Talk:Vashta Nerada

Name origin
Just a guess but could this be derived from the hindi for shadow, asara vastu

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--- The word "Vashta" means alive or life in Parsi.

Size
if by sealing the spacesuit the doctor meant sealing it as if it was in space (and why wouldnt he?) and he vashta nerada still got in then that would meen that a single vashta nerada is smaller than an air molecule81.108.233.59 15:51, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Judging by Evangelista's spacesuit after her death, it's more likely that the Vashta Nerada would just tear through even a sealed suit. 16:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, the Doctor even says that you can see them sometimes...they are the dust particles in the light--71.223.67.40 04:44, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * However when they killed Proper Dave, they got into his suit without him feeling anything: surely he would have felt them tearing into his suit? I think this is just an oversight by the DW writers. 86.150.193.224 16:29, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's possible that they were already inside by the time Proper Dave put his helmet on. Another theory is that they tore a very small hole into the suit and got in through there. Either way, they got into his suit, Other Dave's and Anita's suits without alerting anybody. It was mentioned on another site that they they got in through vents in the breathing system (the vents on the front of the collar are believed to be breathing apparatus).Sonicdrewdriver 16:04, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's possible that they were already inside by the time Proper Dave put his helmet on. Another theory is that they tore a very small hole into the suit and got in through there. Either way, they got into his suit, Other Dave's and Anita's suits without alerting anybody. It was mentioned on another site that they they got in through vents in the breathing system (the vents on the front of the collar are believed to be breathing apparatus).Sonicdrewdriver 16:04, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's possible that they were already inside by the time Proper Dave put his helmet on. Another theory is that they tore a very small hole into the suit and got in through there. Either way, they got into his suit, Other Dave's and Anita's suits without alerting anybody. It was mentioned on another site that they they got in through vents in the breathing system (the vents on the front of the collar are believed to be breathing apparatus).Sonicdrewdriver 16:04, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Shadows
In Season 2 ep 10, somebody's mother is killed by a "living shadow," according to the Doctor. Could this be a Vashta Nerada reference?

Although i don't remember that scene of the top of my head it may be a reference although it may be a reference to another being Dark Lord Xander 08:10, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The scene you're thinking of is from Love & Monsters, didn't the Doctor mention the Howling Halls or something with regards to that instance? --Tangerineduel 12:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * To be honest i cannot remember either lines (oh well it's a good excuse to crack out the dvds :) ) Dark Lord Xander 13:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well checking out the Love and Monsters page and following the links through the living shadow was called and Elemental Shade (it had escaped the Howling Halls. --Tangerineduel 14:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * And on the eternal shade's page there was speculation that the two were linked but nothing to conferm it Dark Lord Xander 15:27, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I started the page but clalled it shadow ( love and monsters). I bilieve the two are similar. One lives in darkness the other doesnt perhaps ?Quark16 15:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

yes i belive that they are very simillar perhapse the Vashta Nerada is an expantion of the idea first formed in love and monsters ? Dark Lord Xander 00:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Home Planet
This article says that the Vashta Nerada homeworld is unknown, but in Forest of the Dead they clearly state that the Library planet is their home.


 * Not really. They were brought there with the spores in the books. So, they're native to the Planet of the Book-Maker or something, and they're an introduced species on The Library. -<Azes13 15:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the show is actually a little unclear on the subject. The Vashta Nerada declare the Library as their home/homeworld, and the Doctor concludes that they have been living in the books, which were pulped from the trees the Vashta Nerada came from.


 * After that, it is silent on the subject. But here's what tips it for me: The Library is covered in metallic buildings, made out of inorganic materials. The only non-living organic things we saw were the books, and the only living plants that are likely to be found in any numbers on the Library are probably decorative. All of this is to say, there don't seem to be any trees left on the world, meaning they were cut down. What would they have been used for? Almost certainly the books. Why import everything needed to build the Library while simultaneously exporting those same materials when they occur naturally on the planet?--TheOmnius 23:46, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * It actually just occurred to me that with the construction date of the Library being in the 50th Century, and the Vashta Nerada's presence on modern Earth, my logic suffers a setback, as the import/export is no longer simultaneous.--TheOmnius 23:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Didn't they say that the core of the planet was the computer's memory core? Since we're seen the core, and that everything around it is the computer, wouldn't that imply that the planet was artificially created?
 * We know that Jack Harkness originates from the 51st Century (he was born on an alien world) so we can assume that the Human race has spread significantly by the time the library was built (the 50th). The Doctor also mentions that all of the books are reprinted editions. To fill an entire world, we can assume that many millions of trees were used from planets around the populated universe then the chance of a few trees being from either the Vashta Nerada home planet or at least one populated by them is very high. The spores carried in the wood then hatched in The Library. They would probably call it their home as it is the only place they know.Sonicdrewdriver 16:26, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * We know that Jack Harkness originates from the 51st Century (he was born on an alien world) so we can assume that the Human race has spread significantly by the time the library was built (the 50th). The Doctor also mentions that all of the books are reprinted editions. To fill an entire world, we can assume that many millions of trees were used from planets around the populated universe then the chance of a few trees being from either the Vashta Nerada home planet or at least one populated by them is very high. The spores carried in the wood then hatched in The Library. They would probably call it their home as it is the only place they know.Sonicdrewdriver 16:26, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reality Bomb
There is something in this article that metions that they relised they needed the Doctor alive to stop the reality bomb, that doesnt sound right or have I missed something. Is there any source for this, I admit I have seen the episodes they featured in for a long time. So could someone check Bigshowbower 07:24, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


 * No, it doesn't sound right. I'm just going to remove it. -<Azes13 14:02, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Halo Reach
I think this could be a possible refrence to Dr. Who in Halo Reach. There is a helmet call called the pilot helmet (see picture). Tell me what you think and I try to put it on as a refrence. Thank you. Son of Icthar 16:31, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Tell me, do you honestly believe a major company like Microsoft would reference a Doctor Who monster by having a skull in its game? Seriously?Skittles the hog-- Talk 11:28, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

I said it was a possible refrence. I just thought it looked similar to the Vashta Narada 'puppets'. Son of Icthar 11:33, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Why would Microsoft, an American company, be referencing a British show. The only link is the skull, so many things use skulls. Is Hamlet referencing Who, no.Skittles the hog-- Talk 11:36, February 24, 2011 (UTC

I said it COULD BE A POSSIBLE refrence, I didn't say it was a refrence. Son of Icthar 11:12, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

I'll give you a hint, it's not. It didn't even look similar, the only similarity was the skull. It's not a reference so please stop uploading it. ThanksSkittles the hog-- Talk 11:17, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Why no reference to what seems clearly to be the Vashta Nerada (although not named other than as a living shadow) in the series 2 episode "Love & Monsters?" There's a living shadow that kills Elton's mother. I haven't seen anything that convinces me that these are not the same as the Vashta Nerada. Kleopatra88 ☎  21:47, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

The data core page says "The Library" was a planet with a large infestation of Vashta Nerada in one forest. Didn't the Vashta Nerada themselves state in "silence in the library" that the library's planet was their home world before all the forests were cut down? There is no original landmass, oceans, forests, etc. left. Even the doctor said that the planet was just one large library. Nothing else. He said "We must be near the equator. AH BIOGRAPHIES! We're in biographies!" The whole planet transformed. The Vashta Nerada were angry that their planet was overrun by aliens and had their habitat destroyed by these intruders. This is why the Doctor gave them such latitude.Schrammbo1965 ☎  19:09, April 6, 2013 (UTC)