2nd Doctor image. As I type this, it's right under the text box, above the "Do not submit copyright images.. ect." line. --Colleyd 16:39, 20 December 2007 (UTC)Woof.


 * I've gone through the various different templates, but can't find the specific one you're talking about, can you give a link to show the specific template you're talking about. Thanks. --Tangerineduel 11:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I circled what I'm talking about here. I've checked at other wikia sites, and this seems to be the only one doing it, at least on my side.--Colleyd 15:10, 21 December 2007 (UTC)Woof.


 * Well I see what you're talking about, but not what is happening. I've loaded the site up in Firefox and Safari and no problems with either. If there is a problem it would be with wikia itself rather than this site all the stuff under the yellow line is under wikia's auspices. --Tangerineduel 15:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Have you tried changing all of your preferences? Perhaps the Skin? --


 * That seems to have elliminated the problem all together actually. None of the other skins appear to have that style of wikia banner on them. None of the other skins seem to have the banner ads on them either, so I'm wondering if that might've been the cause of the problem. Either way, problem solved on this side!--Colleyd 17:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)Woof.


 * There, that worked out nicely. --

Stories categories
The first category link on the main page used to point to Television stories. It was changed about a year ago, and now points to Doctor Who stories -- an odd category that doesn't actually include a link to the TV stories category. I clicked on it and expected to see "An Unearthly Child" and "Genesis of the Daleks" -- and instead, I saw categories for comic strip stories and parodies.

I think for new readers, the most appealing thing would be to link to the Television stories category. That's what folks are probably looking for when they first come to the wiki. Is it okay to change the link back to Television stories? -- Danny (talk ) 20:28, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Either that or it should point to Category:Stories which has category links out to all stories including the TV stories. This wiki does cover all of Doctor Who, so I guess people might be coming for the TV stories, but then might not. The television stories category only has one catgeory within; Category:Television stories by Doctor so if you wanted to go the route of directing to the TV stories then List of Doctor Who television stories would probably be the best bet. --Tangerineduel 01:55, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that list page would work, or the Television stories by Doctor category. We could also add a few more items to the box on the main page, and split it out -- maybe Television stories, Novels, Audio plays, Comic strip stories? -- Danny (talk ) 18:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Recent Adventures
Since we've added a section for Torchwood to the Recent Adventures box on the Main Page, should we add one for the Sarah Jane Adventures as well? (And, when it starts airing, the K-9 Adventures series?) --Colleyd 22:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)Woof.


 * Sarah Jane Adventures belongs too, yes. while on the subject, could someone please remove the Short Trips: Dalek Empire? that came out a loooong time ago, before Christmas 2007. it doesn't count as a "recent" adventure any more. (I would fear messing up if I attempted to fix it myself.) the Torchwood entry looks great on the right, though. everything looks so blue. it matches the Wiki logo. -- Stardizzy (not logged in) --66.31.44.71 00:29, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I knew I was forgetting something when I included Torchwood! I'll add in SJA soon and replace the Dalek Empire Short Story with the most recent release some time soon. --Tangerineduel 02:09, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't add SJA in Recent Adventures, just because it stopped airing last summer or autumn which I would not consider recent, IMO. when SJA season 2 starts up, it would most certainly belong. Stardizzy --66.31.44.71 02:27, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah well, I've added it, it makes a more balanced table of 8 rather than the seven that were there. It also allows for easy access to all the current adventures. --Tangerineduel 05:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Now that the Short Trips are ending, shouldn't they be replaced by something else in the Recent Adventures section, like the Companion Chronicles for example? --Rmdbutler 03:03, 27 May 2009 (GMT)

Renaming the Main Page
I have a suggestion about the Main Page that would help this wiki to show up higher on Google. Google pays a lot of attention to the title of a page in search results -- if you do any Google search, you'll see that the top results have the search term in the page title. We want people to find this wiki when they search for "doctor who" -- but unfortunately, the wiki default of "Main Page" doesn't help the search results at all.

Right now, when you search for "doctor who", this wiki comes up around #92. Ideally, we want people to search for "doctor who" and see this wiki in the top ten -- certainly, it should be above old, worn-out pages like Nitro-9 (#11) or the Doctor Who Guide (#13). Those are coming up way above this wiki because they've got "Doctor Who" in the page title, and the wiki doesn't.

So I'd like to suggest moving the main page to "Doctor Who Wiki". What do you guys think? -- Danny (talk ) 20:20, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


 * What really needs be done is to change the title text to something like "Main Page - Tardis - A Doctor Who wiki", similar to what Memory Alpha has done with "Portal:Main - Memory Alpha, a Star Trek wiki" -- Sulfur 01:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It could be Doctor Who TARDIS Index File Wiki, that was we'd get in with more Google searches I'd say (though kinda long as far as a title goes). (On a side note I've always thought the whole Portal:Main thing of the Star Trek wiki looked odd). But Doctor Who Wiki is a fine title also. --Tangerineduel 05:03, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The reason Memory Alpha can have "a Star Trek wiki" is because it is outside of the Wikia domain. I don't think that *.wikia.com wikis can have custom titles on the top bar. 15:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, we can have a custom title. It's just a MediaWiki page that we can change. -- Danny (talk ) 22:45, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Site navigation stuff
I would recommend editing MediaWiki:Sidebar to add quick links to the various sections of the site. I've changed MediaWiki:Pagetitle to "TARDIS Index File, a Doctor Who Wiki" which should show up better in Google results than "Tardis". To change the Main Page of the wiki, you edit MediaWiki:Mainpage.

You also appear to be missing Image:Wiki wide.png which is the logo that appears on Wikia-designed skins (such as Quartz and Monaco). You can find out more about it on wikia:Help:Improving_your_Wikia. Kirkburn (talk) 17:33, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Doctor Who Toys
Is it possible if I could create a better Dr Who and Primeval toys section --66.31.44.71 22:51, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Doctor Who Indie Music Track - Blue Box - The Red List
All,

To coincide with the start of the new series of Doctor Who and to reflect the previous series, the band I play in (The Red List ) have written and recorded an indie track based on the Doctor.

The lyrics and premise of the track is based around his loneliness; both from the perspective of being the last timelord and also from losing someone he cared about (ie. Rose).

There's also a Kylie link in there too.

I would appreciate all your comments / feedback, whether good, bad or indifferent.

So if you are interested then click the link below:

http://www.myspace.com/theredlist

I'm not sure I've done this correctly as it's my first time on one of these pages, so hopefully I've done it correctly, otherwise please amend the post.

Enjoy, hopefully... Blue Box by The Red List

Thanks,

Daz

Quote of the Day
I've been thinking of a "Quote of the Day" to go on the Main Page. On Doctor Who, funny or weird things are said, and we could vote for one to go on the Main Page every day. Opinions? Darth Oompa 19:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It's possible, but I'm not sure we have enough (interested) users for it to be feasible. The thing about having a Quote of the Day is that there needs to be a new quote ready for every day. 19:54, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Then how about a Quote of the Week? That gives plenty of time. Darth Oompa 00:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


 * That's more feasible. We'll need comments from other users. Perhaps you should ask in the Panopticon, where more people may visit. 14:52, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

My own favorite Doctor Who quote: "Just once I'd like the meet an alien menace that ISN'T immune to bullets" Brig Lethbridge-Stewart

My favorite is, "I wear a stetson now. Stetsons are cool." 65.35.225.248 21:22, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Battlestar Galactica References in Doctor Who
I'm trying to find if there is at least one reference in any of the Doctor Who novels or audio adventures. So far all I have turned up is a thread on Outpost Gallifrey's discussion forum. Any pointers?--23:10, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Funny for Money
Since we've listed mini-episodes before in the Recent Episodes section, we should have Funny for Money under SJA, so have added it. We should try and get a screen capture rather than a publicity shot, though. 23skidoo 14:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Claire Bloom to star in Doctor Who.
Source

The Telegraph is confirming that actress Claire Bloom will star was The Doctor's Mother in his final outing. Someone should probably post this on the front page. dposse 22:29, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No it belongs on the 2009 Specials page, rumours section. Just because the Telegraph confirmed it, doesnt mean that it is exactly true Bigshowbower 04:39, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Why? The Telegraph isn't exactly a tabloid, is it? dposse 02:38, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It is a rumour and it belongs in the rumours section, it is the policy of this wiki
 * That still doesn't answer my question. Try again. dposse 17:09, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * a) Don't be so rude. b) The Telegraph is reporting she is in the special, not confirming it. As it says in the article itself "A BBC spokesman declined to comment." Until the BBC itself confirms her casting, it is still a rumour. Rmdbutler 03:00, 27 May 2009 (GMT)

K9
I think we should make a K9 section on the new releases section-thing. Bigredrabbit 07:57, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Already on it, just trying to work out some spacing and alignment issues. --Tangerineduel 01:13, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't like it :S DuduDoctor 11:52, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * What don't you like? --Tangerineduel 13:33, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, there are too many things and the pictures are small. DuduDoctor 14:39, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Prior to changing it there were 8 images/links split up across 2 rows, now there are 10 images/links split across three rows. Currently I think it makes more sense with all the TV shows on the top row, the second row has audio based stuff and the third is prose/comic based stuff. I've edited the image sizing slightly to increase the image sizing of the TV story images while still keeping it all more or less aligned. --Tangerineduel 14:51, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * For my take, I like the the three row format, with one minor issue. The headers in rows two and three are so close to the Episode/Audio titles of the row above that it makes it a little hard to distinguish the division between the rows. --Raukodraug 20:10, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I noticed that last night, but finally got back to make a comment today and hadn't noticed that the page has been changed back to the two row style... hmmm. --Raukodraug 20:12, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it just needs to feature Doctor Who, Torchwood, The Sarah Jane Adventures and all of the prose/audio/comic/whatever that is currently being released. Bigredrabbit 21:25, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Also the K-9 TV show Bigredrabbit 21:25, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll also have a look t the spacing of the rows. --Tangerineduel 07:47, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think it should be on, as it is not part of Doctor who continuity. Mini Mitch 18:15, November 8, 2009(UTC)
 * "Welcome to the TARDIS Index File, a Doctor Who Wiki that anyone can edit. We cover all the spin-off series, too!". From the front page. Bigshowbower 04:36, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * How about a K9 Wiki? K9 probably isn't canon, but still has quite a few Who fans watching it. BlueDalek 17:54, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, if that's the conclusion you jump to: http://k-9.wikia.com BlueDalek 17:54, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, if that's the conclusion you jump to: http://k-9.wikia.com BlueDalek 17:54, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

New Magazine Releases
The Magazine section in the new releases is not being updated cyurrenlty we are on issue 414 and it says the latest new release is 412. Plus next Thursday Issue 415 will be released.. --Catkind121 10:23, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Done, updated image and comic link to 414. --Tangerineduel 11:44, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Issue 415 has been released. --Catkind121 11:46, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

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COD is something they have on a pokemon wiki called Bulbapedia. Check it out. If we called get COD on this wiki it'd be a good idea. -- Idiot's page Future ruler of the world's talk 13:12, December 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * COD?
 * Bulbapedia seems, according to the Pokemon wiki's page to be a competing wiki hosted by elsewhere. --Tangerineduel 13:25, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Cod is what you call one-time characters. Just check it up. Idiot's page Future ruler of the world's talk 19:40, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Here's the link to COD. . Read some of it and consider adding a page on it.

Mysterious Time Lady is Donna.
Clue as such suggested when Wilf questions the Doctor who the mysterious woman was, and the Doctor turns his sight to Donna in the wedding dress, suggesting his idea.

New Home Page
Ready for the new series, I have designed a new home page here, what do you think? --Rbfskywalker 12:32, January 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think you may get more responses if you posted a topic on the Forum:Panopticon. --Tangerineduel 12:45, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Help!!!
Hi.I'm new here and I tried to update the Big Finish Companion Chronicles place in the main page.I managed to write the name of the play(Ringpullworld) but I couldn't insert the picture.I will upload it to the Ringpullworld page so if anybody could insert the picture,I would appreciate it.Thank you!!!


 * Fixed, I reverted your previous edit, then re-added the image and link. --Tangerineduel 13:21, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Disambig link
Please change the link for The End of Time to "The End of Time (TV story)" - It currently goes to the disambig page. 188.221.79.22 13:30, January 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * From what I can see, this has now been done. &lt;b&gt;&#91;&#91;:User:Dragoon&#124;Dragoon&#93;&#93; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;small&gt;(&#91;&#91;:User_talk:Dragoon&#124;Talk&#93;&#93;)&lt;/small&gt; 20:41, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

You've had the place redecorated
I don't like it.

I do! --Bluebox444

Covering...
"a wiki covering Doctor Who, Torchwood, The Sarah Jane Adventures, and K9"

Don't we cover the whole franchise and not just the main show and its spin-offs? --Semian2 00:16, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not understanding the distinction you're making here. Perhaps you could suggest some alternate language. Just saying we cover the Doctor Who franchise would imply, to my ear, that we don't include coverage of the other shows. The K9 show, for instance, isn't in the DW franchise, even though the character nominally is. And there's a question whether Torchwood will continue to be in the DW universe if it indeed becomes primarily an American show.  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍ 21:18, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * To me it seems like it doesn't include things like books, magazines, etc. That's basically what I'm getting at --Semian2 19:09, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Would you have a particular alternative phraseology to suggest?  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍ 02:17, April 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * It seems straight forward enough, the issue I think is seeing those four things as only the TV shows. Though Semian2 is right it should say 'we also cover the spin-offs to' or something to that effect linked to Doctor Who spin-offs. --Tangerineduel 04:16, April 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I would suggest that wouldn't be understood by all speakers of English. Torchwood, the TV series, is a spin-off of Doctor Who. Big Finish DW audios aren't a spin-off of Doctor Who. The pages linked decidedly list all the various multimedia ranges. And, um, there are rather large pictures of the BFAs that most browser windows will show at almost any width and heighths without having to press page down. And a simple scroll of the page will make it abundantly clear we cover everything. That was the point of the redesign. I'm not saying no to a word change, though, just that the most common meaning of "spin-off" is a television show that takes characters from a parent show and turns them into the stars of the new show. How about the language, "We cover everything related to DW TW SJA and K9?" The word "everything" could get the linkage you suggest.  Czech Out  ☎ | ✍ 06:45, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Aliens/Creatures
I was wandering if the wiki had a page were all the villains/aliens were listed, and preferably pictured as I am in need of pictures of them for a photoshop project, I am also looking for the ones from David Tennants era. Birdie94jb 22:55, April 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * At the top left of the page, click on "Enemies." From there, you can also click to see ones from a specific Doctor's run. Also, see the races and species page TweedJacket 00:53, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

New Skin
Hasn't anyone thought about a new better skin than this generic wiki skin? The Wikia team can do an amazing job in making it look better. ☆ The  Solar  Dragon  ( Talk ) ☆ 11:13, May 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * The blue actually ties quite nicely into the blue of the TARDIS and many of our primary infoboxes. --Tangerineduel 14:44, May 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * i agree the blue is fine but how about a background image? The current logo or a picture of the TARIDS will look good. It does in my mind anyway. The white is not so good. ☆ The  Solar  Dragon  ( Talk ) ☆ 17:39, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * New Skin Ugly. Info Box's look ugly, Added who uploaded photos look ugly. GIVE US THE OLD LOOK BACK Joshoedit 06:09, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * New Skin Ugly. Info Box's look ugly, Added who uploaded photos look ugly. GIVE US THE OLD LOOK BACK Joshoedit 06:09, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

New Logo
I think that the logo is getting a bit dated. Maybe we should make a new logo. Darkraider09 17:37, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have never really liked that logo. It is a bit retro really. We need to keep up with the times and a new logo. ☆ The  Solar  Dragon  ( Talk ) ☆ 17:45, May 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Which is kinda the point, it's a point of identification, the majority of Doctor Who production (the DVDs and BF audios) use the rectangular "Pertwee logo", while the new Doctor Who logo is in the forefront at the moment it may not achieve the instant recognition for everyone. Additionally as far as the main wiki logo goes to fit it into that space we'd need to use the alternate-new Doctor Who logo (File:2010Logo 2Level.jpg this one), which has been seen around even less than the new logo (if anywhere). --Tangerineduel 17:53, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe, we could do a vote? See which logo is more popular in the community. Darkraider09 18:35, May 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * I would encourage discussion of the topic in the Forums, but not a vote. (see What Wikipedia is not for more info). --Tangerineduel 11:45, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * So, when is it going to be discussed Darkraider09 23:47, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * If we're getting a new logo, can it be completly different to the one we have? If it has changed, it looks the same. Fallen5 08:45, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Your wikia is in danger
The wikia staff are planning to impose a mandatory skin on all wikia sites that would disrupt the encyclopedic nature in its basic nature. More info in the following links.

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Catagory problems
All the episodes are now out of order. They have been arranged in aplhabectical order and not broadcast order. How can this be fixed? KLLtR 07:29, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Latest DW episode
It needs to be changed, it's beenn almost an hour. 82.40.240.124 19:42, December 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh ... I wasn't logged in, was I (when I wrote the above message) ? -Si Iway amway Ichamousacoricothingmabobsay. http://images.wikia.com/tardis/images/e/e4/Si_HTL_Seal_Leader.PNG 19:53, December 25, 2010 (UTC)